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Psyren
09-03-2010, 10:36 PM
Tom Lewis
Indycornrows.com
http://www.indycornrows.com/2010/9/3/1668651/clark-kellogg-working-with-lance#storyjump




Whether or not Lance Stephenson ever takes the court in an Indiana Pacers uniform remains to be seen, but the team continues supporting the young guard while waiting for a resolution to his legal issues.

Stephenson's arrest and pending court date on October 19th were certainly a punch to the gut for the organization. There's no doubt that the Pacers are planning ahead for life without Lance. As Mike Wells tweeted today, the Pacers have kept Stephenson away from the Fieldhouse, instead having him work with assistant coaches at a different facility.

Seems kind of harsh, but looking at the big picture it makes sense for bothsides. The best thing for Stephenson personally is to be in Indiana working on both his game and personal issues far away from his troubles in New York. But assuming the worst and a conviction holds up the vicious details of Stephenson's arrest, which in turn leadsto the Pacers cutting ties, it would make for a smoother transition if Stephenson didn't develop the relationships and bonds with teammates and staff from working together at the Fieldhouse every day. Regardless, the Fieldhouse exile is a strong indication that Stephenson's days are numbered, save for a positive legal result.

While the Pacers are making things difficult for Stephenson on the court, off the court they have a mentor in place working to get Stephenson on the right track in life which is far more important at this time in the young man's life.

Clark Kellogg didn't have time to ease into his role as vice president of player relations for the Pacers, but he also didn't hesitate to jump right in to help with Stephenson. Kellogg described his main role as that of a mentor for the players.

"I define it as a mentoring role in helping to create empowering programs for our players so they can be champions on and off the court" Kellogg said. "That's kind of the umbrella we're trying to operate under."

Sounds like a solid mission statement, but with a wide variety of personalities from all walks of life it will take more than making sure the players treat the fans well and work with the community. Kellogg is prepared to address a comprehensive range of issues facing the players.

"Also, trying to steer them away from situations that lead to negative publicity for them and the team That's a real challenge because of how young our players are and how difficult it is to be hands on 24/7," Kellogg explained. "That's kind of where I am now, trying to get to know our guys and put things in place to help them with their decision making and their handling of unique demands that are part of being a pro player. The scrutiny you get. The attention you attract both positive and negative. The dynamics of dealing with family when you come into the kind of money these players come into. I mean it's a very comprehensive list of things you deal with, but primarily trying to mentor our players through some of their challenges and opportunities in a way to where they can begin to take ownership in a positive and good way for themselves now and going forward."

So what does Kellogg have to say about his work with Stephenson?

Star-divide

"I've been involved with Lance extensively because his incident happened a couple of weeks ago and there were some steps we needed to take in order to get him back on the right track,: Kellog said. "Obviously, the legal outcome is still undetermined at this point. We won't get any clarification there until some time in October most likely."

So the legal issues don't just impact Stephenson personally, they also have implications for the Pacers because the rookie is under contract with the team. Navigating through all of the potential outcomes requires some patience. But that doesn't mean Stephenson is on ice waiting for his court date. We know he's in town working out at some undisclosed location and now we know Kellogg is also working him out off the court.

"We've put Lance in a position where he can begin to work his way back into the good graces of the team, but also give him some help away from the court in dealing with some of the issues that may have led to this incident with his girlfriend," Kellogg explained. "So he's on track now."

Great, but can he stay on track? That question will continue to linger with any positive reports on Stephenson even from such a reliable source as Clark Kellogg. Even if Stephenson is absolved of any wrong-doing in this case, the questions will linger. With Kellogg in his corner, helping to shine a light on the path to success, the Pacers have availed Stephenson of resources far valuable than the guaranteed contract he signed.

For his sake as a person, not a player, I hope he takes full advantage.


Thanks to Tom Lewis over at Indycornrows

Day-V
09-03-2010, 10:59 PM
"Listen, young fella. Life's not just about squeezing the orange or enjoying the low-hanging fruit from the Tree of Penetration. Not only should you be focusing on taking high-quality shots, but you need to focus on being a high-quality citizen. It's called 'Being a Professional On and Off the Court,' young fella."

