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Peck
06-04-2009, 05:26 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4231628&campaign=rss&source=NBAHeadlines

WTH??? Did we even know that there was a problem?

Pacers
06-04-2009, 05:30 PM
Sounds like it was just one of those things that was an injury he'd had for awhile, but was never serious enough to go onto the shelf for. But since he's already on the shelf, might as well get everything taken care of at once.

Lord Helmet
06-04-2009, 05:37 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4231628&campaign=rss&source=NBAHeadlines

WTH??? Did we even know that there was a problem?
I dont think so.

I hope this doesn't morph into JO injury-status.

Lord Helmet
06-04-2009, 05:37 PM
Sounds like it was just one of those things that was an injury he'd had for awhile, but was never serious enough to go onto the shelf for. But since he's already on the shelf, might as well get everything taken care of at once.
Hopefully.

rexnom
06-04-2009, 05:39 PM
Boy should we have traded him last summer.

jhondog28
06-04-2009, 05:48 PM
Yea cause he has been a complete bust for the Pacers? (sarcasm) I mean come on the guy had value but he also has been a driving force in getting the organization into what at one point was the laughing stock of the NBA with the criminals and trouble the players had been getting into. Dun has done nothing but bring dignity back to what once was a very troubled team. Sorry I just get tired of hearing the same "what have you done for me lately guys" It is always the same tired "should have traded him response"

duke dynamite
06-04-2009, 06:18 PM
I got an e-mail about that. Odd.

Kemo
06-04-2009, 06:34 PM
When , not if , Dunleavy Jr. comes back , he WILL be a crucial piece to this team..


People are very quick to forget that in the 07/08 season Mike played the best basketball of his career thus far..
And if you remember, offensively , he and Granger were pretty much neck-and-neck untill the beginning of this season when Dunleavy went to the injured list, and Danny raised his game to a whole new level as the season went on without Dun ..

Also Dunleavy's team defense at that time, was on par with Danny's .. not so much the one on one though of course, (duh) ..lol .. but Dun is definitely adequate and serviceable defensively to get the job done within the team defensive schemes..
He is a VERY smart player that makes everyone better around him when he is on the court .

Once he comes back , he and Rush will be one HELL of a sg combo , no matter who starts or finishes ..

What I like about Dun's b-ball IQ , is the fact that he thinks and plays like a point , being able to make the nice passes and facilitate plays to other people when needed .. And he is very smart without the ball as well..

I can't wait till we have him back full-time ... When we do, by that time , we will be a very dangerous team in the East offensively ..A team that all the big dogs will dread playing ... a'la the Bostons , the Cavs etc .... If we can only get that "1 piece" to bring our defense together , then we will be able to possibly be a contender ..

Trophy
06-04-2009, 06:38 PM
Wow. It all comes down to this. I sure hope he'll be his old self again later on next season.

SoupIsGood
06-04-2009, 11:42 PM
he also has been a driving force in getting the organization into what at one point was the laughing stock of the NBA

I love what Dun gives us when healthy, but the guy had one good season on a 36-win team. Let's not overvalue him. He hasn't been the "driving force" of much of anything, really. Trading him last offseason would have been sweet—and, considering he plays the same position as our best player, the kind of obvious move, even back then. Too bad.

MillerTime
06-05-2009, 02:44 AM
Wow I never knew his hip was an issue. But since hes out and resting regardless because of his knee, he might as well get this minor hip operation and have his hip recover with his knee. Though I am sure that his hip will recover before his knee, I dont think it'll be much of an issue.

Overall, it was better to have done this surgery now and have Dunleavy back with a healthy hip and knee. I would much rather have that than have Dunleavy finally return from his knee injury and then have his hip injury bother him also.

Get Well Soon Dun

Unclebuck
06-05-2009, 08:10 AM
Lebron had offseason surgery also - maybe the cavs should trade him too

Brad8888
06-05-2009, 11:00 AM
Lebron had offseason surgery also - maybe the cavs should trade him too

Yeah, maybe they should have traded him the summer after they got blown out in the Finals. His value hasn't gotten any higher since, and it is tough to justify those dollars in today's economy.

Oh, of course he adds a few wins here and there during the regular season, makes a nice play here and there that gets on TV sometimes, but the fact that without him Cleveland would not likely win 35 games shouldn't justify his bloated contract. His contract probably makes him untradeable, though.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

SoupIsGood
06-05-2009, 11:56 AM
Yeah, maybe they should have traded him the summer after they got blown out in the Finals. His value hasn't gotten any higher since, and it is tough to justify those dollars in today's economy.

