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gopacers1179
07-06-2010, 02:50 PM
http://blacksportsonline.com/home/index.php/2010/07/the-top-25-nba-career-salaries-of-all-time/

Note: Salary leaders are for the 1968 through 2010 NBA seasons.

Im sure these players would like to personally thank Jordan, Magic, and Bird for making their pockets FAAAATTTT!!!! A few undeserving clowns on this list....


1. Shaquille O’Neal — $290,846,146
2. Kevin Garnett — $251,315,354
3. Chris Webber — $178,230,697
4. Kobe Bryant — $171,384,365
5. Jason Kidd — $165,853,968
6. Tim Duncan — $164,844,536
7. Tracy McGrady — $160,273,916
8. Allen Iverson — $154,494,445
9. Jermaine O’Neal — $153,450,640
10. Stephon Marbury — $151,115,945
11. Rasheed Wallace — $150,436,080
12. Juwan Howard — $148,761,271
13. Alonzo Mourning — $143,906,333
14. Dikembe Mutombo — $143,666,581
15. Michael Finley — $138,576,839
16. Grant Hill — $131,055,650
17. Dirk Nowitzki — $124,063,985
18. Patrick Ewing — $123,843,120
19. Zydrunas Ilgauskas — $123,135,542
20. Anfernee Hardaway — $120,469,142
21. David Robinson — $118,135,623
22. Allan Houston — $117,556,500
23. Vince Carter — $116,793,315
24. Antawn Jamison — $111,358,288
25. Elton Brand — $110,159,451

OakMoses
07-06-2010, 04:41 PM
Interesting that there's at least 10 of those guys who won't make the Hall of Fame.

joew8302
07-06-2010, 04:44 PM
Ha, Jermaine Oneal might be one of the biggest undeserving clowns on that list.

CooperManning
07-06-2010, 04:49 PM
In case anyone else was puzzled as to why Jordan wasn't on that list.

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/5536/screenshot20100706at349.png
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html

J.O. should write Jordan a $1 million check just cuz.

Kstat
07-06-2010, 04:51 PM
I'm amused that Jordan, while not being on that list, had two of the highest-paid seasons of all time, 12 and 13 years ago.

Honestly, if he made $30 million every season, he still wouldn't have been overpaid.

joew8302
07-06-2010, 04:55 PM
Wow, that is pretty revealing coop. Chris Webber has made roughly double the amt MJ has, which is crazy.

pacers74
07-06-2010, 04:55 PM
I counted 14 that shouldn't make the hall of fame.

Kstat
07-06-2010, 04:57 PM
Wow, that is pretty revealing coop. Chris Webber has made roughly double the amt MJ has, which is crazy.

At least Webber was a hall of fame caliber player. What is Juwan Howard doing at #12? The guy made ONE all-star team in 16 seasons.

docpaul
07-06-2010, 05:00 PM
Go ahead and add Joe Johnson and Amare Stoudameire to the list...

Seeing this list puts the signings of the past week into a sharp perspective.

Makes me appreciate just how overheated some of these deals are. :)

CooperManning
07-06-2010, 05:03 PM
Shaq has gotten paid just under $42,000 every day for the last 19 years.

WHO SAYS WE NEED A NEW CBA?

That doesn't include endorsements by the way.

vnzla81
07-06-2010, 05:05 PM
Gilbert Arenas should be on that list

tadscout
07-06-2010, 05:08 PM
Gilbert Arenas should be on that list

:eek: :-o :hmm:

Not sure how he should be...

Edit-- Oh you meant salary wise he was left off... not the he earned his place on the list...

vnzla81
07-06-2010, 05:15 PM
:eek: :-o :hmm:

Not sure how he should be...

Edit-- Oh you meant salary wise he was left off... not the he earned his place on the list...

yep, another player that is going to be on that list is Rashard Lewis

Day-V
07-06-2010, 05:38 PM
Im sure these players would like to personally thank Jordan, Magic, and Bird for making their pockets FAAAATTTT!!!!

That, or inflation.

PacerDude
07-06-2010, 06:23 PM
I wonder how many of them will be broke in 5 years or so.

joew8302
07-06-2010, 08:17 PM
That, or inflation.

of that. I mean look at Michael Jordan's rookie salary compared to what Favors will get. Inflation can't account for that big of a jump.

gopacers1179
07-06-2010, 08:32 PM
the reason is Bird, MJ, and Magic took the game global and produced all kinds of funds from areas of the world that were untapped. Them and the Dream Team let every player who had "franchise player" potential get hella paid.

Eleazar
07-06-2010, 10:11 PM
Now I understand that contracts go up over time, but the 90's were only 10 years ago. you would think that about half, give or take, of the list would be of players who spent the majority of their career in the 90's. On top of that a little less than half of that list is full of players that were nothing more than decent starters. I don't think there is a sport that overpays their players more than the NBA.

BRushWithDeath
07-06-2010, 10:12 PM
I don't think there is a sport that overpays their players more than the NBA.

I challenge you to look at nearly any MLB contract.

gopacers1179
07-06-2010, 10:15 PM
I don't think there is a sport that overpays their players more than the NBA. yeh its a damn shame I agree. Croshere was paid more than Marshall Faulk in his prime. What a crime

beast23
07-06-2010, 10:50 PM
Looking at the list just makes me shake my head.

So many people say good for the players. It's a free market. They deserve everything they can get.

But, J.C.!!!! 290M for playing a freaking game. And we wonder why our ticket prices are so outrageous.

Let's see. The president makes 400K per year. So if he was allowed to be in office for a 20-year career, he'd make 8M. And a freaking bball player gets paid 290M for his career.

Does anyone else seem to see the lack of balance here?

