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PacerGuy
04-19-2010, 12:01 AM
Just a thought....
I know this might be better suited for the trade forum, but as it relates to recent news and comments related to Birds off-season plan of looking a a vet option vs. more rookies, I thought there was more to discuss then just a swap of players.
I have read both here & elsewhere in the past, suggestions by some sort of a "Murph to Utah" deal (for Boozer), only to be shot down because Ocur & Murph are too much alike, & Utah,s play-off opportunities.
But..... w/ Okur's recent injury: (http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/66049/20100418/okur_out_three_to_six_months/)
and the fact that Boozer will likely leave this summer, I was left wondering, what if....
Why for Utah?
Murph fills Okur's role in the offense untill he is 100% healthy. Murph's expiring, along w/ AK47's gives Utah a great start at rebuilding a core around D.Williams going forward. Utah has NY's #9 pick, & is we did a deal centered around a S&T Boozer for Murph & #10, Utah would have some very good options & future cap to rebuild around. Besides, Mipsap is their PF of the future, not CB. Utah (& Boozer) would likely both look for a S&T & we seem to be able to offer a decent deal w/ relativeness to Utah's needs.
Why for IN?
We get pt. 2 of the Dynamic Dou! C.Booxer adds toughness, scoring & a true "#2" option to the team, & would be an ideal fit next to Roy, IMO. The deal could be altered &/or expanded, as Foster could also add interest to Utah. Not sure if we could keep #10 & still land CB, but if we could (Murph/Foster/#40, future 1st for resigned C.Boozer/(Koufos?)) then we would be in a place to look at PG (Bledsoe), SG (Henery), or trade down (Miami/ Minn?) & pick up assets.

Thoughts?

Day-V
04-19-2010, 12:03 AM
It'd never happen. We're the Pacers. We never get good deals like this.

duke dynamite
04-19-2010, 12:06 AM
It'd never happen. We're the Pacers. We never get good deals like this.

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Day-V
04-19-2010, 12:11 AM
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Only in a Fairy Tale would we get rid of a guy like Murphy and pick up a guy like Boozer.

Kstat
04-19-2010, 12:22 AM
Last I checked, Okur's career wasn't over.

rexnom
04-19-2010, 05:46 AM
Last I checked, Okur's career wasn't over.
Yeah, he might be back before the regular season starts back up again, it looks like.

PacerGuy
04-19-2010, 07:30 AM
Yeah, he might be back before the regular season starts back up again, it looks like.

Possible, I get that, but this is a very dificult injury to fullt recover from in just 6 months.
Also, Utah will be looking to assist Carlos this summer, & my thought was we might have enough assets to atleast be in the discussion. I am aware this is a stretch, but IMO it is the kind of deal L.Bird will be looking for if he plans on taking on a big contract.

QuickRelease
04-19-2010, 08:46 AM
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Kstat
04-19-2010, 10:05 AM
Possible, I get that, but this is a very dificult injury to fullt recover from in just 6 months.

Not really. It wasn't a total rupture. it's a 4-6 month injury.

jeffg-body
04-20-2010, 01:18 AM
If we could somehow swing that trade and keep the #10 pick and be in contention to sign a player like Bledsoe I'd be all over that.

NappyRootz
04-25-2010, 11:08 PM
Just a thought....
I know this might be better suited for the trade forum, but as it relates to recent news and comments related to Birds off-season plan of looking a a vet option vs. more rookies, I thought there was more to discuss then just a swap of players.
I have read both here & elsewhere in the past, suggestions by some sort of a "Murph to Utah" deal (for Boozer), only to be shot down because Ocur & Murph are too much alike, & Utah,s play-off opportunities.
But..... w/ Okur's recent injury: (http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/66049/20100418/okur_out_three_to_six_months/)
and the fact that Boozer will likely leave this summer, I was left wondering, what if....
Why for Utah?
Murph fills Okur's role in the offense untill he is 100% healthy. Murph's expiring, along w/ AK47's gives Utah a great start at rebuilding a core around D.Williams going forward. Utah has NY's #9 pick, & is we did a deal centered around a S&T Boozer for Murph & #10, Utah would have some very good options & future cap to rebuild around. Besides, Mipsap is their PF of the future, not CB. Utah (& Boozer) would likely both look for a S&T & we seem to be able to offer a decent deal w/ relativeness to Utah's needs.
Why for IN?
We get pt. 2 of the Dynamic Dou! C.Booxer adds toughness, scoring & a true "#2" option to the team, & would be an ideal fit next to Roy, IMO. The deal could be altered &/or expanded, as Foster could also add interest to Utah. Not sure if we could keep #10 & still land CB, but if we could (Murph/Foster/#40, future 1st for resigned C.Boozer/(Koufos?)) then we would be in a place to look at PG (Bledsoe), SG (Henery), or trade down (Miami/ Minn?) & pick up assets.

Thoughts?

Two MAJOR problems with this:

1. Boozer would have to agree to come to Indiana and not a more preferable (winning) situation.

2. The ONLY way #1 gets satisfied is if the Pacers were willing to overpay signficantly (Max Contract) the market.

The second bullet is the true deal breaker because there is no way that the Pacers commit to a $100mm deal for an aging warrior who likely is nearing the end of a tremendous career when we are staring at a lockout and a new economic climate in another year.

I cant see the Pacers taking on too much salary anytime soon unless they feel they can get a cornerstone player signed at a reasonable cost. Boozer won't fit in their cost structure.