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Jose Slaughter
01-01-2009, 09:15 AM
Hi ya

I've made a couple of attempts in the past to do something along this line but I never really found I proper way to present the info. I guess the third times the charm. I plan on updating this thread daily for the entire year, each day presenting a small piece of Pacer history.

I used several sources for the information that will be in this thread.

Basketball Reference.com has a ton of information.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/

Professional Basketball Transactions Archive This site is nothing short of amazing.
http://www.prosportstransactions.com/basketball/

Remeber the ABA.com How could you talk Pacer history without this site?
http://www.remembertheaba.com/

I also have a copy of the Pacers Media Guide that was used very frequently.

Wikipedia helped with info on what players might be up to today.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

NBA Hoops on Line was used, but not to the extent as the others.
http://www.nbahoopsonline.com/

Along the way I hope you find this entertaining and informative.

Your thoughts and stories of all things Pacers are more than welcome.

Well, lets give this a shot & see how it plays out.

Today is January 1st, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers have played just 2 games on New Years Day. An ABA loss in San Diego in 1975 & an NBA win at Utah in 1985.

There were 2 Pacers born on January 1st.

Travis Grant in 1950.
Grant was 6-7, 215 from Kentucky State & played just one year in Indiana, the final ABA season of 75-76. Grant averaged 9.6 points, 2.9 boards & 16.6 minutes in 34 games.

Leroy Combs in 1961.
Combs was 6-8, 210 from Oklahoma State & also played just a single season as a Pacer, 83-84. Averaging 4.5 points, 1.1 boards & 9.3 minutes in 48 games

I found 2 Pacer tranaction for January 1st.

In 1972 we signed free agent Bob Arnzen
In 1987 we signed free agent Michael Brooks

That's it for day 1, see ya tomorrow!

RamBo_Lamar
01-01-2009, 02:56 PM
You are making a tremendous effort by doing this JS - thank you so much!

Am looking forward to following your postings on these historical events, and am sure
they will help bring back alot of great memories.

Hicks
01-01-2009, 04:05 PM
Good idea to have it this way.

Jonathan
01-01-2009, 04:11 PM
Thank You for this. I am huge fan of history and the Pacers.

Jose Slaughter
01-02-2009, 01:35 AM
Today is January 2nd, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 12-10 in games played on this date.

Happy Birthday

Ed Manning 1944
Manning was 6-8, 215 from Jackson State & played just one year as a Pacer. Manning averaged 5.3 points, 3 rebounds & 11.1 minutes in just 11 games during the final ABA season of 75-76. Manning has an even more famous son, Danny.

The Pacers have one regular season team record for this date.

On January 2nd, 1991 the Pacers scored a franchise record 45 1st quarter points in a game against the San Antonio Spurs.

Since its kind of a slow day in Pacer history I think I'll share some odd info. I'll do this from time to time when theres not much to report.

Today, its Pacers by the Numbers.

There are 7 players in Pacer history that have worn jersey #1.

Roger Brown was the first. He chose it when he came back to the Pacers in 1975 because Charlie Edge was using his old #35.

Bo Lamar wore #1 during the following season, 75-76.

Freddie Lewis switched from #14 when he returned for the 76-77 season.

Ron Behegan was next during the 77-78 season.

Steven Jackson picked it for his 3 year stint from 04-07.

Ike Diogu took Jacksons number when they were involved in the same trade finishing out the 07 season.

Jarrett Jack picked up the #1 uni this season following his trade from Portland.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

count55
01-02-2009, 08:05 AM
Freddie Lewis also wore #1 for one season here in 1977.

Jose Slaughter
01-02-2009, 09:56 AM
Thanks for the catch Count, I made the correction.

duke dynamite
01-02-2009, 10:36 AM
Nice job, Jose!

BostonConnection
01-02-2009, 11:14 AM
Jose, this thread is a great idea! Kudos for taking the initiative to add more personalized content to the forum. :)

Jose Slaughter
01-03-2009, 02:08 AM
Today is January 3rd, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 11-11 in games played on January 3rd.

No birthdays, transaction or team records to report for today so we'll go with a couple different pieces of trivia.

In Pacers by the numbers......

Butch Joyner played just 2 games during the 68-69 season & is the only Pacer to not have a uniform number listed.

In the My Old School department......

Indiana University has given us more Pacers than anyother college, 10.

Tom Abernethy
Damon Bailey
Quinn Buckner
Butch Carter
Butch Joyner
George McGinnis
Wayne Radford
Jim Rayl
Jim Thomas
Randy Wittman

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Hicks
01-03-2009, 12:10 PM
And if you count coaches, I believe Slick Leonard was a Hoosier (player), too.

Bball
01-03-2009, 12:20 PM
And if you count coaches, I believe Slick Leonard was a Hoosier (player), too.

He was and won an NCAA championship with the Hoosiers too.... hitting a big FT to finish the game.

He's told the story (that I will paraphrase here) that someone said he had ice water in his veins on the FT line of the championship game and he replied "Well, it sure felt warm running down my leg!"

-Bball

Skaut_Ech
01-03-2009, 12:22 PM
James?

:thankyou: :king: :lurk:

idioteque
01-03-2009, 01:15 PM
I really enjoy this thread. Thanks, Jose.

rexnom
01-03-2009, 01:46 PM
Thank You for this. I am huge fan of history and the Pacers.
I also like both history and the Pacers. This is very interesting.

xtacy
01-03-2009, 04:50 PM
thanks jose. great idea! great thread!

Jose Slaughter
01-04-2009, 01:53 AM
Today is January 4th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 14-10 in games played on January 4th.

Happy Birthday

Mel Bennett 1955
Bennett was 6-7, 200 from Pittsburgh & played 98 games over the 76-77 & 77-78 seasons. Averaging 4.0 points, 3.4 rebounds in 12.2 per game. Bennett is currently coaching high school basketball in New Jersey.

On this date in 1982 the Pacers waived Raymond Townsend. Townsend was the 81-82 version of Courtney Sims, being signed & waived twice, this time was the last time for Ray.

In 1995 the Pacers scored just 9 4th quarter points aginast Washington, a club record low for the 4th quarter that they tied on March 29th of 1998 against San Antonio & again December 18th of 2004 verus Chicago.

In 2005, Jermaine O'Neal set a franchise record with 25 free throw attempts in a game against the Milwaukee Bucks.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
01-05-2009, 03:25 AM
Today is January 5th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are an impressive 16-7

Happy Birthday

Rick Mount 1947
Mount was 6-4, 185 from Purdue and was with the Pacers during the 70-71 & 71-72 seasons. In 144 games Mount averaged 10.8 points, 1.6 rebounds & 2.3 assist in 20.5 minutes a game. Today Mount runs basketball shooting instructional school in Lebonon.

Alex English 1954
English was 6-7, 190 from South Carolina & was with the Pacers during the 78-79 & 79-80 seasons. English averaged 15.6 points on 50.8% shooting, 7.7 rebounds & 3 assist in 31.2 minutes per game for the 135 contest he appeared in. English was an 8 times NBA All-Star, won the scoring title with a 28.4 average in the 82-83 season & was elected to the Basketball Hall of Fame in 1997. Today he's an assistant coach with the Toronto Raptors.

On this date in 1984 Clark Kellogg was re-signed.

On this date in 1989 Dick Versace was hired to replace George Irvine as head coach. To this day many ponder if that was a step forward or back.

On this date in 2006 Samaki Walker was waived.

The Pacers set a couple of franchise, regular season records on this date in 1987 against the Dallas Mavericks. The most assist in an game, 45 & the highest FG%, .653. We were 64-98 in the game.

We also set a Pacers, NBA record in that same game with the most FG made, 64. The Club record was set in the ABA with 73, but thats a record for another day.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jonathan
01-05-2009, 10:28 AM
I went to Taylor Basketball camp as a kid in Upland Indiana. Rick Mount was a shooting instructor @ the camp and a big time jerk. He had a son name Richie that died in a fire years later. I read in Sport Illustrated that he mellowed out and was helping out with the Lebanon girls team.

Skaut_Ech
01-05-2009, 11:37 AM
I forgot about Samaki. This thread should be good for bringing back stuff I'd kinda forgotten. Good old Dick and the "have fun" campaign.

Los Angeles
01-05-2009, 11:58 AM
This will be my only post in this thread, but I will be checking on it religiously.

Jose is da man. :rock:

Justin Tyme
01-05-2009, 05:46 PM
Mount 2.3 assist in 20.5 minutes a game.


I was surprised to see he averaged that many assists.

Jose Slaughter
01-05-2009, 07:35 PM
I was surprised to see he averaged that many assists.

I think when he realized he couldn't shoot in the pros (.421 career & .309 3pt FG) he decided to pass instead.

While I'm here I'd like to thank everyone for their kind words.

I'd also like to encourage those who have a memory or two stirred by mention of a player, transaction or record to please share we all of us.

I'm hoping this thread doesn't turn into a "happy birthday & did you know" thread. That would be just as boring for me as it would be everyone else.

Your stories, comments & insight are needed here just as much as any thread on our forum.

Thanks again

Jose

Jose Slaughter
01-06-2009, 01:26 AM
Today is January 6th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 10-13 in games played on this date.

Absolutly nothing happened, see ya tomorrow.

Seriously, no birthdays, transactions or records of any kind. There's 4 more days like this in January so if nothing else we can get caught up on a little Pacer trivia.

Lets go ahead & do another Pacers by the Numbers

There have been 6 players in Pacer history that have worn jersey #2

Ralph Jackson played just 1 game late in 1984 & was outta here.

Vincent Askew was with the team briefly in late 96 & ealry 97.

Tyus Edney played here during the 2000-2001 season.

Jamison Brewer made it 3 seasons with uni #2. From 01-02 thru 03-04.

Marcus Haislip was here for about 3 weeks in December of 04.

Rawle Marshall was the last to wear #2 during the 06-07 season.

I think we have time for another round of My Old School.

We already fround out that more Pacer players came from Indiana University than anyother college. Next on the list is UCLA with 7.

Tyus Edney
Stuart Gray
Ralph Jackson
Reggie Miller
Pooh Richardson
Mike Sanders
Raymond Townsend

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
01-07-2009, 12:44 AM
Today is January 7th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 7-6 in games played on this date & the last time we played on a January 7th was 1997, a 95-90 home win against the Cavs.

Happy Birthday

Marquis Daniels 1981
Daniels is listed as 6-6, 200 from Auburn. In his 3rd season in Indiana, Daniels is averaging 9.3 points & 3.0 rebounds in 22.5 minutes per game for the 150 games hes played to date as a Pacer.

I found this on Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquis_Daniels

Daniels is noted for having several tattoos inscribed on different parts of his body. The tattoos range from an extremely detailed map of Florida that covers his entire back, a disturbing caricature of a man blowing his head with a shotgun on his lower right arm, and Chinese characters on his other arm which were apparently intended to represent his initials, but when translated into English, it actually reads "big women standing on the roof".

On this date in 1983 the Pacers received cash & other considerations from the Portland Trailblazers for signing Pacer free agent Don Buse.

In todays Odd Pacer Fact

According to the Pacers Media Guide there have been just 3 players under 6 foot tall that have played for Indiana.

Tyus Edney & Billy Keller were listed as 5'10", Travis Best at 5'11"

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Slick Pinkham
01-07-2009, 11:26 AM
thanks James for a great thread.

I think that the pacers were a little generous in listing Freddie Lewis as 6'0". In my memory he and Billy Kellar were pretty close in height.

except for the hair...look at those arms though!

http://www.remembertheaba.com/TributeMaterial/PlayerMaterial/FreddieLewis/LewisFreeThrowCloseup2.jpg

Justin Tyme
01-07-2009, 11:34 AM
Isn't the height listed for TJ Ford at 6' a little generous?

Hicks
01-07-2009, 11:42 AM
He and Diener are both closer to my height, which is about 5'10".

Jose Slaughter
01-08-2009, 01:03 AM
Today is January 8th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 11-10 in games played on January 8th.

Happy Birthday

Calvin Natt 1957
Natt was listed as 6-6, 220 from Northeast Louisianna. Natt appeared in just 14 games during the 89-90 season averaging 4.1 points on .645% shooting & 2.5 rebounds in 11.7 minutes per game. Natt made the All-Star game in 1985 as a Denver Nuggets. He also now makes Denver his home & in now an ordained minister. Natt is also the brother of former Pacer & current Kings coach, Kenny Natt.