MrSparko
07-06-2010, 10:58 PM
Maybe when more than 50% care to vote the president will be paid more. Sports is an interesting creature. "Sports" is one of the most popular things in human history, and you combine that with tv, advertising, and owners who consider owning sport franchises as more of a hobby than anything and are willing (usually) to suffer losses from them every year.

Boom. Huge contracts.

xBulletproof
07-06-2010, 10:58 PM
I challenge you to look at nearly any MLB contract.

I take offense to that. Besides the fact that it's an extremely exaggerated comment to begin with.

King Tuts Tomb
07-07-2010, 12:24 AM
Why is everybody so offended by this? Would you rather the owners just take a larger cut? The money has to go somewhere, might as well be to the players.

beast23
07-07-2010, 12:32 AM
Why is everybody so offended by this? Would you rather the owners just take a larger cut? The money has to go somewhere, might as well be to the players.Yes and no. My perspective is that there should be less money going anywhere.

The vast majority of the expense in pro basketball from an owner's perspective is salary being paid to players. Therefore, the first step in reducing the cost to the average attending fan is to cut back player salaries.

The majority of owners have taken a bath for a number of years now. You would be correct if you stated that lesser salaries being paid would not result in an IMMEDIATE reduction in ticket prices. But with lower expenses for owners, it eventually would happen.

MillerTime
07-07-2010, 12:38 AM
In case anyone else was puzzled as to why Jordan wasn't on that list.

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/5536/screenshot20100706at349.png
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html

J.O. should write Jordan a $1 million check just cuz.

one this to blame is inflation

Day-V
07-07-2010, 12:38 AM
I'm sorry, but I don't the reduction in player salaries will not have much, if any, effect on ticket prices. They'll continue to set prices as high as possible until fans stop showing up.

Day-V
07-07-2010, 12:39 AM
one this to blame is inflation

I said that, but apparently I was wrong?

MillerTime
07-07-2010, 12:42 AM
of that. I mean look at Michael Jordan's rookie salary compared to what Favors will get. Inflation can't account for that big of a jump.
The game is a lot more popular now than it was in the 80s and teams and players are making a lot more than they once did

But definitely inflation is a factor here

I said that, but apparently I was wrong?

sorry I didnt read the whole thread

Day-V
07-07-2010, 12:43 AM
sorry I didnt read the whole thread

Oh no, no worries. I'm just saying that I agree with you on the inflation part, but I guess that's somehow not a factor?

beast23
07-07-2010, 12:59 AM
I'm sorry, but I don't the reduction in player salaries will not have much, if any, effect on ticket prices. They'll continue to set prices as high as possible until fans stop showing up.More than likely, you are probably correct.

The one thing that I have always complained about in the CBA negotiations is that the negotiations do not include everyone who has skin in the game. They include the owner representatives and the player representatives. They even include a whole posse of lawyers for each side.

Unfortunately, they do not include representatives for the customers of the business. The fans have no voice whatsoever.

Day-V
07-07-2010, 01:03 AM
Unfortunately, they do not include representatives for the customers of the business. The fans have no voice whatsoever.

NASCAR, on the other hands, DOES let the fans have a say in business decisions and, I think, the sport is better for it.

rexnom
07-07-2010, 01:10 AM
I'm sorry, but I don't the reduction in player salaries will not have much, if any, effect on ticket prices. They'll continue to set prices as high as possible until fans stop showing up.
Umm...fans have stopped showing up. The only recourse is to limit these contracts somehow.

Day-V
07-07-2010, 01:13 AM
Umm...fans have stopped showing up. The only recourse is to limit these contracts somehow.

Well, in our case it's because we haven't produced a product worth going to see.


What I was trying to say is that for any team that is routinely successful, ticket prices more than likely still won't change as long as people keep going to the games.

rexnom
07-07-2010, 01:38 AM
I wonder if there's a better way to do this study with inflation-adjusted dollar amounts. That might change the order of the top 25 a little bit.

Young
07-07-2010, 08:32 AM
That list is exactly why NBA owners want and should get a CBA that benefits them a lot more.

King Tuts Tomb
07-07-2010, 09:28 AM
That list is exactly why NBA owners want and should get a CBA that benefits them a lot more.

The owners GAVE them those contracts! The new CBA should benefit the owners more because they're stupid? Should casinos be forced to give money back to bad gamblers?

Players make more these days because there's more money coming into the league than there was twenty five years ago. TV deals, video game licenses, jersey sales and other merchandise have pumped way more money into the league. Players are contractually obligated to get a certain percentage of that.

And player salaries are not the reason ticket prices have gone up. NBA prices have risen at the same degree as other forms of entertainment. The NFL, MLB, movies and concerts have raised their prices just as significantly.

Hicks
07-07-2010, 01:54 PM
I'm stunned that as late as the year he won his FOURTH title in 1996, Jordan was still only making less than $4,000,000 a year. Unbelievable.

ratfink
07-07-2010, 03:24 PM
Oh no, no worries. I'm just saying that I agree with you on the inflation part, but I guess that's somehow not a factor?

Inflation is partially to blame. This nifty site shows you the value of a dollar from a previous year in today's dollars.

http://www.dollartimes.com/calculators/inflation.htm

So if you take MJ's first year salary:

$630,000.00 in 1985 had the same buying power as $1,292,002.56 in 2010.

What's Derrick Favors getting, something like 4 or 5 mil? So it seems some is to inflation, but a lot isn't

Eleazar
07-07-2010, 05:16 PM
Inflation isn't a big enough factor to cause that much difference. Even with inflation you would still expect the top payed players from the 90's to make up the bottom half of the list because the 90's weren't that long ago.