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Unclebuck
06-24-2004, 10:15 PM
He looked fat and slow to me.

Anyone know anything about him

SpADeD
06-24-2004, 10:16 PM
Apparenly he needs to work on his maturity, not sure that is good for us.

Kstat
06-24-2004, 10:16 PM
He looked fat and slow to me.

Anyone know anthing about him

No, I think you summed up his career in Colorado very well.....

He reminds me a LOT of oliver miller. A guy with skill but no control over his temper or weight.

One thing he DOESNT have that Miller did was decent-sized hands.

ROCislandWarrior
06-24-2004, 10:17 PM
Apparenly he needs to work on his maturity, not sure that is good for us.

7 foot version of 2002-2003 Ron Artest


Minus the skills of course :unimpressed:

Ragnar
06-24-2004, 10:17 PM
Here is the draft city report on him

Weakness

Harrison has just as many or maybe even more flaws to his game then he has assets at this point. Almost none of them are incorrectable, although they are really glaring when watching him.

His biggest problem is mentally. He often acts like a big baby, and itís painfully obvious that he needs to substantially mature to handle the everyday stresses and challenges of the NBA. Harrison allows himself to be taken out of games, by tougher and stronger players, but also by fans. Against Kansas earlier this year he was twice caught arguing with fans and had to be restrained and escorted off the court after he fouled out with just five points and two rebounds in 14 minutes. He gets extremely frustrated when he takes what he considers to be hard fouls, and itís no secret in the Big 12 that he has a very bad temper. That is something that needs to change quickly if he wants to be taken seriously as an NBA player. Coaches, teammates, rivals and referees will just not stand for the kind of behavior that has become a norm at Colorado. His feud with Kansas is well documented, starting with his brother trash talking and brawling with Nick Collison, to David telling the media that Kansas is overrated, and probably the funniest incident of them all was Harrison arguing with Drew Gooden through the media over whether or not he called him ďDrew PuddinĒ. When asked if Iowa State fans were the worst in the Big 12, Harrison replied, "You haven't been to Kansas, have you?" That sums up Harrison pretty well.

Harrison is not stupid though. By all accounts he comes off as being very well spoken in interviews, and he was recently named to the Big 12 Commissioners Academic Honor Roll. He scored a 165 out of 185 on his pre-law test. His temperament does not stem from a lack of intelligence.

Even though he plays for an average team, in an average conference, Harrison does not use his skills to take the team on his back and dominate. He has come up flat in a couple of big games already, especially down the stretch when his team needs him most. his credit though, he does receive an extraordinary amount of attention from the opposing team. Itís not unusual at all to see him being double and triple teamed for large parts of the game. When this happens though, Harrison doesnít fight back, he just tends to give up. He looks lazy, uninspired, lethargic, and just generally disinterested if things arenít going his way.

While he has a very nice frame, he has a lot of work to do in the weight room. Itís yet to be seen if he has the work ethic to put in that kind of effort though. His conditioning in general still leaves a lot to be desired. He tires quickly even on the college level, and you can expect him to hit the rookie wall in the NBA fairly quickly if he doesnít make a big effort to get himself in top shape.

Harrison is a mediocre rebounder for a player his size. This is probably the weakest part of his game. This directly correlates to his demeanor on and off the court, itís no secret that rebounding is just as much effort and hustle as it is skill related. With that said, Harrison does not have an imposing wingspan, he will really have to work hard to be a good rebounder in the NBA.

Strenghts

Harrison is 7 feet tall and has a legit NBA body. That alone will make him a first rounder whenever he decides to come out. Right now there just aren't many better Centers in the NCAA. He has an excellent frame, big broad shoulders, strong legs and he's extremely athletic for a player his size. He has excellent moves in the paint, very nice footwork, and a soft touch around the basket. Harrison is a great target to have inside, he establishes position very well and loves to get the ball with his back to the basket. He has a nice shooting stroke for a big man and will occasionally step outside and hit the 14 footer. On defense he is extremely solid, thanks to his size, strength and good leaping ability he gets his fair share of blocked shots. He has an overall quickness to his game as well, and he runs the floor pretty well. Harrison demands a lot of attention on the floor, he can beat you in many different ways if he has his head in the game.