Kevin McKenna 1959
McKenna was 6-7, 205 from Creighton. K-Mc was also a one year Pacer, appearing in 61 games during the 83-84 season with averages of 6.3 points, 1.5 rebounds & 1.8 assist in 15.1 minutes per game. Today, McKenna is the head coach of Indiana State.

Granville Waiters 1961
Waiters was 6-11, 220 from Ohio State & played in 140 games during the 83-84 & 84-85 seasons. Granny averaged 3.4 points & 2.8 rebounds in 12.4 minutes per game. Waiters is currently working to better the youth of his home town of Columbus Ohio as well as working on health conditions in Sub-Saraha Africa.

Here is a link to his web site
http://www.granvillewaiters.com/index.htm

No transaction or records were set on this date.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
01-09-2009, 12:31 AM
Today is January 9th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 10-11 in games played on January 9th

No birthdays, transactions or records to mention today so we'll give you one little piece of Pacers trivia.

There have been 12 former players that have gone on to be head coaches in the NBA. Some of them briefly, some successful, some not. Most are currently in other lines of work but four still roam the sidelines.

Yes, I'm stalling!

Ok, here's the list.

Quinn Buckner
Butch Carter
Michael Curry
Mel Daniels
Johnny Davis
Kenny Natt
Sidney Lowe
Sam Mitchell
Byron Scott
Scott Skiles
Herb Williams
Randy Wittman

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

travmil
01-09-2009, 01:16 PM
Daniels is noted for having several tattoos inscribed on different parts of his body. The tattoos range from an extremely detailed map of Florida that covers his entire back, a disturbing caricature of a man blowing his head with a shotgun on his lower right arm, and Chinese characters on his other arm which were apparently intended to represent his initials, but when translated into English, it actually reads "big women standing on the roof" .

Someone needs a new nickname...

Jose Slaughter
01-10-2009, 01:30 AM
Today is January 10th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 9-10 in games played on this date.

On this date in 1975 Wayne Pack was waived, ending his 21 game Pacer career.

On this date in 1985 Kenton Edelin signed a 10 day contract after being waived less than 3 months earlier.

On this date in 1987 Peter Verhoeven was waived after just 5 games in a Pacer uni.

Time for another My old School.

Following IU with 10 & UCLA with 7, there are 2 colleges that have given us 6 Pacers. The first of these is Georgia Tech.

Kenny Anderson
Travis Best
Duane Ferrell
Brook Steppe
Phil Wagner
Jarrett Jack

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

El Pacero
01-10-2009, 01:44 AM
Interesting Georgia Tech trivia, thanks for taking my mind off the Lakers loss. Great thread.

RamBo_Lamar
01-10-2009, 12:05 PM
Some of this trivia Jose Slaughter is seemingly able to pull out of thin air is almost unbeleivable.

The man is truly a living Pacers encyclopedia!


:king:

Slick Pinkham
01-10-2009, 12:20 PM
Following IU with 10 & UCLA with 7, there are 2 colleges that have given us 6 Pacers. The first of these is Georgia Tech.



Hmmm... without looking it up, I'd guess the other is Purdue, but I can only think of 5:

Billy Keller
Rick Mount
Brad Miller
Tom Scheffler
Jerry Sichting

and???

Slick Pinkham
01-10-2009, 12:30 PM
OK, I was curious and had to cheat.

http://www.basketballreference.com/players/bycollege.htm?sch=Purdue+University

Tom Scheffler was drafted by the Pacers but never played for them. Everette Stevens did, as did Kyle Macy (who transferred from Purdue to Kentucky)

so depending on how you count it, Purdue gave us seven players but we tossed one away.

Jose Slaughter
01-10-2009, 12:53 PM
OK, I was curious and had to cheat.

http://www.basketballreference.com/players/bycollege.htm?sch=Purdue+University

Tom Scheffler was drafted by the Pacers but never played for them. Everette Stevens did, as did Kyle Macy (who transferred from Purdue to Kentucky)

so depending on how you count it, Purdue gave us seven players but we tossed one away.


There's one in every crowd! :-p:D

Purdue is not the other school with 6, but you're real close.

I didn't go thru & count the players that we drafted but didn't make the team & I also didn't consider college transfers.

The drafted players that didn't make the roster will get mentioned later in the year, the college transfer list is a little above my pay scale.

Jose Slaughter
01-11-2009, 01:29 AM
Today is January 11th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 15-10 in games played on this date.

On this date in 2003 Chuck Person was hired as an Assistant to the President & College Scout.

In a catagory that I'm going to call Thanks for the coffee, can I keep the jersey, there have been a number of players that have came thru town but made only brief appearences on the court. To get into this club a player would have played in 2 games or less, or a 3rd game if his total minutes played was less than 15.

There are 3 players that made it onto the court just 3 times in their Pacer career.

Lari Ketner in the 2000-2001 season played a total of 7 minutes in 3 games, managing to get an assist but committing 2 turnover.

Norm Richardson during the 2001-2002 season Richardson played in just 3 games totaling just 4 minutes, missing all 3 of his shots but getting a rebound & an assist.

Courtney Sims just last season, 07-08, Sims managed 2 rebounds & an assist in his 11 minute, 3 game Pacer career.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

idioteque
01-11-2009, 12:50 PM
Lari Ketner I have no memory of, but I remember Richardson a little bit and of course Sims.

This should be the thread of the year by the way and stickied after the calender year is over.

count55
01-11-2009, 01:44 PM
Lari Ketner I have no memory of, but I remember Richardson a little bit and of course Sims.

This should be the thread of the year by the way and stickied after the calender year is over.

I remember Lari Ketner...he was like a shorter Brent Scott...without the fade.

Jose Slaughter
01-12-2009, 01:02 AM
Today is January 12th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 9-7 in games played on January 12th.

Happy Birthday

Art Becker 1942
Becker was 6-8, 210 from Arizona State & was with the Pacers during the 69-70 & 70-71 seasons. In his 133 games he averaged 8.8 points while shooting .512 from the field with 4.5 rebounds in 17.6 minutes per game. Becker made 2 appearancs in the ABA All Star game, neither as a Pacer. The first in the 67-68 season, the 2nd in 71-72. Today Becker is president of the National Junior College Athletic Association.

On this date in 1984 the Pacers signed free agent Tracy Jackson.

On this date in 1987 the Pacers signed Michael Brooks to a 10 day contract.

On this date in 1974 George McGinnis set two franchise records in the same game. Most Offensive Rebounds, 16 & most Total Rebounds, 37 in a 124-105 home win against the Carolina Cougars.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

count55
01-12-2009, 08:01 AM
On this date in 1987 the Pacers signed Michael Brooks to a 10 day contract.

On this date in 1974 George McGinnis set two franchise records in the same game. Most Offensive Rebounds, 16 & most Total Rebounds, 37 in a 124-105 home win against the Carolina Cougars.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

I remember Michael Brooks...

Also, wasn't that Cougars game the one where Big Mac was more or less throwing it off the backboard to pad his OR stats? (I'm not sure if that's urban legend, a story about someone else that I'm misattributing to George, or it actually happened.)

cinotimz
01-12-2009, 09:00 AM
I remember Michael Brooks...

Also, wasn't that Cougars game the one where Big Mac was more or less throwing it off the backboard to pad his OR stats? (I'm not sure if that's urban legend, a story about someone else that I'm misattributing to George, or it actually happened.)

You arent misattributing. That was the game. And Big Mac was definitely padding things a bit. Even his teammates put up some suspicious misses.

Jose Slaughter
01-13-2009, 01:06 AM
Today is January 13th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 9-8 in games played on this date.

Today is another of those rare dates where we have no birthdays, transactions or records to report, so lets do another Pacers by the Numbers.

This time lets look at who has worn jersey #3.

Kenny Natt Listed as playing during the 80-81 season, Natt was waived in December of 1980.

Russ Schoene The Pacers Media Guide list him wearing #3 some internet sites have him wearing #40. Schoene played the last part of the 82-83 season.

Scott Skiles Skiles was here for the 87-88 & 88-89 seasons.

Haywoode Workman Woody played here 4 seasons & was injured for a 5th, from 93-94 thru 97-98.

Al Harrington Harrington played his first season using #25 & his last wearing #32 but between the 99-00 & 03-04 seasons, he was #3.

Tremaine Fowlkes Fowlkes was here for about 3 weeks in late 2004.

Sarunas Jasikevicius Sarunas came in at the start of 05-06 & was delt in the middle of the 06-07 season.

Troy Murphy Murphy came in when Sarunas was traded & has worn the number since.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Peck
01-13-2009, 02:26 AM
Today is January 13th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 9-8 in games played on this date.

Today is another of those rare dates where we have no birthdays, transactions or records to report, so lets do another Pacers by the Numbers.

This time lets look at who has worn jersey #3.

Kenny Natt Listed as playing during the 80-81 season, Natt was waived in December of 1980.

Russ Schoene The Pacers Media Guide list him wearing #3 some internet sites have him wearing #40. Schoene played the last part of the 82-83 season.

Scott Skiles Skiles was here for the 87-88 & 88-89 seasons.

Haywoode Workman Woody played here 4 seasons & was injured for a 5th, from 93-94 thru 97-98.

Al Harrington Harrington played his first season using #25 & his last wearing #32 but between the 99-00 & 03-04 seasons, he was #3.

Tremaine Fowlkes Fowlkes was here for about 3 weeks in late 2004.

Sarunas Jasikevicius Sarunas came in at the start of 05-06 & was delt in the middle of the 06-07 season.

Troy Murphy Murphy came in when Sarunas was traded & has worn the number since.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Russ came over with Terrance Stansberry if I recall correctly and I believe he wore #40.

Jose Slaughter
01-13-2009, 03:21 AM
Russ came over with Terrance Stansberry if I recall correctly and I believe he wore #40.

Close, Schoene & Stansbury were traded together to Seattle for John Long.

Stansbury came to the Pacers with Bill Garnett for a #1.

I'm hoping someone reading this has an old Media Guide from the 83-8 season. I remember Schoene but no way I could recall his uni number.

Peck
01-13-2009, 03:37 AM
Close, Schoene & Stansbury were traded together to Seattle for John Long.

Stansbury came to the Pacers with Bill Garnett for a #1.

I'm hoping someone reading this has an old Media Guide from the 83-8 season. I remember Schoene but no way I could recall his uni number.

Damn, I knew Stansbury was in there somehow. That is why this thread is litterally the best thread we have ever had. I totally forgot that we got John Long from Seattle.

Still think Schoene wore 40 though.

Jose Slaughter
01-13-2009, 08:38 AM
He might have worn 40 but when I found conflicting info I went with what was in the Media Guide.

I had the same problem with another player, Jim Thomas.

Thanks for the compliment too.

Slick Pinkham
01-13-2009, 10:42 AM
On this date in 1974 George McGinnis set two franchise records in the same game. Most Offensive Rebounds, 16 & most Total Rebounds, 37 in a 124-105 home win against the Carolina Cougars.


It was a Saturday afternoon game and I believe it was the very first Pacers game I ever attended.

There was some rebound stat-padding in the last minute or so, but he had 33 or so legit ones, and that's not too shabby.

Jose Slaughter
01-14-2009, 12:37 AM
Today is January 14th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 10-9 in games played on this date & are currently on a 5 game winning streak.

Today is another of those awful days when we have no birthdays, transactions or records to report. The good news is there is only one more of these between now & February 21st.

Lets do another round of My old School.

For those playing at home, which I guess would be everyone.... duh!

IU has given us the most Pacer players with 10, UCLA is next with 7 & we have a tie at 3rd with Georgia Tech & our next school with 6 each.

I'll list the players first, then tell you the college.

Maceo Baston
Oliver Darder
Ricky Green
Terry Mills
Jalen Rose
Courtney Sims

Yep, Michigan with 6 players is 4th on our list.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
01-15-2009, 12:59 AM
Today is January 15th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 10-15 in games played on this date.

Happy Birthday

Bobby Wilson 1951
Wilson. listed as 6-3, 180 from Wichita State played briefly for Indiana at the start of the 77-78 season. Appearing in just 12 games before being waived in early December of 77, Wilson averaged 2.5 points & 1 rebound in only 7.1 minutes a game. To be honest I don't remember him at all but I did find out he was born here in Indianapolis.

Ricky Sobers 1953
Sobers was 6-3, 198 out of UNLV played 2 years for Indiana, the 77-78 & 78-79 seasons. He averaged 17.8 points, 3.9 rebounds, 6.5 assist & 1.9 steals while playing 36.5 minutes per, for 160 games.

On this date in 1973, Mike Green was selected in the 1st round of a "Special Circumstances Draft".
Louis Dunbar was selected in the 2nd round of that same draft.

