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SoupIsGood
07-05-2004, 05:42 PM
If Bender or Freddie played starter minute next year, and improved by the exact amount that they had the previous year, here's what there stat lines would be:

Freddie- 12.5 PPG 6.7 APG 1.55 SPG 3.37 RPG .6 BPG .420 FG% .320 3P%

Bender - 24.5 PPG 1.15 APG 1.05 SPG 5.55 RPG 1.5 BPG .503 FG% .460 3P%

I know that these will probably never happen, but it kinda makes you think, doesn't it? Does anyone here think either of these players could perform at that level?

I think Fredie possibly could.

MSA2CF
07-05-2004, 05:57 PM
I think Bender could...He's able to put up a point per minute so if he plays about 25 minutes, there's your 25 points. He's tall enough to get the rebounds and has the length to block a lot of shot. His % may seem too high, but his stroke is so great, he could do it.

I don't think Fred could achieve that many assists or those rebounds.

recap
07-05-2004, 06:40 PM
Those stats are mainly agianst other teams second units, so I would say they are definitely on the high side. I do think that if he's healthy and playing 25-30 minutes per game Bender could put up better numbers than Harrington has been putting up as the sixth man. Of course, who knows if he can actually stay healthy.

Bball
07-05-2004, 07:57 PM
Why do we even play the games? Let's just project all the stats, and project the Pacers as the winners of the next 10 championships? :D

-Bball

beast23
07-05-2004, 08:29 PM
I think you can forget about starters minutes (I presume 30+) for either player.

But I don think Freddie is capable of delivering 10 points in 20 minutes per game. I think his FG% and 3FG% might be higer than projected, but I think his APG will be much lower.

But Bender. Using the old expressions, I think frogs will fly and monkeys will come out of my butt before Bender averages anywhere near 20 points per game, even with starter's minutes. To do so would imply that he is the #1 option on offense. That just ain't going to happen.

MSA2CF
07-05-2004, 08:53 PM
But Bender. Using the old expressions, I think frogs will fly and monkeys will come out of my butt before Bender averages anywhere near 20 points per game, even with starter's minutes. To do so would imply that he is the #1 option on offense. That just ain't going to happen.

Why do you think he has to be the #1 option in order to get 20 ppg? Sam Cassell avg 19.8 ppg this year, and he certainly wasn't the #1 option on his team. BTW, Ron avg 18.3 ppg this year, and he was the #2 option. I think JB could realistically put up 20 ppg.

beast23
07-06-2004, 01:05 AM
Sam Cassell doesn't play for the Pacers, either.

Our offense is geared toward Jermaine O'Neal. JO will get more shots than the #2 and #3 options.

If either of Ron or Al is here next season, I'd bet my house that the one who is here will get more shots than Bender. And if both are gone, then the major player that they were used to acquire will get more shots than Bender.

Even if Bender had a major breakout year, he would be no better than the number 3 option in the offense.

How many #3 options / #3 scorers in this league average anywhere near 20 points per game?

Bender couldn't average 20 points per game for the Pacers, even in his best wet dream.

Lord Helmet
07-06-2004, 01:46 AM
I could see Fred turning into a pretty good jump shooter with time.He did show us that in the ECFs in game 5 or 4 late in the 4th when no one was hitting anything.He was finding his shoot and making them.

Anthem
07-06-2004, 01:47 AM
Am I the only one that noticed that Bender would have ONE assist to go with his 25 ppg? If he was completely healthy, he might assist on 90 field goals ALL YEAR LONG.

Who was that Yinka Dare guy?

TheSauceMaster
07-06-2004, 06:37 AM
Why do we even play the games? Let's just project all the stats, and project the Pacers as the winners of the next 10 championships? :D

-Bball

:deadhorse::evillaugh::buddies:

ABADays
07-06-2004, 08:39 AM
Did it project how many games Bender would sit due to injury?

Suaveness
07-06-2004, 10:26 AM
I can...I'd say about 60-65

Oh, and then not to mention the last 20 or so games of the season everyone is going to be raving about how great he is going to be. :rolleyes:

Unclebuck
07-06-2004, 10:52 AM
This thread demonstrates why stats mean very little

MSA2CF
07-06-2004, 11:07 AM
Sam Cassell doesn't play for the Pacers, either.
I don't understand this comment. :confused:


Our offense is geared toward Jermaine O'Neal. JO will get more shots than the #2 and #3 options.
Hence, he is called the #1 option.


Even if Bender had a major breakout year, he would be no better than the number 3 option in the offense.
I agree, but I do think Bender has the (P-word) to avg 20+ ppg.


How many #3 options / #3 scorers in this league average anywhere near 20 points per game?
Three, but it matters what your definition of "close" is.


Bender couldn't average 20 points per game for the Pacers, even in his best wet dream.

Here's where I disagree with you. You say he "could not," whereas I believe he could if the opportunity were available.

Unclebuck
07-06-2004, 11:43 AM
I believe Bender could average 20 points per game for the Pacers.

Roy Munson
07-06-2004, 12:41 PM
I believe Bender could average 20 points per game for the Pacers.

The only 20 Bender is going to average is "20 games per season".

clownskull
07-06-2004, 07:58 PM
[quote=Roy]
yep, that's probably the biggest obstacle when it comes to j.b. he missed 2/3 of this past season and about half of the year before. i am becoming more of the pessimist when it comes to j.b.
and when i saw the projected stats thing i saw the 1 assist thing and thought wow, he really knows how to distribute the ball well.

SoupIsGood
07-06-2004, 08:38 PM
Jermaine only averaged 1.2 assists during the playoffs, and 2 during the season.

Hicks
07-06-2004, 10:05 PM
The hell happened with kingfrog's post? Am I the only one that sees it looking really weird?

SoupIsGood
07-06-2004, 10:15 PM
Me and :dance: Mr. Frog :dance: each have 44 posts. :dance:

Edit - Yeah his post is really weird lookin'. He misplaced his self-quote.

clownskull
07-07-2004, 02:48 AM
yeh, my computer froze up on me. can't really explain it.