06-28-2004, 04:24 PM
06-28-2004, 04:25 PM
Please no I don't want any lazy people here.
06-28-2004, 04:26 PM
I dont think Chicago would do this at all, we would jump all over it I imagine:bowdown:
06-28-2004, 04:29 PM
Yeah, why would Chicago do this? Harrington has too similar a skill set to Tyson.
06-28-2004, 04:31 PM
Someone please copy the article.
06-28-2004, 04:32 PM
Yeah, why would Chicago do this? Harrington has too similar a skill set to Tyson.
Tyson's a 7 foot shot blocker with a real nack for rebounding.
Al's a 6-9 scorer.
They are not the same thing.
Here it is..
Curry good bait for deal
Compared with other big men, he looks fine
June 28, 2004
He's the big guy who could make the difference for several teams, and there is big-time interest. He's under contract, but things are changing for his team, and it seems time for him to try again elsewhere.
Yep, Eddy Curry could become the big name in the summer trade market.
Of course, Shaquille O'Neal is for now. But the talk in Los Angeles is Kobe Bryant may be leaning toward signing with the Clippers as a free agent, given the curiosities surrounding the Lakers of late.
For example, owner Jerry Buss took off for a vacation in Italy before the draft last week, and Pat Riley was serious about rejoining the organization, but the Lakers refused to meet his price. Rudy Tomjanovich, the likely successor to Phil Jackson, is a nice guy. But, hey, that's Pat Riley! Yes, the Lakers are about to become the Boston Celtics.
Bryant goes on trial in late August for sexual assault, and the Lakers must weigh the possibility he'll be unavailable to them and any other team. Bryant's potential jail time aside, if the Lakers decide they can't re-sign him, they'll have to keep O'Neal no matter what.
O'Neal is said to have put his Los Angeles home up for sale, but he might not be going anywhere.
Looking for a big man? Erick Dampier, Marcus Camby, Vin Baker, Vlade Divac, Adonal Foyle, Rasheed Wallace, Mehmet Okur, Darius Songalia, Vitaly Potopenko and Zeljko Rebraca are all free agents. Suddenly, the 7-foot, 21-year-old Curry doesn't look like such a bad alternative. Looks pretty good, actually.
He simply doesn't fit here anymore, and it's no shame. Many terrific players need the shock of a trade to straighten out their priorities. It's one thing to have lackadaisical players like Eddie Robinson coming off the bench. It's another to have them in the starting lineup. Their attitude can infect an entire team.
The Bulls clearly are trying to put together a hustling, defense-oriented team, and they seem on the right course. Curry doesn't fit that mold, but he can bring something worthwhile in return. Enough, dare I say, that would result in a playoff prediction for next season. Here I go again. But stick with me here.
With Kirk Hinrich and rookie Ben Gordon in the backcourt, the Bulls will match up well. Perhaps Luol Deng will take some time to develop, but the hope is Tyson Chandler will recover--he was averaging about 13 points and 13 rebounds last season before back problems stopped him. Add a usable player or two and the Bulls can't play with Milwaukee, Boston or Miami?
Ideally, it would make sense to get Curry out of the Eastern Conference because he could one day become a pretty good player. Here's a look at some speculative deals that make sense for both sides:
• Memphis. The Grizzlies could use a center to compete in the West: Thus, a modest sign-and-trade of Curry for Stromile Swift, whom they're down on, and Shane Battier. If Memphis balked at Battier, the Bulls might take a backup guard like Earl Watson and a No. 1 pick.
• Denver. The Nuggets figure to re-sign Camby, but he fits better at power forward next to a big guy like Curry. The Bulls could get Nene Hilario and play him with Chandler and then take big-man bust Nikoloz Tskitishvili and perhaps work out a sign-and-trade in which Denver gets Jamal Crawford. The Knicks are talking of a $35 million free-agent offer to Crawford, which the Bulls probably wouldn't match.