On this date in 1986 Quinn Buckner was waived & I can still recall Bobby Knights reaction!

On this date in 1990 the Pacers set a franchise NBA record with the most points in the 1st half with 86 in a 144-105 home win against the Golden State Warriors. Even back then they didn't play D!

On this date in 1993 the tables were turned. The Pacers gave up the most points to an NBA opponent in the 2nd half, 83, in a 132-120 home loss to the Cleveland Cavs. At least we held them to 50 in the first half.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Peck
01-15-2009, 02:49 AM
Today is January 15th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 10-15 in games played on this date.

Happy Birthday

Bobby Wilson 1951
Wilson. listed as 6-3, 180 from Wichita State played briefly for Indiana at the start of the 77-78 season. Appearing in just 12 games before being waived in early December of 77, Wilson averaged 2.5 points & 1 rebound in only 7.1 minutes a game. To be honest I don't remember him at all but I did find out he was born here in Indianapolis.

Ricky Sobers 1953
Sobers was 6-3, 198 out of UNLV played 2 years for Indiana, the 77-78 & 78-79 seasons. He averaged 17.8 points, 3.9 rebounds, 6.5 assist & 1.9 steals while playing 36.5 minutes per, for 160 games.

On this date in 1973, Mike Green was selected in the 1st round of a "Special Circumstances Draft".
Louis Dunbar was selected in the 2nd round of that same draft.

On this date in 1986 Quinn Buckner was waived & I can still recall Bobby Knights reaction!

On this date in 1990 the Pacers set a franchise NBA record with the most points in the 1st half with 86 in a 144-105 home win against the Golden State Warriors. Even back then they didn't play D!

On this date in 1993 the tables were turned. The Pacers gave up the most points to an NBA opponent in the 2nd half, 83, in a 132-120 home loss to the Cleveland Cavs. At least we held them to 50 in the first half.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!


Ricky Sobers and Johny Davis was my second favorite back court combo for the Pacers behind Reggie and Mark.

It's to bad that the young players never got to see Ricky in action, he was a pitbull

Jose Slaughter
01-15-2009, 02:52 AM
Too bad we couldn't have had Buse while Sobers was here. That would've been something to see!

BoomBaby33
01-15-2009, 12:59 PM
On this date in 1986 Quinn Buckner was waived & I can still recall Bobby Knights reaction!



I vaguely remember something about that now. I forgot Jose, how did the general react?

Jose Slaughter
01-15-2009, 02:00 PM
He wondered just who was running things up in Indy & what could they be thinking by doing something like waiving Quinn Buckner!

At the time IU was one of the better college programs in the country & the Pacers had struggled for more than a few years.

Just another example of someone with access to a mic mouthing off on something he had no knowledge about.

Jose Slaughter
01-16-2009, 01:20 AM
Today is January 16th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 10-9 in games played on this date.

Happy Birthday

Jeff Foster 1977
Foster is listed as 6-10, 250 from Texas State, in his 10th season as a Pacer, Foster has career averages of 5.1 points on .501 FG% & 7.0 rebounds in 21 minutes a game.

The 10 seasons played ties him with Dale Davis for 5th on the all time list.

He's also 5th in games played with 645.

9th on the FG% list at .501.

3rd with 1,788 offensive rebounds.

9th with 2,748 defensive rebounds.

7th with 4,536 total rebounds

And, with 1 more steal he will tie Mark Jackson for 10th.

On this date in 1979 the Pacers traded Rick Robey to the Boston Celtics for Billy Knight.

On this date in 1991 the Pacers signed Byron Dinkins to a 10 day contract.

I recently listed the 3 players that have played for Indiana that were listed as under 6'. Lets take a look at the other end of the tape measure.

There have been 16 players listed at 7' or taller, here are the 10 that are an even, 7-0.

James Edwards

John Edwards

Stuart Gray

Reggie Harding

David Harrison

Brad Miller

Jawann Oldham

Carlos Rogers

Steve Stipanovich

Zan Tabak

I'll list the top 6 bigs at a later date.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Peck
01-16-2009, 01:24 AM
I hate to keep nitpicking you Jose because believe me I love this thread, however Carlos Roger was 6'11" (and that was generous)

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/carlos_rogers/index.html

Jose Slaughter
01-16-2009, 04:03 AM
nitpicking is encouraged.

I used the Pacer Media Guide for heights, weights & all tie breakers.

I don't have the current issue but the 07-08 copy has him listed at 7-0

I don't know of a source that is going to be 100% on something as easily fudged as height or weight. Not that its Pacer related but I think theres some disagreement on the actual age of Mutombo too.

edit: Odd that in a post that mentions both Dale Davis & Billy Knight, you bring up Carlos "Milk Carton" Rogers! :D

BKK
01-16-2009, 09:58 AM
I really enjoy reading your thread a lot too Jose, very instructive for youngsters like me who haven't known the 80ies Pacers and even less the ABA times

good job, keep doing the great work!

beast23
01-16-2009, 10:20 AM
edit: Odd that in a post that mentions both Dale Davis & Billy Knight, you bring up Carlos "Milk Carton" Rogers! :D

Carlos "Milk Carton" Rogers.

Reggie Harding.... wow. Now there was a candidate for nicknames. But I'll bet he never had a nickname because his teammates and the public at large didn't have the courage to give him any type of a derogatory nickname.

So since he's deceased, let me be the first. Reggie "Nutcase" Harding. Probably one of only a handful of players in pro basketball history that could make you think that Ron Artest is actually half-normal.

The book "Loose Balls" has a couple of funny stories about him.

count55
01-16-2009, 11:09 AM
Carlos "Milk Carton" Rogers.

Reggie Harding.... wow. Now there was a candidate for nicknames. But I'll bet he never had a nickname because his teammates and the public at large didn't have the courage to give him any type of a derogatory nickname.

So since he's deceased, let me be the first. Reggie "Nutcase" Harding. Probably one of only a handful of players in pro basketball history that could make you think that Ron Artest is actually half-normal.

The book "Loose Balls" has a couple of funny stories about him.

There was a great story about Reggie Harding and Jimmy Rayl, but all of the stories were great.

Slick Pinkham
01-16-2009, 01:39 PM
from pages 139-142 in Loose balls by Terry Pluto,

a short Harding story:
"Once Reggie told us he has to leave the team for his daughter's funeral, which we fell for hook, line, and sinker. Of course he didn't have a daughter."

the Rayl one:

Rayl, a great shooter, was 1-14 in a game against New Orleans. Thinking he must have been partying in the French Quarter, GM Mike Storen called him into his office at the end of the road trip.

Rayl explained: Reggie Harding had been assigned as his hotel roommate in New Orleans (roommate assignments rotated to help all players "get to know each other"). After Rayl had gone to bed, he woke up and found Harding had turned on the lights and was pointing a gun at Rayl's head. The huge 7-footer Harding, clutching the gun, yelled at Rayl: "Tweetie Bird (Rayl's nickname), I hear that you hate (N-word)s".

Rayl assured him otherwise, and talked Harding into putting the gun down. Rayl then picked up the gun, removed all the bullets, and convinced Harding to go to bed since there was a game the next day.

Later Rayl woke up again with the lights on and Harding was pointing a gun at him once again, saying "You didn't think I only had six bullets, did you? You didn't think I only had six bullets, did you?"

Rayl ran out of the room and he unsucessfully tried to get some sleep in the hotel lobby. Tired, he went 1-14 later that day.

---------------
Harding had turned down a midseason $10,000 contact offer, wanting $15,000. The Pacers offered to give him the 15K but only in incentives, pro-rated for each game he played, and so if he played every game and they won the title he would make 15K. After fines, suspensions, and missed games Harding owed the Pacers $4,000. He remarked after he was suspended for the playoffs that he wanted to shoot GM Mike Storen. Harding never played again.

Hicks
01-16-2009, 03:56 PM
Man. Harding makes the more recent Pacer troubles seem pretty tame.

nerveghost
01-16-2009, 04:01 PM
With a nickname like "Tweety Bird", no wonder he was like that. That's worse than "Sue".

Slick Pinkham
01-16-2009, 04:33 PM
"Tweety Bird" was Rayl's nickname (small, energetic).

It was Harding who said to Rayl, while pointing a gun at him, "Tweety Bird, I heard that you hate (N-word)s!"

beast23
01-16-2009, 04:45 PM
If you were to look up "Reggie Harding" in Wikipedia, you will find that our posts just touch the tip of the iceberg.

The guy was definitely messed up.

Slick Pinkham
01-16-2009, 04:54 PM
Legend has it that he once attempted to rob a store while wearing a mask. Seven-foot robbers being scarce, then and now, the would-be victim said, "C'mon, Reggie, I know that's you."

Merz
01-16-2009, 05:04 PM
If you were to look up "Reggie Harding" in Wikipedia, you will find that our posts just touch the tip of the iceberg.

The guy was definitely messed up.

Yeah, but he averaged 13.4 rebounds a game, ya gotta like that :D

aceace
01-16-2009, 05:14 PM
I hate to keep nitpicking you Jose because believe me I love this thread, however Carlos Roger was 6'11" (and that was generous)

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/carlos_rogers/index.htmlAccording to Wiki: Rogers has resumed his playing career in Columbia, South America

Jose Slaughter
01-16-2009, 06:40 PM
I was wondering why a guy averaging 13 boards a game only played 1 season here. Now I know...

thanks Tom

count55
01-16-2009, 11:59 PM
Legend has it that he once attempted to rob a store while wearing a mask. Seven-foot robbers being scarce, then and now, the would-be victim said, "C'mon, Reggie, I know that's you."

I've heard that, but I had always heard that Reggie said, "Nah, Nah, it ain't me!"

cinotimz
01-17-2009, 01:06 AM
Ah, Billy Knight.

Sam Perkins was called the Big Smooth.

But when I think of smooth on the basketball court I think of two guys. George Gervin and Billy Knight.

Billy looked like he was gliding across the floor as he made his way up and down the court and to the hoop.

Just so incredibly smooth and fluid. Looked almost effortless.

And oh, btw, this just in....the guy was really, really good.

Jose Slaughter
01-17-2009, 02:16 AM
Today is January 17th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are a horrid 6-13 in games played on this date. At one point losing 7 straight games played during a 15 year period from 1989-2003. They did win their last game played on 1-17, a 90-84 victory at New Jersey in 04.

On this date in 1977 Jerome Anderson was waived, the first time. He will return, briefly, next month.

Since we're on the subject of Reggie Harding.....

There have been 5 Pacers that came into the league straight from high school.

Reggie Harding in the ABA from Detroit Eastern.

Jermaine O'Neal from Eau Claire.

Stephen Jackson from Oak Hill Academy.

Jonathan Bender from Picayune Memorial.

Al Harrington from St. Patrick's.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

ABADays
01-17-2009, 10:25 AM
Ah, Billy Knight.

Sam Perkins was called the Big Smooth.

But when I think of smooth on the basketball court I think of two guys. George Gervin and Billy Knight.

Billy looked like he was gliding across the floor as he made his way up and down the court and to the hoop.

Just so incredibly smooth and fluid. Looked almost effortless.

And oh, btw, this just in....the guy was really, really good.

I had given Knight the nickname "Silk" for all the reasons you posted.

Harding could have had any number of nicknames - none of them good.

Jose Slaughter
01-18-2009, 04:31 AM
Today is January 18th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers have a 13-9 record in games played on this date.

No birthdays or transactions today & only one record of note.

On this date in 2002 the Pacers set a record for the fewest offensive rebounds, 1, in a 96-93 home loss to Detroit. They tied this record on March 3, 2006 in a 99-98 road defeat in Boston.

Lets do another My old School.

Heres an update of colleges that have given us the most Pacer players.

IU 10, ULCA 7, Georgia Tech & Purdue 6.

There are several schools with 5 players each, the first is Arizona State

Art Becker
Ike Diogu
Freddie Lewis
Byron Scott
Tony Zeno

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
01-19-2009, 02:06 AM
Today is January 19th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers have a 13-10 record in games played on this date.

Happy Birthday

Ron Behagen 1951
Behagen was listed as 6-9, 235 from Minnesota. In his only season as a Pacer, 77-78, he averaged 11.2 points & 6.5 rebounds in 22.2 minutes per in the 51 games he appeared in.

