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flox
01-23-2009, 10:41 PM
A few days ago the blog Wages of Wins Journal had an interesting topic about the Pacers... (http://dberri.wordpress.com/2009/01/18/hope-in-last-place/#more-1164)


Below is an excerpt.


If we look over this roster we see that Troy Murphy, Jeff Foster, and T.J. Ford all post WP48 marks beyond what we see from Granger. And if we look at last yearís numbers, we see that Mike Dunleavy - who just returned from injury - is also capable of putting up numbers beyond what we see from Granger.
After 152 minutes, though, Dunleavy hasnít yet returned to the form we saw last year. If he does, though, itís quite possible that the Pacers will make the teams ranked ahead of Indiana sweat a bit. Although itís unlikely given the Pacers current record of 15-25 that Indiana can finish in the playoffs, thereís certainly hope heading into next season.

Next season Indiana - like the Wizards - could field a starting line-up that consists entirely of above average players (Ford, Dunleavy, Granger, Murphy, Foster). And that line-up - if on the court the entire season - could contend for the playoffs in 2009-10.

theboyjwo
01-23-2009, 11:38 PM
this Wages of Win's stat rating doesn't take into account Clutchness of a player. When you need a basket none of the 4 players mention on the pacers with a possible exception to Dunleavy can get you basket when you absolutely need one. Also don't forget that the Pacers are 4th in rebounding, so Grangers below average rebounding and steals aren't really hurting the team. Your never going to see any of the other players consistently put up 25 a game.

Anthem
01-24-2009, 12:42 AM
What's WP48?

theboyjwo
01-24-2009, 12:49 AM
i think it just a per48min stats but its the wages of wins systems. Could be wrong though.

kester99
01-24-2009, 01:13 AM
Wins produced per 48. But how do they figure it? You could follow this link:

http://www.wagesofwins.com/CalculatingWinsProduced.html

But it is wicked complicated.

Trader Joe
01-24-2009, 04:00 AM
Wow, a lineup of above average players! That is some buzz marketing right there.

In fact we have our 2009-2010 slogan, "Your 2009-2010 Indiana Pacers: Above Average."

GrangerRanger
01-24-2009, 04:04 AM
this Wages of Win's stat rating doesn't take into account Clutchness of a player. When you need a basket none of the 4 players mention on the pacers with a possible exception to Dunleavy can get you basket when you absolutely need one. Also don't forget that the Pacers are 4th in rebounding, so Grangers below average rebounding and steals aren't really hurting the team. Your never going to see any of the other players consistently put up 25 a game.

Tj's clutch and Troy has hit some big threes (including a tip in off a granger miss to win a game against the lakers.) Granger has won more games then all 4 this year, but saying those four are un-clutch is like saying Dwayne Wade can't score out of a double team.

Trader Joe
01-24-2009, 04:05 AM
Foster isn't clutch.

He's more of a pants pooper as JayRedd so eloquently put it,

Anthem
01-24-2009, 10:25 AM
Tj's clutch and Troy has hit some big threes (including a tip in off a granger miss to win a game against the lakers.)
It was a Quis miss, not Granger.