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LG33
01-22-2010, 11:28 PM
Rivalry renewed? Either way, Jerebko's my new favorite Piston - in that I hate him already, but in a healthy way.

Luther Head should not have played tonight.

jhondog28
01-22-2010, 11:37 PM
The moral to this story is that the Pacers are bad and the Pistons are worse. The sad thing is that the Pacers have the most talented player in Granger, but overall the Pistons have more talent as a whole. The Pistons team just didnt look like they gave a damn.

MyFavMartin
01-22-2010, 11:38 PM
good thing they went out and got Charlie and Ben...

jhondog28
01-22-2010, 11:40 PM
good thing they went out and got Charlie and Ben...

That brings up a good point...what the hell happened with Charlie V. He was such a big deal in Milwakee but he completely fell off the map.

kester99
01-22-2010, 11:42 PM
I thought the first few minutes of the game were some of the most poorly played I've seen. Fortunately the Pacers woke up. Nice effort by Rush.

I'm not sure we would have got it together against a better opponent, though.

A nice win (or two) against Philly would sure hit the spot.

Anthem
01-22-2010, 11:45 PM
I know, I know, plus-minus is an oversimplified stat.

But holy cow did we outscore them with Roy in the game.

Lance George
01-22-2010, 11:45 PM
Nice to see Brandon Rush looking good on offense.

pwee31
01-22-2010, 11:48 PM
I wish an opposing teams player would make Granger mad EVERY night

LG33
01-22-2010, 11:49 PM
Rush is a friggin' bust.

kester99
01-22-2010, 11:53 PM
Didn't really notice it during the game, but Solomon got a DNP-CD.

Kstat
01-23-2010, 12:15 AM
That brings up a good point...what the hell happened with Charlie V. He was such a big deal in Milwakee but he completely fell off the map.

He's off and on. I think he's an ideal 6th man.

He looked awful tonight, but 2 nights ago against Boston he was nails.

He's been battling plantar facitis all season, which has sapped his quickness. He can still shoot, though.

BTW, I think the piling on of Ben Gordon is a bit ridiculous. He was very, very good before he got hurt. it's real easy to bash him when he's on the inactive list.

Jonathan
01-23-2010, 12:17 AM
Rush is a friggin' bust.


What are you expectations from him? I think if you expect an allstar or a 15-20 pts a night you are setting the bar to high! Brandon is nothing more than a role player like the majority of the league.

Jarred Bayless, the only reason Y our organization traded him is b/c Larry thought he could trade Tinsley and/or Ford and be able to keep Jack. The hand was shown and no other team took the bait. Keep in mind Mc Roberts is still our youngest player and best transition and passing big man and we had JJ for a season. It is not Rush's fault no other team in the league wanted to take on the contracts of Tinsley or Ford.

Only bust so far out of that draft drafted b/f Brandon is Joe Alexander!!

sunsun
01-23-2010, 12:19 AM
Rush scored season high 19 point!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kester99
01-23-2010, 12:19 AM
LG failed to use the green font.

MLB007
01-23-2010, 12:21 AM
He's been battling plantar facitis all season, which has sapped his quickness. He can still shoot, though.



I had that, was a painful mf'er. Amazed that anyone could play the pro game with it. owwwwww.

McKeyFan
01-23-2010, 12:28 AM
Luther Head acted somewhat odd tonight.

I still enjoy watching AJ out there. He has a lot to learn, but his potential seems very high.

Roy with +29.

CableKC
01-23-2010, 12:39 AM
Didn't really notice it during the game, but Solomon got a DNP-CD.
See what I mean? I said this in the other Post-game thread for another game......I wouldn't notice if he was playing or not. He's an acceptable 4th/5th Big Man...but that's about it.

CableKC
01-23-2010, 12:48 AM
We played great for the 1st, 3rd and 4th QTR....but the 2nd QTR....was terrible. I'm guessing that JO'B pulled out the same speech that he used at the end of the last game during half-time just to wake the Team up.

With all due respect to our resident Pistons fan....the Pistons ( for now ) aren't that good. I'm guessing that they ( like us a month ago ) are just hindered by injuries. I really feel bad for Tayshaun and Rip.....if there is anyone that seems to be going through the motions....it's them. They still are the same old Tayhaun and Rip....hit every shot and executing when they're supposed to....but they just seem out of place on the current version of the Pistons.

Shade
01-23-2010, 03:08 AM
I would like us to get a top 3 draft pick.

With that said, I always want to see us beat the Pistons. Especially in the Palace.

IndyProdigy
01-23-2010, 04:29 AM
That brings up a good point...what the hell happened with Charlie V. He was such a big deal in Milwakee but he completely fell off the map.

when was charlie v. ever a big deal?

cinotimz
01-23-2010, 08:26 AM
I would like us to get a top 3 draft pick.

With that said, I always want to see us beat the Pistons. Especially in the Palace.

Agreed. There has never been a time where beating the Pistons has come with so many mixed emotions.

Spirit
01-23-2010, 08:54 AM
What are you expectations from him? I think if you expect an allstar or a 15-20 pts a night you are setting the bar to high! Brandon is nothing more than a role player like the majority of the league.

