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Major Cold
05-18-2009, 11:02 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Missing-Bill-Walton?urn=nba,163159

By Kelly Dywer
yahoosports.com


So, yes, it's a tired, well-worn refrain. Get well soon, Bill.
(But, seriously, we mean it this time. Get back behind that mic. The game, as great as it is, isn't the same without you.)


Some crazy Bill Walton quotes

"You talk about Shaq as a ballerina, what a pirouette from <st1:city><st1:place>Yao</st1:place></st1:city>!"
-- Bill Walton, as Ming twists in the lane. 2.11.2004


"You look at Vladimir Radmanovic, this guy is cut from stone. As if Michelangelo was reading and a lightening bolt flashed before him."
-- Bill Walton, 2.8.2004


"Stroke it, big man!"
--Bill Walton, referring to Arvydas Sabonis as he nails a jumper. 4.13.2003



"He had everything, he had... a doll."
-- Bill Walton, on Penny Hardaways fall from prominence 1.21.2004



"He even flew in his hairdresser, Celeste, so not only does Jermaine ONeal look pretty, hes looking to play pretty tonight."
-- Bill Walton, after Jermaine ONeal hits a jumper 1.23.2004

mildlysane
05-18-2009, 11:06 AM
no.

Shade
05-18-2009, 11:09 AM
HELL NO.

naptownmenace
05-18-2009, 11:19 AM
Not one bit. The game is better without him and his hyperbolic jib.

Roaming Gnome
05-18-2009, 11:26 AM
I never understood the hatred for for him. Maybe too many took him WAY too seriously. I found him pretty entertaining in a "doofus" sort of way more then anything else. My absolute favorite Walton moments came from when he did the color for the Clippers telecast back in the mid 90's. Him and Ralph Lawler were comedy gold because the Clippers were so bad, so cheap, and I don't think Walton cared what he said on the air about the Clippers back then.

Do I miss him? Not really. Honestly, I didn't even notice his absence this year. I didn't get that, somethings missing vibe for the playoffs. I think his schtick is played out and it was probably time he was put to pasture.

Unclebuck
05-18-2009, 11:28 AM
NO, I can put up with a lot of stuff, if they also teach me a little about what is going on. I use Hubie Brown as an example - he is my all time favorite commedator in any sport, but as he has gotten older, he has slipped a bit, maybe used certain phrases over and over again, talks too much - however, that doesn't bother me at all because he still teaches me about what is going on. I learn a little bit everytime I listen to him. Walton doesn't teach me anything - so his act get old.

Edit - let me say though, I enjoyed Bill on the Clippers broadcast - but not the national NBA games.

Jonathan
05-18-2009, 11:47 AM
Bill Walton is decent at color. I enjoyed him when he criticized his son Luke. He was calling him by his last name "Walton" what is he thinking with that pass. He also scores points for using the phrase Balderdash. He does have "man crushes" on certain star players.

CableKC
05-18-2009, 11:49 AM
No.....I don't miss Walton's "clinging to the jock of Kobe and Lebron while talking down to every other Team in the League" commentary during NBA Games.

Tom White
05-18-2009, 11:50 AM
No!

As a matter of fact, I think someone should put Walton and Dick Vitale on an island by themselves so they could just talk to each other and not do any further auditory damage to the rest of the world.

On another point, how in the world did Vitale get chosen as the Grand Marshall for the 500 parade? Next year it will probably be Billy Mays! Just awful.

ABADays
05-18-2009, 11:51 AM
Not at all.

CableKC
05-18-2009, 11:52 AM
NO, I can put up with a lot of stuff, if they also teach me a little about what is going on. I use Hubie Brown as an example - he is my all time favorite commedator in any sport, but as he has gotten older, he has slipped a bit, maybe used certain phrases over and over again, talks too much - however, that doesn't bother me at all because he still teaches me about what is going on. I learn a little bit everytime I listen to him. Walton doesn't teach me anything - so his act get old..
+1 for what you said about Hubie Brown ( the guy knows his basketball and actually adds something substantive whenever he talks about what Players should and should not be doing )

+1 for what you said about Walton

Kid Minneapolis
05-18-2009, 12:16 PM
Listening to Walton isn't the most educational experience... that said, I always chuckle at the things he says. I don't know if I'm laughing with him or at him... probly a little of both.

