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OakMoses
02-18-2009, 05:01 PM
Aldridge: Bulls to land Salmons, Miller for Nocioni, Gooden

http://www.nba.com/2009/news/02/18/bulls.kings.trade/index.html

By David Aldridge, TNT analyst
Posted Feb 18 2009 4:33PM
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The Kings agreed on Wednesday to a trade that sends forward John Salmons and center Brad Miller to the Chicago Bulls in exchange for forwards Drew Gooden and Andres Nocioni, according to league sources. The deal will reduce Sacramento's obligations next season, saving the Kings millions on the salary cap and keeping them well under any potential luxury tax payments. Gooden, making $7.15 million this season, will likely come off the team's cap after this year, and now, the team is free of the $5.4 million due to Salmons in 2009 and the $12 million due to Miller in '09.
This will be Miller's second go-round in Chicago; he played two-plus seasons in Chicago after being traded from Charlotte in 2000 before being dealt to Indiana in a trade that also sent Ron Artest to the Pacers in exchange for Jalen Rose.

Sacramento will absorb the remaining four years and $28.4 million on Nocioni's contract, but Nocioni's contract actually goes down after next season, when he's scheduled to make $7.5 million, to $6.8 million in 2010 and $6.6 million in 2011 before going back up to $7.5 million in the final season -- a season that will be the Kings' option to pick up.
The Kings have gotten good financial news all week. They traded a future second-round pick to Boston for veteran Sam Cassell on Monday in a deal that will net Sacramento approximately $500,000. And yesterday, the Kings learned that the league will grant them financial relief on the remaining two seasons on the contract of forward Shareef Abdur-Rahim, who has retired after years of knee problems. Because he hasn't played this season, the league will allow insurance to pay 80 percent of his remaining salary. So while he'll stay on the team's books, its out-of-pocket payments will be reduced significantly.

With second-year center Spencer Hawes and rookie forward Jason Thompson playing big minutes for Sacramento, Miller was a luxury. And Salmons' good play this season made him a candidate to be moved, with Dallas in hot pursuit for several weeks. The Mavericks had hoped to entice Sacramento with the contract of guard Jerry Stackhouse, who is guaranteed only $2 million of his $7.2 million salary next season (Stackhouse would get the full amount if his team wins the NBA title, unlikely in the extreme if he had been sent to the Kings).

Miller's presence could conceivably clear the way for Chicago to move one of its young pivotmen, either Tyrus Thomas or Joakim Noah, in another deal. Thomas was part of a package the Bulls were trying to move to Phoenix for forward Amar'e Stoudemire, but the Suns have indicated in recent days that they're more likely to keep Stoudemire now that they've replaced former coach Terry Porter with assistant Alvin Gentry.
The Bulls have also been looking to cut costs for next season, and have been shopping Nocioni hard for months. Chicago is still looking for a suitor for Larry Hughes, who has essentially been deactivated from the team in the last month by coach Vinny Del Negro while management seeks a deal for him. Sources indicate Hughes could still potentially be sent to Washington in exchange for guard Mike James and center Etan Thomas if the Bulls don't make any other big deals.

ESPN.com first reported the discussions between the Kings and Bulls.

Jonathan
02-18-2009, 05:05 PM
I hope this leads to this deal

Pacers send
Maceo Baston
Rasho
J Tinsley

Bulls Send
Noah
Hughes

Justin Tyme
02-18-2009, 05:07 PM
It will be interesting to see how Salmons fits into the Bulls team.

BRushWithDeath
02-18-2009, 05:07 PM
I hope this leads to this deal

Pacers send
Maceo Baston
Rasho
J Tinsley

Bulls Send
Noah
Hughes

Why on Earth would it lead to that deal?

duke dynamite
02-18-2009, 05:08 PM
Wow, Brad Miller is a Bull again.

Justin Tyme
02-18-2009, 05:08 PM
I hope this leads to this deal

Pacers send
Maceo Baston
Rasho
J Tinsley

Bulls Send
Noah
Hughes


Yeah right, like they need another PG.

OakMoses
02-18-2009, 05:08 PM
I hope this leads to this deal

Pacers send
Maceo Baston
Rasho
J Tinsley

Bulls Send
Noah
Hughes

I'd like to have Noah, but I'd hate to see Larry Hughes in O'Brien's offense.

Trader Joe
02-18-2009, 05:10 PM
So...no Amare for you Chicago.

BRushWithDeath
02-18-2009, 05:15 PM
So...no Amare for you Chicago.

If anything this makes the chance of Chicago landing an Amare or a Bosh more likely.

avoidingtheclowns
02-18-2009, 05:16 PM
someone actually traded for noccioni?




If anything this makes the chance of Chicago landing an Amare or a Bosh more likely.

why more likely? part of the appeal would have been gooden's expiring deal.

OakMoses
02-18-2009, 05:19 PM
someone actually traded for noccioni?


The Kings aren't as bad as they are just by chance.

OakMoses
02-18-2009, 05:22 PM
According to ESPN the Kings also get Cedric Simmons from the Bulls and Ike Diogu from the Blazers as part of the trade.

