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J-Wont
07-11-2004, 12:45 AM
What's everyone expectations for Jonathan Bender?
Do you expect him to get the same amount of minutes Al got last year? And if so, how do you expect his production to compare to Al's?
Do you think he can stay healthy for the full year?
What would it take for you to consider Bender as having a breakout year?
Please discuss and post stat predictions if you want.

birdman
07-11-2004, 12:50 AM
If Bender can stay healthy all year I think he can have a breakout year. He will have his chance this year to prove himself this season. I expect JB to average 12-15 ppg this season.

J-Wont
07-11-2004, 01:01 AM
Hmm...this is tough...I'm trying to figure out Benders scoring and rest of the teams scoring but its going way too high.
O'Neal - 20
Artest - 18
Jackson - 15
Bender - 12
Reggie - 8
Fred Jones - 7
Foster - 6
Rest - 9
total - 95 ppg

Bender - 27 mpg, 12 ppg, 5 rpg, 2 apg, 2 bpg
He'll be our 6th man and will put up numbers very similar to Al.

scar
07-11-2004, 01:04 AM
Bender is already the Pacers most explosive offensive player. For awhile he averaged a point per minute. But he is very inconsistant and Its hard to predict when he is going to show up. Somedays he is brilliant, other days he looks lost. I also get very annoyed with how easily Bender manages to get injured. If he doesn't cut it, we can always fall back on Croshere and James Jones to produce.

Pig Nash
07-11-2004, 01:33 AM
Dear RC,

please teach Freddie to play the point. I would be happy beyond my wildest dreams if our lineup next year was

Foster/Harrison
JO/Croshere
Artest/Bender
Jackson/Reggie
Tinsley/Freddie

:pray:

ChicagoJ
07-11-2004, 01:48 AM
I expect that Bender will beat out Stephen Jackson for a starting spot, possibly moving Artest to the backcourt.

:shrug:

Then he'll get hurt, as always. :mad:

Snickers
07-11-2004, 01:55 AM
Bender will have a breakout year!!!
Y'all are gonna see it this year!" 25 ppg 15 rpg 5 bpg ALL STAR BABY!!!

.... Honestly, I think if healthy, he can be our sixth man, providing an offensive spark off the bench, kinda like Al, but with more drives to the rim and fewer fadeaways. 10-15 points, 4-6 boards, a couple blocks.

scar
07-11-2004, 03:10 AM
I think Bender could possibly be better than Harrington. I know alot of analysts love to draw comparisons to Tracy McGrady. Saying Bender is a taller more athletic version. He is also a more inconsistant, injury prown, version. I guess Walsh/Bird/Carlisle see something in him. So I'd love to see him break out next season.

ABADays
07-11-2004, 10:53 AM
I have no expectations for Bender this year - ZERO, NADA! In fact, I think Harrison will have more impact this year than Bender.

wintermute
07-11-2004, 01:02 PM
bender will have sky high expectations, as always.

the difference this year is that he will have a definite role to fill - harrington's former 6th man role. i believe that he will get first shot at it, with cro as the backup plan.

clownskull
07-12-2004, 01:47 AM
these expectations are a crapshoot but i will give it a shot.
i see him playing about 26 min. a game
i see him scoring about 10-12 a game
i see him average about .74 assists per game (there's the breakout over the .4 in seasons past )

he gets about 5 rebs per game this upcoming year
add a couple of blocks too.
then i see him go up for a block in mid december and hurt his hand and back to the injured list again.

Hicks
07-12-2004, 01:52 AM
I can't honestly expect him to do very well, but I wouldn't be surprised either. It all comes down to his health first, IQ second.

Kegboy
07-12-2004, 08:47 AM
I don't think his Bball-IQ is an issue anymore, at least not a prohibitive one. If he's healthy, he's gonna bring it. Al averaged 13 and 6 last year, and I can see JB getting that. Well, maybe 4-5 boards, but more blocks.

Suaveness
07-12-2004, 10:39 AM
I don't think his Bball-IQ is an issue anymore, at least not a prohibitive one. If he's healthy, he's gonna bring it. Al averaged 13 and 6 last year, and I can see JB getting that. Well, maybe 4-5 boards, but more blocks.

Are you kidding? Did you see what he DID in the Detroit series? I seriously doubt that his IQ isn't a problem. The man is just dumb. He looks so lost out there.