IndyProdigy
09-04-2010, 03:28 AM
I hope Clark Kellogg is moving into position as Head Coach. Hes what this team needs out there on the sidelines with the clipboard. A guy that the player can really relate with.

dal9
09-04-2010, 03:35 AM
i honestly don't have a strong opinion on w/er its good or bad, but to me it is sounding like they are keeping him, as a long as he doesn't get time in the slammer...these kind of reports sure look like they are setting the stage for a "second" chance...

pathil275
09-04-2010, 05:46 AM
It is good to read a statement regarding Lance's pending status. Finally, the Pacers addressed the public, although I can totally understand why they wanted to cool the incident down the first couple of weeks.

"We've put Lance in a position where he can begin to work his way back into the good graces of the team [...]", Kellogg explained.

So I not only interpret that as a chance for Lance to come back and make the team (granted that the outcome of the hearing is positive) but also take that as an indication that the case isn't as black and white as it first appeared when the news came out. Otherwise the Pacers wouldn't bother too much, right? But then again, I could construe too much in that statement and Kellogg's work is just part of the social responsibility the Pacers have with helping young people, regardless of what they did.

Anyway, I don't expect Lance to be shopped around until the hearing took place.

MLB007
09-04-2010, 07:45 AM
I hope Clark Kellogg is moving into position as Head Coach. Hes what this team needs out there on the sidelines with the clipboard. A guy that the player can really relate with.

Which is one fraction of the job. :)

MLB007
09-04-2010, 07:46 AM
But assuming the worst and a conviction holds up the vicious details of Stephenson's arrest, which in turn leadsto the Pacers cutting ties, it would make for a smoother transition if Stephenson didn't develop the relationships and bonds with teammates and staff from working together at the Fieldhouse every day. Regardless, the Fieldhouse exile is a strong indication that Stephenson's days are numbered, save for a positive legal result.

xBulletproof
09-04-2010, 08:29 AM
Thank God.

I don't say that because I want Lance on this team so badly, but more because this is just simply the absolute right thing to do. It's refreshing to see that not only do they want the players to do the "right thing", but that the Pacers from the top of the organization are willing to do exactly what they ask of the players. Things that just a decent human being should be willing to do.

I was pretty disgusted with the people on here blabbing about how it's not "the Pacers job" to help this young man and were willing to just turn their backs on him and just shove him out the damn door. Whether it's their "job" or not is irrelevant. They have the means to help him, and there's no real reason not to. Even if he doesn't ever wear a Pacers uniform, I would be okay if he went on to have a good NBA career somewhere else because of the help he received here. Why? Because it's just the right damn thing to do. Exactly what the men at the top are asking of the players themselves. I'm glad to see they aren't hypocrites and it makes me even more proud to support this organization.

That's like walking by someone dying of thirst, and you're walking with 2 bottles of water in your hand and just keep on going. Refusing to help because it's "not your job". Who cares, right? Thank God the Pacers aren't run by some of the people who post here.

Putnam
09-04-2010, 08:38 AM
It is a weird sort of Schroedinger's Cat situation. Stephenson is either guilty and bound for prison, or else he is innocent and merely a young man with a troubled past. The cat is either dead or alive inside the box, but we don't know which.

The Pacers can't wait 'til the box is open -- they have to deal with him right now when the probability that he has a future with the team is greater than zero but less than one.

Trophy
09-04-2010, 08:52 AM
Clark's a great guy. I'm glad he's the one working with Lance.

5_7_Clash
09-04-2010, 08:54 AM
It is a weird sort of Schroedinger's Cat situation. Stephenson is either guilty and bound for prison, or else he is innocent and merely a young man with a troubled past. The cat is either dead or alive inside the box, but we don't know which.

The Pacers can't wait 'til the box is open -- they have to deal with him right now when the probability that he has a future with the team is greater than zero but less than one.

I hope Lance will succeed and develop under the positive assistance that he will inevitably receive while he's associated with the Pacer organization. I really do. However, they cannot be blindly led by the carrot of his potential and ignore what has happened to this team in the past in similar situations. The definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over and expect a different result.

I don't want to open the box. That cat is dead, I'm afraid, because this whole thing is starting to take on a nasty odor.

