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duke dynamite
06-08-2009, 12:35 PM
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This is more commentary than anything...

Today on The Dan Dakich show, Jarrett Jack called in from working out at Georgia Tech.

Dan went on to tell him that because he was working out and not at a casino (Like Travis), this is why he is our starting point guard. It is really good that the players get along so well, and can give each other a hard time. That really shows that things have turned around in the locker room.

Now onto the serious stuff...

Jack was asked if he'd like to return to the Pacers next season, and Jarrett replied,

"I owe it to the Pacers...they gave me a change where in other places I didn't get an opportunity."

Jack went on to say that he has a tough "contract battle" starting July 1st. In my mind I really don't want to see or hear the words battle and contract in the same sentence, especially from a player.

So in this sense I am glad he wants to remain a Pacer. Jack arguably was one of the hardest working guys we had on the floor last year outside of Granger.

Shade
06-08-2009, 12:44 PM
I hope we re-sign him, but if we draft a PG it likely means either Jack or Ford won't be a Pacer for much longer.

Speed
06-08-2009, 12:49 PM
Ha, I just heard the tail end of the interview, thank you for posting this. Great interview, makes me really really really want to sign him back, long term. The guy's a worker and whatever his potential is, I really think he'll reach it. I can't say enough how he comes across with toughness and as a leader. I'd compare his demeanor to Chauncey Billups.

I'd overpay some after hearing Jack talking about fullfilling a promise to his mother about finishing college (16 credit hours left) and the fact that he was IN the weight room during the interview. BTW sounds like in July he's having a B ball camp at Brebeuf.

This guy's a natural leader and a really hard worker. I think he's not afraid to get after guys and I think he's not afraid of hard work, well grounded. That goes a really long way in my book.

I'd lock him up, starting point guard or not, I think he's a very important piece of the puzzle now, honestly.

Sorry to gush over one partial interview, but I was, obviously, very impressed.

Tom White
06-08-2009, 12:50 PM
Jack went on to say that he has a tough "contract battle" starting July 1st. In my mind I really don't want to see or hear the words battle and contract in the same sentence, especially from a player.

I sort of doubt he meant it in terms of he and the Pacers "declaring war" over his contract. It is likely just a figure of speech, to him.

Shade
06-08-2009, 12:51 PM
I've always liked Jack. In fact, after the Bayless trade, the one positive thing I said was "well, at least we got Jarrett Jack."

duke dynamite
06-08-2009, 12:57 PM
I sort of doubt he meant it in terms of he and the Pacers "declaring war" over his contract. It is likely just a figure of speech, to him.
I understand that, but in an interview, it can be perceived by the public that this could be an arduous process. It's just I would've rather have him use the word "negotiations".

duke dynamite
06-08-2009, 12:58 PM
I hope we re-sign him, but if we draft a PG it likely means either Jack or Ford won't be a Pacer for much longer.
See, how I feel is that as I know from the coaching staff is that they love Ford. They see him in a long-term role. I just hope they realize that Jack is one of those players that is worth hanging onto until his skills diminish.

Shade
06-08-2009, 01:00 PM
See, how I feel is that as I know from the coaching staff is that they love Ford. They see him in a long-term role. I just hope they realize that Jack is one of those players that is worth hanging onto until his skills diminish.

Well, I guess I could see us re-signing Jack and using him primarily at the 2 while we bring along a rookie PG. But we really need to upgrade the 4 spot this summer, or it'll be another long season next year.

duke dynamite
06-08-2009, 01:03 PM
Well, I guess I could see us re-signing Jack and using him primarily at the 2 while we bring along a rookie PG. But we really need to upgrade the 4 spot this summer, or it'll be another long season next year.
Well, what I should've said is that I disagree with the hype that the staff has for Ford in his second year. I think what we saw this season is what we're going to get with him. Adapting to our starting role and with JOB sounds a lot like Tinsley 2.0.

"He is good, but not good enough YET to fit our coach's system, but most likely next year."

I like our chances with Jack. Like the Williams wagon, we need a Jack Mobile. Shade, are you with me?

Major Cold
06-08-2009, 02:18 PM
I think the staff is pumping Ford up because they might trade him, or they know for certain that he is part of the team. Jack has uncertainty to his role with the Pacers. I don't think the staff is choosing Ford over Jack.

