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Smoothdave1
03-28-2009, 09:19 AM
Sounds like JOB will let Rush finish out the season. Glad to hear that Jack has stepped up and assumed a leadership role while helping out Rush as well.

And the article doesn't mention it, but their other neighbor is TJ Ford.


www.indystar.com/article/20090328/SPORTS04/903280427

Confident Rush now starting for Pacers

Rookie will probably be No. 1 shooting guard the rest of the season
By Mike Wells
Posted: March 28, 2009

There wasn't one particular moment that turned around Brandon Rush's rookie season.

It was a combination of good and bad events.

The Indiana Pacers shooting guard fought through it all to gain enough confidence from his coach that he likely will start the final 10 games of the season.

"It's really a case of trial and error," Pacers coach Jim O'Brien said. "Understanding and getting better. It doesn't come at one time. It's a culmination of a lot of effort, teaching and him working hard at it."

Rush moved into the starting lineup at shooting guard a week ago at Charlotte when O'Brien shook up the lineup by moving Jarrett Jack from shooting guard to point guard.

The Pacers, who play at Chicago this afternoon, are 2-0 since the switch, and Rush has totaled 26 points and 13 rebounds in that span.

Rush's defense hasn't gone unnoticed, either.

He played a part in holding Miami's Dwyane Wade, the league's leading scorer, to 5-of-24 shooting in Wednesday's victory.

"This is how I thought I would be able to play once I got comfortable," Rush said. "I always had confidence. It's just been up and down this season because I was playing early on, then I wasn't and now I'm playing again."

Rush didn't have time to learn. Mike Dunleavy's knee injury forced the Pacers to count on Rush more than they expected.

Rush was a regular in the rotation during the first two months, but then was relegated to the bench in January.

He was second guessing his shot selection and often looking over his shoulder at O'Brien when he made a mistake.

Jack, who lives next door to Rush, constantly visited his neighbor to help him stay focused.

"I want to keep him in attack mode, keep him aggressive," Jack said. "He's a really laid-back kid off the court and sometimes that translates to how he plays at times. In timeouts I'm telling him to be aggressive and look for his shot because sometimes he tends to fade in games and he's too talented to let him do that."

O'Brien said Rush is playing with more confidence.

"He doesn't worry about missing a shot," O'Brien said. "There's a lot of different things you can do to impact a basketball team and he's just starting to learn that."

A strong finish could keep him in the starting lineup next season if Dunleavy isn't ready to return.

"It's very important for Brandon to keep on seeing why he's succeeding," O'Brien said. "All the little things we've been talking about all season, he's applying them to his game. It's important for him to succeed in the last month of the season and carry it over into the summer and into next season."

Putnam
03-28-2009, 09:28 AM
This is a nice detail:


Jack, who lives next door to Rush, constantly visited his neighbor to help him stay focused.

Smoothdave1
03-28-2009, 09:41 AM
I sort of like when the players live near one another as I think it really helps with chemistry a little as they all tend to spend more time with one another.

Years ago, Reggie and Chuck Person lived next door to one another on Geist and Vern Fleming lived nearby and would all hang out together regularly. Bender also lived across the street from Stephen Jackson and Austin Croshere (who later sold the same house to Tony Dungy). Croshere later bought Jalen Rose's former house on Geist and had lived nearby previously as he and Jalen used to carpool. I think Brad Miller also lived in a house owned by Travis Best, but it had changed owners a few times before Miller bought it.

But Rush, Jack and Ford all currently live in the same condo complex.

PacersRule
03-28-2009, 09:55 AM
I sort of like when the players live near one another as I think it really helps with chemistry a little as they all tend to spend more time with one another.

Years ago, Reggie and Chuck Person lived next door to one another on Geist and Vern Fleming lived nearby and would all hang out together regularly. Bender also lived across the street from Stephen Jackson and Austin Croshere (who later sold the same house to Tony Dungy). Croshere later bought Jalen Rose's former house on Geist and had lived nearby previously as he and Jalen used to carpool. I think Brad Miller also lived in a house owned by Travis Best, but it had changed owners a few times before Miller bought it.

