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wintermute
02-12-2010, 01:27 PM
referencing the rumored murphy-kenny thomas swap.

i know we'd like to get jason thompson and kenny thomas' expiring contract for murphy, but it seems improbable to me. on the other hand, we also know that the kings would like to move beno udrih's really long contract (all the way up to 2013).

how about:

murphy, watson, diener for thompson, thomas, udrih

the price for getting thompson is taking on udrih's contract, who will take over the backup pg role (no doubt for many years to come thanks to his contract).

the difference of murphy's contract to udrih's is about $5m, which should still be enough to get us under the luxury tax next year.

kenny thomas can be bought out.

watson and diener are both expiring contracts, so sacto might still end up with a little cap room next year.

thoughts?

Jose Slaughter
02-12-2010, 02:05 PM
Bird would do nothing to add salary past 10-11, talking Beno here. Plus he is not the answer at point so I doubt there would be an interest.

Look for a team with two young promising points.... The Bobcats & T-Wolves come to mind but there might be others.

Could Bird be looking at Felton or try to send pieces to MN for Rubio?

PacerDude
02-12-2010, 09:34 PM
Jose .............. where ya been ??

esabyrn333
02-13-2010, 07:08 PM
Indiana Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +12.9 ppg, -1.8 rpg, and +1.4 apg.

<TABLE class=breakdowntable width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TH colSpan=2 scope=col>Incoming Players</TH></TR><TR><TD class=photo>http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Martin_Kevin_sac.jpg </TD><TD>Kevin Martin
6-7 SG from Western Carolina
20.8 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 2.6 apg in 36.1 minutes </TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo>http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Udrih_Beno_sac.jpg </TD><TD class=even>Beno Udrih
6-3 PG from Slovenia (Foreign)
12.2 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 3.8 apg in 29.0 minutes </TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo>http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Thompson_Jason_sac.jpg </TD><TD>Jason Thompson
6-11 PF from Rider
12.8 ppg, 8.7 rpg, 1.9 apg in 32.3 minutes </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class=breakdowntable width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TH colSpan=2 scope=col>Outgoing Players</TH></TR><TR><TD class=photo>http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Murphy_Troy_ind.jpg </TD><TD>Troy Murphy
6-11 PF from Notre Dame
14.0 ppg, 9.9 rpg, 2.0 apg in 31.4 minutes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo>http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Ford_TJ_ind.jpg </TD><TD class=even>T.J. Ford
5-11 PG from Texas
10.2 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 3.6 apg in 24.6 minutes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo>http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Rush_Brandon_ind.jpg </TD><TD>Brandon Rush
6-6 SF from Kansas
8.7 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 1.3 apg in 28.9 minutes</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Sparhawk
02-13-2010, 11:13 PM
esabyrn333

I like the trade initially, but I'd like to know if the Pacers are taking on salary or shedding more. I think Martin and Udrih have more years than Ford and Murphy, so I'm not too sure about that.

Solomon Grundy
02-14-2010, 06:37 PM
Indiana Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +12.9 ppg, -1.8 rpg, and +1.4 apg.

<TABLE class=breakdowntable width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TH colSpan=2 scope=col>Incoming Players</TH></TR><TR><TD class=photo>http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Martin_Kevin_sac.jpg </TD><TD>Kevin Martin
6-7 SG from Western Carolina
20.8 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 2.6 apg in 36.1 minutes </TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo>http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Udrih_Beno_sac.jpg </TD><TD class=even>Beno Udrih
6-3 PG from Slovenia (Foreign)
12.2 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 3.8 apg in 29.0 minutes </TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo>http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Thompson_Jason_sac.jpg </TD><TD>Jason Thompson
6-11 PF from Rider
12.8 ppg, 8.7 rpg, 1.9 apg in 32.3 minutes </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class=breakdowntable width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TH colSpan=2 scope=col>Outgoing Players</TH></TR><TR><TD class=photo>http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Murphy_Troy_ind.jpg </TD><TD>Troy Murphy
6-11 PF from Notre Dame
14.0 ppg, 9.9 rpg, 2.0 apg in 31.4 minutes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo>http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Ford_TJ_ind.jpg </TD><TD class=even>T.J. Ford
5-11 PG from Texas
10.2 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 3.6 apg in 24.6 minutes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo>http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Rush_Brandon_ind.jpg </TD><TD>Brandon Rush
6-6 SF from Kansas
8.7 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 1.3 apg in 28.9 minutes</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

I'd cry tears of happiness if that deal were possible.

Thesterovic
02-14-2010, 08:28 PM
The whole point of the trade for Sacramento is to shed Martin and Beno's contracts. There is no way the deal is done without Beno. But Thompson is a future all star, Kevin is amazing, and Beno is very serviceable as a starter until we get our answer. Then we still have Mike's 10.5m expiring contract, which might get Cleveland Amare Stoudamire or Antawn Jamison along with a top 5 pick, and another first next year.