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McKeyFan
02-04-2010, 09:00 PM
I will wait to share my opinion, so as not to taint the poll.

IndyHoosier
02-04-2010, 09:06 PM
He has unflattering pictures of Bird and Stacey Paetz together?

Lord Helmet
02-04-2010, 09:09 PM
Quinn rocks! Gotta love him.

He's been loyal to the Pacers and they have been loyal to him.

BlueNGold
02-04-2010, 09:14 PM
I like Quinn better than Denari...but both are several rungs below Kellogg.

Honestly, I hope they have some fans, but I'm not one of them.

Lord Helmet
02-04-2010, 09:17 PM
We have a pretty good cast of TV guys.

Bball
02-04-2010, 09:19 PM
You know... I know I've seen Quinn doing some higher profile work. I think there's a 'comfort' factor he has when doing the Pacers that isn't indicative of what he would do in a different setting.

I'm assuming you'd like him to be more straight laced and take the job more seriously?

I doubt he'd announce NBA or college games the same way on ESPN... or CBS.... or TNT...

So are you about to say he's gotten too comfortable broadcasting Pacer games and needs to remember he is broadcasting a game and not just sitting with some buddies?

I guess I could see that... I don't much care though. I'm glad he can have a good time at a Pacer game. A lot of people can't these days. We have bigger problems than our broadcast teams.

Although it is something different to talk about! :idea:

Hicks
02-04-2010, 09:20 PM
I will wait to share my opinion, so as not to taint the poll.

Pretty sure you're too late for that.

Anyway, I'm in the "I Like Quinn" group. I don't agree with people who think he's terrible, and I'd say at worst he's "okay."

I don't have a laundry list of reasons why I feel that way, but I've obviously watched him hundreds of times and I feel he's a good commentator.

geetee
02-04-2010, 09:22 PM
I love how Quinn gets caught up in the game as a true Pacer fan. His laugh is the best. He's a keeper.

Lord Helmet
02-04-2010, 09:44 PM
I'd be perfectly fine with the people we have for years to come.

WetBob
02-04-2010, 10:02 PM
I voted for the colored commentator angle because I thought it was funny.

vnzla81
02-04-2010, 10:03 PM
because he is good

MLB007
02-04-2010, 10:13 PM
I like him even though he's an iu guy. ;)
His insights are usually accurate (IMO) ;)

gummy
02-04-2010, 10:14 PM
Colored? Is it 1950 again? lol.

Anyway, I pretty much agree with Hicks, especially after hearing all the guys around the league this year. Quinn's just fine with me.

jhondog28
02-04-2010, 10:29 PM
Clark Kellogg is one of the best commentators I have ever heard period. He is always informative , non biased, and always enjoyable to listen too. Buckner just makes me laugh when he starts cracking up on anything. If Murphy takes too many steps to the basket trips over a shoe thrown by a mascot after it riccocheted off of Stacy Paetz the dude would laugh for like 10 minutes.

DaveP63
02-04-2010, 10:30 PM
I like them all. Sometimes Stacey drives me nuts, but she's leaps and bounds better than she used to be.

vnzla81
02-04-2010, 10:32 PM
:drool::drool:
I like them all. Sometimes Stacey drives me nuts, but she's leaps and bounds better than she used to be.

yeah she drives nuts too.............:drool:

ksuttonjr76
02-04-2010, 10:33 PM
I miss something...I like Quinn.

McKeyFan
02-04-2010, 10:36 PM
Pretty sure you're too late for that.


Good memory.

Quinn drives me absolutely nuts.

He talks ad infinitum, and always tries to explain the minutia of every incident. He also claims to know things that are in people's minds but are really unknowable.

Clark Kellogg is super.

I actually like Chris Denari a lot.

And I think Stacy Paetz is pretty sharp too.

I guess this is like favorite movies: everybody has different tastes.

Oh, and I voted "He is close friends with Larry Bird." He is. And I think that's the reason he's still there.

BRushWithDeath
02-04-2010, 10:37 PM
I like Denari and I love Kellogg. I dislike Buckner. I loathe Paetz.

Unclebuck
02-04-2010, 10:49 PM
Quinn for a local guy he's pretty good. comparing him to Kellogg isn't fair. Clark is the number 1 college guy for the network that does the NCAA tournament. I would hope he's a lot better than Quinn. Quinn is entertaining, sometimes funny, sure he butchers the english language at times, but I have no problem with him at all

Smoothdave1
02-04-2010, 11:15 PM
Quinn also serves as Director of Communications for the Pacers (in addition to his TV role) and does a lot of PR efforts for the Pacers.