I found the following passage on Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Behagen

On January 25, 1972, Behagen was involved in one of the most serious on-court incidents in college basketball history when he and several teammates attacked Ohio State University's Luke Witte. As the teams headed to the locker room at the half Witte threw an elbow to the head of Gopher guard Bobby Nix and then ran to the locker room before Gophers players could retaliate. As the game progressed, Ohio State established a 50-44 lead with less than a minute to play when Minnesota's Clyde Turner flagrantly fouled Witte during a layup attempt, knocking Witte to the ground. Corky Taylor of Minnesota reached down as if to help Witte up, but then kneed Witte in the groin. A melee between the two teams ensued, and Behagen came off the bench to stomp Witte in the head, leaving him unconscious. Ohio State coach Fred Taylor described it as "the sorriest thing [he] ever saw in intercollegiate athletics."[4] Behagen and Corky Taylor were suspended for the rest of that season,[5] though Witte did not press charges against either.[6]

The site also list his birth as 1-14-51 but I'll stick with the Pacers Media Guide.

On this date in 2007 the Pacers traded Al Harrington, Stephen Jackson, Sarunas Jasikevicius & Josh Powell to the Golden State Warriors for Mike Dunleavy Jr, Ike Diogu, Keith McLeod & Troy Murphy.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
01-20-2009, 12:42 AM
I'm preparing to post todays Today in Pacer History but I wanted to take a moment to thank everyone for their support in this effort.

We continue to get between 1 & 2 dozen regular, registered posters, each & every day. But I wanted to pass along another figure that I find even more telling. Yesterday, the 19th there were 61 views to this thread, I can contribute 23 of those to registered posters. That means upto 38 "guest" may have checked us out. I'm sure that number could be lower some days, or higher on others, but my guess its within 10 to 12 either way.

I have a request for those visitors to our site that have yet to register.

Please take a few moments to register & share your thoughts not only in this thread but through out the site.

I hope to hear your Pacer stories in this thread as well as across the board. Everyone brings & adds something to this community, that is how we've grown over the years. I encourage you to register & share.

Either way, thanks for being here.

Jose

Jose Slaughter
01-20-2009, 01:35 AM
Today is January 20th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are a very sad 7-13 in games played on this date including losing 9 of 10 between 1978 & 1992. We've lost our last two as well, 2006 to Minnesota & in 2007 to New York.

On this date in 1974 Bob Arnzen was waived.

On this date in 1982 Mike Bantom was traded to Philadelphia for cash.

On this date in 1995 the Pacers made the most 3's without a miss, (highest 3pt FG%) when they nailed all 7 of their attempts in a 99-89 home win against the Atlanta Hawks.

I feel like doing another Pacers by the Numbers, we're up to jersey #4.

Johnny Neumann Neumann came in after the start & left before the end of the 74-75 season but while here, was the first to wear #4.

Adrian Dantley AD stated the 77-78 season here but was traded before Christmas of 77.

Clint Richardson Came in just before the 85-86 season & played thru 86-87. He was waived shortly after the start of 87-88 but had not yet played a game in that season.

Richard Morton Morton was a Pacer for just 5 weeks at the start of the 88-89 & was home for Thanksgiving dinner.

Michael Williams Williams signed in the fall of 90 & played both the 90-91 & 91-92 seasons here.

Byron Scott Scott was signed just after the beginning of 93-94 & played the entire 94-95 season before being taken by Vancouver in the expassion draft.

Travis Best Best started his career the year after Scott left, 95-96, & was here until traded during in early 02.

Eddie Gill Gill was signed in the summer of 04 & played during the 04-05 & 05-06 years.

Shawne Williams Williams picked up the #4 when he came in the year following Gill & wore the 4 for his 2 seasons here.

Currently the #4 is available & awaiting another owner.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Slick Pinkham
01-20-2009, 09:52 AM
Adrian Dantley AD started the 77-78 season here but was traded before Christmas of 77.



The Lakers sent James Edwards, Earl Tatum and cash to Indiana for Dantley and Dave Robisch. In this case, so soon after the merger and still with zero TV money, I'm guessing for the cash-strapped Pacers the money and not the players obtained or sent out drove the deal.

I have no earthly idea why (this trade aside) Dantley was passed around so much, and usually for so little return, in his career. He was an outstanding offensive player, and as far as I know not a cancer or anything. Sure as a 6'5" post player he was an odd matchup, but the dude could always score and I don't remember him being THAT big of a liability on defense.

Peter_sixtyftsixin
01-20-2009, 11:31 AM
Pacers by the Numbers, we're up to jersey #4.

Johnny Neumann Neumann came in after the start & left before the end of the 74-75 season but while here, was the first to wear #4.

Adrian Dantley AD stated the 77-78 season here but was traded before Christmas of 77.

Clint Richardson Came in just before the 85-86 season & played thru 86-87. He was waived shortly after the start of 87-88 but had not yet played a game in that season.

Richard Morton Morton was a Pacer for just 5 weeks at the start of the 88-89 & was home for Thanksgiving dinner.

Michael Williams Williams signed in the fall of 90 & played both the 90-91 & 91-92 seasons here.

Byron Scott Scott was signed just after the beginning of 93-94 & played the entire 94-95 season before being taken by Vancouver in the expassion draft.

Travis Best Best started his career the year after Scott left, 95-96, & was here until traded during in early 02.

Eddie Gill Gill was signed in the summer of 04 & played during the 04-05 & 05-06 years.

Shawne Williams Williams picked up the #4 when he came in the year following Gill & wore the 4 for his 2 seasons here.

Currently the #4 is available & awaiting another owner.

The number 4 seems cursed.

Peck
01-20-2009, 02:44 PM
The Lakers sent James Edwards, Earl Tatum and cash to Indiana for Dantley and Dave Robisch. In this case, so soon after the merger and still with zero TV money, I'm guessing for the cash-strapped Pacers the money and not the players obtained or sent out drove the deal.

I have no earthly idea why (this trade aside) Dantley was passed around so much, and usually for so little return, in his career. He was an outstanding offensive player, and as far as I know not a cancer or anything. Sure as a 6'5" post player he was an odd matchup, but the dude could always score and I don't remember him being THAT big of a liability on defense.

At 6'5" he was still a better rebounder and defender than the 7' James Edwards.

aceace
01-20-2009, 02:54 PM
It is my understanding this coming from Slick Leonard that the Pacers were going to lose Dantley because they would not be able to re-sign him at the end of the season. The CBA was quite different then. The Pacers had no money.

I remember Dantley scoring 20 pts in the 1st quarter one night, almost all of it in the paint. He was a player.

Knucklehead Warrior
01-20-2009, 03:09 PM
I have no earthly idea why (this trade aside) Dantley was passed around so much, and usually for so little return, in his career. He was an outstanding offensive player, and as far as I know not a cancer or anything. Sure as a 6'5" post player he was an odd matchup, but the dude could always score and I don't remember him being THAT big of a liability on defense.

While this is probably not much reflection on why, it always stands out in my mind --
After a NotreDame game where AD did quite well, he was interviewed and this is an estimate of what I remember:

Interviewer: Adrian you scored 20 points, got 8 rebounds, and 3 steals. What a game you had.

AD : Yeah, and I'm only a sophomore too.

Jose Slaughter
01-21-2009, 01:44 AM
Today is January 21st, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 11-14 in games played on this date.

Happy Birthday

Sidney Lowe 1960
Lowe was listed as 6-0, 197 from North Carolina State. In his one season as a Pacer Lowe avearged just 4.2 points, 1.6 rebounds & 3.4 assist in 15.9 minutes per for 78 games. Lowe played in the NBA & CBA until 1990 then went directly into coaching. Following several unsuccessful seasons in the NBA he is now head coach of NC State.

Detlef Schrempf 1963
Det was 6-10, 230 out of Washington. In his 4 & a half seasons as a Pacer he averaged 17 points on .511 FG%, 8.6 rebounds & 4.1 assist in 33.7 minutes a game for 354 games. Schrempf won the 6th man award in both 1990 & 1991. He made the All Star team 3 times, the first, in his final year in Indiana during the 92-93 season. From what I can tell, today Schrempf spends most of his time working with the Detlef Schrempf Foundation.

http://www.detlef.com/

On this date in 1987 Michael Brooks was waived.

On this date in 1999, a lot of signings took place due to the lock out delaying all transactions until the ink was dry on the new CBA.

Carlos Knox, Todd Lindeman, Mate Skelin & Sam Perkins were all signed as free agents, Skelin made the team & oddly enough is only 1 of 3 players to make the roster & never play in a game.

Both Fred Hoiberg & Travis Best re-signed with Indiana.

Time for another in the series of My old School.

A quick re-cap

1. Indiana ---------- 10
2. UCLA ------------- 7
3. Georgia Tech ----- 6
3. Michigan ---------- 6
5. Arizona State ----- 5

Now another college with 5 Pacer players, Kentucky

Mike Flynn
Kyle Macy
Ron Mercer
Mark Pope
Rick Robey

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
01-22-2009, 03:25 AM
Today is January 22nd, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 8-6 in games played on this date.

On this date in 1970 the Pacers took part in the first part of the 4th ABA College Draft. The first 9 rounds were held on January 22nd, rounds 10-14 were, for reasons beyond me, were completed on March 15th.

Here are the 9 players chosen by the Pacers.

1. Dennis Awtrey ..... Santa Clara
2. Vince Fritz .......... Oregon State
3. Rick Mount .......... Purdue
4. Surry Oliver ......... Stephen F. Austin
5. Don Curnutt ......... Miami
6. Rick Erickson ........ Washington State
7. Billy Jones ............ Louisiana College
8. Jerry Kroll ............ Davidson
9. Bob Reily ............. Mt. St. Mary's

On this date in 1991 Jawann Oldham signed his one & only 10 day contract.

On this date in 1999 Norman Nolan was signed to a non-guaranteed contract & 1st round pick Al Harrington signed his first contract with Indiana. Rik Smits & Mark Pope were re-signed on this date as well.

Here's another in a series of Thanks for the coffee, can I keep the jersey?

To make this list you need to have played in 2 games or less, or played a total of less than 15 minutes.

Here are the 3 that I mentioned back on January 11th.

Lari Ketner in the 2000-2001 season played a total of 7 minutes in 3 games, managing to get an assist but committing 2 turnover.

Norm Richardson during the 2001-2002 season Richardson played in just 3 games totaling just 4 minutes, missing all 3 of his shots but getting a rebound & an assist.

Courtney Sims just last season, 07-08, Sims managed 2 rebounds & an assist in his 11 minute, 3 game Pacer career.

Here are todays additions to the list.....

Reggie Williams played in only 2 games early in 1996, but did manage to get the most court time of anyone on our list, 33 total minutes. Reggie managed 5 points on 2-9 from the field with 7 rebounds, 2 assist & 2 turnovers

Clyde Mayes is another player that made it into just 2 games, for a total of 21 minutes. Mayes scored a total of 7 points on 3-7 from the field with 7 boards, 3 assist & 2 blocks.

Richard Morton also played in 2 games but only played a total of 11 minutes. Morton scored 6 points on 3 of 4 from the floor with 1 assist & a turnover.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

count55
01-22-2009, 07:39 AM
Didn't we end up trading Reggie Williams for Vincent Askew?

I can remember Reggie Williams coming out in the "Reggie Draft" of 1987, which I had named it prior to draft day. There were three Reggie's who I had expected to go in the first round: Reggie Williams, Reggie Miller, and Reggie Lewis.

I had expected Williams to be far and away the best of the three, but he ended up being far and away the worst of the three.

BTW...The Pacers had 6 guys from that draft who played for them. In addition to Reggie Williams and, of course, Reggie Miller, the Pacers of the '90's also got major contributions from that year's Rookie of the Year Mark Jackson (18th, NYK) and Derrick McKey (9th, SEA). The other two players from that draft were the Pacers Second Rounder Brian Rowsom (4 games with the Pacers) and Vincent Askew (39th, PHI).

On a tangent, Brian Rowsom played for two years with the expansion Charlotte Hornets, which led me to believe that he was taken in the expansion draft. However, that is not correct. Charlotte actually took Clinton Wheeler. Here is a list of the Pacer players taken in NBA expansion drafts over the years:

1980 Dallas: Joe Hassett
1988 Charlotte/Miami: Clinton Wheeler (Charlotte)
1989 Minnesota/Orlando: Scott Skiles (Orlando)
1995 Vancouver/Toronto: Byron Scott (Vancouver)
2004 Charlotte: Primoz Brezec

And, once more, thanks, Jose, for the effort.

Jose Slaughter
01-23-2009, 02:32 AM
Today is January 23rd, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 8-14 in games played on this date, including 4 straight losses.

