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1984
02-09-2010, 11:55 AM
We need something to alter the course of this franchise, we will not be major players in free agency in 2011 and are chances of significantly rebuilding through the draft at a perpetual 10 - 13 spot are slim.

WHAT WOULD 2010 LOOK LIKE?

First, 50 - 32. I have been an A.I. (Andre Iguodala) fan for quite sometime. I personally think the Pacers should make a move for A.I.. Andre Iguodala has the ability to attack the basket and play defense. I think he and Danny Granger would create an inside outside match-up nightmare. Imagine having this line up:

STARTING ROSTER

01 - A.J. Price
02 - Andre Iguodola*
03 - Danny Granger
04 - DeMarcus Cousins** / Greg Monroe**
05 - Roy Hibbert

RESERVE ROSTER

06 - Tyler Hansbrough
07 - Earl Watson***
08 - Samuel Dalembert
09 - Brandon Rush (I left him out early, apologies).
10 - Mike Dunleavy
11 - Jeff Foster
12 - Mike Dunleavy
13 - Josh McRoberts/Solmon Jones

* Trade
** Draft
*** Re-signed (Un-restricted free agent)

WHAT WOULD IT INVOLVE

A three way deal involving Cleveland and Philadelphia. The Pacers would send Murphy and Deiner to the Cavilers and receive Ilgauskas. The Pacers would trade the expriring contracts of Ilgauskas and T.J. Ford and the defensive savy D. Jones for Iguodolla and Dalembert.

WHY IT COULD HAPPEN

Because everybody wins. The Cavilers would get Murphy for less, and the 76ers would allow Ilgauskas and Ford's contracts to expire, giving them 20.0 million dollars in cap relief. The addition of Dahntay Jones would give them a solid player for 4 years with a very minimal contract. This would allow the 76ers to pursue Dwayne Wade or Chris Bosh in addition to other free agents.

Meanwhile, the Pacers would be on track for real cap relief in 2011 when Dunleavy and Dalembert's contracts expire.

WHY IT WON'T HAPPEN

Because we aren't that lucky (Not since Artest-Miller-Mercer-Ollie for Rose-Best). Second, this deal is talent-pricey for Philadelphia and completely hinges on the 76ers potential desire to play a major role in the free agent market. It also makes the Pacers 10 million dollars heavier for 1 year, and while it would be worth it in my opinion - there is only so much money the Pacers can afford to spend.

sportfireman
02-09-2010, 12:04 PM
We need something to alter the course of this franchise, we will not be major players in free agency in 2011 and are chances of significantly rebuilding through the draft at a perpetual 10 - 13 spot are slim.

WHAT WOULD 2010 LOOK LIKE?

First, 50 - 32. I have been an A.I. (Andre Iguodala) fan for quite sometime. I personally think the Pacers should make a move for A.I.. Andre Iguodala has the ability to attack the basket and play defense. I think he and Danny Granger would create an inside outside match-up nightmare. Imagine having this line up:

STARTING ROSTER

01 - A.J. Price
02 - Andre Iguodola*
03 - Danny Granger
04 - DeMarcus Cousins** / Greg Monroe**
05 - Roy Hibbert

RESERVE ROSTER

06 - Tyler Hansbrough
07 - Earl Watson***
08 - Samuel Dalembert
09 - Mike Dunleavy
10 - Jeff Foster
11 - Solomon Jones
12 - Second Round Draft Pick
13 - Josh McRoberts

* Trade
** Draft
*** Re-signed (Un-restricted free agent)

WHAT WOULD IT INVOLVE

A three way deal involving Cleveland and Philadelphia. The Pacers would send Murphy and Deiner to the Cavilers and receive Ilgauskas. The Pacers would trade the expriring contracts of Ilgauskas and T.J. Ford and the defensive savy D. Jones for Iguodolla and Dalembert.

WHY IT COULD HAPPEN

Because everybody wins. The Cavilers would get Murphy for less, and the 76ers would allow Ilgauskas and Ford's contracts to expire, giving them 20.0 million dollars in cap relief. The addition of Dahntay Jones would give them a solid player for 4 years with a very minimal contract. This would allow the 76ers to pursue Dwayne Wade or Chris Bosh in addition to other free agents.

Meanwhile, the Pacers would be on track for real cap relief in 2011 when Dunleavy and Dalembert's contracts expire.

WHY IT WON'T HAPPEN

Because we aren't that lucky (Not since Artest-Miller-Mercer-Ollie for Rose-Best). Second, this deal is talent-pricey for Philadelphia and completely hinges on the 76ers potential desire to play a major role in the free agent market. It also makes the Pacers 10 million dollars heavier for 1 year, and while it would be worth it in my opinion - there is only so much money the Pacers can afford to spend.


so where's B.Rush on the roster or trade scenario..........??????

oh and this might get moved with the trade section

travmil
02-09-2010, 12:10 PM
Because we aren't that lucky (Not since Artest-Miller-Mercer-Ollie for Rose-Best).