And yes, he is good friends with Bird (from their years in Boston) and they knew each other when Bird went to IU for a while. But Quinn also worked for ESPN, NBC, CBS, etc. so it's not like he doesn't have experience.

I know we've talked about Quinn, Clark & Stacy, but what about Croshere? It's been nice to see a recent player and his perspective and Austin seems to enjoy the gig.

ChicagoJ
02-04-2010, 11:33 PM
I've never been impressed with Kellogg. Wasn't impressed when he was a player at Ohio State and their over-hyped Kellogg-Williams front court went 9-9 against the Big 10.

Wasn't impressed with him as an NBA player, although you can't fully separate his career from Herb so that probably hurts his reputation in my mind a little bit.

I think he's an average or perhaps below-analyst but will give him credit for being much more articulate than many ex-players so he makes ordinary observations more astute than they actually are.

I think Quinn is much more insightful, but with less polish so it doesn't always work as well. Still, I'd rather hear what Quinn is trying to say than listen to Clark say, "he was in position to grab the rebound" (duh) much more eloquently.

I think Clark should stick with the college game. He at least played one more NCAA tournament game than NBA playoff game so I guess that makes him more of an expert on college ball.

heywoode
02-04-2010, 11:34 PM
Quinn is awesome! Don't have a problem with any of the people who work broadcasts of Pacers games, television or radio. Since I got LP this season, I've had a chance to hear quite a few other teams of broadcasters and I WHOLEHEARTEDLY agree with the notion that we have some of the best in the business all the way around. We are VERY lucky to have the television people we have, and even more lucky to have Mark & Slick. Let's not take them for granted!

It took me a while to get used to Chris Denari, but he has really grown on me and I feel like he is a true professional for making that happen. Seems like a nice guy too.

I love Clark Kellogg, but who doesn't (except for Jay!!)...The guy was on the air with Obama at a Georgetown game not long ago...he took it in stride and totally brought it off. Just a great, great guy and a total natural for the job, college or pro.

Quinn offers a different perspective, that is for sure, but he is still fun to listen to, and brings plenty of his own positives. He definitely roots for the Pacers and gets caught up sometimes, but I like that. He isn't nearly as much of a homer as some other teams' announcers. It could get FAR worse, believe me.

Stacy Paetz wasn't very good when she first started, but she has gotten infinitely better, and is now doing a great job. She seems to have a good rapport with the players and has really worked to polish her game. No complaints at all, and she is also very nice.

Not sure about Cro just yet. I'm glad he is here, and I'm glad he's got the gig. I think he'll grow into it just fine. Also a great guy, and obviously knows what he's talking about. I always look forward to seeing him. I don't get to see him or the rest of the television crew much, because we've been GOING to far more games than I've been watching on TV! It would be awful for that trend to continue...!!

Roaming Gnome
02-04-2010, 11:35 PM
I think the color commentators we have are just fine. I've gotten use to Denari to the point where he's ok, but his style and delivery just isn't my cup of tea.

ChicagoJ
02-04-2010, 11:36 PM
I will wait to share my opinion, so as not to taint the poll.

I think the way you phrased the question ("is still..."), and poll choices, did a more-than-adequate job of tainting the poll.

Naptown_Seth
02-04-2010, 11:36 PM
I'm assuming you'd like him to be more straight laced and take the job more seriously?No. I'd like him to do color work like he knows the team.

I swear he's the classic example of a color guy that seems like he's phoning it in on pre-work and then just making stuff up.


The Lakers game example - when Danny bounced the ball off of Kobe you could see Kobe clearly saying to the ref "how did he get in bounds so fast, there's no way he got both feet in quick enough because I turned right around" (roughly). And replay showed that he had a reason to wonder, it was really close.

So there sits Quinn with TV coverage AND only being about 20 feet from the discussion and he goes on this laughing explanation of how Kobe is confused by what happened and doesn't understand the rule. He just keeps on telling us that Kobe doesn't get it and is asking the ref to explain the ruling.

Kobe, known for being a non-savvy, unaware player. :rolleyes: Kobe obviously knew the rule and just didn't think Danny had pulled it off. Danny had to do a little quick step job just to pull it off and barely did.