At least he's colorful in his commentary. Some of those guys might teach you something but they suck in their delivery.

Besides, I work my *** off all day long, when I sit down to watch basketball, it's to shut the brain off and relax, I don't necessarily care how informative a guy is. I actually find more value in absurd commentary with a zany delivery than some boring guy monotonously rehashing x's and o's....

ChicagoJ
05-18-2009, 12:25 PM
You people seem to have misplaced your "sense of humor" meters.

Hicks
05-18-2009, 12:44 PM
A little bit.

Since86
05-18-2009, 12:48 PM
Besides, I work my *** off all day long, when I sit down to watch basketball, it's to shut the brain off and relax, I don't necessarily care how informative a guy is. I actually find more value in absurd commentary with a zany delivery than some boring guy monotonously rehashing x's and o's....

It's probably been years since I've learned something from basketball announcers. They say the same things every game. Sometimes I feel like I'm listening to the Mr. Obvious show from Bob and Tom.

(Okay, the LA Houston game gave me a good "I can't believe he just said that" moment when Mark said that Brooks should learn not to pass the ball to RonRon in the current situation, because it was as good as a turnover.)


I used to HATE listening to Walton. Then after listening to him throughout the internation tournament two years ago(the one before the Olympics) he grew on me. I started being able to laugh at him, instead of being annoyed at what he was saying.

Yes, I do miss him. But he's not great by any stretch of the word. Personally, I don't understand why anyone thinks any basketball commentator is good, because they all say the same things over and over game after game. Hubie hasn't said anything new in 5years. It's not informative to someone that watches games consistantly. Some random fan that just tunes in now and again might have some knowledge dropped on them, but he's boring to me.

UB, I would honestly like you to keep a log of what you learn when you listen to Hubie next year. I think you'll be surprised when you go a long streak without writing anything down. I imagine you look back at the games he calls with a positive memory, because you like him, not at what he actually said. As much as you've been around the NBA, I'm amazed that you say he teaches you something every time.

PacerDude
05-18-2009, 12:53 PM
Do you miss Bill Walton? Like a boil on the crack of my ***.

JayRedd
05-18-2009, 12:54 PM
Incredibly.

Bill Walton is a gem of a human being and the only thing that exceeds my sadness about him not being around during the NBA Playoffs is my sadness about his impaired health.

Get well, Big Fella.

Unclebuck
05-18-2009, 01:03 PM
UB, I would honestly like you to keep a log of what you learn when you listen to Hubie next year. I think you'll be surprised when you go a long streak without writing anything down. I imagine you look back at the games he calls with a positive memory, because you like him, not at what he actually said. As much as you've been around the NBA, I'm amazed that you say he teaches you something every time.

Maybe "teach" isn't the correct term. I used it because I figured it would make my point most effectively. He sees things that I don't see - he explains what is going on in a way that I just don't see it like he does. he sees things as a coach - I've never been a coach - I watch as a fan - so I don't need another fan trying tell me what is going on. I want an expert who can articulate it. Bottom line when I see/hear Hubie doing a game, I get excited because I know he makes watching the game for me more enjoyable.

And while Reggie might say so and so makes a nice pass to the big guy for a layup - Hubie will explain why it was a good pass - how the set play produced the pass, what the defense needs to do to cut that off. I see Reggie Miller on one end of the spectrum and Hubie on the other - Reggie is probably a more fun guy to hang out with, but on TV he says nothing worthwhile.

Since86 - I could probably make a list of 20-25 things that I have truly learned from Hubie - most I learned from him probably 10-15 years ago -

Los Angeles
05-18-2009, 01:04 PM
I didn't know he was sick.