You have a far different definition of luck than I do. I say the day this franchise traded for Ron Artest was merely the first in a long series of bad decisions that have resulted in being where it is today. Now, getting Granger at 17, that's lucky.

I'd like to get my hands on Iggy too, but I don't know how realistic this scenario is without seeing some actual salary numbers to crunch.

ksuttonjr76
02-09-2010, 12:35 PM
You have a far different definition of luck than I do. I say the day this franchise traded for Ron Artest was merely the first in a long series of bad decisions that have resulted in being where it is today. Now, getting Granger at 17, that's lucky.

I'd like to get my hands on Iggy too, but I don't know how realistic this scenario is without seeing some actual salary numbers to crunch.

No. At the time we got Artest, it was a good trade. Especially considering what type of team we had before the brawl. The team is where it's at, because of the brawl and public demands.

Justin Tyme
02-09-2010, 12:57 PM
Ford isn't an expiring until next season. He's owed 8.5 mil next season.

vnzla81
02-09-2010, 01:02 PM
here is my trade, looks like nobody like it anyway. is pretty close to same thing you have.


http://www.pacersdigest.com/showthread.php?t=50465

travmil
02-09-2010, 01:02 PM
No. At the time we got Artest, it was a good trade. Especially considering what type of team we had before the brawl. The team is where it's at, because of the brawl and public demands.

That's not the way I see it. The two reasons you cite as being the main reasons this team is where it is would never have happened had he not been on this team.

Trophy
02-09-2010, 01:41 PM
He reminds me of Dahntay Jones.

I'd rather get rid of Mike than Dahntay and Troy mainly because it frees us another wingman and we still have another PF.

1984
02-09-2010, 01:47 PM
I don't know how realistic this scenario is without seeing some actual salary numbers to crunch.

According to ESPN's "Trade Machine" it works. Also, ESPN indicates that Ford is in his final year of contract via player option. I would assume that T.J. would opt out of his contract if he is not starting. Also, because of a poor PG free agency class, T.J. is in the top 3 free agent PG's. While he may not attract 8.5 million, he could get something close from a desperate team.

BRushWithDeath
02-09-2010, 02:05 PM
It won't happen, but that team wouldn't win 50.

Thesterovic
02-09-2010, 02:10 PM
If wishes were fishes, we'd be swimming in an ocean.

vnzla81
02-09-2010, 02:11 PM
It won't happen, but that team wouldn't win 50.

with JOB 35 games without him 48 to 50

sportfireman
02-09-2010, 02:13 PM
am i the only one who wants to know where B.Rush is on the roster and the trade scenerio?:-o

vnzla81
02-09-2010, 02:21 PM
am i the only one who wants to know where B.Rush is on the roster and the trade scenerio?:-o

he would have to go, philly would want a young player back

Shade
02-09-2010, 02:26 PM
The Cavs would only trade us Z if we bought him out so they could re-sign him, so we wouldn't be able to bounce him to Philly. And I'm not sure Philly would do that, regardless.

Also, this probably fits best in the Trade Proposals forum.

ksuttonjr76
02-09-2010, 02:42 PM
That's not the way I see it. The two reasons you cite as being the main reasons this team is where it is would never have happened had he not been on this team.

The initial trade made basketball sense...period. Artest was a good up and coming player with great defensive skills and was really cheap. The individual in question made a bad mistake that impacted the team. Nothing more, nothing less. That would be like questioning the Kobe Bryant trade to LA, because of his alleged rape in Colorado. One "crime" was legally more punishable, but the impacts to the team was vastly different.

1984
02-09-2010, 02:49 PM
He reminds me of Dahntay Jones.

I'd rather get rid of Mike than Dahntay and Troy mainly because it frees us another wingman and we still have another PF.

Singing: "Money, Money."

spreedom
02-09-2010, 08:52 PM
According to ESPN's "Trade Machine" it works. Also, ESPN indicates that Ford is in his final year of contract via player option. I would assume that T.J. would opt out of his contract if he is not starting. Also, because of a poor PG free agency class, T.J. is in the top 3 free agent PG's. While he may not attract 8.5 million, he could get something close from a desperate team.


No chance TJ opts out this offseason... sure, he'd love to get some more PT on a regular basis here, but it'll take him 2 or 3 years to recoup that $8.5M because he won't get close to that on the FA market this summer.

DaveP63
02-10-2010, 05:45 PM
If we somehow acquired Andre Iguodola, hell itself would freeze over and then he'd slip and fall and break his shoulder in five places.