Comments

David Harrison is going to be one of the more interesting stories of the 2004 draft if he decides to declare. In terms of size, skill and athleticism, he is without a doubt a lottery pick. His attitude and maturity though are extremely questionable; especially when you consider that he is already a Junior. That could easily destroy any chance he has of ever developing into a starting Center. He'll be getting serious looks from every team in the NBA that is lacking a post presence though, and impressive workouts could easily push him into the lottery. All of his flaws have been out in the open for years now, and it is fair to say that he won't amount to much unless someone manages to motivate him strongly enough to realize his enormous potential.

Best Case Scenario: Michael Olowakandi at his full potential
Worst Case Scenario: Michael Olowakandi at his lowest potential

Young
06-24-2004, 10:20 PM
What in the world is LB doing and what in the world is DW letting him do.

We better not keep this kid. I've read 3Xs more bad things than good things about him.

Unclebuck
06-24-2004, 10:21 PM
I wish we could just cut him right now, sounds like all he'll so is take up about 800k of cap space.

Suaveness
06-24-2004, 10:23 PM
I wish we could just cut him right now, sounds like all he'll so is take up about 800k of cap space.

Sounds good to me. Too bad we can't :mad:

ABADays
06-24-2004, 10:23 PM
This wasn't a letdown UB - it was a crash!

t-Bone
06-24-2004, 10:25 PM
hmmmmmmmmmm, hes with us for 3 years since he was first round

arkman40
06-24-2004, 10:25 PM
Don't know about anyone else, but I'm giving this guy his chance to show us what he's got. When does the Summer League start?

Unclebuck
06-24-2004, 10:26 PM
I have always heard that teams would rather not have a late first round pick because you have to pay the player for at least 4 years guaranteed, no matter what

Netweeny
06-24-2004, 10:26 PM
Time for some happy thoughts!!

Feisty Temper = Same as Ron

Small Hands = Same as Antonio Davis

Decent 14 foot shot = Same as Brad

I'll take him!

ABADays
06-24-2004, 10:28 PM
What happened to Xiahongp Zinchini?

zxc
06-24-2004, 10:29 PM
Don't know about anyone else, but I'm giving this guy his chance to show us what he's got. When does the Summer League start?

Yeah I dunno why everyone is ripping this guy already. Rather have another random big guy because he is 8 feet tall and they know absolutley nothing about them I guess. Who was that guy the knicks took last year, Slavko Vranes or something? Yeah, he was great.. :unimpressed:

I doubt any guy we got here would have broken the rotation anyway, so just wait and see I guess.

able
06-24-2004, 10:29 PM
Career Highlights: Named First Team All-Big 12 and earned Honorable Mention All-America honors by AP as a senior. Finished collegiate career as the all-time leading shot-blocker in Colorado history (fourth all-time in the Big 12) with 225 rejections. Also finished as Coloradoís all-time career field goal percentage leader (60.2 percent), eighth all-time rebounder (707), and 13th all-time scorer (1,317). Posted 25 career double-doubles, two career triple-doubles, and blocked four or more shots in 25 games.


Colorado
Season G GS FGM FGA PCT FTM FTA PCT 3PM 3PA PCT REB AST STL BL PTS AVG
2001-02 27 22 139 218 .638 97 173 .561 0 0 188 11 15 34 375 13.9
2002-03 32 31 164 300 .547 117 208 .563 0 0 265 16 22 106 445 13.9
2003-04 29 28 186 295 .631 125 232 .539 0 1 .000 254 25 17 85 497 17.1
Totals 88 81 489 813 .602 339 613 .553 0 1 .000 707 52 54 225 1317 15.0

Grant
06-24-2004, 10:32 PM
I have always heard that teams would rather not have a late first round pick because you have to pay the player for at least 4 years guaranteed, no matter what

Well I think it is 3 years, but it seems as though rights can be renounced. I think LA drafted Travis Knight, but then dud not sign him. Anybody remember what happened there?