Happy Birthday

Haywoode Workman 1966
Woody was with the Pacers for 5 seasons but played just 4 games in season 4 & not at all in season 5. Workman appeared in 215 games during the 4 seasons he actually played, averaging 5.1 points, 1.8 rebounds & 3.8 assist in 18.5 minutes a game. Today Workman works as an NBA referee.

Billy King 1966
King is a former Pacer assistant coach from 1993-1997. King is the former general manager and team president of the Philadelphia 76er's.

On this date in 1971 the Pacers took part in the 5th ABA College Draft.

Here is a list of players taken my the Pacers.

1. Darnell Hillman ---------- San Jose State
2. John Mengelt ----------- Auburn
3. Jim Clemons ------------ Ohio State
4. Clarence Glover --------- Western Kentucky
5. Jeff Halliburton ---------- Drake
6. Dean Meminger ---------- Marquette
7. Ken Booker -------------- UCLA
8. Tom Crosswhite --------- Dayton
9. Larry Westherford ------- Purdue
10. James England --------- Tennessee
11. Jeff Smith ------------- New Mexico State
12. Rick Katherman -------- Duke
13. Clarence Smith -------- Villanova
14. Rich Walker ----------- Bowling Green
15. Tom Bush ------------- Drake
16. Jim Irving ------------- St. Louis
17. Bob Bissant ------------ Loyola
18. Rudy Benjamin --------- Michigan State
19. Slick Pinkham ---------- DePauw

On this date in 1989 Herb Williams set a Pacer NBA record of 25 Defensive Rebounds as well as 29 Total Rebounds in a 117-102 home win against the Denver Nuggets.

Also on this date in 1989 the Pacers set an NBA club record of 53, Defensive rebounds in that same win against the Nuggets.

On this date in 1980 the Pacers set an NBA club record of 46, 4th quarter points in a 144-130 home loss to the San Antonio Spurs.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Slick Pinkham
01-23-2009, 08:06 AM
LOL, Slick Pinkham can claim to have been drafted to play pro basketball. 19th round draft pick! Considering that a second round pick is now a throwaway item, you wonder why they bothered, I guess it was to fill a training camp

Jose Slaughter
01-23-2009, 08:44 AM
Tom

You might know this better than I but wasn't Pinkham a made up name?

I had heard a story that Bobby Leonard had used a late draft pick on a guy that didn't even exist. Can anyone confirm this & if Pinkham was indeed that pick?

Slick Pinkham
01-23-2009, 09:01 AM
I never heard that, but it has to be made up. Google searches find nothing on DePauw and a player named Pinkham. The fact that his first name was listed as "Slick" is probably the giveaway that this was a joke, along with "Slick Pinkham" sounding like "Dick Tinkham" the Pacers owner and founder.

Slick is even listed as a "redshirt" on the draft list. LOL... do you redshirt at a Division 3 college and enter the pro draft?

http://www.basketballreference.com/teams/teamyear.htm?tm=ind&lg=A&yr=1971

Jose Slaughter
01-24-2009, 02:58 AM
Today is January 24th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 10-12 in games played on this date.

Happy Birthday

Kevin O'Neill 1957
O'Neill was an assistant coach under Rick Carlise during the 2004-2005 & 2005-2006 seasons. The following, & final year with the team, he was named "consultant".

On this date in 1992 Jerome Lane signed the first of 2, 10 day contract. So his name will come up a couple more times in the next 3 weeks.

Back on January 16th I posted a list of the 7-0 Pacers, here's that group.

James Edwards
John Edwards
Stuart Gray
Reggie Harding
David Harrison
Brad Miller
Jawann Oldham
Carlos Rogers
Steve Stipanovich
Zan Tabak

Well there are 6 more that are listed as being taller than an even 7 foot.

7-1
Primoz Brezec
Greg Dreiling

7-2
Roy Hibbert
Dwayne Schintzius
Bruno Sundov

7-4
Rik Smits

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
01-25-2009, 01:10 AM
Today is January 25th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 11-7 in games played on this date.

On this date in 1999: Just 4 days after being signed as a free agent, Carlos Knox was waived. That was the end to Knox's NBA career but he has since moved onto coaching & is the current head coach of the Pittsburgh Xplosion in the CBA.

http://www.pittsburghxplosion.com/community/community_111507.html

On this date in 2006: The Pacers traded Ron Artest to the Sacramento Kings for Peja Stojakovic.

On this date in 1969: Roger Brown set the franchise record for highest FG% by hitting all 14 of his attempts in a 131-122 home win over the Denver Nuggets.

On this date in 1980: Billy Knight set the Pacers NBA record of the most FG's made, 20 in a 139-117 home blow out of Dan Diego. That record was tied by Rik Smits in a 111-104 home victory against the Los Angeles Clippers.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
01-26-2009, 01:59 AM
Today is January 26th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 7-12 in games played on this date.

Well today there are no birthdays, transaction or records to mention so we're going to hit ya with a double shot of Pacer Trivia.

Its time for another Pacers by the Numbers

This time, the very popular jersey #5

Travis Grant was aquired from Kentucky for future considerations on January 12th of 1976 & was waived on October 4th of 76.

John Kuester was signed as a free agent on August 3rd of 1979 & waived on September 25th of 1980

Tom Abernethy was signed in late December of 1980 & played in 29 of the last 46 regular season games.

Clinton Wheeler was signed as a free agent in October of 87 & lost in the expansion draft to Charlotte the following June.

Byron Dinkins appeared in just 2 games during January of 1991.

Sam Mitchell was traded to the Pacers along with Pooh Richardson for Chuck Person & Michael Williams on September 8th of 1992 & Mitchell signed with the T-wolves as a free agent 3 years & 20 days later.

Jalen Rose was involved with 2 memorable Pacer tardes. The first when we sent Mark Jackson to Denver to get Rose on June 13th of 96. The 2nd when we shipped Rose to Chicago for ..... well..... you know who, on February 19th of 2002.

Ron Mercer was part of the Rose trade with the Bulls on 2-19-02. He also was involved in another deal when he left on July 24th 2003.

and like my good friend Forest, Forest Gump says.... That's all I gotta say 'bout that

Orien Greene was picked up off the waiver wire on July 12th 2006 & played a full season here before being waived on June 29th of 2007.

T.J. Ford is the current owner of the #5 jersey, this is his first season here following the O'Neal to Toronto deal of 7-9-08.

I've got another little feature that will make its debut tonight.

I'll call it Whats in a Name

There have been 12 names that have been shared with another Pacer player thru the years.

Here is the list of players that share their last name with just one other player.

Armstrong: Darrell & Warren (considering the crowd I'm working with here... I'm aware that Warren changed his last name to Jabali while still in college. He is listed as Armstrong in the media guide however.

Brown Roger & Tony

Carter Butch & Ron

Daniels Mel & Marquis

Edwards James & John

Lewis Freddie & Mike

Natt Brothers Calvin & Kenny

Owens Andre & Tom

Rush Brothers Brandon & Kareem

Scott Brent & Byron

Strickland Erick & Mark

Thompson Jack & LaSalle

Now don't get antsy, I know theres 4 sets of triplets, 3 sets of quadruplets and a couple of sextuplets. I'll save them for later.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
01-27-2009, 12:52 AM
Today is January 27th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 10-9 in games played on this date.

On this date in 1978: The Pacers traded John Williamson to the New Jersey Nets for Bob Carrington & "future considerations". The future considerations turned out to be 2nd round picks in 1980 & 1981. The 1980 pick was used to select Louis Orr at #29, the 81 pick was #25 & used to select Brian Jackson.

Time for another in the series of My old School. This is a list of colleges that have given the Pacers the most players. There are several schools tied with 5 players each, heres a quick look at the list

1. Indiana ---------- 10
2. UCLA ------------- 7
3. Georgia Tech ----- 6
3. Michigan ---------- 6
5. Arizona State ----- 5
5. Kentucky --------- 5

Next up

Dudley Bradley
Darrell Elston
Dick Grubar
John Kuester
Sam Perkins

North Carolina

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Major Cold
01-27-2009, 01:56 PM
Can't wait for tomorrow.

duke dynamite
01-27-2009, 06:29 PM
Were the majority of our IU picks during the ABA days?

YoSoyIndy
01-27-2009, 08:06 PM
Were the majority of our IU picks during the ABA days?

Yep -- 6 during ABA and 4 during NBA. Those four were Scott May, Steve Alford, Damon Bailey and Jay Edwards.

Just kidding -- the four were Bailey, Tony Brown, Jim Thomas and Wayne Radford.

Jose Slaughter
01-27-2009, 08:12 PM
The last ABA draft was 1975

Tom Abernethy - LA Lakers 3rd round of the 76 NBA draft

Damon Bailey - Indiana 2nd round of the 94 NBA draft

Quinn Buckner - Milwaukee 1st round of the 76 NBA draft

Butch Carter - LA Lakers 2nd round of the 80 NBA draft

Butch Joyner - Indiana 10th round of the 68 ABA draft

George McGinnis - Indiana 1st round of the 71 ABA draft

Wayne Radford - Indiana 2nd round of the 78 NBA draft

Jim Rayl - free agent signed in 67

Jim Thomas - Indiana 2nd round of 83 NBA draft

Randy Wittman - Washington 1st round of 83 NBA draft

2 were from ABA drafts & 1 was an ABA free agent signing,

3 were Pacer draft picks & 4 were drafted by a different team & ended up here.

duke dynamite
01-27-2009, 08:14 PM
Thanks.

Jose Slaughter
01-28-2009, 03:53 AM
Today is January 28th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 6-6 in games played on this date.

Well, I thought I had a rebounding record to share with you but I can't confirm it so I'd say the Media Guide has a misprint.

It list the Pacers NBA record for most rebounds at 75, being set on 1-28-86 in a game against the Denver Nuggets. The year by year results, also found in the Media Guide show the Pacers played the Atlanta Hawks on that date & loss by 31 points. Doubtful they would set a rebounding record and get beat that badly in the same game.

I checked the team records for both offensive & defensive rebounding but none of the dates in those catagories matched up with the total rebound record. None of the web sites I know of were helpful either, so I guess I'm stuck.

If any of our regular readers has a suggestion, I'd be glad to hear it.

For a lack of anything else I guess I'll wrap up the Whats in a Name feature I started on the 26th.

The triplets:

Anderson - Jerome, Kenny & Ron

Green - Ricky, Sean & Steve

Jones - Fred, James & Wilbert

Richardson - Clint, Jerome & Norm

The quadruplets

Davis - Antonio, Brad, Dale & Johnny

Jackson - Mark, Ralph, Stephen & Tracy

Miller - Brad, Dick, Jay & Reggie

The sextuplets

Johnson - Anthony, Clemon, Eddie, George, Gus & Mickey

Williams - Herb, John, Kenny, Michael, Reggie & Shawne

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

duke dynamite
01-28-2009, 07:39 AM
There is bound to be a flub in almost any history or record book.

Jose Slaughter
01-28-2009, 08:26 AM
Thats the 2nd that I know of with possibly 2 others.

From what I understand there are some people in the know that visit our site, maybe someone will know how to get the correct info.

Jose Slaughter
01-29-2009, 01:16 AM
Today is January 29th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 9-9 in games played on this date.

Happy Birthday

Nate Barnett 1953
Barnett, 6-3, 175 out of Akron was drafted by the Rockets in the 7th round of the 75 NBA draft. He was signed as a free agent sometime before the start of the 75-76 season & averaged 2.3 points, .7 rebounds & managed 8 assist as well as 8 turnovers in the 12 games he appeared. There's no mention of him being waived or playing anywhere else.

On this date in 1991: Byron Dinkins, signed just 13 days ago, was waived. Dinkins was on the roster for 4 games but only made it to the court for 2 of those for a total of 5 minutes.

On this date in 1999: Norman Nolan, signed just a week before, was waived. Nolan was gone before the shortened "lock out" season began in early February, so he did not make the offical roster.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
01-30-2009, 02:20 AM
Today is January 30th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 10-6 in games played on this date.

Happy Birthday

Rick Robey 1956
Robey was 6-11, 230 out of Kentucky was selected by the Pacers with the 3rd pick in the 1978 draft. That was the draft Bird was taken 6th. Robey was here less than a year, appearing in 42 games with averages of 8.6 points & 5.9 rebounds in 19.7 minutes per game. Robey was traded on 1-16-79 for Billy Knight of the Boston Celtics where he won a championship ring in 1981.

