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vnzla81
02-09-2010, 06:45 PM
I was watching the Avery Jhonson interview on PTI and they asking about how bad he wanted to come back to coaching and he responded by saying that he was ready, that coaching is his passion and is waiting for that phone call, should the pacers fire JOB and give AJ a call. What do you guys think? could he be a good coach for the pacers?

Anthem
02-09-2010, 06:51 PM
That would be a serious upgrade.

I'd probably do it as an offseason move, though. At this point you might as well ride it out. If you fire Obie I'd just give Lester the job.

vnzla81
02-09-2010, 06:55 PM
That would be a serious upgrade.

I'd probably do it as an offseason move, though. At this point you might as well ride it out. If you fire Obie I'd just give Lester the job.

I agree, I think that Larry is sending a message to the future coach that not matter what he is going to support him, he is supporting JOB an we suck, just imagine a coach who can do more with this team. This summer is going to be excited because there would be a lot of things going on with the pacers, I hope I new coach and some trades also.

jhondog28
02-09-2010, 07:01 PM
He would be perfect for AJ Price. I also know Dunleavy and Murphy love him when they played with him in Golden State

Midcoasted
02-09-2010, 07:03 PM
O'Brien needs to go. Now. Avery would be a great coach for us. I would really like to see Mark Jackson or Antonio Davis. That would be awesome. Maybe we get the old team together to be the coaching staff. Rik already lives in Indy. Pay him to mentor Roy. I just don't know about Reggie. I think he has given up on us.

So do we do it this year or wait til next? I just think the coaches attitude is a detriment to the team anymore.

pianoman
02-09-2010, 07:10 PM
Been preachin Avery's name to the choir for at least the past year. Many don't seem to think he'd be a good coach... I think he'd be a great coach for us. I'd say why not?

McKeyFan
02-09-2010, 07:18 PM
I can go with Avery.

Dallas had no low post threat when they lost to Golden State.

MillerTime
02-09-2010, 07:19 PM
JOB is going nowhere. Bird extended his contract late Sept 2009 making us obligated to pay him through the 2010-2011 season. Most people saw the contract extension very premature and thought it could have waited. If Bird fires JOB now, it'll look bad on his decision making

Bball
02-09-2010, 07:23 PM
If Bird fires JOB now, it'll look bad on his decision making

And keeping him looks good on his decision making???

I don't know enough about Avery. I'm so sick of O'Brien I'd about take anyone though just to see him gone.... and I'm sure Avery is better than several other 'anyone's' that could be picked.

Can he be at Conseco in 30 minutes?

cinotimz
02-09-2010, 07:52 PM
JOB is going nowhere. Bird extended his contract late Sept 2009 making us obligated to pay him through the 2010-2011 season. Most people saw the contract extension very premature and thought it could have waited. If Bird fires JOB now, it'll look bad on his decision making

JOB will be let go within a week after the season ends. Book it. I dont think theres anyone, including JOB, that doesnt believe that.

MillerTime
02-09-2010, 08:31 PM
JOB will be let go within a week after the season ends. Book it. I dont think theres anyone, including JOB, that doesnt believe that.

I hope youre right. I hate seeing JOB as our coach. There is some good coaching candidates out there. I would be more than happy with Avery, Byron Scott or Frank as our coach

d_c
02-09-2010, 08:34 PM
I would really like to see Mark Jackson or Antonio Davis. That would be awesome.

I still have no idea what the infatuation is over guys who haven't spent a single day in their life as an assistant coach at any level of basketball.

I mean, I'd like to see those two guys, too......as assistant coaches for a few seasons first.

MillerTime
02-09-2010, 08:38 PM
I still have no idea what the infatuation is over guys who haven't spent a single day in their life as an assistant coach at any level of basketball.

I mean, I'd like to see those two guys, too......as assistant coaches for a few seasons first.

Thats EXACTLY what Ive been thinking. None of those guys have any experience at this level

cdash
02-09-2010, 08:41 PM
Pass on the control freak with an annoying voice.

d_c
02-09-2010, 08:43 PM
Thats EXACTLY what Ive been thinking. None of those guys have any experience at this level

It just blows my mind when people mention that kind of stuff. The league is chalk full of hardworking assistants who have paid their dues, spent countless hours working with players, breaking down film, helping to run practices, going over scouting reports. Those guys deserve a chance.

