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bapspacers4life
08-03-2004, 08:53 AM
Antoine Walker to be a Hawk: 08/03 -
6:09 AM
Although he expected to be traded to the Knicks, Antoine Walker will apparently be traded tomorrow from the Mavs to the Hawks for Jason Terry and Alan Henderson, a league source revealed.

Walker is owed $14.625M in the final year of his contract. Terry, a guard, has $7.5M and $6.6M left over two years, while Henderson, an injury-prone forward, is owed $8.2M for one year. :rolleyes:

Slick Pinkham
08-03-2004, 08:56 AM
http://www.nypost.com/sports/knicks/26166.htm

This is according to Vecsey, so it's not a lock.

Terry will help Dallas a lot- a very good style for him.

SycamoreKen
08-03-2004, 08:57 AM
So Dallas still doesn't have a point guard. I guess they are going to try and out score everyone again?

Unclebuck
08-03-2004, 08:59 AM
http://www.nypost.com/sports/knicks/26100.htm

CRAWFORD KNICK DEAL IS AT HAND

By PETER VECSEY and MARC BERMAN
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ON THE MOVE:
Thanks to Bulls' latest counter-offer, Jamal Crawford is expected to become a Knick as soon as today.
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August 3, 2004 -- Bull combo guard Jamal Crawford could become a Knick as soon as today, as Chicago GM John Paxson has made a counter-offer that Knick president Isiah Thomas is expected to accept, according to sources.
Paxson has removed two overpaid swingmen — the Knicks' Shandon Anderson and the Bulls' Eddie Robinson — from the deal, allowing the Bulls to save an additional $10 million in future payroll.

Though Thomas wanted to move Anderson, it appears Paxson is willing to accept Moochie Norris in a compromise the Knick president couldn't refuse.

Meanwhile, The Post has also learned Golden State center Erick Dampier will visit the Knicks in New York this week, an indication the Knicks are still very much in the hunt.

If the Crawford deal goes through as expected, the Knicks still have the pawns to trade for Dampier or at least be in position to award him the mid-level exception. Nazr Mohammed, Kurt Thomas and Othella Harrington are all available in a Dampier package.


In a related story, the Hawks are now talking to Dallas about Antoine Walker.

Meanwhile, the pared-down Crawford package would likely include Dikembe Mutombo, Norris and $3 million moving to the Bulls for Jerome Williams and Crawford, at the very least. It's unclear if the newest offer attempted to bring back Frank Williams in the package. Crawford would sign a six-year, $55 million contract.



Paxson had expressed his desire to jettison both Williams and Robinson in this trade. Although Paxson thought Anderson could be a good defensive role player, his contract that has three years and $23.7 million left on it is one of the NBA's worst, more severe than Robinson's (2 years, $14M). Isiah had hoped to rid himself of Anderson, whose offensive performance in the playoffs was pitiful.

The sign-and-trade talks for the Bulls combo guard has been interminable, lasting all of July and hitting another roadblock a week ago when the two sides met face-to-face in the Windy City Summit at O'Hare Airport with Isiah trying to convince the Bulls Norris' pact is not insufferable because the last year is not guaranteed.

On Saturday, agent Aaron Goodwin said progress was made since the summit and a source indicated the sides had moved on past the Moochie issue. "I'm a little frustrated, but it will get better," Goodwin told The Post Saturday. "Chicago wants the perfect deal. We're trying to get them to accept a very good one."

Goodwin declined comment last night.






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Slick Pinkham
08-03-2004, 09:05 AM
Al Harrington will have fewer shots to take if Antoine is hoisting them up as usual in Atlanta.

Doug
08-03-2004, 09:16 AM
Am I missing something? I just don't see this helping Atlanta except with cap space next year.

Austin's going to have huge trade value the last year of his contract. :-)

Jose Slaughter
08-03-2004, 09:18 AM
Yes, but there will be no Jason Terry so it kindda balances out.

SycamoreKen
08-03-2004, 09:33 AM
Yes, but there will be no Jason Terry so it kindda balances out.

Walker has averaged 1492 shots a season while Terry has averaged 1105, so Al will lose a few more than if Terry had been there. If you discount last season's shot sacrafic for the good of the team, Walker's average goes up to 1564 a year. I'm thinking that is what he will be closer to with the Hawks, unless he focuses on his passing to make up for the fact they do not have a point guard.

And we thought we had a log jam at the SF position. That is 2/3 of the Hawks team.

rel
08-03-2004, 09:47 AM
so if this happens, there lineup would look like this:

pg ??royal ivey??
sg childress
sf walker
pf harrington
c rebraca

... what about josh smith(f), their other rookie. i guess he'll be on the bench.

Fool
08-03-2004, 09:53 AM
I would guess that after missing out on almost every free agent this year the Hawks have simply decided to wait till next year to build their team. Anyone know who will have space other than the Hawks next year?

Ultimate Frisbee
08-03-2004, 10:53 AM
I would guess that after missing out on almost every free agent this year the Hawks have simply decided to wait till next year to build their team. Anyone know who will have space other than the Hawks next year?


Charlotte, Cleveland, Golden
State, Clippers, New Jersey (if they get rid of Kidd), Portland, and Seattle will all be significantly under the cap, with a few others having only a little cap space...

blanket
08-03-2004, 11:02 AM
so if this happens, there lineup would look like this:

pg ??royal ivey??
sg childress
sf walker
pf harrington
c rebraca

... what about josh smith(f), their other rookie. i guess he'll be on the bench.