ABADays
06-24-2004, 10:34 PM
I think LA drafted Travis Knight, but then dud not sign him.

A freudian slip perhaps!

leon
06-24-2004, 10:34 PM
Perhaps they drafted him so he can show Bender how to eat.

If nothing else he provides a big body for J.O. to bang against in practice. I'm not sure what we were expecting from what is essentially a 2nd round pick. We weren't going to get someone who will contribute any time soon. But if the guy can slim down and get his head together, you have an athletic seven footer on your bench.

Netweeny
06-24-2004, 10:39 PM
Sure, he LOOKED chubby in the video clip, but he's listed at 7-0 , 250 lbs. Which isn't bad. I'm thinking he just has that Jamal Tinsley chubby look to him. (At least I hope so).

I'm with the positive thinkers here. I think its a solid pick. We get a big center that has loads of talent. From everything I've read about him, he just needs to mature a bit. Apparently he's actually a pretty smart guy, he just gets hot under the collar and frustrated easily.

Here's to letting him mature! (cough *Bender* cough)


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sweabs
06-24-2004, 10:41 PM
Larry, DW and Carlisle obviously think they can tone his temper down. Apparently he has some good footwork and post moves...which is good. I'll give the guy a chance...we did lose Primoz after all.

However...after seeing more of Luke Jackson and hearing more about him...I am really starting to like the idea of acquiring him for Al.

Suaveness
06-24-2004, 10:42 PM
Larry, DW and Carlisle obviously think they can tone his temper down. Apparently he has some good footwork and post moves...which is good. I'll give the guy a chance...we did lose Primoz after all.

However...after seeing more of Luke Jackson and hearing more about him...I am really starting to like the idea of acquiring him for Al.


I'm glad you do. Too bad Cleveland doesn't.

sweabs
06-24-2004, 10:43 PM
Larry, DW and Carlisle obviously think they can tone his temper down. Apparently he has some good footwork and post moves...which is good. I'll give the guy a chance...we did lose Primoz after all.

However...after seeing more of Luke Jackson and hearing more about him...I am really starting to like the idea of acquiring him for Al.


I'm glad you do. Too bad Cleveland doesn't.

I know :(

From what Silas was saying - they are wanting to keep him because they obviously need the outside shooting as well.

Shade
06-24-2004, 10:45 PM
Guys, it's a freakin' 29th pick in a weak draft.

What do you want? :shrug:

Suaveness
06-24-2004, 10:46 PM
Guys, it's a freakin' 29th pick in a weak draft.

What do you want? :shrug:

A guy without maturity problems.

J-Wont
06-24-2004, 10:46 PM
Draft City had Harrison on their All-Underrated !st Team. Here's what they had to say about him:

C: David Harrison
What they are saying: Lazy?uninspired?overweight and out of shape?never lived up to his huge potential out of high school?should have dominated the Big 12 but never did.

With all the hoopla around the teenage 7 footers in this draft (Pavel, Ramos and Swift) and all the complaining about how there are no true American centers anymore, Harrison is always somehow written off as a player that will never live up to his enormous potential. But what if he does? And why do the teenagers get a free pass from being called busts while the more polished 21 year old with just as big of an upside slips?

So what do we have here? Harrison is a legit 7 footer with a great NBA body with great potential to add even more strength. He has slimmed down over the past few months and is probably in the best shape of his life. Whether he?ll maintain that or not is up to him and the team that drafts him, but right now he is likely to be the most ready 7 footer to come in and have an impact for his team.
He is strong and athletic; he gets up and down the floor extremely well and has a great vertical leap that just screams shotblocking potential. He has excellent moves in the paint, very nice footwork, and a soft touch around the basket. Harrison is a great target to have inside; he establishes position very well and loves to get the ball with his back to the basket. He has a nice shooting stroke for a big man and will occasionally step outside and hit the 14 footer.
If some team can motivate this kid to live up to what he can do on the court, he will EASILY be the best big man in this draft, and possibly even an all-star. If not, you are looking at another Jerome James or Elden Campbell, which isn?t all that bad if you are picking in the mid-late 1st.