Oh, but Mark Jackson sounds so articulate on TV and Antonio Davis is just a great guy. Give me a break. It's that exact same logic that the Detroit Lions used to hire Matt Millen as a GM (he had zero previous experience as a coach, scout, executive or player development guy). Those guys have proven nothing in the coaching ranks. It's an insult to the guys who have actually put in the work and gained the experience.

kellogg
02-09-2010, 08:43 PM
JOB is going nowhere. Bird extended his contract late Sept 2009 making us obligated to pay him through the 2010-2011 season. Most people saw the contract extension very premature and thought it could have waited. If Bird fires JOB now, it'll look bad on his decision making


Please tell me that this isn't true?!!! Next season, too?!!!

I will burn the remaining season tickets I own and refuse to purchase them next year unless JOB is gone.

d_c
02-09-2010, 08:49 PM
Pass on the control freak with an annoying voice.

Re: Avery

Avery is a good motivational guy, but he'll wear on players. He'll call guys out in post game press conference. I'm sure fans would initially like the fact that he holds guys accountable and all that, but it eventually wears on players.

Oh, and his offensive strategy in Dallas consisted almost entirely of isolation ball. I understand that the people on this board are big fans of that.

McKeyFan
02-09-2010, 08:51 PM
I like it if it's Roy.

d_c
02-09-2010, 08:53 PM
I can go with Avery.

Dallas had no low post threat when they lost to Golden State.

They also had the better team with the league MVP.

McKeyFan
02-09-2010, 08:58 PM
I'd rather have a low post threat.

d_c
02-09-2010, 09:04 PM
I'd rather have a low post threat.

I'd rather have the #1 seed and best roster. Also note that in his last 8 playoff road games, Avery has an 0-8 record.

McKeyFan
02-09-2010, 09:10 PM
Probably similar to Peyton Manning's playoff record.

Hicks
02-09-2010, 09:11 PM
He'd be good at first, but the players will get sick of him before long. No thanks.

Lawrence Frank, please.

MillerTime
02-09-2010, 09:13 PM
Please tell me that this isn't true?!!! Next season, too?!!!

I will burn the remaining season tickets I own and refuse to purchase them next year unless JOB is gone.

Yes its true http://www.indycornrows.com/2009/9/25/1054853/pacers-coach-obrien-earns-contract

His contract has been extended, but will he remain our coach is the question

McKeyFan
02-09-2010, 09:24 PM
I just did a poll to see how many think he'll actually survive his entire contract.

ksuttonjr76
02-09-2010, 09:24 PM
Please tell me that this isn't true?!!! Next season, too?!!!

I will burn the remaining season tickets I own and refuse to purchase them next year unless JOB is gone.

Don't feel bad. I made the same initial mistake. I thought he was only extended for this season.

avoidingtheclowns
02-09-2010, 09:45 PM
I ride with d_c in this thread, which marks the first time in a couple weeks I can't just let Anthem post my thoughts.

Dr. Awesome
02-09-2010, 09:52 PM
JOB will be let go within a week after the season ends. Book it. I dont think theres anyone, including JOB, that doesnt believe that.

I'd hold you to that, but whats the point?

Bird won't fire O'Brien, he's too stubborn.

Anthem
02-09-2010, 10:10 PM
the first time in a couple weeks I can't just let Anthem post my thoughts.
:buddies:

NapTonius Monk
02-09-2010, 10:15 PM
It just blows my mind when people mention that kind of stuff. The league is chalk full of hardworking assistants who have paid their dues, spent countless hours working with players, breaking down film, helping to run practices, going over scouting reports. Those guys deserve a chance.

Oh, but Mark Jackson sounds so articulate on TV and Antonio Davis is just a great guy. Give me a break. It's that exact same logic that the Detroit Lions used to hire Matt Millen as a GM (he had zero previous experience as a coach, scout, executive or player development guy). Those guys have proven nothing in the coaching ranks. It's an insult to the guys who have actually put in the work and gained the experience.

How would you guys feel about Patrick Ewing? He'd be a good mentor for Roy, and he's paying his dues as an assistant.

McKeyFan
02-09-2010, 10:43 PM
How would you guys feel about Patrick Ewing? He'd be a good mentor for Roy, and he's paying his dues as an assistant.

Interesting.