Oh, of course he adds a few wins here and there during the regular season, makes a nice play here and there that gets on TV sometimes, but the fact that without him Cleveland would not likely win 35 games shouldn't justify his bloated contract. His contract probably makes him untradeable, though.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
:rolleyes:

jhondog28
06-05-2009, 12:50 PM
Yeah, maybe they should have traded him the summer after they got blown out in the Finals. His value hasn't gotten any higher since, and it is tough to justify those dollars in today's economy.

Oh, of course he adds a few wins here and there during the regular season, makes a nice play here and there that gets on TV sometimes, but the fact that without him Cleveland would not likely win 35 games shouldn't justify his bloated contract. His contract probably makes him untradeable, though.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I am hoping this was sarcasm, because I cannot believe you would ever say lebron is untradeable. He brings what every owner would ever want. Marketability, TV exposure and wins. Believe me when I say owners would trade almost anyone to have lebron and that means both D Howard and Kobe.

spazzxb
06-05-2009, 02:51 PM
some people need the sarcasm detectors operated on.

Anthem
06-05-2009, 02:53 PM
I am hoping this was sarcasm
The row of smileys is often a good indicator of sarcasm.

duke dynamite
06-05-2009, 03:03 PM
Yeah, maybe they should have traded him the summer after they got blown out in the Finals. His value hasn't gotten any higher since, and it is tough to justify those dollars in today's economy.

Oh, of course he adds a few wins here and there during the regular season, makes a nice play here and there that gets on TV sometimes, but the fact that without him Cleveland would not likely win 35 games shouldn't justify his bloated contract. His contract probably makes him untradeable, though.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


I am hoping this was sarcasm, because I cannot believe you would ever say lebron is untradeable. He brings what every owner would ever want. Marketability, TV exposure and wins. Believe me when I say owners would trade almost anyone to have lebron and that means both D Howard and Kobe.

/sarcasm

jhondog28
06-05-2009, 03:04 PM
That was a lot of effort to show sarcasm. I will go home and have the detectors checked out. thanks for the tip.

Anthem
06-05-2009, 04:49 PM
I will go home and have the detectors checked out.
They're probably fine, they just get gunked up in a sarcasm-heavy environment. A 50-50 mix of vinegar and water will clean them right out.

count55
06-05-2009, 05:03 PM
They're probably fine, they just get gunked up in a sarcasm-heavy environment. A 50-50 mix of vinegar and water will clean them right out.

Any particular kind of vinegar better than another? I would think a balsamic or red wine might stain.

OTD
06-05-2009, 05:25 PM
Lebron had offseason surgery also - maybe the cavs should trade him too

UB that was funny

Naptown_Seth
06-05-2009, 08:19 PM
Yea cause he has been a complete bust for the Pacers? (sarcasm) I mean come on the guy had value but he also has been a driving force in getting the organization into what at one point was the laughing stock of the NBA with the criminals and trouble the players had been getting into. Dun has done nothing but bring dignity back to what once was a very troubled team. Sorry I just get tired of hearing the same "what have you done for me lately guys" It is always the same tired "should have traded him response"
1 good year and that didn't even involve defense.

You don't get to have bad YEARS, then have 1 good one, and then go into an injury black hole all season carrying into the summer and get a safety card on the reverse "what have you done for me lately".


They needed to move him last year regardless, simply due to the team's makeup. Look at what they did without him this year. Now pretend they got just about anything marginally helpful for him last summer. That's gotta count for 3-4 wins I'd think.


I like Dun as a person, but as a player it's been mostly a wreck. He's fun on offense but way overrated around here even in that respect. Dude would have monster 2 quarters and then totally disappear, and this happened a lot.

I would love to love his game, but it's gotta earn it and so far it hasn't. He's nice, but he's not turning team's around up to this point. Even in his good year the team stunk, so I'm not really sure what you think he actually did for the franchise at this point.

Naptown_Seth
06-05-2009, 08:25 PM
BTW, Brad's sarcasm is saying what I'm saying, don't even dare put Dun on the same plate as Lebron, and not just because of raw talent.

James has led WINNING TEAMS. How many Dun teams have made the playoffs? Danny Granger has seen more playoff seasons than Dunleavy has.

James has yet to miss an entire year (virtually, his return sucked) like Dun just did.

James has yet to come close to the trading block, let alone for Al/Jack when paired with Troy.


So in Dun's case even if he'd been healthy this year they still should have traded him. The fact that he made keeping him so horribly painful only piles onto that fact.

Dun may someday lead the Pacers someplace and you can all say "see, we told you". The problem is that I'm not talking about the FUTURE, I'm talking about the PAST, the past that people have skewed into some great Pacers career (or total career).

jhondog28
06-05-2009, 08:47 PM
What player was available that would have made a trade with Indiana plausible. Everyone is saying they should have traded Dun last year, but I would hope you would get something decent in return. I have a gut feeling you would have been satisfied with a draft pick, which I find as a terrible trade. Lets face it Dun is not going anywhere and was not going anywhere back then when he was the best player Indiana had during the 07-08 season.