Hicks
06-24-2004, 10:46 PM
Guys, it's a freakin' 29th pick in a weak draft.

What do you want? :shrug:

Uhh, maybe someone NOT fat, soft, and mentally weak, with attitude problems? I wouldn't want that out of a 2nd round pick.

Natston
06-24-2004, 10:46 PM
Here's ESPN's take on the pick

This is a very good pick-up for the Pacers. They felt the loss of Brad Miller this year. Harrison could fill that void. He's a good player. It's really just about his head. If he focuses, he should've went in the lottery. You normally don't find this type of size at this point in the draft. Nice pick.

Hicks
06-24-2004, 10:48 PM
Draft City had Harrison on their All-Underrated !st Team. Here's what they had to say about him:

C: David Harrison
What they are saying: Lazy?uninspired?overweight and out of shape?never lived up to his huge potential out of high school?should have dominated the Big 12 but never did.

With all the hoopla around the teenage 7 footers in this draft (Pavel, Ramos and Swift) and all the complaining about how there are no true American centers anymore, Harrison is always somehow written off as a player that will never live up to his enormous potential. But what if he does? And why do the teenagers get a free pass from being called busts while the more polished 21 year old with just as big of an upside slips?

So what do we have here? Harrison is a legit 7 footer with a great NBA body with great potential to add even more strength. He has slimmed down over the past few months and is probably in the best shape of his life. Whether he?ll maintain that or not is up to him and the team that drafts him, but right now he is likely to be the most ready 7 footer to come in and have an impact for his team.
He is strong and athletic; he gets up and down the floor extremely well and has a great vertical leap that just screams shotblocking potential. He has excellent moves in the paint, very nice footwork, and a soft touch around the basket. Harrison is a great target to have inside; he establishes position very well and loves to get the ball with his back to the basket. He has a nice shooting stroke for a big man and will occasionally step outside and hit the 14 footer.
If some team can motivate this kid to live up to what he can do on the court, he will EASILY be the best big man in this draft, and possibly even an all-star. If not, you are looking at another Jerome James or Elden Campbell, which isn?t all that bad if you are picking in the mid-late 1st.

That's the most generous report I've read, the rest make him sound awful.

J-Wont
06-24-2004, 10:49 PM
Wow, sounds very nice. I'm definantly satisfied with this pick.

arkman40
06-24-2004, 10:50 PM
Uhh, maybe someone NOT fat, soft, and mentally weak, with attitude problems? I wouldn't want that out of a 2nd round pick.

Do you honestly trust what you have heard about this guy in the last hour over Bird and Walsh's assessments? Do you really think they would have given a guaranteed 3 years to a guy who is doomed to be a fat, soft, weak problem child?

Hicks
06-24-2004, 10:54 PM
Uhh, maybe someone NOT fat, soft, and mentally weak, with attitude problems? I wouldn't want that out of a 2nd round pick.

Do you honestly trust what you have heard about this guy in the last hour over Bird and Walsh's assessments? Do you really think they would have given a guaranteed 3 years to a guy who is doomed to be a fat, soft, weak problem child?

That's a good point. However, it's all over the place with his weaknesses and downside. I think they took him hoping his potential would come through.

Shade
06-24-2004, 10:57 PM
Seeing as how I doubt anyone on this board has seen him play, but Bird and Donnie very likely have, I'll defer to them on this one. ;)

I didn't freak when we drafted Freddie over Kareem, or traded Tony for Bendy-straw, or when we did the Chicago trade, or even when we traded DD for JO. I'm not going to freak now -- not over a 29th pick. :)

arkman40
06-24-2004, 10:58 PM
However, it's all over the place with his weaknesses and downside.

I know, but do you think all these scouting reports have any particular degree of accuracy about what this kid is all about going forward? Or is the research the Pacers staff did on him a better indication?