• Portland. The Blazers have Theo Ratliff, but he's rarely healthy. This could be a big deal. If the Blazers are looking to move Shareef Abdur-Rahim, get him! Take Dale Davis off their hands with a one-year deal. Antonio Davis could help a contending team like Portland, which might be willing to take the short-term contracts of Scottie Pippen and Robinson.
• Dallas. The Mavericks are not about to get Shaq with all the junk they're offering, and Curry would make sense. It's hard to see what they'd have, but what could work is taking Antoine Walker for a year. He has talent if he can be controlled. In chasing Al Harrington and ending up with Deng, the Bulls traded themselves out of next year's draft, so they'd like to get a 2005 first-rounder. Dallas could come up with that and maybe take the contracts of Robinson and Jerome Williams to make it worthwhile for the Bulls.
• Seattle. The Sonics picked young big man Robert Swift in the draft, so they might be satisfied. But they want to add some athletic size and might offer Vladimir Radmanovic, a perimeter-shooting power forward, and Ronald Murray, because they're overloaded on the perimeter.
There also are some Eastern teams that have an interest in Curry, such as the Pacers, who might revisit the Harrington talks but are more likely to scale it down to hustling big man Jeff Foster and Austin Croshere. The Pacers would have to take Williams, Robinson or both.
Miami has long coveted Curry, though the Heat doesn't have much to offer. Perhaps Caron Butler and a No. 1 draft pick.
Knicks general manager Isiah Thomas likes Curry, and the chance to coach him was one reason he pursued the Bulls' coaching job last year. Kurt Thomas could be an adequate physical presence alongside Chandler, and the Knicks might take on some bad contracts while throwing in someone usable like Moochie Norris or Shandon Anderson.
And who are all these big guys you have to counter in the East? Miami was the fourth playoff seed with Brian Grant. Milwaukee was fourth until the last week of the season with Brian Skinner and Daniel Santiago. The Knicks had Nazr Mohammed and Vin Baker. Don't count out the Bulls quite yet.
So who are the big free agents, and where might they be going this summer? Contact can begin Thursday, signings in two weeks.
Bryant: Probably the Clippers. Dampier: Sign-and-trade to Memphis or Indiana. Mark Blount: Miami. Steve Nash: Phoenix. Okur: Phoenix. Brent Barry: Lakers. Rasheed Wallace: Detroit. Camby: Denver. Kenyon Martin: Denver. Manu Ginobili: San Antonio. Jamal Crawford: Knicks. Quentin Richardson: Atlanta.
Denver, Phoenix, Utah, Atlanta and the Clippers will be more than $10 million below the salary cap for free agency.
The list of free agents who'd fall within the Bulls' price range includes Brian Cardinal, Michael Doleac, Calbert Cheaney, Toni Kukoc, Wesley Person, Bob Sura, Eric Williams, Antonio McDyess, Foyle, Songalia and Skinner.
Nuts . . . er, Nets
Sounds like they want to build a food court more than a backcourt. In the ownership change and grand plans to build a major entertainment facility and move the team to Brooklyn, the Nets offered Martin for Denver's Nene to avoid paying Martin's big contract. They traded away their No. 1 pick, they're trying to dump Kerry Kittles, buy out Lucious Harris and Rodney Rogers and are said to be considering offers for Jason Kidd, who is having surgery and may miss the first month of the season.
The Nuggets have six first-rounders in the next two drafts and figure to be popular with a team like the Bulls, who have no No. 1 pick in 2005.
"We've already had a bunch of calls on them," Nuggets GM Kiki Vandeweghe said. "It's no secret we may use them this summer in a trade."
The Nuggets are about $20 million under the salary cap and are said to be interested in the Bulls' Crawford, New Jersey's Martin, Dallas' Nash and San Antonio's Ginobili.