Anthem
06-05-2009, 10:41 PM
They needed to move him last year regardless, simply due to the team's makeup.
You know I was with you on that, man, but at this point it's water under the bridge. He's simply untradable on his current contract... he'll be a Pacer until his contract is up. Between the salary and the injury, there's no way on earth another team will touch him. So at this point you (and this is a generic you, not YOU Nappy) move on from talking about trading him and start trying to figure out if there's any way to get value out of him for the Pacers.

I still don't think he's a good fit on the floor with Granger... never did. Ideally, he's your sixth man and backs up both wing positions. I'd be thrilled if Rush could really come in and lock down the starting 2 spot early, because once Dun comes back Jimmy's going to be tempted to give him all the minutes the docs will allow.

At the same time, I like him tons as a person and want to like him as a player, and I hope he comes back blowing people out of the water. I just don't have a lot of good memories about Pacers coming back from surgery, and given last year's on-again-off-again six-month saga it's hard for me to be optimistic, even when reports are that he's progressing nicely.

Dr. Goldfoot
06-05-2009, 11:15 PM
He's too expensive to be a bench player. He also needs to be on the floor to be effective on the offensive side. It's not like he's a matchup beast on O or D, so I don't think that's the answer either. He had a career year with the Pacers but I'm not even sure he'll get the chance to prove it wasn't a fluke. He'll either flame out due to injuries or get lost in a rotation featuring two future cornerstones....or both. I've been wrong before.....

Kemo
06-06-2009, 05:23 PM
I love what Dun gives us when healthy, but the guy had one good season on a 36-win team. Let's not overvalue him.

As was Granger .. I am not "overvaluing" Dun ..If he stays healthy ..He's a very very valuable piece to this future Pacers team .. bar-none

d_c
06-06-2009, 05:32 PM
As was Granger .. I am not "overvaluing" Dun ..If he stays healthy ..He's a very very valuable piece to this future Pacers team .. bar-none

Granger has had two consecutive strong seasons. This past year, Granger was an all-star as determined by the coaches. He played for a less than average team, but it was clear his performance warranted such recognition.

He's also seriously being considered for the US National Team. Dunleavy isn't getting that kind of consideration anytime soon and never has.

2minutes twowa
06-06-2009, 05:39 PM
Sounds like it was just one of those things that was an injury he'd had for awhile, but was never serious enough to go onto the shelf for. But since he's already on the shelf, might as well get everything taken care of at once.

Exactly. "Hey, while your under the hood, would you mind re-gapping the spark plugs and topping off the fluid?" Kinda like if I was having my appendix taken out and asked if they could go ahead and remove the spare tire while they were in there;)

imawhat
06-06-2009, 06:51 PM
I just don't have a lot of good memories about Pacers coming back from surgery, and given last year's on-again-off-again six-month saga it's hard for me to be optimistic, even when reports are that he's progressing nicely.

The first thing that came to mind was Antonio Davis-Herniated Disc ('94-'95, i think). After his surgery, he came back fine AND slightly improved his free throw shooting while out.

Also, Dale Davis and his multiple shoulder surgeries. I'm not sure if they really affected his career, but he certainly had his best seasons post surgery.

I understand why there's negativity surrounding Dun's surgery especially considering they were hip and knee (btw, let's not compare LeBron's jaw surgery to Mike's knee/hip; everyone knows which 2 of the 3 are crucial to a player's ability to get up/down the court), but it's not uncommon for players to have minor scopes in the offseason. The hip doesn't concern me (yet).

At best, I think we'll see a more consistent version of the hot Dunleavy. At worst, he'll never play again. Imo, his game has never been reliant on athleticism so if he's able to run without pain, I think he'll be fine.

Anthem
06-08-2009, 03:16 PM
Dun's knee blog posted today... nothing much to say, but he did mention the hip.

http://my.nba.com/thread.jspa?threadID=5800026667


And now, I just had my left hip operated on. I hope my ailments aren't contagious.

I began feeling pain and stiffness at the end of the 2007-08 season. I had some stuff in there that we thought we could work out but were unable to. It was a relatively minor procedure but it is still surgery and I am really sore. Surgery is now up there on my most hated list along with pennies, metal bats and warm tomatoes. I despise them.

The operation was done in Boston by Dr. Joe McCarthy. He is one of the top hip specialists in the country and the team urged me to see him since we couldn't get the discomfort in my hip to completely go away. Not only was he the right guy but it was the perfect time to squeeze this in with my knee doing as well as it is. It shouldn't have any negative impact on my knee rehab and my eventual return to action.
So this has been in discussions for over a year, but we didn't hear about it until after it happened.