I would expect Collier to get the start at center. They resigned him this summer, and Rebraca is still a FA. Either way, they'll be competing with the Bobcats for worst record :o

Unclebuck
08-03-2004, 11:12 AM
I think AL and Walker will make a pretty good forward tandem. Walker is an excellent passer, and I think that combo will be a good combo.

DisplacedKnick
08-03-2004, 11:26 AM
This is just a great deal for Dallas. They replace Nash with a younger, healthier guy who's making less and hang onto some cap relief.

Lord Helmet
08-03-2004, 11:35 AM
Hawks will still be a lottery team though.

Kstat
08-03-2004, 01:15 PM
A lot of people are forgetting the Mavs have a very good young PG in Devin Harris. I wouldn't put it past Harris to take the starting PG job from Terry.

Bball
08-03-2004, 01:42 PM
Would anybody be surprised if Al ends up coming off the bench for the Hawks before the season is over?

-Bball

Ultimate Frisbee
08-03-2004, 01:53 PM
Would anybody be surprised if Al ends up coming off the bench for the Hawks before the season is over?

-Bball

I would!! I think Al is good enough to start and contribute on at least 50% of the teams in the league, and definently on the Hawks...

Kstat
08-03-2004, 01:57 PM
Al is STILL the best player the Hawks have.

SycamoreKen
08-03-2004, 02:21 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?id=1851245

Here is Stein's story:



By Marc Stein
ESPN.com

The Dallas Mavericks are expected to complete a trade Wednesday that will send Antoine Walker and guard Tony Delk to the Atlanta Hawks for guard Jason Terry and forward Alan Henderson, league sources have told ESPN.com.


With the league office closed Tuesday, the deal cannot be finalized before Wednesday, sources said. Atlanta would also receive Philadelphia's protected first-round pick in 2005.



Terry, left, would replace Steve Nash, while Walker, right, could be an East All-Star.


The trade increases the likelihood that Jason Kidd will be staying with the New Jersey Nets. One source close to Kidd told ESPN.com last week that Dallas' Mark Cuban appeared to be the only owner in the league willing to absorb the remaining five years and $90 million on Kidd's contract in a trade.


But with the Nets not ready to deal Kidd -- and Kidd not yet demanding a trade -- Cuban opted for an immediate move to help fill the void at point guard created by Steve Nash's departure.


Although Terry is much more of a shooting guard than Nash, he has only two seasons left on a three-year, $24 million deal signed last summer -- making Terry a trade asset as well as a potential Nash replacement. Henderson is entering the final season of a seven-year, $45 million deal, meaning the Mavericks will still have two expiring contracts on the payroll -- Henderson and Christian Laettner -- to peddle in additional trades between now and February.


In Walker, Atlanta gets a former Eastern Conference All-Star who was shopped to several teams because he, too, is in the final year of his contract. Walker thus has ample motivation to put forth a strong season, although he had hoped to go to New York (Isiah Thomas is a 'Toine fan) or Philadelphia (whose new coach is Jim O'Brien, Walker's former boss in Boston).


Sources said the Mavericks have not ruled out pursuing Kidd later in the season, after Kidd proves his health following July 1 knee surgery. Acquiring Terry gives Dallas a point guard to offer New Jersey down the road while also protecting the Mavericks in case they can't strike a deal with the Nets.

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Looks like Delk will start for Atlanta.

Kstat, I have no dobt that Harris will be starting by the end of the season. That would probably make Terry happy not having to run the team. He would make a great 6th man & sparke plug off the bench.

Arcadian
08-03-2004, 03:32 PM
With Nellie running things I have no idea who will start where.

Does this mean the Hawks are going to build around Al? I don't know if the Hawks can afford to make trades where they aren't getting talent in return. Free agents will not want to sign there no matter how much cap room they have.

Slick Pinkham
08-03-2004, 03:35 PM
So the Celtics were roasted for getting only Raef LaFrentz and Jiri Welsch, and a draft pick for Antoine.

Dallas gets Terry (a 6'1" shooting guard, no matter how you look at it) and an expensive guy they might cut.

I think Dallas discovered why the Celtics wanted to rid themselves of Antoine, and couldn't get much more for him than the Celtics did.

DisplacedKnick
08-03-2004, 04:55 PM
A lot of people are forgetting the Mavs have a very good young PG in Devin Harris. I wouldn't put it past Harris to take the starting PG job from Terry.

I don't see Harris being ready to start for them as a rookie - especially coming from a system that stressed halfcourt, ball control offense.

Kegboy
08-03-2004, 05:16 PM
A lot of people are forgetting the Mavs have a very good young PG in Devin Harris. I wouldn't put it past Harris to take the starting PG job from Terry.

I don't see Harris being ready to start for them as a rookie - especially coming from a system that stressed halfcourt, ball control offense.

Good point.

I guess we'll see if Terry can cut it on a good (or, well, decent) team. I'm just glad he didn't come here. :happydance:

JOneal7
08-03-2004, 07:01 PM
oh please! Peter Vescey...mwuahuwhuahua....he thinks everyones coming to the damn knicks. So if he says JCraw is, im sure he isn't. Hes almost nEVER right,....
as for JT going to the mavs, that blows..lol

PacerBlade
08-03-2004, 07:54 PM
NO! Harrinton's chances to prove his skills are gone!

:scream:

SycamoreKen
08-03-2004, 08:00 PM
NO! Harrinton's chances to prove his skills are gone!

:scream:

Don't worry, Al's going to get his shot at proving himself. Walker will be more than happy to stand at the 3 point line and jack them up. Now if Al doesn't throw it back out to him every once in a while there could be a problem. (I need a black hole Emoticon to put here!;))