The Bulls send Michael Ruffin to Portland for Diogu.

Trader Joe
02-18-2009, 05:24 PM
If anything this makes the chance of Chicago landing an Amare or a Bosh more likely.

How? They needed Gooden's expiring deal.

avoidingtheclowns
02-18-2009, 05:30 PM
The Kings aren't as bad as they are just by chance.

apparently. it seems i might owe anthem an apology.

ReginaldWayne
02-18-2009, 05:52 PM
Chicage probably has another trade in them b4 2mrw.

This gives them rose, gordon, hinrich, hughes, sefolosha, deng, and salmons.

I dont think salmons is going to be happy playing for Chi. Not if hes not gna start, and most likely not gna finish.

CableKC
02-18-2009, 05:59 PM
The Bulls send Michael Ruffin to Portland for Diogu.
After years of searching, the Bulls get the Low-Post scorer that they have been looking for. :rolleyes:

vnzla81
02-18-2009, 06:18 PM
After years of searching, the Bulls get the Low-Post scorer that they have been looking for. :rolleyes:

yeah an old guy with not many miles left in his legs. They said not to KG, Gasol because they think that Deng is going to be the next MJ.

MyFavMartin
02-18-2009, 06:23 PM
Chicage probably has another trade in them b4 2mrw.

Maybe more than one?

blanket
02-18-2009, 06:40 PM
Bulls May Trade Hinrich To Minnesota

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/chi090218-chicago-bulls-trade-kings-timberwolves,0,6447170.story

In a second potential deal with the Timberwolves, the Bulls would send Kirk Hinrich (who is scheduled to make $26.5 million over the next three seasons) for the expiring salary of 7-foot center Jason Collins and another unknown piece, possibly Brian Cardinal. This trade clearly would be a salary dump.

CableKC
02-18-2009, 07:01 PM
yeah an old guy with not many miles left in his legs. They said not to KG, Gasol because they think that Deng is going to be the next MJ.
I was ( tongue in cheek ) referring to Diogu. I'm not so sure that Brad is that much of a true low-post scorer in his old age as Ike is right now.

Hoop
02-18-2009, 07:04 PM
So the Bulls trade Miller away for his best years and now bring him back when he's on his way down. :rolleyes:

Bulls management have been horrible since the glory days with Mike.

WetBob
02-18-2009, 07:08 PM
Bulls management have been horrible since the glory days with Mike.

In all fairness to the Bulls' Front Office...how hard would it have been with Mike?

Maybe they always sucked, just lucked out with a once in a lifetime player to build around.

Doddage
02-18-2009, 07:13 PM
What the hell is this? Awful trade for the Kings...

grace
02-18-2009, 08:11 PM
I'd like to have Noah, but I'd hate to see Larry Hughes in O'Brien's offense.

I'd like the Pacers to take Noah if only to see Shade's head explode. :devil:

If you're willing to take Larry Hughes you might as well let Tinsley play instead.

Thankfully I'm no longer a Bulls fan because this trade would **** me off. Getting Brad is fine, but no way would I want to trade Noc to get him. I'd have to trouble with getting rid of Hinrich.

I saw a clip of Luol Deng and Ben Gordon being interviewed about the trade that went through. Neither one of them appeared to be very happy about it. Here's hoping they're so pissed off they play like crap tonight. :cheers:

Smoothdave1
02-18-2009, 10:50 PM
Umm, didn't Diogu go to Sac town???

count55
02-18-2009, 10:53 PM
Umm, didn't Diogu go to Sac town???

Does it matter?

duke dynamite
02-18-2009, 10:55 PM
Does it matter?
lol

Smoothdave1
02-18-2009, 11:18 PM
Was just clarifying the actual trade.

Sac is now loaded with players at the 4: Diogu, Williams, Thomas, Gooden, Moore, Simmons and Thompson.

Jonathan
02-19-2009, 08:55 AM
Why on Earth would it lead to that deal?

If you want to discuss that trade. I have posted my thoughts in the trade section.

count55
02-19-2009, 09:38 AM
Was just clarifying the actual trade.

Sac is now loaded with players at the 4: Diogu, Williams, Thomas, Gooden, Moore, Simmons and Thompson.

I was merely commenting that the only thing that Ike will do for his future team, whichever it is, is to keep his chair from flying into the ceiling.

Kegboy
02-19-2009, 09:38 AM
I'd like the Pacers to take Noah if only to see Shade's head explode. :devil:

My thoughts exactly.

VF21
02-19-2009, 11:57 PM
Was just clarifying the actual trade.

Sac is now loaded with players at the 4: Diogu, Williams, Thomas, Gooden, Moore, Simmons and Thompson.

After the trades of today, what the Kings are loaded with are expiring contracts. As of April 16, we will have only 8 players committed for the 2009-2010 roster. We'll have room under the salary cap, we'll have two frist round draft picks (one of which should be in the top 3) and we'll have finally put all the attempts to bandaid the team to rest once and for all.

It's a good day to be a Kings fan.

I'll miss Brad but I think it was a great deal for us and for him. All of a sudden, we're fun to watch again win or lose.