Natston
06-24-2004, 11:00 PM
Seeing as how I doubt anyone on this board has seen him play, but Bird and Donnie very likely have, I'll defer to them on this one. ;)

I didn't freak when we drafted Freddie over Kareem, or traded Tony for Bendy-straw, or when we did the Chicago trade, or even when we traded DD for JO. I'm not going to freak now -- not over a 29th pick. :)

I want some pessimism! :mad: :flirt:

Shade
06-24-2004, 11:04 PM
Seeing as how I doubt anyone on this board has seen him play, but Bird and Donnie very likely have, I'll defer to them on this one. ;)

I didn't freak when we drafted Freddie over Kareem, or traded Tony for Bendy-straw, or when we did the Chicago trade, or even when we traded DD for JO. I'm not going to freak now -- not over a 29th pick. :)

I want some pessimism! :mad: :flirt:

Remember...I'm bipolar. ;)

It's my time to shine. :D

Slick Pinkham
06-24-2004, 11:06 PM
He steps into the void created by the departure of Primoz Brezac.

Might as well put him on the injured list RIGHT NOW.

:)

Will Galen
06-24-2004, 11:12 PM
Don't know about anyone else, but I'm giving this guy his chance to show us what he's got. When does the Summer League start?

Yeah, guys aren't giving him a chance. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Hoop
06-24-2004, 11:13 PM
Guys, it's a freakin' 29th pick in a weak draft.

What do you want? :shrug:

A guy without maturity problems.

On the bright side, if he is throwing thinks and getting in to it with the fans, maybe nobody will notice our little angel Ron acting up.

ChicagoJ
06-24-2004, 11:14 PM
Who says it has to be a guaranteed three years?

Remember Greg Minor?

Can't we just fail to offer him a qualifying contract offer, making him an unrestricted FA?

Natston
06-24-2004, 11:17 PM
Who says it has to be a guaranteed three years?

Remember Greg Minor?

Can't we just fail to offer him a qualifying contract offer, making him an unrestricted FA?

Maybe we can convince him to play overseas, so we can retain his rights...

Hoop
06-24-2004, 11:19 PM
Draft City had Harrison on their All-Underrated !st Team. Here's what they had to say about him:

C: David Harrison
What they are saying: Lazy?uninspired?overweight and out of shape?never lived up to his huge potential out of high school?should have dominated the Big 12 but never did.

With all the hoopla around the teenage 7 footers in this draft (Pavel, Ramos and Swift) and all the complaining about how there are no true American centers anymore, Harrison is always somehow written off as a player that will never live up to his enormous potential. But what if he does? And why do the teenagers get a free pass from being called busts while the more polished 21 year old with just as big of an upside slips?

So what do we have here? Harrison is a legit 7 footer with a great NBA body with great potential to add even more strength. He has slimmed down over the past few months and is probably in the best shape of his life. Whether he?ll maintain that or not is up to him and the team that drafts him, but right now he is likely to be the most ready 7 footer to come in and have an impact for his team.
He is strong and athletic; he gets up and down the floor extremely well and has a great vertical leap that just screams shotblocking potential. He has excellent moves in the paint, very nice footwork, and a soft touch around the basket. Harrison is a great target to have inside; he establishes position very well and loves to get the ball with his back to the basket. He has a nice shooting stroke for a big man and will occasionally step outside and hit the 14 footer.
If some team can motivate this kid to live up to what he can do on the court, he will EASILY be the best big man in this draft, and possibly even an all-star. If not, you are looking at another Jerome James or Elden Campbell, which isn?t all that bad if you are picking in the mid-late 1st.

That's the most generous report I've read, the rest make him sound awful.

Doesn't sound to bad for a 29th pick, really. :dance:

Anthem
06-24-2004, 11:21 PM
He shot 60% for the year? That's not a bad thing in a big man.

If there's anybody that can straighten up a lazy white stiff, it's Larry Bird. :devil:

ChicagoJ
06-24-2004, 11:23 PM
David Harrison as a rookie vs. Erick Dampier as a rookie?

Discuss.

Natston
06-24-2004, 11:23 PM
He shot 60% for the year? That's not a bad thing in a big man.