Los Angeles
05-18-2009, 01:06 PM
It's probably been years since I've learned something from basketball announcers. They say the same things every game.

"[Insert best player's name] needs to step it up in the second half if they want to come back."

That's an information gold mine every time I hear it.

Major Cold
05-18-2009, 01:12 PM
Incredibly.

Bill Walton is a gem of a human being and the only thing that exceeds my sadness about him not being around during the NBA Playoffs is my sadness about his impaired health.

Get well, Big Fella.
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No Bill Walton you have it all!!!!

ChicagoJ
05-18-2009, 01:18 PM
Personally, I don't understand why anyone thinks any basketball commentator is good, because they all say the same things over and over game after game. Hubie hasn't said anything new in 5years. It's not informative to someone that watches games consistantly. Some random fan that just tunes in now and again might have some knowledge dropped on them, but he's boring to me.

Walton says outrageous things in order to not be that "boring" commentator you desscribe. I always thought the Tom Hammons, Snapper Jones and Walton combo worked well because when Bill would say something outrageous and astute, they would work with it. And when he said something outrageous and idiotic, they would toss it right back at him.

Regardless, he refused to be another "copycat coach commentator". Everyone can pick one that they like - Van Gundy, Frattello, Hubie, Dr. Jack, Collins, etc., but the rest as just immitations.

count55
05-18-2009, 01:19 PM
Incredibly.

Bill Walton is a gem of a human being and the only thing that exceeds my sadness about him not being around during the NBA Playoffs is my sadness about his impaired health.

Get well, Big Fella.

I was not aware of any health issues, and I hope he can fully recover.

However, I have a low bar when it comes to announcers. I only ask that they not irritate the living **** out of me. Sadly, Bill Walton was never able to clear that hurdle.

Slick Pinkham
05-18-2009, 01:21 PM
I used to totally despise him and then I came to realize that 90% of what he said was sarcasm. At that point he started to be funny for me-- maybe I was dense at first but it took me a while to "get it".

So when Walton was doing a Pacers game and in garbage time, years ago, Bruno Sundov got a meaningless dunk and Walton starts screaming about it being one of the greatest dunks in the history of the franchise, I actually laughed my arse off.

He has a super-dry humor and loves the farsical exaggeration. If you know/appreciate/repect that up front, he can be amusing. He never taught me anything, like Hubie, but he gave me a laugh.

:twocents:

Now I love Reggie as a player and Pacer great, but on TV he is flat-out awful. Sorry!!

Major Cold
05-18-2009, 01:23 PM
I didn't know he was sick.
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ChicagoJ
05-18-2009, 01:24 PM
I still say Walton's all time best line came when Reggie traveled...

"RARELY DO YOU SEE A PLAYER FROM UCLA MAKE THAT TYPE OF MENTAL MISTAKE!!"

But it was all about the delivery. Because he blurted that out before Tom Hammond could even announce the reason for the whistle on the play by play. And then Tom had to stop chuckling to get back to broadcasting the game.

PacerDude
05-18-2009, 01:27 PM
Now I love Reggie as a player and Pacer great, but on TV he is flat-out awful. Sorry!!Agree, agree.

Major Cold
05-18-2009, 01:28 PM
I still say Walton's all time best line came when Reggie traveled...

"RARELY DO YOU SEE A PLAYER FROM UCLA MAKE THAT TYPE OF MENTAL MISTAKE!!"

But it was all about the delivery. Because he blurted that out before Tom Hammond could even announce the reason for the whistle on the play by play. And then Tom had to stop chuckling to get back to broadcasting the game.
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Slick Pinkham
05-18-2009, 01:32 PM
I always loved the old

"Someone should tell (Jalen Rose) that (Kobe Bryant) is right-handed and very likely will be so for the remainder of the game!"

heywoode
05-18-2009, 01:38 PM
The thing I didn't like about Walton was that he never seemed to have anything good to say about the Pacers. I can live with his goofiness, and his speech impediment, and it is nice that he is not the same telecaster that everyone else is. That's fine. He just always seemed to have it in for the Pacers, no matter how well they were playing, and that is what turned me against him.

If the Pacers were playing well and winning, the other team was not playing up to their potential. It wasn't that the Pacers were just better than the other team, the other team was off that night or just not getting it done. If the Pacers were losing, it was because they SUCK and can't play with anyone. Yeah, Walton....EAT IT.

I hope you recover and get healthy, though.

Wage
05-18-2009, 02:04 PM
I always enjoyed him. He has a tendency to make me smile, either by saying something funny, insightful, or insanely random. He also always seemed like he was having a great time, which is the point in watching a game in the first place.

naptownmenace
05-18-2009, 02:16 PM
I loved the poll options, especially this one:

"No, he is the worst color commentator in the history of color commentating."

Very clever! ;)

ChicagoJ
05-18-2009, 03:00 PM
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That's hilarious with all the Beach Boys references. I had to do a quick search to see if any of the Loves or Wilsons were a "Kevin".

Kid Minneapolis
05-18-2009, 04:08 PM
I didn't know he was sick.

Now that you mention it... I don't know why he's out, either.

Can someone enlighten me as to what ails Bill Walton? No jokes please.

Kid Minneapolis
05-18-2009, 04:11 PM
Nm, I found this:

http://articles.latimes.com/2008/may/25/sports/sp-plaschke25

Apparently, he's got a bad back and hip.

Roaming Gnome
05-18-2009, 04:16 PM
I think I'm going to reconsider what I said about not missing his schtick after having my mind refreshed. I guess I kinda do miss it, a bit.

Again, I tell you that Walton and Lawler made a hell of a team for the Clippers telecast. I watched Clipper games back in the day just because I knew I'd be cracking up a few times a quarter with those two.

ChicagoJ
05-18-2009, 04:18 PM
I think I'm going to reconsider what I said about not missing his schtick after having my mind refreshed. I guess I kinda do miss it, a bit.

Again, I tell you that Walton and Lawler made a hell of a team for the Clippers telecast. I watched Clipper games back in the day just because I knew I'd be cracking up a few times a quarter with those two.

That was the only reason to watch the Clippers.

aceace
05-18-2009, 04:19 PM
Bill deserves a nice retirement. At home with his medically issued swag... for healing and pain purposes of course. I do like his son Luke, plays hard and smart. Best wishes to Bill.

Los Angeles
05-18-2009, 04:27 PM
The kid should thank God he took after his mother.

bellisimo
05-18-2009, 05:02 PM
Walton was great....it was a shame that people always took him seriously...most of the time he was a giant sarcasm machine...

QuickRelease
05-18-2009, 05:18 PM
I love Bill Walton as a commentator, just because he makes watching the game more fun. Same with Slick. I appreciate Slick Leonard's wisdom of the game, but I enjoy him most when he's animated about the refs, boom babying triples, or holding back curse words (or not). It makes the game fun! I laugh a lot when listening to Walton, and I personally can't wait til he gets back.

McKeyFan
05-18-2009, 09:04 PM
I never understood the hatred for for him. Maybe too many took him WAY too seriously. I found him pretty entertaining in a "doofus" sort of way more then anything else. My absolute favorite Walton moments came from when he did the color for the Clippers telecast back in the mid 90's. Him and Ralph Lawler were comedy gold because the Clippers were so bad, so cheap, and I don't think Walton cared what he said on the air about the Clippers back then.

Do I miss him? Not really. Honestly, I didn't even notice his absence this year. I didn't get that, somethings missing vibe for the playoffs. I think his schtick is played out and it was probably time he was put to pasture.

Good post. Sums up my thoughts pretty well.

I always thought Walton was doing a Howard Cosell/Dick Vitale type of shtick, the guy you love to hate kind of thing.