Unclebuck
07-12-2004, 11:58 AM
I think Bender could possibly be better than Harrington. I know alot of analysts love to draw comparisons to Tracy McGrady. Saying Bender is a taller more athletic version. He is also a more inconsistant, injury prown, version. I guess Walsh/Bird/Carlisle see something in him. So I'd love to see him break out next season.


Saturday night this very question was asked. Who is going to be better Al or Jon. I think we voted, but I cannot remember the vote.

I expect Bender to be the 3rd or 4th leading scorer on the team right there with Jackson

Dukins
07-12-2004, 12:48 PM
I agree with you suave. Bender's IQ is like a box of rocks. I swear the highschool let him get through because of his bball skills. I can only hope for the best since he is on our team.

12 pts 5 reb 1block


He will undoubtedly get hurt. When and how is the only questions?:rolleyes:

waxman
07-12-2004, 01:12 PM
He had the dear in headlights look against detroit...but he was pretty effective in the previous series....

I see his court awareness getting better.... just him making some decent passes off his hard drives was encourging..... I see him developing a mid-range game....something between the 3pointers and banzai drives to bucket.

I can see him playing between 25-30 minutes a night getting between 12-15 pts... 5-6 bds, 2 blks, 2 assts and playing in 70+ games.....:laugh:...or so.

Bball
07-12-2004, 01:51 PM
I expect Bender will get some minutes to see how he does in various situations. These will be more than token appearences initially. He'll have a good half here or there. Some teams will adjust and shut him down and take him out of the game mentally (and/or physically) and they can go back to their primary focus because once Bender's head is out of the game he will be lost for the game. His defense will be sketchy on his primary man but he will get some blocks.

He'll get to the basket a few times causing us to wonder how he did that in only a step or two... some of those times he will 'finish' but he will have more than a few where he doesn't 'finish'. And a few turnovers there as well.

He will look in tune for segments of games but at other times and other games he will have the 'deer in the headlights' look.

And he will spend some time with the trainer due to injuries. More than other players.

IOW... I expect Bender's season to go a lot like Bender's career. To -expect- anything more is foolish after all this time. To HOPE for more is different.

-Bball

bapspacers4life
07-12-2004, 01:58 PM
go bender do ur stuff if not trade bait :dance::idea:

efx
07-12-2004, 02:29 PM
I have no expectations for him anymore. It's the same story every year, and yeah, I know it's not always his fault.

But all in all, he has to actually prove it this time in order for me to believe it.

Kegboy
07-12-2004, 02:51 PM
He had the dear in headlights look against detroit...but he was pretty effective in the previous series....

Agreed. It's a learning process in the playoffs, and that was the first time he'd been in such a situation. It's not like he was Al coming up short year after year.

Lord Helmet
07-13-2004, 02:43 AM
He will have 12-15ppg 3-5rpg 2-3apg.

Jose Slaughter
07-13-2004, 03:57 AM
I think Jackson will get the backup SF minutes & Jones will get more time.

Bender is out of the rotataion.

RWB
07-13-2004, 08:32 AM
Bender is out of the rotataion.

Bad Jose, bad dog. :mad:;)

Lets just say my hero, my pal Jon Bender will either be 6th man of the year, or biggest bust of the year. I'm hoping for the former but just in case he's been practicing driving a school bus.

Slick Pinkham
07-13-2004, 08:39 AM
I think Jackson will get the backup SF minutes & Jones will get more time.

Bender is out of the rotataion.

There is certainly a minutes crunch, still.

Al's playing time at PF is up fro grabs-- Bender, Croshere, JO less at 5 with more Harrison, Croshere, or Polland (just kidding there)

But much of Al's SF time involved Ron sliding over to the 2, and that will be less since S-Jack, Reg, and Freddie should take all of the SG minutes.

Slick Pinkham
07-13-2004, 08:48 AM
If we are still going to use the MLE, I'd use it to offer Stromile Swift.

Now THERE is a backup PF. The backup PG uncertainty would persist, though.

Memphis would most likely match an offer for Swift, too.

MSA2CF
07-13-2004, 09:32 AM
The Difference will be in the running, and perhaps may win, the NBA MIP Award. Coach will no longer yell 'flame on' when he is to come into the game. He will surprise many.