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PacersFan
06-24-2004, 04:43 PM
I'm not sure how reliable DraftCity is but


The rumored trade involving the #7 pick and Al Harrington appears to be finalized, although anything can happen between the time of this writing and the draft. If the Pacers were to get the #7 pick they are rumored to be interested in Luke Jackson.

2004 Mock Draft (http://www.draftcity.com/mocks/2004.htm)

Grant
06-24-2004, 04:44 PM
:nervous:

Unclebuck
06-24-2004, 04:44 PM
I have don't have any inside info, but I tend to think the pacers will trade AL for Luke Jackson tonight

DisplacedKnick
06-24-2004, 04:44 PM
I'm not sure how reliable DraftCity is but


The rumored trade involving the #7 pick and Al Harrington appears to be finalized, although anything can happen between the time of this writing and the draft. If the Pacers were to get the #7 pick they are rumored to be interested in Luke Jackson.

2004 Mock Draft (http://www.draftcity.com/mocks/2004.htm)

Smarter move, if that's who the Pacers really want, would be for Chicago to draft Jackson and then make the deal, in case he'd already be gone.

Hicks
06-24-2004, 04:46 PM
I have don't have any inside info, but I tend to think the pacers will trade AL for Luke Jackson tonight

Same here.

Hicks
06-24-2004, 04:46 PM
I'm not sure how reliable DraftCity is but


The rumored trade involving the #7 pick and Al Harrington appears to be finalized, although anything can happen between the time of this writing and the draft. If the Pacers were to get the #7 pick they are rumored to be interested in Luke Jackson.

2004 Mock Draft (http://www.draftcity.com/mocks/2004.htm)

Smarter move, if that's who the Pacers really want, would be for Chicago to draft Jackson and then make the deal, in case he'd already be gone.

I'd imagine that's how it's setup. Meaning if he's gone, the deal's off.

indytoad
06-24-2004, 04:46 PM
Or they could make the trade right after the sixth pick, right?

Same difference anyway.

IndyToad
Gordon finish!

Dr Huxtable
06-24-2004, 04:47 PM
Yea, I agree that whoever picks Luke they will trade Al for him. Because really theres no guarantee they will get him at the 7th pick. Only in the top 5 is there a real guarantee.

ROCislandWarrior
06-24-2004, 04:47 PM
NO! :banghead:

I can't believe that Larry and DW would just lay out the blue-prints like this?

There has to be a catch, someone (LB and DW) is not telling the truth.
Why would we grab yet another young gun and give up our 6th man? Are we not trying to win it all next year?

Suaveness
06-24-2004, 04:48 PM
I am worried. Do they think this is going to get us over the hump to the finals? I don't know.

Dr Huxtable
06-24-2004, 04:50 PM
Guys, it was proven last night that Al doesn't show up in when he's needed in he playoffs.

I do think we can do better for Al, and hopefully Tyson Chandler is included.

ROCislandWarrior
06-24-2004, 04:50 PM
I am worried. Do they think this is going to get us over the hump to the finals? I don't know.

Exactly... If this does indeed happen, I will have mixed emotions

rabid
06-24-2004, 04:50 PM
If this is true it's idiotic. ESPECIALLY if Ron gets traded.

6th man of the year candidate, 3rd leading scorer on the team, for an unproven rookie that will take a few years to develop, even if he IS good.

:rolleyes: :neutral:

diego
06-24-2004, 04:50 PM
NO! :banghead:

I can't believe that Larry and DW would just lay out the blue-prints like this?

There has to be a catch, someone (LB and DW) is not telling the truth.
Why would we grab yet another young gun and give up our 6th man? Are we not trying to win it all next year?

I guess i dont understand why this is so hard to understand. They feel Bender will become the 6th man and probably be better than Al....Al wants to start and want to be traded so he can be. Plus it clears out a log jam there. In an ideal world Al would be happy with his role and accept it, but he isnt. I also dont think by just losing Al, it will affect us not winning a ring, even if we bring in another young player.

Zesty
06-24-2004, 04:51 PM
I've learned to put faith in DW (and as such, LB) until I have tangible evidence to prove that they have made a poor decision.

rabid
06-24-2004, 04:52 PM
I guess i dont understand why this is so hard to understand. They feel Bender will become the 6th man and probably be better than Al....Al wants to start and want to be traded so he can be. Plus it clears out a log jam there. In an ideal world Al would be happy with his role and accept it, but he isnt. I also dont think by just losing Al, it will affect us not winning a ring, even if we bring in another young player.

I see your point, but we should be able to get more than that for AL. Especially when we have all summer to wheel-and-deal.

Dr Huxtable
06-24-2004, 04:52 PM
for an unproven rookie that will take a few years to develop, even if he IS good.

He's more proven than a player right out of high school though.

Remember, he was a senior that autmatically gives him some upside compared to an 18 year old.

Unclebuck
06-24-2004, 04:54 PM
I am worried. Do they think this is going to get us over the hump to the finals? I don't know.

Exactly... If this does indeed happen, I will have mixed emotions


This might sound crazy, but I don't think a GM can have that narrow of a view of thngs. If Bird believes that Jackson is the answer for us at shooting guard for the next 10 years then it is a good trade.