That kind of crap just never ceases to annoy the hell out of me. Kellogg NEVER misses that stuff. Clark calls plays before they happen, he knows the game and he knows the Pacers.

Of course he's one of the best which is why CBS has him working so much. He climbed the ladder fairly quickly.

Still Mark and Slick are sincerely miles ahead of Quinn in understanding what's going on during any given game. I hate that I can't get that audio sync'd with the picture. I need audio delay. I need a digital audio stream with delay, or 1070 could just bump in a 5-7 second delay that matched the DirecTV delay (hint hint :D)

jhondog28
02-04-2010, 11:49 PM
I've never been impressed with Kellogg. Wasn't impressed when he was a player at Ohio State and their over-hyped Kellogg-Williams front court went 9-9 against the Big 10.

Wasn't impressed with him as an NBA player, although you can't fully separate his career from Herb so that probably hurts his reputation in my mind a little bit.

I think he's an average or perhaps below-analyst but will give him credit for being much more articulate than many ex-players so he makes ordinary observations more astute than they actually are.

I think Quinn is much more insightful, but with less polish so it doesn't always work as well. Still, I'd rather hear what Quinn is trying to say than listen to Clark say, "he was in position to grab the rebound" (duh) much more eloquently.

I think Clark should stick with the college game. He at least played one more NCAA tournament game than NBA playoff game so I guess that makes him more of an expert on college ball.

I completely disagree. I like Quinn, but Kellogg is much easier on the ears and is speaks to the NBA fan like a teacher. I think he does a great job. To me Buckner is more there for entertainment then anything else. But I still respect your opinion J

McKeyFan
02-05-2010, 12:04 AM
I think the way you phrased the question ("is still..."), and poll choices, did a more-than-adequate job of tainting the poll.

Well, my underhanded taints didn't work. Quinn is winning.

Naptown_Seth
02-05-2010, 12:07 AM
Well, my underhanded taints didn't work. Quinn is winning.
And we are losing.


You know if QB happens to wander into this No Man's Land of harsh criticism that is the innerwebs, I'm not trying to be a douche. Don't get mad, step up your game and get even. I'd love to love you (Donna Summer, look it up kids)

ChicagoJ
02-05-2010, 12:10 AM
I completely disagree. I like Quinn, but Kellogg is much easier on the ears and is speaks to the NBA fan like a teacher. I think he does a great job. To me Buckner is more there for entertainment then anything else. But I still respect your opinion J

I agree. I think he's smooth.

He's teaching a third-grade class and makes it so clear.

Quinn's trying to teach high school sophomores and he's a bit rough/ less polished.

I understand the appeal of Kellogg. I'd just like more substance even if it comes with less polish.

ChicagoJ
02-05-2010, 12:12 AM
Well, my underhanded taints didn't work. Quinn is winning.

I wouldn't have voted and probably would have moved on without comment if you weren't so underhanded about the question.

graphic-er
02-05-2010, 12:21 AM
I like Quinn cause he told Lester Connor to sit down so they can see the game in order to comment on it.

dal9
02-05-2010, 12:28 AM
i get that "colored commentator" is "funny" because he is a "color commentator" and also "black"..but it is fairly offensive, imho.

surprised no one has commented on this aspect of the poll

PaceBalls
02-05-2010, 12:44 AM
Quinn for a local guy he's pretty good. comparing him to Kellogg isn't fair. Clark is the number 1 college guy for the network that does the NCAA tournament. I would hope he's a lot better than Quinn. Quinn is entertaining, sometimes funny, sure he butchers the english language at times, but I have no problem with him at all

He might stutter sometimes, but he has some very good basketball insights. Fair trade off I think.

Pacersfan46
02-05-2010, 12:53 AM
Sometimes I listen to Quinn and I wonder how he ever received a job on TV. I think he's terrible. Always have.

-- Steve --

cdash
02-05-2010, 03:30 AM
Quinn for a local guy he's pretty good. comparing him to Kellogg isn't fair. Clark is the number 1 college guy for the network that does the NCAA tournament. I would hope he's a lot better than Quinn. Quinn is entertaining, sometimes funny, sure he butchers the english language at times, but I have no problem with him at all

They do the same thing, how is comparing them not fair? Just because one of them is a lot better than the other?