Jalen Rose 1973
Rose was 6-8, 210 from Michiagn. As mentioned previously, he was involved in two major trades with the Pacers. We aquired him, Reggie Williams & a draft pick in a deal with Denver for Mark Jackson, Ricky Pierce & a draft pick on June 13th of 1996. Rose was a Pacer for 5 & a half seasons, appearing in 402 games with averages of 14.2 points, 3.6 rebounds & 3.4 assist in 29.8 minutes per game. The 2nd big trade involving Rose was when he was shipped to Chicago along with Travis Best, Norm Richardson & a 2nd rounder for Brad Miller, Ron Artest, Ron Mercer & Kevin Ollie on 2-19-02. Rose retired at the end of the 06-07 season as a member of the Phoenix Suns.

I also found this on Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jalen_Rose

Rose is a supporter of his alma mater and was seen rooting for Michigan's basketball team during the 2006 NIT Final Four with fellow ex-Wolverine, Maurice Taylor. Rose is also known for his philanthropic efforts. He contributes to inner city youth by helping to build reading centers. He has also given Dikembe Mutombo a check for $100,000 to help with the construction of an operating room for the hospital Mutumbo built in the Congo.

Rose is the owner of Three Tier Entertainment, an independent, LA based management and production company. Created in 2007, Three Tier Entertainment is heavily involved in the development of television & film projects and also manages talent including directors, actors and screenplay writers.

Jonathen Bender 1981
Bender was 6-11, 202 from Picayune Memorial High School in Mississippi. Bender was originally drafted by the Raptors with the 5th pick of the 1999 draft, then traded to the Pacers for Antonio Davis in a deal that became offical on August 5th of 99. Bender was a Pacer for 7 seasons appearing in just 237 games, thats averaging less than 34 per year. Bender was waived on June 14th 2006 with career averages of 5.6 points & 2.2 rebounds.

This from Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Bender

Two years after Hurricane Katrina, he established in New Orleans the nonprofit Jonathan Bender Foundation and the for-profit Jonathan Bender Enterprises. Bender's idealism has manifests itself through initiatives like adopting elementary schools, building real estate ventures, offering free finance classes for some of New Orleans' poorest residents and running free basketball clinics for teens in the New Orleans region.

Bender's for-profit construction company, Kingdom Homes, buys and restores flood-damaged properties in New Orleans' worst neighborhoods. Some other projects include an Italian wine imports company; investment in several high-end real estate projects; inventing and seeking a patent on a fitness device he's calling Bender Bands; owning part of an island and some commerical property in the Caribbean; and owning Studio 5504, a New Orleans recording facility.

He is a cousin of current New Orleans Hornets guard, Morris Peterson.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Pig Nash
01-30-2009, 04:44 AM
Meant to ask a few days ago: Who do you think would win in a 2 on 2 tournament out of the shared last name duos?

Probably Mel and Marquis or Tony and Roger right?

Jose Slaughter
01-30-2009, 09:28 AM
I think you'd have to look at the Scott's as well.

Brent down low & Byron from outside may have caused some matchup problems. Roger alone makes the Brown's dangerous but I think the overall talent of the Daniel's would be too much to overcome.

Hicks
01-30-2009, 10:41 AM
Reggie and Brad > X. :D

Jose Slaughter
01-30-2009, 11:10 AM
Sorry Hicks, the Davis Quads would kill the Miller's

Hicks
01-30-2009, 11:28 AM
I thought it was 2-on-2? Sure, Dale could guard Brad, but Brad could cruise on D, and good luck having Antonio guard Reggie. :D

Jose Slaughter
01-31-2009, 12:57 AM
Today is January 31st, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 10-11 in games played on this date.

Just for the record, no pun intended, we're 303-293 for January from 1968-2008.

Happy Birthday

Charles Jordan 1954
Jordan was drafted by the Pacers with the 16th overall pick in the 1975 ABA draft, at the time that would be in the 2nd round. Jordan was born in Indianapolis & attended Shortridge High School. He was listed as 6-8, 225 from Canisius & played just 1 year as a Pacer, the teams last in the ABA, 75-76. He averaged 5.2 points, 3.1 rebounds & 12 minutes a game for 72 games. Jordan was waived a few weeks before the start of the 76-77 season.

On this date in 1969 the Pacers traded Steve Chubinto the New York Nets for Ron Perry.

On this date in 1983 Guy Morgan was waived 8 games into his career.

Heres another update from My Old School.

1. Indiana ---------- 10
2. UCLA ------------- 7
3. Georgia Tech ----- 6
3. Michigan ---------- 6
5. Arizona State ----- 5
5. Kentucky --------- 5
5. North Carolina ---- 5

Next up ........

Bob Arnzen
Adrian Dantley
Tracy Jackson
Jay Miller
Troy Murphy

all from Notre Dame

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
02-01-2009, 04:04 AM
Today is February 1st, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 12-8 in games played on this date.

Happy Birthday

George Irvine 1947
Irvine is a 3 time assistant coach as well as a 2 time head coach for the Pacers. He was born in Seattle, attended Washington University & was drafted by the Sonics in the 8th round of the 1970 NBA draft. Irvine passed on the NBA & played instead for the Virginia Squires of the ABA for 5 years then a final season in Denver. In his 6 seasons Irvine averaged 9.5 points on 51.7% from the field, 3 boards per game & 19.8 minutes a game.

Irvine was a Pacer assistant between 1980 & 1983, moving up to the head coaching position for the 84-85 & 85-86 seasons. The Pacers were 22-60 his first year & 26-56 the following season.

Irvine returned as head coach in the 88-89 season following Jack Ramsey's retirement 7 games in, where he went 6-14 before Dick Versace was signed.

Irvine's 2nd stint as an assistant was in 91-92 under Bob Hill. He was away from the bench for the 92-93 season but returned under Larry Brown for his final 2 years on the sidelines, the 93-94 & 94-95 seasons.

Irvine went on to coach the Detroit Pistons for the final games of 1999-2000 & the full 00-01 season.

His overall record as coach was 100-190, 54-130 with the Pacers.

He's also the only person to coach the Pacers more than once & one of only two that have been an assisant 3 times, Dick Harter is the other.

Malik Sealy 1970
Sealy was listed as 6-8, 190 out of St. John's. The Pacers drafted Sealy with the 14th pick of the 92 NBA draft & he played here for the next 2 seasons. Appearing in 101 games & averaging 6.1 points & 2.3 rebounds in 12.8 minutes per game. Following the 94 season Sealy was traded along with Pooh Richardson & Eric Piatkowski to the Clippers for Greg Minor & some guy named Mark Jackson.

Sealy was killed by a drunk driver on May 20, 2000

This from Wikipedia...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malik_Sealy

Sealy was killed in St. Louis Park, Minnesota on May 20, 2000.[2] He was driving home from a birthday celebration for teammate Kevin Garnett in downtown Minneapolis when his sport utility vehicle was struck by a pickup truck traveling the wrong way down the highway. The truck was driven by 43-year-old Souksangouane Phengsene who survived the accident with head and chest injuries. Neither driver was wearing a seatbelt. Phengsene's airbag deployed, but Sealy's SUV did not have one.

Blood tests indicated that at the time of the accident, Phengsene had been driving drunk; his blood alcohol content was 0.19%, more than twice the legal limit in Minnesota. He plead guilty to a charge of vehicular manslaughter, was given a four-year prison term, and was released from prison in 2003.

Although his plea bargain in Sealy's death had not included a conviction specifically on the charge of driving while intoxicated, Phengsene had been convicted of drunken driving in a separate incident three years prior to his fatal collision with Sealy. After his release from prison, Phengsene was convicted of drunken driving in a new incident in 2006. After serving a year in a workhouse on that conviction, he was freed and then was arrested and convicted of drunken driving yet again in 2008. This latest conviction garnered him an eight-year prison sentence.

Lari Ketner 1977
Ketner was originally a 1999 2nd round pick of the Pistons but was traded to Atlanta in a 1996 deal. The Bulls aquired the pick in a 1998 deal with the Hawks. Chicago is the team that actually drafted Ketner & he played in 6 games for them at the start of the 99-00 season before being waived. Cleveland signed him a couple months later & he finished the season as a Cav. The 6-9, 265 Ketner signed as a free agent with Indiana in September of 2000 & appeared in just 3 games, playing a total of 7 minutes with an assist & 2 turnovers before fading away into oblivion.

On this date in 1969 Butch Joyner was waived

On this date in 1971 John Barnhill & Art Becker were traded to the Denver Nuggets for Wayne Chapman & Don Sidle. It took me years to get over it too.

On this date in 1977 the Pacers made one of the worse trades of all time. A first rounder in the upcoming 1977 NBA draft & a player to be named later to the New York Nets for John Williamson. The reason this trade makes my list.... The 1st round pick turned out to be #7 overall & the Nets used it to select Bernard "freakin'" King! Wait, it gets better. the player to be named later was shipped to the Nets following the season & it turned out to be Darnell Hillman!

We traded Bernard King & Darnell Hillman for "Super" John Williamson.

Theres more to this story that I'll save for another time.

On this date in 1980 the Pacers made yet another stupid deal. This time they sent future Hall of Famer Alex English along with a 1st round pick in the upcoming 1980 draft (#23 Carl Nicks) to the Denver Nuggets for George McGinnis.

In the records department:

On this date in 1969 the Pacers set a team record for the most free throws made in a game, 60, in a 172-141 home victory against the L.A. Stars.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Big date in Pacer History tomorrow, don't miss it!

Peck
02-01-2009, 04:35 AM
Ok, the Pacers are heby prohibited from making any transaction on the First of February of each year. I wonder if we can petition to get the state legislature to make this a law?

My God I did not realize both were made on the same day, litterally not only two of the worst trades in Pacers history but honestly that may be two of the worst trades in NBA history.

Jose, remind me again. Was Slick acting GM during that John Williamson trade? I remember we turned around and shipped him out the next season I just don't remember for who.

Jose Slaughter
02-01-2009, 06:15 AM
Peck

Slick was GM from May 29th of 1975 - June 9th of 1980 so his finger prints are on both deals.

Williamson played the final 30 games of 76-77 & the first 42 of 77-78 before being traded for Bob Carrington & future considerations.

Those future considerations turned out to be 1980 & 1981 2nd round picks that were used on Louis Orr & Brian Jackson.

So we traded Bernard King & Darnell Hillman for Bob Carrington, Louis Orr & Brian Jackson.

Carrington played 35 games in 77-78, Orr played 2 full seasons before NY signed him away from us, Jackson never made the roster.

We were compensated a 1983 2nd rounder by NY for them signing Orr. That pick was traded to Cleveland for Brad Branson & the Cavs selected Scooter McCray with that pick at #36. Branson played one year here then was out of the league.

As the year progresses & I have more time I plan on putting together a "Trade Tree" that will start with the inital trade & work its way thru whatever players were traded or signed that resulted from the first move. The Williamson deal is a good example of what I'm hoping to do.

Hicks
02-01-2009, 09:57 AM
I thought Lari Ketner was the guy who came over in the Jermaine O'Neal trade? If that wasn't him, was it a guy named Joe Klein?

Peck
02-01-2009, 12:47 PM
I thought Lari Ketner was the guy who came over in the Jermaine O'Neal trade? If that wasn't him, was it a guy named Joe Klein?

Yes, Joe Klein was already retired but his rights were traded with Jermaine for Dale. Joe never intended to play for anyone again, this was simply for salary purposes.

Peck
02-01-2009, 12:48 PM
Peck


As the year progresses & I have more time I plan on putting together a "Trade Tree" that will start with the inital trade & work its way thru whatever players were traded or signed that resulted from the first move. The Williamson deal is a good example of what I'm hoping to do.

This will be outstanding, however I have a feeling it will also be depressing.:cool:

Jose Slaughter
02-02-2009, 01:20 AM
Today is February 2nd, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 12-9 in games played on this date.

Happy Birthday

Richard Morton 1966
Morton, 6-4, 190 out of Cal-State Fullerton was signed before the start of the 88-89 season & appeared in 2 of the first 5 games that year before being waived. Morton managed 6 points, an assist & a turnover in his 11 minute Pacer career. Morton is currently the head coach of Deer Valley High School in the San Francisco area.

Sean Green 1970
The 6-5, 210 Green was a 2nd round pick in 91 out of Iona. He was with the Pacers for next 2 seasons. With 48 appearences in 2 seasons, Green averaged 4.2 points & 1.1 rebounds in just 7 minutes a game.

Transactions:

On this date in 1989 Sedric Toney was signed to a 10 day contract. This might be a clue to an entry for 2-12.

Records:

On this date in 1994 the Pacers set a club NBA record for the most 2nd quarter points with 47 in a 124-112 win at Charlotte.