The Spurs drafted from Slovenia (Beno Udrih), Central Africa (Romain Sato), Uzbekistan (Sergei Karaulov) and the Republic of Georgia (Viktor Sanikidze). They also tried to trade up to get St. Joseph's point guard Jameer Nelson.
Willis Reed is joining the Hornets' front office as the housecleaning in New York continues, with Marv Albert leaving the Knicks' broadcast booth. . . . Former DePaul star Tyrone Corbin has been working in player development for the Knicks and is talking to the Jazz about an assistant's job. . . . With Jackson leaving the Lakers, former aide Frank Hamblen is up for an assistant's job in Denver, as is Bill Cartwright. . . . Hamblen was the ABA Denver Rockets' director of player personnel from 1972-77. . . . Knicks GM Thomas hasn't given up on getting Wallace away from the Pistons. "I will respect their shining moment and let them have their peace before I try to cause holy hell for them," Thomas said. . . .
Heck of a season for Darko Milicic, who played the last two minutes of the championship-clinching game for the Pistons and broke his hand getting hit while taking a jump shot. He'll probably miss the Olympics for Serbia. . . . Pacers President Larry Bird isn't one to cave in to players' demands. Asked about unhappy Harrington, Bird said: "Al's position is Ronnie Artest's and Jermaine O'Neal's, so if [Harrington] is here, he'll be coming off the bench."
Past and present
The Bulls are expected to sign Lithuanian Arvydas Macijauskas, a 6-4 shooting guard who played in Spain last season. Mario Austin, a second-round pick from 2003, will have a good chance to make the team . . . Former Bull Trenton Hassell is expected to get most of Minnesota's midlevel exception. The T'wolves also plan to bring back Troy Hudson and Fred Hoiberg and are expected to try to deal Wally Szczerbiak, who is said to prefer going to the Bulls or Knicks. . . . The Suns didn't expect Arizona's Andre Iguodala to be available at No. 7 and said they probably wouldn't have traded the pick to the Bulls had they known.
Who are these guys?
The talk in Charlotte is the expansion Bobcats will bring to camp Primoz Brezec, Predrag Drobnjak, Brandon Hunter, Jason Kapono, Jamal Sampson, Theron Smith, Gerald Wallace, Jahidi White and perhaps Richie Frahm, Tamar Slay, Jeff Trepagnier and Loren Woods. They are not expected to keep Lonny Baxter, J.R. Bremer, Marcus Fizer, Maurice Carter and Desmond Ferguson. They already traded Aleksander Pavlovic and Zaur Pachulia.
Copyright © 2004, The Chicago Tribune
I'd much rather use Harrington to get a shooting guard.
06-28-2004, 06:46 PM
Curry would be an upgrade over the center we drafted, perhaps Austin + Harrison for Curry?
Curry is generally regarded as lazy. But for whichever team convincences him to work hard: he has tremendous potential as a legitimate back-to-the basket C. Unlike many of the current PF's masquereding as a C.
IMO, he just needs to be shown exactly how hard he needs to work to be a winner in the NBA. As Skiles started to really ride his @$$ this year, his conditioning and overall performance improved. I'd take a chance on him at the right price and I might even be persuaded that Al is the 'right price.'
(Unlike Chandler, as you might recall, whom I wouldn't take at any price.)
06-28-2004, 06:58 PM
:laugh: It speculated on trading Antonio Davis in a deal for Dale Davis. How ironic. Or is it? :hmm:
06-28-2004, 11:04 PM
no fat jokes please. Eddy Curry is a lazy fat bum who can't jump three inches. However, I would trade for him so that he can prevent Harrison fron gluttoning all of them donuts.
06-28-2004, 11:15 PM
Umm.... Harrington's a fitness freak. Donuts?
06-28-2004, 11:38 PM
Where did they come up with the information that Dampier could be in a sign and trade with either us or Memphis?
I'd rather take our chances with our unproven 29th draft pick, than to give up very much to get a fat lazy unproven Eddy Curry.
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