I like Jack, but he is not a starting PG for a playoff team. He is a good combo guard when under control, but he is not quick enough for many of the PGs out there.

Naptown_Seth
06-08-2009, 02:29 PM
I'd compare his demeanor to Chauncey Billups.
I agree. Talent level, no, but overall type of player, yes. He's driven. He makes lots of mistakes, but it's not from lack of desire to avoid them.


As for the draft, there are a lot more TJ Ford replacements that the Pacers could draft than there are JJack replacements, so we'll see on that one. TJ works pretty well in the 6th man role and it would be nice to see him accept 30 mpg in that role regardless. I just don't think he's going to do that and I don't think he works as the starter with his own scoring demands.

I mean this is why Detlef was so great as a 6th man in Indy. Scoring punch just when your main scorers need some relief. I wish more guys recognized how critical that role is. I think a great 6th man is a bigger NBA star (esp if he wins the award) than a pretty good starter is.

Anthem
06-08-2009, 03:32 PM
Today on The Dan Dakich show, Jarrett Jack called in from working out at Georgia Tech.
You mean he's not working out at Conseco?

:lynchmob:

:mob:

Anthem
06-08-2009, 03:36 PM
I agree. Talent level, no, but overall type of player, yes.
When Detroit first signed Chauncey to the MLE I thought they'd wasted $5mil.

Some guys bloom late.

Anthem
06-08-2009, 03:38 PM
See, how I feel is that as I know from the coaching staff is that they love Ford. They see him in a long-term role.
I hope not. I'm tired of players who are physically outmatched every game we play.

duke dynamite
06-08-2009, 03:55 PM
You mean he's not working out at Conseco?

:lynchmob:

:mob:
I think he's finishing out his degree, too.

Los Angeles
06-08-2009, 04:20 PM
Jack's one good year will result in a good sized contract, make no mistake.

There's a name for that.

(Oops, I promised myself I wouldn't bring that up again.)

Trophy
06-08-2009, 04:24 PM
Jarrett Jack is the better PG for us than T.J. Ford.

I don't see him going else where.
He'll re-sign no doubt. With Bird saying he's looking to resign him and Jack saying he wants to stay here I don't see anything happening to Jack.

pianoman
06-08-2009, 04:39 PM
Hopefully he gets about a 4 year contract that increases every year, that way it gives us some room to work with this summer, and when the huge contracts of Dun, Troy, and Tinsleberry all end, we will have plenty of cap space!

DrBadd01
06-08-2009, 04:58 PM
Having Jack back would be awesome. When he was traded here for Bayless I wanted to keep Bayless, but Jack has been one of the better players in that deal. I wonder if we resign him will affect who we pick at 13.

Peck
06-08-2009, 05:14 PM
I know I am the only person who feels this way but as long as O'Brien is the coach here I would prefer that Jack move on.

He plays him way to many min. for the production we get. I like Jack and all but I do NOT want him stifiling the development of other players because O'Brien refuses to set him down for more than 9 min. a game.

Wage
06-08-2009, 06:10 PM
I know I am the only person who feels this way but as long as O'Brien is the coach here I would prefer that Jack move on.

He plays him way to many min. for the production we get. I like Jack and all but I do NOT want him stifiling the development of other players because O'Brien refuses to set him down for more than 9 min. a game.

You are not the only one.

idioteque
06-08-2009, 06:13 PM
I know I am the only person who feels this way but as long as O'Brien is the coach here I would prefer that Jack move on.

He plays him way to many min. for the production we get. I like Jack and all but I do NOT want him stifiling the development of other players because O'Brien refuses to set him down for more than 9 min. a game.

That's not entirely fair. Who did we have this year, other than Rush (who I think got good PT for a rookie), in the backcourt that we were trying to develop? Deiner? T.J. Ford is often a walking turnover out there and Jack is sometimes all we've got.

PG could be our a big problem for us next year if Jack is not resigned and Ford gets hurt for a long period of time (which is always possible). Who are we going to have, Deiner and some rookie? It could get ugly.

Our chances of making the playoffs seem a lot better to me if Jack is on this roster.

Naptown_Seth
06-08-2009, 06:45 PM
You mean he's not working out at Conseco?

:lynchmob:

:mob:
That's quality.

Worse yet, he's ALSO IN GEORGIA. Holy freaking crap can we get our PGs to stop going down to Georgia.