Finally, the big one!

The single most important day in Pacer history, day 1 so to speak.

On this date in 1967 Indiana is awarded a franchise in the new American Basketball Association.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Peter_sixtyftsixin
02-02-2009, 10:41 AM
Happy Birthday Pacers!

duke dynamite
02-02-2009, 11:19 AM
Finally, the big one!

The single most important day in Pacer history, day 1 so to speak.

On this date in 1967 Indiana is awarded a franchise in the new American Basketball Association.


Happy Birthday, indeed.

Jose Slaughter
02-03-2009, 01:21 AM
Today is February 3rd, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are an awful 6-16 in games played on this date, losing 11 of 12 between 1976 & 1992

Happy Birthday

Bruce Kuczenski 1961
The 6-10, 232 Kuczenski was a 3rd pick of the New Jersey Nets out of Connecticut. Jersey waived him early in the 83-84 season, the Pacers signed him to a couple 10 day contracts in February of 84. While with Indiana Kuczenski played 51 minutes over 5 games, scoring 14 points with 9 boards & 8 turnovers. Following his only season in the NBA, Kuczenski played 6 seasons in Belgium, France, Italy, Spain & Switzerland.

Transactions:

On this date in 1992 the Pacers re-signed Jerome Laneto 2nd & final 10 day contract.

Lets list another group from Thanks for the coffee, can I keep the Jersey?

This is a list of players that played very little. If a guy played 2 games or less, he made the list. If he played a 3rd game he needed to total less than 15 minutes.

Here are the 6 I've mentioned before.

There are 3 players that made it onto the court just 3 times in their Pacer career.

Lari Ketner in the 2000-2001 season played a total of 7 minutes in 3 games, managing to get an assist but committing 2 turnover.

Norm Richardson during the 2001-2002 season Richardson played in just 3 games totaling just 4 minutes, missing all 3 of his shots but getting a rebound & an assist.

Courtney Sims just last season, 07-08, Sims managed 2 rebounds & an assist in his 11 minute, 3 game Pacer career.

Reggie Williams played in only 2 games early in 1996, but did manage to get the most court time of anyone on our list, 33 total minutes. Reggie managed 5 points on 2-9 from the field with 7 rebounds, 2 assist & 2 turnovers

Clyde Mayes is another player that made it into just 2 games, for a total of 21 minutes in late 1976. Mayes scored a total of 7 points on 3-7 from the field with 7 boards, 3 assist & 2 blocks.

Richard Morton also played in 2 games but only played a total of 11 minutes early in the 1988 season. Morton scored 6 points on 3 of 4 from the floor with 1 assist & a turnover.

Here's the next group.

Tracy Jackson in early 1984 played just 10 minutes in 2 games, scoring 6 points with a rebound & turnover.

Sedric Toney managed 9 minutes in his 2 games with 2 points, 2 rebounds & 2 turnovers during February of 1989.

Dick Grubar also appeared in 2 games but only played 8 minutes with totals of 4 points & an assist during 69-70.

Jack Thompson was a stat stuffer with 2 points, 2 assist, a rebound & a couple of turnovers in just 5 minutes in 2 games early in the 68-69 season.

Butch Joyner was also played 5 minutes in 2 games but only managed 1 rebound, also during 68-69

Byron Dinkins completes our group of players with 2 game Pacer careers. Dinkins also played 5 minutes in his 2 games with 2 points & a rebound during January of 91

There are still 7 more players that will make my list & I'll try to wrap this up in a week or so.

Thanks

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
02-04-2009, 01:43 AM
Today is February 4th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 11-12 in games played on this date.

Happy Birthday

Vern Fleming 1961
On September 17 of 83 the Pacers were part of a 3 team deal with New York & the then Kansas City Kings. Indiana traded Billy Knight to NY & as part of that deal, Indiana received the 1984 #1 of the Knicks. That pick, #18 was used to select Vern Fleming, 6-5, 195 out of Georgia. Fleming was with the Pacers for the next 11 seasons, appearing in 816 games with averages of 11.7 points on 50.3 FG%, 3.5 rebounds, 4.9 assist, 1.1 steals, 2 turnovers & 28.2 minutes per game.

Flemings name is all over the record book.

2nd - Assist
3rd - Most seasons, Games played, Minutes played, Steals, Turnovers
4th - Personal fouls
5th - FG made
6th - Points
7th - FG%
8th - FT made
9th - FT attempts

Fleming played one additional season in New Jersey after leaving the Pacers. He is one of several former players to return to become an assistant coach. Fleming was on the bench with Isiah Thomas from 2000-2003. He won a gold medal during the 1984 Olympic games in Los Angeles & holds the record for the most games played with out getting a tech.

Orien Green 1982
The 6-4, 208 Greene from Louisiana-Lafayette was claimed off waivers on July 9th, 2006. Appearing in 41 games during the 06-07 season Greene played about 6.2 minutes & gave us 1.5 points & 1.1 boards per game. Greene is currently playing in Europe for My Guide Amsterdam.

Transactions

On this date in 1977: Freddie Lewis announced his retirement & Jerome Anderson was signed as a free agent.

On this date in 1999: Todd Lindeman was waived just 1 day before the start of the strike shortened season. This was the 3rd & final time Lindeman was waived by the Pacers.

On this date in 2006: Jonathan Bender retired.

Records

Just for you guys that are complaining about the current state of the team. On this date in 1983 the Pacers began their longest home losing streak of 9 games. The streak ran until March 11th.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
02-05-2009, 01:19 AM
Today is February 5th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 5-9 in games played on this date.

Transactions

On this date in 1991 Jawann Oldham was waived, ending his Pacer career.

Its time again for another Pacers by the Numbers.

So, you might ask, who wore jersey #6?

Long story short.... I'm not 100% sure but I have a pretty good guess.

Wayne Pack was signed just prior to the start of the 74-75 season but was waived on January 10th of 1975. He's the first to lay claim to #6.

Jim Thomas was with the Pacers for 2 full seasons, 83-84 & 84-85. According to the Pacers Media Guide he wore both #6 & #19. I found him listed as wearing #16 on some seb sites, so, for now, we use the Media Guide & he's listed as wearing #6.

If anyone knows the true story of Thomas's jersey number, please let us know.

Terry Mills signed before the start of the 00-01 season & I guess lasted the year because I can't find any mention of him being waived.

Carlos Rogers was signed in September of 2001 & played in 22 games before being abducted by aliens.

Marquis Daniels is the current owner of the dreaded #6 having used the number since his trade to the Pacers in the summer of 06.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Hicks
02-05-2009, 08:10 AM
Talk about an uninspiring lineup. Yeesh.

Jose Slaughter
02-06-2009, 01:22 AM
Today is February 6th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 10-7 in games played on this date.

Happy Birthday

John Kuester 1955
The 6-2, 180 Kuester was drafted by the Kansas City Kings out of North Carolina in the 3rd round of the 1977 NBA draft. Following the 77-78 season he was waived by the Kings & signed with Denver for the 78-79 season. After the Nuggets waived him the Pacers signed him as a free agent on August 3rd of 79. During his only season with the Pacers Kuester averaged 1.2 points & .6 rebounds in just 4.2 minutes a game for the 24 that he managed to play. The Pacers were the 3rd & final team to waive Kuester on September 25th of 1980.

Kuester moved directly from the floor to the bench, becoming an assistant with first, Richmond then Boston University. After 2 seasons as an assistant for Boston he was named head coach for the next 2 years. Kuester then moved on to coach George Washington University for 4 seasons. He then moved onto the NBA where he's been making the rounds of Eastern Conference teams as an assistant coach. He is currently with his 7th different team in the past 14 years, the Cleveland Cavaliers.

Now you know more about John Kuester then you ever dreamed possible!

Carlos Rogers 1971
The 7-0, 245 Rogers played college ball at Tennesse State. Rogers was the 11th over all pick of the 94 draft by Seattle. Following the draft the Sonics traded him to Golden State where he played for one season before being moved to Toronto for 3 seasons, Portland for a year, then Houston for 2. The Pacers signed him as a free agent on September 6th of 2001 where he almost finished the season for us. During his brief stay as a Pacer Rogers played in 22 games averaging 2.7 points, 1.7 boards & 7.6 minutes.

Rogers has spent much of his efforts & time helping those hurt by hurrican Katrina & from what I found out is playing basketball in Columbia.

Transactions

On this date in 1974 John Baum was signed as a free agent.

Lets do another of my favorites, My Old School.

1. Indiana ---------- 10
2. UCLA ------------- 7
3. Georgia Tech ----- 6
3. Michigan ---------- 6
5. Arizona State ----- 5
5. Kentucky --------- 5
5. North Carolina ---- 5
5. Notre Dame ------ 5

Here are the 5 players

Billy Keller
Brad Miller
Rick Mount
Jerry Sichting
Everette Stephens

Yep, Purdue, but there is still one more college with 5.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Knucklehead Warrior
02-06-2009, 03:13 PM
but there is still one more college with 5.


St John's ??

Jose Slaughter
02-07-2009, 01:17 AM
Today is February 7th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 8-11 in games played on this date.

Happy Birthday

Dwayne McClain 1963
In October of 84 the Pacers traded Butch Carter to NY for their 2nd rounder in the 85 draft. That turned out to be the 27th over all selection & was used to draft McClain out of Villanova. During his only year as a Pacer the 6-6, 195 McClain played in just 45 games averaging only 3.5 points, .7 rebounds & 1.5 assist in 10.2 minutes a game.

McClain was waived by both Indiana & Cleveland before the start of the 86-87 season but went on to play in Canada, France, Greece, Indonesia, & The Philippines, before ending his career in Australia playing for 3 different teams between 91 & 97.

edit: I felt bad for not mentioning that McClain was on the Villinova team that upset Georgetown to win the 1985 NCAA Championship. He was also MVP of the 89 CBA All Star game, voted first team NBL (Australia) in 92 & has been rumored to bake Oatmeal Rasin cookies for homeless orphans.

Now I can sleep soundly.

Here's a new one for you.

He ain't heavy, he's my Pacer!

There have been 13 players, according to the Media Guide, listed as 260 lbs. or more.

12. Greg Kite ---------------- 260
12. Sam Perkins ------------- 260
11. Brad Miller --------------- 261
7. Adrian Caldwell ----------- 265
7. Erick Dampier ------------- 265
7. Lari Ketner ---------------- 265
7. Scot Pollard --------------- 265
5. John Edwards ------------- 275
5. Terry Mills ---------------- 275
4. Roy Hibbert --------------- 278
3. David Harrison ------------- 280
2. Dwayne Schintzius --------- 285*
1. John "Hot Plate" Williams --- 300

* It was rumored that Schintzius's head weighed 40 pounds by itself.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

RamBo_Lamar
02-07-2009, 02:42 AM
* It was rumored that Schintzius's head weighed 40 pounds by itself.


lol

Schintzius might be lucky former Nets teammate Jayson Williams didn't use
that big head of his for target practice.

http://www.pet-abuse.com/cases/2587/NJ/US/

Schintzius would probably make the top 10 "most eccentric" list for any
team he has played on (including the Pacers).

I do remember a couple good outings he had as a Pacer, but they came
during a period when the team was really struggling.

Jose Slaughter
02-08-2009, 02:04 AM
Today is February 8th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 7-7 in games played on this date including 3 straight wins, so tonight.... goin' for 4!

Happy Birthday

Steve Chubin 1944
Chubin was a 3rd round pick of the then San Francisco, later Golden State Warriors in the 66 NBA draft but signed with Anaheim in the ABA instead.

A year later Anaheim moved to LA & Chubin was traded to Pittsburgh.

In December of 68 Pittsburgh had moved to Minnesota & the Pacers traded Mike Lewis for Chubin. In January of 69 Chubin was traded the NY Nets for Ron Perry.

In November of 69 Chubin returned to the Pacers from the Nets but I'm not finding the details of that final trade. I can tell you that we did not trade another player to the Nets to get Chubin back so it must have been a draft pick or other considerations.

Anyway, Chubin was 6-2, 200 from Rhode Island, the college not the state. He was born in NY. During his 2 stints over 2 seasons as a Pacer, Chubin appeared in 56 total games averaging 8.3 points, 2.4 boards, 3.5 assist, 2.7 turnovers in 19.8 minutes per game.

With Chubin playing for Indiana, being traded then returning to the Pacers he becomes the first player in what I call the Boomarang Club. More on that later in this post.

Records

On this date in 1978 the Pacers had a franchise record 5 players disqualified from a 140-138 loss at New Jersey.