He looks like the Cro-magnum man, and, quite frankly, I tend to think he's not intelligent because of that.

He's probably very smart and might just make a great coach.

Trophy
02-09-2010, 10:44 PM
Lawrence Frank, please.

He'd be the perfect coach for this team. :pray:

Bball
02-09-2010, 11:00 PM
:buddies:

You guys will be installing Ubuntu together in no time!

Hoop
02-09-2010, 11:50 PM
I can't stand Avery Johnson, he's an annoying little twit. I'd take just about anybody over JOB at the moment, but we can and should do better than Avery.

No Mark Jackson either, I'm open to just about anybody else.

graphic-er
02-09-2010, 11:55 PM
I want a coach with a winning record and playoff experience, Avery Johnson fits that to a tee. He knows how to get players to defend as well. That Mavs team that went to the finals was one of the best defensive teams in the league. Before him the Mavs were the GSW warriors on hyper drive under Don Nelson. Also he is a players coach. Which is something this team needs. JOB is not a player's coach. I don't even think the players respect him, and there isn't a leader on the team who can make the players fall in line. When that happens you need a guy the players will work hard for.

Bird should sign him now.

Oh and please no Lawrence Frank, that guy had never coached a 50 win team. Even with Kidd, Jefferson, and Carter in their prime! He could not get a 50 win team, and they only made it to the 2nd round.

Unclebuck
02-10-2010, 12:10 AM
Go back and read the comments from Mavs fans when Avery was let go - they grew to not like him in Dallas and the players were really sick of Avery.

I thought Avery did a nice job myself

PR07
02-10-2010, 12:34 AM
Give me Byron Scott instead.

cdash
02-10-2010, 02:22 AM
I was watching the Avery Jhonson interview on PTI and they asking about how bad he wanted to come back to coaching and he responded by saying that he was ready, that coaching is his passion and is waiting for that phone call, should the pacers fire JOB and give AJ a call. What do you guys think? could he be a good coach for the pacers?

Why do you always spell Johnson that way? Obviously you do it on purpose, did I miss the joke?

sportfireman
02-10-2010, 02:25 AM
Anyone's better than Flim......

Shade
02-10-2010, 11:21 AM
Avery is far from perfect, but he's a significant upgrade over JOB.

Shade
02-10-2010, 11:22 AM
I can't stand Avery Johnson, he's an annoying little twit. I'd take just about anybody over JOB at the moment, but we can and should do better than Avery.

No Mark Jackson either, I'm open to just about anybody else.

Not a fan of PGs-turned-coaches?

Anthem
02-10-2010, 11:56 AM
You guys will be installing Ubuntu together in no time!
Just downloaded the beta of 10.04 yesterday!

ChicagoJ
02-10-2010, 12:05 PM
What we've seen from Avery so far is that he's a one-trick pony.

He took over the team Nellie assembled, screamed at them about being tough and playing defense, then got totally outcoached by Nellie with a team that Nellie didn't really assemble.

I'd rather have Nellie. And relative to Avery, I'd rather be poked in the eye.

(And for the record, Jim is turning into a a kick to the crotch. So I'd rather be poked in the eye if that is my only choice.)

dohman
02-10-2010, 12:13 PM
Lets fire the guy that replaced the guy that replaced the guy that you all are wanting to hire only to hire the guy that was fired and replaced by the guy that we fired to get out current guy.

Wouldnt it of been easier to make a trade :)

wintermute
02-10-2010, 12:49 PM
What we've seen from Avery so far is that he's a one-trick pony.

He took over the team Nellie assembled, screamed at them about being tough and playing defense, then got totally outcoached by Nellie with a team that Nellie didn't really assemble.

I'd rather have Nellie. And relative to Avery, I'd rather be poked in the eye.

(And for the record, Jim is turning into a a kick to the crotch. So I'd rather be poked in the eye if that is my only choice.)

is there a choice that doesn't involve bodily harm? :-p

ChicagoJ
02-10-2010, 01:01 PM
is there a choice that doesn't involve bodily harm? :-p

Byron Scott.

McKeyFan
02-10-2010, 01:02 PM
Byron Scott.

It may require bodily harm to get him here.

JB24
02-10-2010, 01:25 PM
Guys rag on Obie for stifling the young guys (and i don't necessarily disagree), yet we see Byron Scott's name being tossed around.

Oh well.