McKeyFan
09-04-2010, 09:37 AM
If you eat from the fruit of the tree of penetration, the cat will surely die.

mildlysane
09-04-2010, 10:35 AM
It is a weird sort of Schroedinger's Cat situation. Stephenson is either guilty and bound for prison, or else he is innocent and merely a young man with a troubled past. The cat is either dead or alive inside the box, but we don't know which.

The Pacers can't wait 'til the box is open -- they have to deal with him right now when the probability that he has a future with the team is greater than zero but less than one.
Great analogy...so right now he is both, until observed. Awesome!

Justin Tyme
09-04-2010, 11:07 AM
the Pacers aren't run by some of the people who post here.


Yeah, like those that are willing to down play Stephenson's problems or are willing to put the franchise in jeopardy with their "win at all costs" attitudes.

xBulletproof
09-04-2010, 11:46 AM
Yeah, like those that are willing to down play Stephenson's problems or are willing to put the franchise in jeopardy with their "win at all costs" attitudes.

:rolleyes:

Good God yes, lets have this argument for the 1000th time this week!

This silly reply has nothing to do with my point. Reread the first damn sentence in my post. It was there for a purpose. To avoid someone posting with an incredibly uncreative and dull reply like this. My post has nothing to do with the Pacers image, or winning or losing games. My post was about people doing the right thing for other people, and how some people lose sight of that.

Apparently nothing else on Earth matters, except the Pacers image to some. Including helping a potentially lost 19 year old man. Which is quite a messed up contradiction. What's truthfully better for your image as an organization? To use people and throw them out the door without regard for anything else? Or to help guide a young man down a better path regardless of if he ever wears a Pacers uniform?

HeliumFear
09-04-2010, 06:36 PM
Regardless of whether or not Lance ever steps onto the court again,I'm glad he's getting help. This is a good thing for the Pacers to do. He needs help and it is the right thing for the Pacers to do it.

Is it really a good thing if the Pacers are so image conscious that they completely throw the kid out on his butt,when that kid is still just as troubled,if not more so now? That's cold and it's wrong. On top of all that,he IS under contract with the Pacers,and that definitely makes it the Pacers' responsibilty to help him out.

Day-V
09-04-2010, 06:52 PM
Apparently nothing else on Earth matters, except the Pacers image to some.


Sad but true. At this point, I could care less about our "image". I want W's. Having a bunch of milk-drinkers miss the playoffs the last 5 years got old real quick.

Sookie
09-04-2010, 07:04 PM
:rolleyes:

Good God yes, lets have this argument for the 1000th time this week!

This silly reply has nothing to do with my point. Reread the first damn sentence in my post. It was there for a purpose. To avoid someone posting with an incredibly uncreative and dull reply like this. My post has nothing to do with the Pacers image, or winning or losing games. My post was about people doing the right thing for other people, and how some people lose sight of that.

Apparently nothing else on Earth matters, except the Pacers image to some. Including helping a potentially lost 19 year old man. Which is quite a messed up contradiction. What's truthfully better for your image as an organization? To use people and throw them out the door without regard for anything else? Or to help guide a young man down a better path regardless of if he ever wears a Pacers uniform?

Apparently nothing else on Earth matters, except winning a few basketball games.

I understand what you are saying. And Lance does need help. He also needs some education and some severe punishment. And he shouldn't get let off easy because he's talanted.

Set him up with some help..that's a good thing. But if he did it, he doesn't belong on an NBA team, he belongs in jail.

BlueNGold
09-04-2010, 11:25 PM
Regardless of whether or not Lance ever steps onto the court again,I'm glad he's getting help. This is a good thing for the Pacers to do. He needs help and it is the right thing for the Pacers to do it.

Is it really a good thing if the Pacers are so image conscious that they completely throw the kid out on his butt,when that kid is still just as troubled,if not more so now? That's cold and it's wrong. On top of all that,he IS under contract with the Pacers,and that definitely makes it the Pacers' responsibilty to help him out.

I really, really liked this post until the last sentence. I still like the post, but it is not the Pacers' responsibility to help him out. He is an adult who signed an agreement with an employer. Whatever else the Pacers do beyond that agreement is their choice entirely.

The Pacers are going to help him for several reasons...some because it's the right thing to do...and some because it's good business.