Jarred Bayless, the only reason Y our organization traded him is b/c Larry thought he could trade Tinsley and/or Ford and be able to keep Jack. The hand was shown and no other team took the bait. Keep in mind Mc Roberts is still our youngest player and best transition and passing big man and we had JJ for a season. It is not Rush's fault no other team in the league wanted to take on the contracts of Tinsley or Ford.

Only bust so far out of that draft drafted b/f Brandon is Joe Alexander!!
He was kidding.

OakMoses
01-23-2010, 09:11 AM
This was a good win. It's nice to kick the Pistons in the mouth.

However, I really hope that O'Brien noticed that it was our 2 PG lineup that was letting the Pistons back in the game. I like both Watson and Price a lot, but asking either of them to guard Stuckey or Hamilton is a little silly.

What strikes me the most about the Pistons right now is that their future core players, as a group, just look ridiculously soft. Gordon is one of the top 10 scorers in the NBA, but doesn't play a lick of defense. Charlie V. is little more than Troy Murphy lite, he's got better lateral quickness, but seems to lack desire to really make an impact other than with his shooting. Austin Daye can really score the ball, but probably gets knocked over by the wind when Ben Wallace runs by.

Jerebko and Summers seem to have some fire in their guts. Summers was especially impressive playing the passing lanes in the 4th quarter.

Roy's getting a little too ambitious with his passing sometimes.

I'm really not sure if Rush or Granger was better last night. They were both very, very good.

jhondog28
01-23-2010, 09:20 AM
when was charlie v. ever a big deal?

I believe that he had a hell of a Sophmore year in Milwakee. I just remember there being a lot of talk when he went to Detroit for some reason.

BlueNGold
01-23-2010, 09:48 AM
However, I really hope that O'Brien noticed that it was our 2 PG lineup that was letting the Pistons back in the game. I like both Watson and Price a lot, but asking either of them to guard Stuckey or Hamilton is a little silly.

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What strikes me the most about the Pistons right now is that their future core players, as a group, just look ridiculously soft.

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I'm really not sure if Rush or Granger was better last night. They were both very, very good.

The first part about playing Price and Watson at the same time was immediately a noticeable failure. Maybe the most frustrating part about the way JOb "manages" the game. McBob could have easily gone in there to help the defense since we had a huge lead...but I guess that makes no sense at all....:rolleyes:

As for the Pistons picking up Gordon and Charlie V, I'm just glad they did it. Doesn't make any sense at all...particularly for the Pistons, a team usually built the right way...with good defenders. Ha, I think they've fallen more than the Pacers thanks to those acquisitions.

As for Rush, he seems to be waking up again...like last year. Let's hope he tears it up the rest of the season. I don't think I've seen him that aggressive before.

LG33
01-23-2010, 11:16 AM
I don't think it was just Price and Watson at the same time that hurt us, I think it was Luther Head and one of the above as well. Richard Hamilton had nine baskets, and I would guess only two or three were when Brandon was on him. He abused Earl and Luther in the post, which is not something a SG should do.

OakMoses
01-23-2010, 01:42 PM
Actually, if you trust the ESPN play-by-play, Watson + Price were only on the court together for the first 5 points of the 13-0 run in the 2nd quarter. Then Rush came in for Price, and we had Watson, Rush, Dunleavy, Granger, Murphy for the next 8 points of it.

The first 5 points were all Hamilton. When Rush came in he stopped scoring. 8 of the next 10 points were on layups by Wallace and Jerebko. It's probably the most fun to blame those points on Murphy and Dunleavy.

gummy
01-23-2010, 02:13 PM
The first 5 points were all Hamilton. When Rush came in he stopped scoring.

I know you're all excited about Rush's increased scoring as of late, but I wanted to emphasis those two lines. Why? Because that sort of thing is normal defensive intensity from Rush.

It still seems as if good defense is undervalued around here (and in the IndyStar or Pacers Facebook comments - forget it, no one even notices the defense at all). His focus and work ethic on that end is what has kept me from being convinced by the argument that he has no "heart" and will never develop confidence in his shot.

Maybe if he scores on a consistent basis Rush will start to get the recognition he deserves on the defensive end....?

BlueNGold
01-23-2010, 06:32 PM
Actually, if you trust the ESPN play-by-play, Watson + Price were only on the court together for the first 5 points of the 13-0 run in the 2nd quarter. Then Rush came in for Price, and we had Watson, Rush, Dunleavy, Granger, Murphy for the next 8 points of it.

The first 5 points were all Hamilton. When Rush came in he stopped scoring. 8 of the next 10 points were on layups by Wallace and Jerebko. It's probably the most fun to blame those points on Murphy and Dunleavy.

The NBA is a game of runs. They started their run when we went small. The other problem is also due to small ball. Layups in the paint against Troy Murphy are to be expected...and when he's the C, the other team is bound to try that.

This is not hard stuff. Just put McBob or Solo in there to contend with people in the paint...and Rush on the perimeter chasing around Hamilton. If you do that, you might stop them.

DaveP63
01-23-2010, 08:10 PM
I know, I know, plus-minus is an oversimplified stat.

But holy cow did we outscore them with Roy in the game.

I though the same thing. Maybe it was an optical illusion.