But Rush, Jack and Ford all currently live in the same condo complex.

Wow, this is some really cool info! I think Brad Miller used to live at Foster Estates in Carmel, walking distance from where I used to live.
The past two games had been awesome partly because of Rush. He still needs to improve his offense, but his D is just amazing.

DrFife
03-28-2009, 10:16 AM
Wow, this is some really cool info! I think Brad Miller used to live at Foster Estates in Carmel, walking distance from where I used to live.

Brad Miller at "Foster" Estates??

Are players going into the development business with the Simons?! What's next??!

"The Ford at Dunleavy's Creek [Creak]"?

"The Block at Hibbert's Lane"??

"The [Bone] Spur at Rush's Landing"???

"The Fountains of Jack & ..." you know.... :rolleyes:

Hicks
03-28-2009, 10:53 AM
My wish in all of this? That he keeps improving and holds this spot next season, and when Dunleavy is finally ready to return, that Rush is in a place where he won't deserve to be benched, and Dunleavy becomes 6th man, which I think would be a terrific place for Mike.

rexnom
03-28-2009, 11:21 AM
You can definitely win a championship with Brandon and Danny as your starting wings. I'm not saying we're anywhere close to that but I feel pretty confident that we've got two guys who'll be playing 40 MPG in the playoffs a couple of years from now.

AesopRockOn
03-28-2009, 11:39 AM
Well, all the Pacers need is three other starters.

pizza guy
03-28-2009, 11:53 AM
"It's really a case of trial and error," Pacers coach Jim O'Brien said. "Understanding and getting better. It doesn't come at one time. It's a culmination of a lot of effort, teaching and him working hard at it."

Nice detail right there. A coach that teaches young guys, and young guys that accept the coach's teaching and work hard.

--pizza

imawhat
03-28-2009, 12:27 PM
"He doesn't worry about missing a shot. There's a lot of different things you can do to impact a basketball team and he's just starting to learn that."

:bs2:

Dangit O'Brien! Brandon likely understands more about impacting a game without scoring than anyone else on the team. Many of us on this board noted this as his top attribute while at Kansas, so don't act like he's "just starting to learn that".

For a guy coaching basketball at the professional level, this is quote #1,276,476,467,378 from O'Brien that has made absolutely no sense.




Jack, who lives next door to Rush, constantly visited his neighbor to help him stay focused.

"I want to keep him in attack mode, keep him aggressive," Jack said. "He's a really laid-back kid off the court and sometimes that translates to how he plays at times. In timeouts I'm telling him to be aggressive and look for his shot because sometimes he tends to fade in games and he's too talented to let him do that."




I'll get things going this week by talking who should be the team's new leader now that Jermaine O'Neal is up Toronto.

I ran this by Larry Bird and he said he's got an idea who it's going to be because this person is already showing some of the traits it takes to be a leader.

I asked him who he's talking about and he said, "I'm not saying anything yet, but you'll be able to tell after the first couple of days of training camp."

I automatically thought of T.J. Ford since another Pacers official told me Ford has been reaching out to his new teammates about working out at Conseco Fieldhouse.

I had to think about that again when Bird said the player may not be a starter this season. I'm assuming Ford will be the starting point guard.

Reading more and more quotes about Jack and watching the way the team responding to his blowup, the 8/12 blog is appearing to make sense.

imawhat
03-28-2009, 12:32 PM
My wish in all of this? That he keeps improving and holds this spot next season, and when Dunleavy is finally ready to return, that Rush is in a place where he won't deserve to be benched, and Dunleavy becomes 6th man, which I think would be a terrific place for Mike.

Me too. I think Mike is PERFECT for the 6th man role. He is a very capable scorer and he makes the offense run more smoothly. You bring him and defensive/energy guys in when the starters are slumping and you have a team bench that can alter the game.


