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esabyrn333
12-29-2009, 01:52 PM
We salary dump and get 2 young guys

They get some vets that can help now and be around next year when Yao gets back....Thoughts




Indiana Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -16.1 ppg, -14.2 rpg, and -5.0 apg.

<TABLE class=breakdowntable width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TH colSpan=2 scope=col>Incoming Players</TH></TR><TR><TD class=photo>http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/McGrady_Tracy_hou.jpg </TD><TD>Tracy McGrady
6-8 SG / SF from Mount Zion Christian Academy (HS)
3.2 ppg, 0.8 rpg, 1.0 apg in 7.6 minutes
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo>http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Dorsey_Joey_hou.jpg </TD><TD class=even>Joey Dorsey
6-9 PF from Memphis
No games yet played in 2009-2010
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo>http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Budinger_Chase_hou.jpg </TD><TD>Chase Budinger
6-7 SF from Arizona
8.2 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 1.2 apg in 18.5 minutes
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class=breakdowntable width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TH colSpan=2 scope=col>Outgoing Players</TH></TR><TR><TD class=photo>http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Murphy_Troy_ind.jpg </TD><TD>Troy Murphy
6-11 PF from Notre Dame
14.2 ppg, 9.4 rpg, 2.1 apg in 31.6 minutes
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo>http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Ford_TJ_ind.jpg </TD><TD class=even>T.J. Ford
5-11 PG from Texas
10.2 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 3.8 apg in 25.4 minutes
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo>http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Foster_Jeff_ind.jpg </TD><TD>Jeff Foster
6-11 C from Southwest Texas State
3.1 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 1.3 apg in 15.8 minutes
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


Houston Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +16.1 ppg, +14.2 rpg, and +5.0 apg.

<TABLE class=breakdowntable width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TH colSpan=2 scope=col>Incoming Players</TH></TR><TR><TD class=photo>http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Murphy_Troy_ind.jpg </TD><TD>Troy Murphy
6-11 PF from Notre Dame
14.2 ppg, 9.4 rpg, 2.1 apg in 31.6 minutes
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo>http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Ford_TJ_ind.jpg </TD><TD class=even>T.J. Ford
5-11 PG from Texas
10.2 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 3.8 apg in 25.4 minutes
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo>http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Foster_Jeff_ind.jpg </TD><TD>Jeff Foster
6-11 C from Southwest Texas State
3.1 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 1.3 apg in 15.8 minutes
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class=breakdowntable width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TH colSpan=2 scope=col>Outgoing Players</TH></TR><TR><TD class=photo>http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/McGrady_Tracy_hou.jpg </TD><TD>Tracy McGrady
6-8 SG / SF from Mount Zion Christian Academy (HS)
3.2 ppg, 0.8 rpg, 1.0 apg in 7.6 minutes
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo>http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Dorsey_Joey_hou.jpg </TD><TD class=even>Joey Dorsey
6-9 PF from Memphis
No games yet played in 2009-2010
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo>http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Budinger_Chase_hou.jpg </TD><TD>Chase Budinger
6-7 SF from Arizona
8.2 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 1.2 apg in 18.5 minutes
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

esabyrn333
12-29-2009, 01:54 PM
we would probably buy out T-Mac

Doddage
12-29-2009, 01:55 PM
I think this would be a solid deal for both us and Houston. Provided that there aren't any more competitive offers out there, this is something Houston should look at. The risk would be minimal since Ford, Murphy, and Foster's contracts expire only a year later than T-Mac's.

Justin Tyme
12-29-2009, 02:19 PM
I believe the Pacers would do it in a heartbeat, but I don't see Houston taking on an extra 26 mil in 2010-2011 to do it. Not to mention they don't need a 8.5 mil B/U PG in Ford with Brooks and Lowry handling the position.

Wylder1324
12-29-2009, 04:45 PM
Not only do they not need a backup like TJ but I dont see them getting rid of Budinger in the deal. Production per $ value hes hard to beat as a 2nd round pick. The only deals I see Houston doing are ones that bring in players that will give them a better shot at contending, without giving up much more than T-Mac. This pretty much narrows it down to teams that are willing to let go of a player who is pretty good, but has a longer contract than they want to pay/and or are going in a different direction.......I think a 3 team deal could work with Houston/Indy/GoldenS though. They have made it public that they want to move Maggette and are willing to part with young talent to do so.....How about something like this:

Houston Gets:
1. Murphy
2. Maggette
3. Luther Head (1 year Deal)
4. Devean George (1 year Deal)
5. Indys 1st 2nd Round Pick 2010