I'm not wild about Quinn, but there are far worse evils in the world. Sometimes he gets to talking and I can't really understand him, but he is enthusiastic and his laughing makes me crack a smile.

McKeyFan
02-05-2010, 05:33 AM
I wouldn't have voted and probably would have moved on without comment if you weren't so underhanded about the question.

I like to get everyone involved.

Frostwolf
02-05-2010, 06:55 AM
I hope you mean "color commentator" instead of "colored commentator," as it appears in the poll?

Granville Fleming
02-05-2010, 10:01 AM
I like Quinn, but I think he is GOD-AWFUL as a commentator.

odeez
02-05-2010, 12:02 PM
I like Quinn, he does laugh at things and leave you wondering what he is laughing at? But his tone doesn't bother me. He is a little too positive sometimes though, I like when announcers are honest and can say the truth and not sugar coat things. I know that is not always the PC thing to do.

Clark is the man, he has vast knowledge of the game and always has great observations and insight. I feel like Clark brings an honest approach and doesn't sugar coat his comments and I appreciate that most about him.

Roaming Gnome
02-05-2010, 12:37 PM
i get that "colored commentator" is "funny" because he is a "color commentator" and also "black"..but it is fairly offensive, imho.

surprised no one has commented on this aspect of the poll

I do have a sense of humor, but I can see someone not finding that statement funny at all. Just offensive. I'm editing the poll!

Dr. Awesome
02-05-2010, 01:25 PM
I find Quinn to be pretty annoying sometimes, but I'll say he is very basketball smart. He definitely knows what he's talking about and often calls things before they happen. He also seems like one of the few non-biased team commentators in the NBA.

My favorite commentator has to be Walt Frazier for the Knicks. The guy is so funny, but I'm not sure he's trying to be. He is always using these big words, then trying to rhyme them with something, its kinda hard to explain but very funny. He almost sounds like he's high during the games(not condoning smoking kids!), I don't think he is, I just think its the way he is, but its hilarious either way.

Deadshot
02-05-2010, 01:35 PM
I was under the impression that everyone like Denari for the most part. For those of you who don't like him, did you like Al Albert any better?

Personally, I could only hear the words "Hurricane Harrington" so much.

Unclebuck
02-05-2010, 01:49 PM
I was under the impression that everyone like Denari for the most part. For those of you who don't like him, did you like Al Albert any better?

Personally, I could only hear the words "Hurricane Harrington" so much.

I'm not a huge fan of either for different reasons. Albert just talked way too much and his on air chemistry with kellogg was really bad (it was better with Quinn). He was at times funny and he could be entertaining to a point - good voice though.

Chris is too vanila for me, his voice isn't that great, but he does allow either Quinn or Clark to have room to say something. He's rather boring IMO - doesn't really add anything of note to a telecast, but then again doesn't get annoying either like Al could

Chris seems like a very, very nice guy, Albert seemed like a complete jerk.

Overall they are almost complete opposites of eathother in style, approach almost everything.

Right now I'm satisfied with Chris, and don't want Al back.

Mark Boyle is excellent I mean like Hall of Fame good. and I don't say that just because he frequents this forum.

ChicagoJ
02-05-2010, 05:02 PM
I thought both Al and Denari were boring. I liked Jerry Baker but I thought he was aging quite a bit when they replaced him so I understood it.

I just think they should have put Mark on a simulcast. If the older Callabro brother could do it in Seattle, why couldn't Mark? Anyway, I've said a number of times over the years.

But we've had much worse than either Al or Denari. Some of us remember the Ed Doucette/ Dick Vitale disaster. At least we had a terrible broadcast crew to match the 22-win product on the court. I'm guessing that Doucette and Vitale would have gone 9-9 against all the Big Ten announcers too. So why anybody thought they'd make a good broadcast team at the next level is beyond me.

Deadshot
02-05-2010, 05:49 PM
Mark Boyle is excellent I mean like Hall of Fame good. and I don't say that just because he frequents this forum.

This is one thing I have really missed since moving away from Indiana. I know there are ways I could pull up the audio for the game but getting everything working and synced up every game is just too much hassle.

McKeyFan
02-05-2010, 06:20 PM
I do have a sense of humor, but I can see someone not finding that statement funny at all. Just offensive. I'm editing the poll!

I appreciate the fact you can laugh about it.

I am also fine with you editing it for others' sake. (There may be some rich irony here.)