If there's anybody that can straighten up a lazy white stiff, it's Larry Bird. :devil:

He's not white...

http://www.thehollandsentinel.net/images/032203/13LR.jpg

zxc
06-24-2004, 11:24 PM
If there's anybody that can straighten up a lazy white stiff, it's Larry Bird. :devil:

hmm?
http://www.nba.com/media/mediacentralns/2004Draft_Harrison_David.jpg

J-Wont
06-24-2004, 11:26 PM
He shot 60% for the year? That's not a bad thing in a big man.

If there's anybody that can straighten up a lazy white stiff, it's Larry Bird. :devil:
White?

Peck
06-24-2004, 11:28 PM
What the hell, it's the 29th pick. Nobody from this draft was going to come in & play at that pick so we might as well go with someone who has a chance to make something of himself.

Sure, he could flop. But we've had to watch Primoz for years so how could this be any worse.

At worse you can always sucker somebody into taking a 7' player for something sometime down the line.

At best, hey he could work out & be a decent backup center. Something right now we don't have.

J-Wont
06-24-2004, 11:34 PM
At best, hey he could work out & be a decent backup center. Something right now we don't have.
Actually from what I'm reading, IF he can control himself and work a little harder, he can be a very quality starting center. And I think he can, he went from 280 to 250 for the Draft so that shows me he's got atleast some work ethic.

Anthem
06-24-2004, 11:34 PM
Ehh, my mistake. Sue me.

Shade
06-24-2004, 11:37 PM
Wooooo!!! Last pick!!!

:sleep:

Shade
06-24-2004, 11:38 PM
Rashad Wright from Georgia?

6'1" guard.

Suaveness
06-24-2004, 11:42 PM
Tinsley's backup.

kerosene
06-24-2004, 11:46 PM
I like the Harrison pick. It's the 29th pick, what do you expect? If the guy didn't have warts he would've gone much higher.

The Dampier comparison seems apt. I've said that elsewhere and think it's applicable. Send him down to Florida to train where Al, Tins, etc. do. Get him in shape.

zxc
06-25-2004, 12:18 AM
http://www.nba.com/pacers/news/news_harrison_040624.html

Well, lofty goals indeed I guess. If he really is motivated could be a real solid pick.

ďMy work ethic has been questioned,Ē he said, ďbut Iím going to come in there and show them Iím the hardest-working player theyíve ever drafted.Ē

MagicRat
06-25-2004, 12:25 AM
http://www.hoopshype.com/draft/david_harrison.htm

If he was coming straight out of HS in this draft with that size and those credentials, he would've been a lottery pick......

Hoop
06-25-2004, 12:26 AM
Wonder what the over - under is for Harrison playing more minutes next season than Darko. :devil:

Looks around for Kstat :zip:

Hoop
06-25-2004, 03:03 AM
More Info:

Career to date: A McDonald's All-American, a first-team Parade All-American and the Tennessee Gatorade Player of the Year in 2001. Averaged 28.5 points, 13.1 rebounds and 5.6 blocks during his senior season. Holds the state of Tennessee's record for most points in game and career. Ranked as the nation's No. 3 center prospect, behind Tyson Chandler and Sagana Diop, both drafted in the NBA with the fourth and eighth selections, respectively, as high school seniors. Played defensive end and tight end in football as a sophomore. Was the center of a heated recruiting battle between CU, Vanderbilt, Duke and North Carolina. Garnered Big 12 All-Freshman team and Big 12 honorable mention in 2001-02. Team's leading scorer at 13.9 points per game. Also averaged 7.0 rebounds per game. Third nationally in field goal percentage (63.8) while leading the Big 12. That number was the best field goal percentage in a single season in school history. As a sophomore, averaged 13.9 points, 8.8 rebounds and 3.3 blocked shots, which ranked eighth nationally. Earned All-Big 12 coaches honorable mention and named to Big 12 specialty team as one of five most improved players. A preseason all-American and all-Big 12 candidate as a junior. One of 50 players selected to the preseason 2003-04 Wooden Award All-American Team.