Wait a second here, I think we got a parody song on our hands. :dance:

Hicks
06-08-2009, 06:49 PM
If Rush is deserving to play, and also if Dunleavy returns, Jack will not play 40 minutes.

Naptown_Seth
06-08-2009, 06:52 PM
I think he's finishing out his degree, too.
Dude, humor.

Come on!



And yes, he's doing the last 16 hours of a business degree which isn't shabby from Ga Tech. I forget which player he was ripping on but it was about how whatever college he goes to offers classes in stuff like golf or swimming.



PECK - I think you need to consider one thing, how the season ended. After the blow up when Jack moved to starting PG and Ford instead was the "combo scoring guard off the bench" the team flowed better and both guys fit their roles better. Jack's not an ace starting PG, sure, but I can see him as a BJ Armstrong level if the stars are at other positions.

There are many ways to skin a cat. The key is do the pieces mesh. Early on the double (or triple) PG thing was not working and not playing Rush wasn't helping either. Once JOB let Rush play and Rush started finding his shot things changed.

I think they might yet try to move Ford, but if not I can see how things would be decent with JOB and Jack both here.



HICKS - good luck on that Dunleavy dream. I'll take no joy in "I told you sos". Okay, maybe a little, but that's all part of being Most Offensive Poster 2009 (I took my own vote and won, 1-0)

Doddage
06-08-2009, 07:09 PM
Jack, to me, is an ideal player to have on a team. He's consistently healthy and comes prepared to play in whatever role he's assigned to. This was proven this past season when he got starts at the point and the 2, and played remarkably well in both situations. He was/is also an adept sixth man. To me, this is his best suited role since he's quite versatile in that he can handle the ball, distribute to others, and provide a nice scoring punch. I hope we can find ourselves a legitimate starting point guard because Jack will be a very nice asset to have at that point.

Trophy
06-08-2009, 08:12 PM
If Rush is deserving to play, and also if Dunleavy returns, Jack will not play 40 minutes.

When Dun returns, we're gonna have a pretty strong bench with Rush, Foster, our draft pick, maybe a free agent signed, and Travis probably coming back.

Like you said with Jack's minutes they'll probably use him less but keep him as a starter. I wouldn't see a huge drop in his minutes.

Smoothdave1
06-08-2009, 09:03 PM
Pretty good interview with Jack. Seems like he wants to come back to Indy and play for the Pacers. I really think the Pacers do want him back. Sounds like he is well liked as we heard the interview from a few weeks ago that Danny has been in touch with Jack over the summer as well.

Also pretty cool to hear he is taking classes this summer and working out. After his next contract, Jack will probably never have to work again, so his willingness to go back and earn his degree shows his character.

In case anyone wants to hear the podcast, I included the link below:

http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DanDakichShow/~3/UcGcI10V7T4/06_08_09_jack.MP3

Major Cold
06-08-2009, 09:24 PM
Did we ever have a time that Daniels, good Rush, and Dunleavy were available? two-thirds of those players?

Until we have two other SGs how do we know how many minuetes Jack will play?

Trophy
06-08-2009, 09:32 PM
Did we ever have a time that Daniels, good Rush, and Dunleavy were available? two-thirds of those players?

Until we have two other SGs how do we know how many minuetes Jack will play?

When Dunleavy returns I don't see any reason to play Jack at SG.

Again I wouldn't expect his minutes to drop too much with his return because he's our PG and Dunleavy is our SG.

Major Cold
06-08-2009, 09:45 PM
So you want Jack to be our PG for all but 9 minutes? Our TOs are going to increase.

So you would rather have Dunleavy starting than Rush? Our defense is never going to get better.

ChicagoJ
06-08-2009, 10:04 PM
Huh? Rush is our SG and will be for the next decade. By the time Dunleavy comes back, he will be a luxury that we may not be able to afford.

Anthem
06-08-2009, 11:52 PM
I think they might yet try to move Ford
We can hope.

pacergod2
06-09-2009, 03:24 PM
Yeah completely agreed. Jack should be starting with Rush. Period. If we could somehow land Brandon Bass... ok I will stop with that dream.

Our second unit would consist of Ford, Dun (when healthy), Murphy, and Foster. That is a spectacular second unit IMO. They all can score, except Foster and he provides solid defense in backup minutes. If each of those players plays about 20 minutes a game (while their contracts expire), depending on matchups and foul status, we should be a very good team.