Indiana Gets:
1. Stephen Curry/ or Anthony Randolph
2. Speedy Claxton (1 year deal)
3. Brian Cook (1 year deal)
4. Jermaine Taylor

Goldenstate Gets:
1. T-Mac
2. Houston 1st Round Pick 2010
3. Indiana's last 2nd round pick

This gives us our PG of the future in Curry and 3 scrubs with expiring contracts, while also moving Murphy's big deal off the books. We lose our two 2nd rounders in next years draft, but we really dont need 3 picks in the draft anyway. We arent able to get TJ off the books yet but hopefully we can find a taker for him closer to the deadline, or in the offseason.

For Houston they are making some pretty hefty financial commitments to Troy and Corey, but this really shores up there lack of quality bigs as well as adding another top flight scorer/rebounder to the wing. They give up their first round pick, but by getting our 2nd rounder (which looks to be in the early-mid 30s they arent giving up much their.

Golden State def gets the short end of the stick talent wise. What makes this possible is there willingness to get out from under Maggette's 4 year deal. McGrady's expiring gives them HUGE flexibility in the upcomming free agency crazed off-season. On top of that T-Mac could very well exceed all expectations and if hes even 3/4 of the player he was he gives them a low risk high reward type of player. I would prefer for us to pick up Curry out of this deal, and while its a stretch to do so......there is really no way he fits in to the long term plans there with Monta Ellis. With the way Ellis has been tearing it up this season it would be hard for them to stick with Curry over Monta......They are both to small to coexist as starters. The HUGE amount of cap space this gives them this summer to add to Monta/Randolph/Biedrins nucleus (plus they should have an early-early mid 1st rounder to add to Houston's late mid 1st rounder I think makes this deal worth while for them.

PacersHomer
12-29-2009, 06:26 PM
That would be a good trade. Anything to give the Pacers more cap space.

IUfan4life
12-29-2009, 08:07 PM
we would probably buy out T-Mac

you couldn't be more wrong

esabyrn333
12-29-2009, 09:15 PM
you couldn't be more wrong

Why would you say that. I think the guy would be pissed to get moved here in the first place and I don't see the team wanting that kind of cancer in the locker room.

IUfan4life
12-29-2009, 10:36 PM
Why would you say that. I think the guy would be pissed to get moved here in the first place and I don't see the team wanting that kind of cancer in the locker room.

He hasn't played in like a year, I would think he would be happy just to play. I've never heard anything about him about being a bad teammate. I would also think he'd be happy to play in our offensive system

esabyrn333
12-30-2009, 12:13 AM
He hasn't played in like a year, I would think he would be happy just to play. I've never heard anything about him about being a bad teammate. I would also think he'd be happy to play in our offensive system


If he just wanted to play why is he not playing for the rockets? I don't know much about the guy but I would think he wants to go to a playoff contender. Didn't he pretty much force a trade away from the magic? Even with Dwight Howard asked him to stay. His main reason was he wanted to compete for a tittle. Now he is forcing his way out of Houstan. I'm mean the guy just got Jamaal Tinsleyed. Sent home with pay:eek::eek:

IUfan4life
12-30-2009, 01:14 AM
If he just wanted to play why is he not playing for the rockets? I don't know much about the guy but I would think he wants to go to a playoff contender. Didn't he pretty much force a trade away from the magic? Even with Dwight Howard asked him to stay. His main reason was he wanted to compete for a tittle. Now he is forcing his way out of Houstan. I'm mean the guy just got Jamaal Tinsleyed. Sent home with pay:eek::eek:

you are way off here. he was gone way before dwight, and he asked for more playing time and was denied and told to go home.

esabyrn333
12-30-2009, 11:46 AM
you are way off here. he was gone way before dwight, and he asked for more playing time and was denied and told to go home.

He was traded the same year Dwight was drafted. Win they drafted Dwight, he reached out too Tracy and asked him to stay. Tracy wanted out because he said that Orlando couldn't win and wasn't trying to build a winning team around him.

I'm a ESPN Radion Junkie. For many years now, I don't get to see alot of games but listen to espn radio alot.

If you believe all that happened was Tracy asked for more playing time so they sent him home....Well I just don't know what to say about that....


As for the trade I would say we could sub. Dunleavy for TJ and replace there other 2 guys for Brian Cook. We still get major cap relief..

tikitomoka
12-30-2009, 10:32 PM
houston has already said landry and budinger arent going anywhere