Scouting Report: One of the top big men in the country ... Exploits his physical ability fully for good production value ... A monster on offensive boards ... Beats his man down the floor and is adept at getting good position ... Well conditioned and likes to run ... Falls for the head fake easy ... Needs to keep the ball higher on offense, he gets stripped too often heading to the basket ... His hands need help and his wingspan is short considering his height ... Slow reaction time on rebounds ... Not a lot of explosiveness, but agile, can power inside and has the stroke from deep ... Possesses great strength.

Stat Stuffer: Notched double-digits in scoring 22 times as a freshman, including 18 straight times. Recorded a triple-double in a win over Nebraska as a sophomore. Tallied 20 points, 10 rebounds and set a school record with 11 blocked shots. Had a triple-double earlier in the year vs. Stetson with 31 points, 17 rebounds and 10 blocks. Also had 29 points vs. North Texas and 18 rebounds vs. Georgia.

Fun Fact: Harrison's father, David, Sr., is a former NFL player and current Vanderbilt assistant coach. David, Sr., and his wife, Ida, chose names for their 12 children that began with either a "D" or an "I" David, Danielle, D.J., Dianne, Daniel, Della, Dee Dee, Dorie, Isaiah, Isabelle, Idette and Ian.

beast23
06-25-2004, 04:52 AM
Guys, it's a freakin' 29th pick in a weak draft.

What do you want? :shrug:Exactly.

The article says he could be a lottery pick if he were more mature. Sounds like his defensive abilities are already well developed. Sounds like he just needs a little personality adjustment.... okay maybe a big personality adjustment.

If nothing else, throw weights, workouts and carbs at him. Maybe we can end up with a 350# defensive monster. Then we can call him Shaq-lite.

Being the last pick of the first round, the kid will get a sniff of good money. That gives him 3 years to start improving his game and to get his head on straight. Hopefully, by then he will be willing to change a little in order to get his hands on some real money.

LAPacer
06-25-2004, 09:54 AM
I like the pick. Harrison looks like he might actually get meaningful minutes since he has some experience and isn't 6 years old like the rest of the draft.

BillS
06-25-2004, 10:13 AM
Man. No kidding, this must be an awful pick. We all know what happens to players drafted when they have a reputation for talking trash to fans, spitting on opponents, and being a head case no coach would really want.

Why did we ever draft that Reggie Miller kid, anyway?

Hicks
06-25-2004, 01:33 PM
BillS, did the scouting reports actually say Reggie was a headcase?

ChicagoJ
06-25-2004, 03:18 PM
BillS, did the scouting reports actually say Reggie was a headcase?

I don't know if 'headcase' was the word, but his 'spitting' incident, among others, while at UCLA was well-documented, and that seems to be comparable to this kid's nonsense with Kansas's fans.

Hicks
06-25-2004, 03:20 PM
Well in that case I guess there's hope for the lad.

Suaveness
06-25-2004, 03:40 PM
Ha I totally forgot Reggie used to be like that

Roy Munson
06-25-2004, 03:54 PM
I saw him play twice this past season. I remember thinking during both games that This Guy is Definitely an NBA Player.

Given a llittle time he will develop into a very usable big man. I don't know if he'll be a starter, but he will be a contributor.

The danger I see is that he may not accept not playing much early in his career and get frustrated. Many players can't handle going from collegiate star to NBA bench warmer.

SkipperZ
06-25-2004, 04:48 PM
Small hands and short arms for a big man are pretty bad things to have....

but looking at the rest of the board, there was no one else. I think for 29 its a good pick.

LAPacer
06-25-2004, 06:32 PM
Marvin should wear a "Harrison" jersey the next time he goes to a playoff game with Peyton.

MagicRat
06-26-2004, 11:58 PM
Just doing some research.....

http://www.basketballtimes.com/Archives/mccormick/mccormick3-20.htm

Off The Glass

The Dribble, Post Play and Bailing Out Bad Offense

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With all the early departures to the NBA, analysts bemoan the lack of quality big guys matriculating or staying beyond their freshman year. However, while channel surfing during the conference tournaments, I saw some dominating post play, a revelation since I thought post play was dead. I believed Kareem Abdul-Jabaar, who said the problem with college basketball (and American basketball) is that players can no longer play with their back to the basket; isnít that the knock on KG, that he isnít tough enough in the post, despite his 12 rebounds a game? Anyway, back to the college gameÖ

In one stretch, over three channels, I was treated to UConnís Emeka Okafor, Coloradoís David Harrison and USCís Rory OíNeil.............

