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Kstat
07-10-2004, 11:18 PM
......via David Aldrege's report. The Pistons are also close to re-signing Rasheed Wallace.

The reported McDyess contract is 5 years, $30 million.

Hey, if the Pistons doctors say he is back to full health, I'll take their word.

McDyess's talent and desire has NEVER been a question. Its always been his health.

IMO its abig risk/reward signing.

Young
07-10-2004, 11:22 PM
Didn't the Pistons doctors say Grant Hill was ok to play years ago???

That didn't turn out so good for Grant.

Why are the Pistons signing him to 5 years?

He'll just get injured again. Replacing Okur wouldn't have to be this pricey, Okur never played anyway.

Arcadian
07-10-2004, 11:22 PM
It's a good signing. If can come back to half of what he was he'll be a steal and better than Okur.

While I don't want the Pistons to get better it's hard to root against McDyess

indytoad
07-10-2004, 11:23 PM
Pacers replace their third-best player with Stephen Jackson, Pistons replace an 8th man with Antonio McDyess. DW just can't keep up with Joe D.

IndyToad
Look at his adorable little feet

Kstat
07-10-2004, 11:26 PM
Didn't the Pistons doctors say Grant Hill was ok to play years ago???

That didn't turn out so good for Grant.

Why are the Pistons signing him to 5 years?

He'll just get injured again. Replacing Okur wouldn't have to be this pricey, Okur never played anyway.


Actually, our doctors didnt. The Pistons have the best training/medical staff in the NBA. ORLANDO's doctors did give the ok, and their doctors are retards. Grant tried to hire out team physican to go with him to orlando, but he declined. Had he gone with him, i think grants rehab would have gone so much better.

BTW, Antonio McDyess could be either the biggest bargain or the biggest bust in Free AGency this year. He's WAY more talented than his contract, but thats only if he keeps his *** out of crutches.

By replacing Okur, I mean that Dyce will be our 3rd big man to team with WallaceX2.

Young
07-10-2004, 11:29 PM
Didn't the Pistons doctors say Grant Hill was ok to play years ago???

That didn't turn out so good for Grant.

Why are the Pistons signing him to 5 years?

He'll just get injured again. Replacing Okur wouldn't have to be this pricey, Okur never played anyway.


Actually, our doctors didnt. The Pistons have the best training/medical staff in the NBA. ORLANDO's doctors did give the ok, and their doctors are retards. Grant tried to hire out team physican to go with him to orlando, but he declined. Had he gone with him, i think grants rehab would have gone so much better.

BTW, Antonio McDyess could be either the biggest bargain or the biggest bust in Free AGency this year. He's WAY more talented than his contract, but thats only if he keeps his *** out of crutches.

By replacing Okur, I mean that Dyce will be our 3rd big man to team with WallaceX2.

I see.

I hope it works out well.

But I thought that in the playoffs, years ago, that the Pistons doctors okayed Grant Hill to play??? Doesn't matter that much though.

zxc
07-10-2004, 11:57 PM
I got no real comments on the McDyess thing, alright signing I guess. But..


The Pistons have the best training/medical staff in the NBA.

..:rolleyes: Is there anything the Pistons don't have the best of in your eyes? Truley the greatest franchise in the history of the NBA..

Kstat
07-11-2004, 12:00 AM
I got no real comments on the McDyess thing, alright signing I guess. But..


The Pistons have the best training/medical staff in the NBA.

..:rolleyes: Is there anything the Pistons don't have the best of in your eyes? Truley the greatest franchise in the history of the NBA..


So why is it the pistons never (knock on wood) have serious injuries? I mean NEVER. There have been countless people that have come away from the orgainization healthier than they have been in year because the Pistons staff notices physical issues that others dont.

And no, we arent the greatest franchise in history......just in 1989, 1990, and oh, 2004 too :p

dipperdunk
07-11-2004, 12:01 AM
The main problem I see with McDyess is that his game was dependent almost exclusively on his explosiveness. He never had a great jumper or post moves but what made him a terrific player was his quickness, getting out in transition and his great explosiveness under the basket beating slower big men. That was a serious knee injury and I don't think he will ever be close to the same player he used to be. That would be a long term deal I would avoid.

J-Wont
07-11-2004, 12:03 AM
Actually Pacers trainer David Craig is considered the best in the biz. I'm sure Detroit is a distant 2nd though.

J-Wont
07-11-2004, 12:04 AM
Actually Pacers trainer David Craig is considered the best in the biz. I'm sure Detroit is a distant 2nd though.

Kstat
07-11-2004, 12:06 AM
After watching Theo Ratliff spring back from basically the same thing, Im a little more encouraged. Ratliff was injured forever, and he still has that same spring he used to. He had the same injury rep 2 years ago Dyce has now.

And its not his athletic ability that intrests me most, its his strength and attitude. The Man punishes people as the rim, he bangs inside and gets to the line.

His jumper, while not really great, isnt broke either. He has range to about 14 feet.

Yeah, I could be wrong. But I think there's also reason to beleive Im right.

zxc
07-11-2004, 12:15 AM
I thought Ratliff had wrist and hip injuries or something not knee.

dipperdunk
07-11-2004, 12:23 AM
Kstat, I was thinking of Theo as well. But they had two different injuries. Theo broke his wrist when the 76ers traded him and in Atlanta he had a freaky muscle tear in the hip area that was difficult for the doctors to diagnose.