I'm glad Brandon is finally playing better. I'm still slightly worried about the way he's reacted to O'Brien because I think he needs to gain a lot of mental toughness. I still think Brandon would've played this well two months ago under different circumstances.

Trader Joe
03-28-2009, 12:34 PM
This team would have been better all along if Brandon was the starting two. His defense completely changes the makeup of this team.

EDIT: He's averaging close to 14ppg and 6 rpg in his 8 games started. His shooting percentages could use some help, but I think Danny can help him with that in the offseason. You add in his defense and you have a guy that if he had been starting all season probably would have been on the all rookie first team.

imawhat
03-28-2009, 12:55 PM
EDIT: He's averaging close to 14ppg and 6 rpg in his 8 games started. His shooting percentages could use some help, but I think Danny can help him with that in the offseason. You add in his defense and you have a guy that if he had been starting all season probably would have been on the all rookie first team.

His percentages will come around. A lot of the high % guys in college (including Chalmers and Beasley) have really dropped in the pros, but next year they should be fine.

Smoothdave1
03-28-2009, 01:37 PM
Brandon has 18 at the end of the 1st!!!

spazzxb
03-28-2009, 03:00 PM
Well, all the Pacers need is three other starters.

Hibbert will be our starting center for a long time.

flox
03-28-2009, 03:23 PM
Hibbert will be our starting center for a long time.

not if he keeps on fouling out.

also, i don't understand why you would want the worse player to start. unless dunleavy has the personality of ginobili and still plays ginobili minutes i don't see why we would bench him, it might hurt his psyche, and his scoring could be worse because he'll come in cold and not be in the flow of the game.

Anthem
03-28-2009, 03:29 PM
Hibbert will be our starting center for a long time.
Agreed. And I'm not convinced that Jack won't be a starter for us as well.

Trader Joe
03-28-2009, 03:31 PM
not if he keeps on fouling out.

also, i don't understand why you would want the worse player to start. unless dunleavy has the personality of ginobili and still plays ginobili minutes i don't see why we would bench him, it might hurt his psyche, and his scoring could be worse because he'll come in cold and not be in the flow of the game.

That is of course assuming the Dunleavy is the all around better player.

Trophy
03-28-2009, 03:33 PM
With the way Brandon played today he'll start for the remainder of the season.

Anthem
03-28-2009, 03:36 PM
also, i don't understand why you would want the worse player to start.
Dun's a good player, but not as good as Granger. And they play the same position.

He's not a 2.

Kaufman
03-28-2009, 04:47 PM
Rik Smits fouled out most games his first few years as well. I think Hibby is going to be just fine.

Brad8888
03-28-2009, 06:25 PM
Duh, Mr. Obvious (Wells).

PacersRule
03-28-2009, 06:59 PM
Wow, Rush's play really opened my eyes today! 18 points in a quarter!! 18. Wow.
Rush is going to be a hell of a player in the future, I really do think he has the potential to become as good as Danny some day.
As for whether Rush should start for the rest of the season, I don't know how drunk I have to be to answer no...

PacersRule
03-28-2009, 07:06 PM
You can definitely win a championship with Brandon and Danny as your starting wings. I'm not saying we're anywhere close to that but I feel pretty confident that we've got two guys who'll be playing 40 MPG in the playoffs a couple of years from now.

I totally agree. Granger and Rush combo can cause some serious damage. Only if we can get a dominant big man inside. Hibbert's coming along but his foul trouble is still a big problem. Foster and Baston aren't so young anymore, and chances are Rasho won't be here after this season. Nevertheless, I'm really looking forward to next season!

Anthem
03-28-2009, 07:18 PM
Quis and Rasho are gone, no question.

Murphy, TJ, Dunleavy, and Tinsley aren't in future plans, but I can't see us moving them. It will be quite difficult, at the very least.