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idioteque
03-25-2009, 12:21 PM
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Indiana Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -4.5 ppg, +4.8 rpg, and -4.1 apg.

<table class="breakdowntable" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <th colspan="2" scope="col">Incoming Players</th> </tr> <tr> <td class="photo"> http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Haslem_Udonis_mia.jpg </td> <td> Udonis Haslem
6-8 SF from Florida
10.6 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 1.1 apg in 34.3 minutes </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table class="breakdowntable" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <th colspan="2" scope="col">Outgoing Players</th> </tr> <tr> <td class="photo"> http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Ford_TJ_ind.jpg </td> <td> T.J. Ford
5-11 PG from Texas
15.1 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 5.2 apg in 30.8 minutes</td> </tr> </tbody></table>


Miami Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +4.5 ppg, -4.8 rpg, and +4.1 apg.

<table class="breakdowntable" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <th colspan="2" scope="col">Incoming Players</th> </tr> <tr> <td class="photo"> http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Ford_TJ_ind.jpg </td> <td> T.J. Ford
5-11 PG from Texas
15.1 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 5.2 apg in 30.8 minutes </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table class="breakdowntable" width="100%"><tbody><tr> <th colspan="2" scope="col">Outgoing Players</th> </tr> <tr> <td class="photo"> http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Haslem_Udonis_mia.jpg </td> <td> Udonis Haslem
6-8 SF from Florida
10.6 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 1.1 apg in 34.3 minutes</td></tr></tbody></table>
Thoughts?

MillerTime
03-25-2009, 01:07 PM
I'd rather keep Ford. Ford has more value than that

pacergod2
03-25-2009, 06:08 PM
I love it. The only problem is that the Heat are looking to re-sign DWade and another player in the summer of 2010. If TJ doesn't opt out, then you have another 8M holding up cap space. Not what the Heat need in looking to land a big time free agent.

idioteque
03-26-2009, 08:47 AM
I love it. The only problem is that the Heat are looking to re-sign DWade and another player in the summer of 2010. If TJ doesn't opt out, then you have another 8M holding up cap space. Not what the Heat need in looking to land a big time free agent.

Yeah, you're right, probably won't happen, thanks for the info.

MillerTime
03-26-2009, 09:54 AM
I love it. The only problem is that the Heat are looking to re-sign DWade and another player in the summer of 2010. If TJ doesn't opt out, then you have another 8M holding up cap space. Not what the Heat need in looking to land a big time free agent.

Great point. Ford will probably exercise his option in 2010

idioteque
03-26-2009, 11:02 AM
Great point. Ford will probably exercise his option in 2010

He'd be crazy not to.

count55
03-31-2009, 08:20 AM
He'd be crazy not to.

Particularly since everybody but Hoopshype says he doesn't have an option...and Hoopshype is (almost) never right.

BKK
03-31-2009, 08:59 AM
The problem with TJ's value is that it's terribly affected by his contract length.

For once I think it's a fair trade overall. Miami gets the better talent for sure but pays for it... So things even out in a certain way.

Not to mention it answers a true need for both teams though I think Miami is happy with Chalmers development. Still a good scoring option next to D Wade would be nice, I read in the daily dime the guy takes more than 50% of the starters shots... TJ could be the DWade's Mo Williams :|

MillerTime
03-31-2009, 09:13 AM
Particularly since everybody but Hoopshype says he doesn't have an option...and Hoopshype is (almost) never right.

Hoopsworld says he has an option too http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=9198

BKK
03-31-2009, 11:42 AM
Hoopshype and hoopsworld... same same, but different

pacergod2
03-31-2009, 12:07 PM
I could see El Heat doing this trade with a preliminary agreement with TJ that he will opt out of his contract and they will sign him to a longer, smaller deal. That way he can secure his spot on a contender and they aren't strapped for more money on a cap hold for Haslem or Ford's full 8.50M. It actually would help the Heat sign a big free agent next year. He and Chalmers would be an excellent PG combination IMO.

We need some bulk in the front court and Haslem can shoot fairly well. I love this deal. I would want to sign Haslem after this season, which might be tough to do however unless we can pawn Tinsley on someone. We aren't going to have much flexibility, but in this deal we are rid of Ford's contract to make it a possibility at least. I really like this deal, but the only way it gets done is if TJ signs an extension with the Heat prior to next year. Would be a smart move by the Heat. They already have too many PF's trying to play other positions and are VERY thin at PG.

MillerTime
04-01-2009, 10:17 AM
I could see El Heat doing this trade with a preliminary agreement with TJ that he will opt out of his contract and they will sign him to a longer, smaller deal. That way he can secure his spot on a contender and they aren't strapped for more money on a cap hold for Haslem or Ford's full 8.50M. It actually would help the Heat sign a big free agent next year. He and Chalmers would be an excellent PG combination IMO.

We need some bulk in the front court and Haslem can shoot fairly well. I love this deal. I would want to sign Haslem after this season, which might be tough to do however unless we can pawn Tinsley on someone. We aren't going to have much flexibility, but in this deal we are rid of Ford's contract to make it a possibility at least. I really like this deal, but the only way it gets done is if TJ signs an extension with the Heat prior to next year. Would be a smart move by the Heat. They already have too many PF's trying to play other positions and are VERY thin at PG.

How are you going to force that agreement though. I dont think Ford would be up for it. If you look at basic contract law, the only way to make changes to a contract is if both parties agree to it, and I dont see Ford doing that

pacergod2
04-01-2009, 11:00 AM
Why wouldn't he agree to a contract extension? He loses out on a couple million next year to guarantee more future money. I don't understand how he wouldn't do that... especially to play on a contender. Athletes negotiate extensions all the time in return for opting out of a higher last year in their contract. Especially in the land of guaranteed contracts.