As for Harrison, I saw five minutes of his game against Kansas State and thought I flipped by ESPN Classic, not the Deuce, and Tim Duncan in a Demon Deacon uniform. This is the first time I watched Harrison, but those five minutes were as solid as any I have seen in college basketball in years. With his wide shoulders, elbows out and a solid base, he was a man amongst boys, throwing his weight around, while emulating a Duncan turn-and-face backboard jumper and a classic McHale up-and-under move. His game looked NBA-ready, and he is too good in the post to last long in the draft with so many post-deprived NBA teams.............

Hicks
06-27-2004, 12:15 AM
Nice find, MagicRat. I hope we can keep finding stuff on the guy until we can see him for ourselves.

Snickers
06-27-2004, 12:23 AM
It sounds like his game is NBA ready, and the only knock against him is his attitude/work ethic. With guys like Bird and Carlisle watching over him, those things should no longer be an issue.

That said, I'm sticking to the approach I take to judging all people: Once I see what he can do in a Pacers jersey, I'll decide what I think of him.

I really need to stop doing that with prospective girlfriends though. :(

Natston
06-27-2004, 03:46 AM
I really need to stop doing that with prospective girlfriends though. :(

I know what you mean. It's hard enough to get women out of their clothes, let alone getting them to put other clothes on... :cry:

Pig Nash
06-27-2004, 03:48 AM
I really need to stop doing that with prospective girlfriends though. :(

I know what you mean. It's hard enough to get women out of their clothes, let alone getting them to put other clothes on... :cry:



:applaud:

MSA2CF
06-27-2004, 09:02 AM
Sorry JJ BWMs, but David & Rashad will play more than JJ this season, but that's just MO.

Snickers
06-27-2004, 01:38 PM
Sorry JJ BWMs, but David & Rashad will play more than JJ this season, but that's just MO.

Not if all our other SFs are traded. :devil:

MSA2CF
06-27-2004, 01:43 PM
Not if all our other SFs are traded. :devil:


That brings up a good point. SF stands for small forward, does it not? I've seen it stand for "shooting forward" in some places and I like that better. Which is it, technically?

Hicks
06-27-2004, 01:44 PM
small forward

Eindar
06-27-2004, 02:04 PM
I saw him play against Texas Tech last season. I liked him, but at the time I was far more interested in the guard matchup of Morandais vs. Emmett. Sufficed to say, considering I was looking at guards, and still noticed Harrison, but thought he'd be drafted before we had a chance, he's a good pick at the end of the 1st round.

On a related note, we should bring Morandais into camp. He's a good shooter, is quick, and seems fundamentally sound.

Eindar
06-27-2004, 02:10 PM
Sorry JJ BWMs, but David & Rashad will play more than JJ this season, but that's just MO.

I find that hard to believe. I mean, after all, who's going to back-up Bender when we trade Artest and Harrington? :P

Snickers
06-27-2004, 02:24 PM
Sorry JJ BWMs, but David & Rashad will play more than JJ this season, but that's just MO.

I find that hard to believe. I mean, after all, who's going to back-up Bender when we trade Artest and Harrington? :P

Exactly. :flirt:

And you're right, Morandais is solid. I expected him to go somewhere around #40.

DisplacedKnick
06-28-2004, 10:00 AM
You guys are way too negative. I mean, it's not like you picked Frederic Weiss! (grumble)

Pretty fair for a 29 pick though being stuck with him 3 years if he flops isn't great.

Suaveness
06-28-2004, 11:14 AM
Sorry JJ BWMs, but David & Rashad will play more than JJ this season, but that's just MO.

I find that hard to believe. I mean, after all, who's going to back-up Bender when we trade Artest and Harrington? :P


Unless Artest isn't traded :flirt: