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Wylder1324
01-28-2010, 12:11 AM
Indiana Gets:
1 - DJ Augustine (Larry Browns Dog House)
2 - Gerald Henderson (See Above)
3 - Diop (could help here on D and doesnt play much there)
4 - Shaq (buyout, or you could swap in Z here and cut out TJ from this deal)

Cleveland Gets:
1 - Troy Murphy
2 - TJ Ford
3 - Solo Jones
4 - Indys 1st 2nd rounder in the upcoming draft

Charlotte Gets:
1 - JJ Hickson
2 - Jeff Foster
3 - Earl Watson


This give us another young PG with tons of potential go along with Price as well as another young wing for the future. Diop would help with the post defense and while he has a 3 year deal, its plenty worth it to pick up the other pieces here.

Cleveland would be absolutely loaded for a championship run with a lineup like this:

PG - Williams, Ford, Gibson
SG - Parker, West, Green
SF - James, Moon, J. Williams
PF - Murphy, Verejao, Powe
C - O'neal, Z, Solo

They do give up Hickson, and although he does have the occasional nice game, he isnt polished enough for a win now scenario, which Cleveland faces with Lebron.

Charlotte really doesnt give up all that much from there rotation to make this happen. Augustine is up and down with Larry Brown, and doesnt really appear to be part of the future there. Henderson almost doesnt play and Ditton for Diop. Foster is a Larry Brown type of player as is Watson. Hickson is a real deal sweetener.

Justin Tyme
01-28-2010, 03:07 PM
Cleveland isn't going to take on 20 mil more salary in 2011.

Cleveland is better off trading directly with the Pacers on a Murphy for Z & 2010 1st deal with the Pacers buying out Z, and then Cleveland re-signing Z 30 days later. They still keep Hickson who they like and is in only his 2nd season who would be the future starting PF after Murphy leaves.

MillerTime
01-29-2010, 11:46 AM
Indiana Gets:
1 - DJ Augustine (Larry Browns Dog House)
2 - Gerald Henderson (See Above)
3 - Diop (could help here on D and doesnt play much there)
4 - Shaq (buyout, or you could swap in Z here and cut out TJ from this deal)

Cleveland Gets:
1 - Troy Murphy
2 - TJ Ford
3 - Solo Jones
4 - Indys 1st 2nd rounder in the upcoming draft

Charlotte Gets:
1 - JJ Hickson
2 - Jeff Foster
3 - Earl Watson


This give us another young PG with tons of potential go along with Price as well as another young wing for the future. Diop would help with the post defense and while he has a 3 year deal, its plenty worth it to pick up the other pieces here.

Cleveland would be absolutely loaded for a championship run with a lineup like this:

PG - Williams, Ford, Gibson
SG - Parker, West, Green
SF - James, Moon, J. Williams
PF - Murphy, Verejao, Powe
C - O'neal, Z, Solo

They do give up Hickson, and although he does have the occasional nice game, he isnt polished enough for a win now scenario, which Cleveland faces with Lebron.

Charlotte really doesnt give up all that much from there rotation to make this happen. Augustine is up and down with Larry Brown, and doesnt really appear to be part of the future there. Henderson almost doesnt play and Ditton for Diop. Foster is a Larry Brown type of player as is Watson. Hickson is a real deal sweetener.

I thought Shaq was getting traded

Wylder1324
01-29-2010, 11:54 AM
Shaq does get traded in this scenario, but just like with all of the "Z" speculation he would be bought out immediately and resign with the Cav's in 30 days.

Solomon Grundy
01-29-2010, 11:09 PM
Charlotte gets totally robbed in this deal. Hickson is nice, but surely the Bobcats would want more for Augustin and Henderson than Earl Watson and Jeff Foster. Then again these are the same people that traded Okafor for Chandler, so who knows...

Wylder1324
02-06-2010, 06:06 PM
Tweaked the deal a bit, this makes it IMO a little more even.

Indiana Gets:
1 - Henderson
2 - Law
3 - Ajinca
4 - Z

Cleveland Gets:
1 - Murphy
2 - Augustine
3 - Head

Charlotte Gets:
1 - Hickson
2 - Watson
3 - Danny Green
4 - Cleveland's 1st rounder

Doddage
02-08-2010, 07:13 PM
Cleveland definitely says no to that one, imo. With the package they're trading (Z + Hickson + Green + 1st), they could probably land Jamison.

Solomon Grundy
02-08-2010, 09:17 PM
Tweaked the deal a bit, this makes it IMO a little more even.

Indiana Gets:
1 - Henderson
2 - Law
3 - Ajinca
4 - Z

Cleveland Gets:
1 - Murphy
2 - Augustine
3 - Head

Charlotte Gets:
1 - Hickson
2 - Watson
3 - Danny Green
4 - Cleveland's 1st rounder

Not a good idea for Cleveland. They lose a lot of size and gain way more small guards than they need. Mo, Delonte, Gibson, Augustin, Head, and even Anthony Parker can all play the point guard position.