For example if in 1987 when the pacers drafted Reggie...if they had to trade their 6th man to get him, looking back the pacers would have been stupid not to

GM's have to lookdown the road a little bit.


it all depends on how good Jackson is going to be

ROCislandWarrior
06-24-2004, 04:55 PM
NO! :banghead:

I can't believe that Larry and DW would just lay out the blue-prints like this?

There has to be a catch, someone (LB and DW) is not telling the truth.
Why would we grab yet another young gun and give up our 6th man? Are we not trying to win it all next year?

I guess i dont understand why this is so hard to understand. They feel Bender will become the 6th man and probably be better than Al....Al wants to start and want to be traded so he can be. Plus it clears out a log jam there. In an ideal world Al would be happy with his role and accept it, but he isnt. I also dont think by just losing Al, it will affect us not winning a ring, even if we bring in another young player.

I realize that we need to clear out our logjam and I am all for trading Al, you addressed the wrong issue.

MagicRat
06-24-2004, 04:57 PM
If this is true it's idiotic. ESPECIALLY if Ron gets traded.

6th man of the year candidate, 3rd leading scorer on the team, for an unproven rookie that will take a few years to develop, even if he IS good.

:rolleyes: :neutral:

Come on...think back to the AD-Bender deal...Everyone hated it then...and now......well, maybe they still hate it........:whoknows:

diego
06-24-2004, 04:57 PM
We also need to realize Al is not worth as much as most here think he is. We over value our players a lot which is human tendency. AD was traded for the 5th pick and his value to the team at the time was about the same as Als. Almost identical situations.

diego
06-24-2004, 04:57 PM
NO! :banghead:

I can't believe that Larry and DW would just lay out the blue-prints like this?

There has to be a catch, someone (LB and DW) is not telling the truth.
Why would we grab yet another young gun and give up our 6th man? Are we not trying to win it all next year?

I guess i dont understand why this is so hard to understand. They feel Bender will become the 6th man and probably be better than Al....Al wants to start and want to be traded so he can be. Plus it clears out a log jam there. In an ideal world Al would be happy with his role and accept it, but he isnt. I also dont think by just losing Al, it will affect us not winning a ring, even if we bring in another young player.

I realize that we need to clear out our logjam and I am all for trading Al, you addressed the wrong issue.



what issue do you want me to address.

Suaveness
06-24-2004, 04:59 PM
I am worried. Do they think this is going to get us over the hump to the finals? I don't know.

Exactly... If this does indeed happen, I will have mixed emotions


This might sound crazy, but I don't think a GM can have that narrow of a view of thngs. If Bird believes that Jackson is the answer for us at shooting guard for the next 10 years then it is a good trade.

For example if in 1987 when the pacers drafted Reggie...if they had to trade their 6th man to get him, looking back the pacers would have been stupid not to

GM's have to lookdown the road a little bit.


it all depends on how good Jackson is going to be

True, we have to look down the road, but in 1987 we weren't a near Finals team. This is that team, and if we don't get into the Finals, or at least closer, it will be viewed as a disappointment. Especially considering we are losing a major presence off the bench.

Another question I wonder is what we do with 3 SGs.

DisplacedKnick
06-24-2004, 05:01 PM
If this deal happens it means the Pacers are banking heavily on Bender. Considering he doesn't seem able to stay healthy it's a risk.

But they need a SG more than a spare SF. Could be interesting days.

ROCislandWarrior
06-24-2004, 05:06 PM
NO! :banghead:

I can't believe that Larry and DW would just lay out the blue-prints like this?

There has to be a catch, someone (LB and DW) is not telling the truth.
Why would we grab yet another young gun and give up our 6th man? Are we not trying to win it all next year?

I guess i dont understand why this is so hard to understand. They feel Bender will become the 6th man and probably be better than Al....Al wants to start and want to be traded so he can be. Plus it clears out a log jam there. In an ideal world Al would be happy with his role and accept it, but he isnt. I also dont think by just losing Al, it will affect us not winning a ring, even if we bring in another young player.

I realize that we need to clear out our logjam and I am all for trading Al, you addressed the wrong issue.



what issue do you want me to address.

I realize that Al will most likely be traded. It is just...I want him to be traded for someone who can help right now. Can a rookie do that for this club? Why not trade Al for a proven NBA player?

Then by getting rid of Al, you place alot of pressure on Bender (health issues concern all of us) and that Rookie to perform in a way they never have before. Atleast if we get a proven player, we know what to expect.

diego
06-24-2004, 05:22 PM
The thing you have to remember is we are still young. And yes you can go get a veteran, but whos out there that would be worth Al. To get anyone really good it would take tearing the team apart. My point is gettign a vet doesnt mean its going to help anymore than just keeping Al. But getting for example a Jackson and lets say in 1-2 years proves to be a stud, then we basically got better value for AL.

My point was people are complaning about a pick not being value for Al, but IMO a vet that is not a star is jsut as bad if not worse.

BigMac
06-24-2004, 08:11 PM
I don't want Luol Deng!!!!


Period.

Shade
06-24-2004, 08:15 PM
Nope. :p

ROCislandWarrior
06-24-2004, 08:16 PM
If Luke Jackson goes at #10, something may be up

Suaveness
06-24-2004, 08:32 PM
And he does.


But Silas says he wants him.

ROCislandWarrior
06-24-2004, 08:39 PM
I think I just burst a vessel in my brain.