McDyess had a blown out knee and when he returned to the Knicks he broke his kneecap in the same knee. That is painful just mentioning it. I would compare him to Jerry Rice who blew out his knee and the 1st game back he played on Monday night he broke his kneecap in the same knee just like McDyess. Rice has returned and had good seasons but hes never had the same explosiveness hes been able to use his great hands and running patterns to perfection to remain a good receiver. McDyess will have to make the same type of transition to depend less on his athleticism. If he can make that transition then maybe he can be effective again just in a different role like you mentioned as a banger etc.,, off the bench. So time will tell but I hope McDyess can come back because he is a good guy and it was sad what happened to him.

J-Wont
07-11-2004, 12:24 AM
And its not his athletic ability that intrests me most, its his strength and attitude. The Man punishes people as the rim, he bangs inside and gets to the line.
His jumper, while not really great, isnt broke either. He has range to about 14 feet.
Yeah, I could be wrong. But I think there's also reason to beleive Im right.

6.9 6.1 0.6 :rolleyes:
$30,000,000. 5 years. :o

Kstat
07-11-2004, 01:05 AM
The deal is actually for 4 years and 23 million, with the 5th year coming ONLY if McDyess stays healthy.

sweabs
07-11-2004, 01:08 AM
Hey, if KStat is happy with a McDyess signing so be it!

However, I don't know if I would be...he will never be the same McDyess. He is a lot slower, older, and injury-prone. Good luck!

PacerMan
07-11-2004, 01:12 AM
You should try posting this on a PISTONS board, where someone cares. :laugh:

Young
07-11-2004, 01:17 AM
The deal is actually for 4 years and 23 million, with the 5th year coming ONLY if McDyess stays healthy.

Thats better.

Kstat
07-11-2004, 01:26 AM
You should try posting this on a PISTONS board, where someone cares. :laugh:

You should try showing some respect for other on this board, son.

And Im not going anywhere, so get used to me:laugh:

Kstat
07-11-2004, 01:29 AM
Hey, if KStat is happy with a McDyess signing so be it!

However, I don't know if I would be...he will never be the same McDyess. He is a lot slower, older, and injury-prone. Good luck!
Well, he's the same age (29) as Ben and Rasheed. Not really OLD.

As far as how he is physically, none of us really know yet. Last year he was shaking off 3 years of rust and you could just see it. How much his last injury has affected his game, we wont know till preseason.

You have to at least assume the Pistons worked him out before they signed him. I'll take their word for now.

Fool
07-11-2004, 01:38 AM
You should try posting this on a PISTONS board, where someone cares. :laugh:

Yeah, next time Kstat replace this thread about something actually happening in the NBA with one or a hundred threads dreaming of how to trade half the Pacers roster for any superstar not already on the Pacer roster.

This could be another Corliss Williamson signing. McD will be making pretty close to what Billups, Ben Wallace, and Rip make. The Pistons have the money now and it does fill the whole if Mc D pans out. Such a long contract could hamstring them down the line but with so many of their starters locked up for a good while it won't break the franchise even if Mc D fails. I suppose I would rather the Pistons have taken this risk then signed a player of lesser ability and hoped that he could fill the whole enough.

Oh, and arguing about which teams trainers are better is the silliest thing ever. I am sure each team's trainers have people that praise them as the best in the league (except perhaps for L.A. and Orlando who both have recently been criticized for miss-diagnosing key player injuries).

Kegboy
07-11-2004, 12:17 PM
I love it when the newbies get mad at Kstat for the first time. :laugh:

So, here's my question, WHAT ABOUT DARKO???

Hicks
07-11-2004, 12:29 PM
Yeah, if this doesn't say the Pistons know Darko isn't going to do anything....

Kstat
07-11-2004, 05:15 PM
Yeah, if this doesn't say the Pistons know Darko isn't going to do anything....

.......yeah, that we dont have enough confidence in a 19-year old being our first big off the bench means weve given up on him....:o

Darko will probably get the spot minutes that Bender got this year.

Hicks
07-11-2004, 05:19 PM
You told us last year he'd be a producer by the end of the season. Now he's relegated to Bender North.

Natston
07-11-2004, 05:23 PM
You told us last year he'd be a producer by the end of the season. Now he's relegated to Bender North.

You have to remember that he was under the delusion that Brown plays rookies... :laugh:

Kstat
07-11-2004, 05:24 PM
You told us last year he'd be a producer by the end of the season. Now he's relegated to Bender North.

I told you I thought hed get MINUTES at the end of the serson. Clearly, I was wrong.

However its basically insane to give up on a 19 year old kid with Darko's skill level. He's got the same issues as Bender right now: he's incredible in practice but he doesnt show it on the floor.

Frankly, I think darko feels insulted by garbage time so he doesnt even try. The kid's got an ego the size of nebraska. His two best stints this year came in the only two games that werent already OVER by the time he checked in.

Hicks
07-11-2004, 05:32 PM
You gave McDyess 4 years. That's 4 years with Darko not getting solid playing time. Looks to me the team doesn't expect him to play for a long time.

able
07-11-2004, 05:37 PM
uhh Kstat? when did you guys give us Darko? just after we finally got rid of PB ?

oh well another project :D





:stupid:

Kstat
07-11-2004, 05:45 PM
You gave McDyess 4 years. That's 4 years with Darko not getting solid playing time. Looks to me the team doesn't expect him to play for a long time.

That doesnt mean we cant trade guys to make room for him. If Darko develops later on, he'll take McDyess's spot. Seems pretty cut and dry to me. Dyce wasnt going to sign a 2-year deal, nor would any other respectable big man.