Back to the Boomarang Club

A player must have played for the Pacers, been waived, released, traded, retired then returned to play for the Pacers a second time to make the now famous Boomarang Club.

For those that like to read the last chapter before anyone else, I have a 22 player list.

Signing back to back 10 day contracts or a 10 day then signing for the rest of the season will not get you into the club. Using John Edwards as an example: he was with the Pacers, then played with Atlanta before being traded back to Indiana. However Edwards was waived before making it back onto the court for us so he doesn't make the club. He can cry about it all he wants & all his "entrance fee" checks have been returned. John, you arn't getting in so give it a rest.

Here the opening group of the Boomarang Club

Steve Chubin is the founding member having been a Pacer originally from 12-19-68 to 1-31-69. Chubin was then traded to the New Jersey Nets & played there the remainer of the 68-69 season. Sometime in November of 69 Chubin returned to Indiana & as far as I know, finished the season here.

George Peeples was one of the original Pacer signees in September of 1967. Peeples played two full seasons here before being traded to Carolina in July of 1969. Peeples returned to the Pacers for 9 games during the 72-73 season. From what I can gather the Pacers had signed him sometime during the summer of 72. There was an expansion draft when San Diego joined the ABA & Peeples was lost to the Conquistadors. I found no record of Peeples actually playing for San Diego so they must have released him before the start of the season. He then was free to return to the Pacers as a free agent for his final 9 games as a Pacer.

Roger Brown was the original signee from July of 67. Brown stayed with the club until the summer of 74 when Brown signed with Memphis for money the Pacers simply didn't have at the time. Memphis then traded Brown to Utah for a draft pick & cash. Brown spent a couple months with Utah before being waived. He re-signed with Indiana as a free agent in March of 75 & finished the year & his career here.

Bob Netolicky was a 2nd round pick in the 1967 ABA draft & was a Pacers from April of 67 until August of 72 when he was delt to the Dallas Chaparrals for cash. Neto returned to Indiana from Dallas in November of 73 & stayed with the Pacers until the end of his career at the close of the 75-76 season.

Freddie Lewis was another origianl signee from September of 67. Lewis played with the Pacers until July of 74 when he was traded to Memphis along with Mel Daniels for Charlie Edge & cash. Lewis was then traded to St Louis, for of all people, Tom Owens. The St. Louis franchise went belly up & Lewis was not selected in the dispersal draft but signed with the Pacers as a free agent the very next day, August 31st of 76. Lewis remained with Indiana until he announced his retirement on Febuary 4th of 77.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
02-09-2009, 01:08 AM
Today is February 9th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 11-8 in games played on this date.

Transactions

On this date in 1979 Kevin Stacom was traded to Boston for cash.

Not much going on on this date in Pacer History so I think I'll finish off the Thanks for the coffee, can I keep the jersey list.

To make the list a player must have played in 2 games or less or have played a third game but played 15 or fewer total career minutes.

Here are the players I've already mentioned.

Lari Ketner in the 2000-2001 season played a total of 7 minutes in 3 games, managing to get an assist but committing 2 turnover.

Norm Richardson during the 2001-2002 season Richardson played in just 3 games totaling just 4 minutes, missing all 3 of his shots but getting a rebound & an assist.

Courtney Sims just last season, 07-08, Sims managed 2 rebounds & an assist in his 11 minute, 3 game Pacer career.

Reggie Williams played in only 2 games early in 1996, but did manage to get the most court time of anyone on our list, 33 total minutes. Reggie managed 5 points on 2-9 from the field with 7 rebounds, 2 assist & 2 turnovers

Clyde Mayes is another player that made it into just 2 games, for a total of 21 minutes in late 1976. Mayes scored a total of 7 points on 3-7 from the field with 7 boards, 3 assist & 2 blocks.

Richard Morton also played in 2 games but only played a total of 11 minutes early in the 1988 season. Morton scored 6 points on 3 of 4 from the floor with 1 assist & a turnover.

Tracy Jackson in early 1984 played just 10 minutes in 2 games, scoring 6 points with a rebound & turnover.

Sedric Toney managed 9 minutes in his 2 games with 2 points, 2 rebounds & 2 turnovers during February of 1989.

Dick Grubar also appeared in 2 games but only played 8 minutes with totals of 4 points & an assist during 69-70.

Jack Thompson was a stat stuffer with 2 points, 2 assist, a rebound & a couple of turnovers in just 5 minutes in 2 games early in the 68-69 season.

Butch Joyner was also played 5 minutes in 2 games but only managed 1 rebound, also during 68-69

Byron Dinkins completes our group of players with 2 game Pacer careers. Dinkins also played 5 minutes in his 2 games with 2 points & a rebound during January of 91.

The Final 7 to make the list........

Ralph Jackson was a 4th round pick in the 84 draft & made it onto the court for just 1 of the first 4 games that season before being waived. Jackson played 12 minutes going 1-3 from the field for his 2 points, got 1 rebound but did have 4 assist & 2 steals as well as a turnover.

Willie Smith was signed as a free agent on October 14th 1977. Played in his only Pacer game, in the home opener, on October 19th getting just 1 assist in 7 minutes & was waived the following day.

Darvin Ham was aquired from Denver on February 20th 1997 for Jerome Allen. I'm not 100% on the date he released but he did manage to play 5 mniutes in a single game as a Pacer. Ham was 1-1 from the field & 1-2 from the line for 3 total points. He is also credited with a steal & a turnover.

Gerald McKee was a 7th round pick of the 1969 ABA draft & only played in 1 professional game his entire career. McKee appeared in his lone game during the 69-70 season missing his only field goal attempt & other than his 3 minutes played, registered no other stats.

There are also 3 players that actually made the offical Pacers roster but never stepped foot onto the court during a game.

Mate Skelin Signed January 21st, 1999 & was available for all 50 games played during the lock out season but was left standing with his warmups on at the end of each game. Skelin was waived July 1st of 1999.

Scott English was picked up by the Pacers on October 21st, 1975 when the Baltimore Claws of the ABA went under & they held a dispersal draft. Becoming a Pacer just 3 days before the start of the season & setting on the bench the entire 87 games, an 84 game regular season as well as 3 playoff games. English was waived on July 1st of 1976.

Damon Bailey was a 2nd round pick in the 94 draft & made every IU fan a little moist when Walsh called his name. Bailey suffered knee problems while with the Pacers & underwent operations on both during his time here. Following a year of not being able to play the Pacers extended Bailey a qualifying offer on October 3rd of 95 & then one month later on the opening day of the season, waived Damon Bailey.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
02-10-2009, 03:39 AM
Today is February 10th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 6-9 in games played on this date. That includes 6 straight losses between 1974 & 1983.

Happy Birthday

Bruno Sundov 1980
The 7-2, 239 Sundov was a 2nd round pick of the Dallas Mavericks in the 98 draft. As pasrt of a rare 4 team trade on August 16th of 2000, Sundov ended up in Utah. The Jazz waived him on September 22 & the Pacers signed him as a free agent on September 28th.

Sundov played in 33 games as a Pacer during the 00-01 & 01-02 seasons. He is only 1 of 3 players from Croatia to have played for Indiana. Mate Skelin who actually never "played" but was on the roster & Zan Tabak are the other two. Sundov averaged 2.3 points & 1.3 rebounds in just 6.3 minutes a game.

Boston signed him as a free agent in July of 02. The following July he was involved in a trade with Cleveland where he played until being waived in January of 04. The Knicks signed him to a couple of 10 day contracts in January of 04 & re-signed him as a free agent prior to the start of the 04-05 season where he played in 21 games in his final NBA season.

Since leaving the NBA following the 04-05 season, Sundov has played for several different teams internationally.

Time for another addition of My Old School

Here's a reminder of the current list.

1. Indiana ---------- 10
2. UCLA ------------- 7
3. Georgia Tech ----- 6
3. Michigan ---------- 6
5. Arizona State ------ 5
5. Kentucky ---------- 5
5. North Carolina ----- 5
5. Notre Dame ------- 5
5. Purdue ----------- 5

Finishing off the colleges that have given the Pacers 5 players is..... St. John's

Those players are:

Ron Artest
Mark Jackson
George Johnson
Chris Mullin
Malik Sealy

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
02-11-2009, 03:04 AM
Today is February 11th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 9-8 in games played on this date, including 7 of the last 8 dating back to 1987.

Happy Birthday

Jim O'Brien 1952
O'Brien is the 14th Pacer coach, currently in his 2nd season with a 57-77 record. O'Brien was head coach of Wheeling Jesuit from 1982-1987 before moving to the University of Dayton from 1989-1994. O'Brien joined Rick Pitino as an assistant first at Kentucky from 1994-1997 then with the Celtics from 1997-2001.

O'Brien took over as head coach of the Celtics in 2001 when Pitino left to coach Louisville. Following several conflicts with Danny Ainge, O'Brien resigned in January of 2004. Philadelphia hired him beginning with the 04-05 season & replaced him with Maurice Cheeks after one season. The Pacers hired him on May 31, 2007.

O'Brien is the son-in-law of former Pacer coach Jack Ramsey.

Dyron Nix 1967
Nix was a 2nd round pick of the Charlotte Hornets in the 89 draft. The Pacers aquired the 6-7, 210 Tennesse product on draft day in exchange for Stuart Gray. I was PO'd beyond belief too. In his single season as a Pacer, Nix appeared in just 20 games averaging 2.0 points & 1.3 boards in 5.5 minutes per game.

Transactions

On this date in 1992: Jerome Lane was waived following 2, 10 day contracts & appearences in 3 games.

Records

On this date in 1987: Chuck Person set the Pacer record for 3pt FG% going 6-6 in a 121-105 win at Phoenix. Chris Mullin tied the record on March 31, 1998 & Sam Perkins match the mark on April 2, 2000.

On this date in 2007: The Pacers set a team record for the Fewest FT's made when the went 3-9 from the line. Jermaine O'Neal was 3-4 in that 94-80 home win against the LA Clippers. Foster was 0-3, Daniels & Granger each were 0-1.

The .333 FT% also set a record for the lowest FT% in franchise history.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

duke dynamite
02-11-2009, 10:19 AM
Jim O'Brien 1952


O'Brien is the son-in-law of former Pacer coach Jack McKinney.

I did not have the intentions of calling you out. You excel at what you are doing here.

McKinney was his college coach. Jack Ramsay is his father-in-law.

Kuq_e_Zi91
02-11-2009, 10:28 AM
Happy Birthday Coach!

BRushWithDeath
02-11-2009, 12:08 PM
Can you fire someone on their birthday?

Jose Slaughter
02-11-2009, 04:25 PM
I did not have the intentions of calling you out. You excel at what you are doing here.

McKinney was his college coach. Jack Ramsay is his father-in-law.

I was testing you.

Congratulations! :D

duke dynamite
02-11-2009, 10:28 PM
I was testing you.

Congratulations! :D
Do I get a cookie?

Jose Slaughter
02-12-2009, 02:35 AM
Today is February 12th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 7-10 in games played on this date.

Happy Birthday

Scot Pollard 1975
The 6-11, 265 was a first round pick of the Detroit Pistons out of Kansas in the 1997 draft. Pollard played a season at Detroit before being traded to Atlanta where he was waived less than a month later, never taking the court for the Hawks. The Kings signed him just after the start of the lock out season of 98-99 where he played thru the 02-03 season. On July 24th the Pacers aquired Pollard as part of a three team trade that included the Spurs.

In his 3 seasons with Indiana, Pollard averaged 3.0 points, 3.8 rebounds & 14.9 minutes for the 155 games he played.

Following his 3 years as a Pacer, Pollard spent one season in Cleveland then finished his career with the Celtics, picking up a championship ring in 07-08.

Transactions

On this date in 1989: Sedric Toney was waived following his only 10 day contract with Indiana.

Lets do a couple more guys from the Boomarang Club.

These are players that played for the Pacers, were traded or waived & then returned to play for the Pacers a 2nd time.

Players already mentioned:

Steve Chubin
George Peeples
Bob Netolicky
Roger Brown
Freddie Lewis

Jerome Anderson was a third round pick by the Boston Celtics in the 75 NBA draft. The Celtics waived Anderson before the start of the 75-76 season but re-signed him in December of 75 & he finsihed the season in Boston. Just prior to the start of the 76-77 season Boston once again waived him.

On November 3rd of 76, 6 games into the season, the Pacers signed Anderson as a free agent. Anderson was a Pacer until January 17th of 77 when the Pacers waived him. Just over 2 weeks later on February 4th Indiana re-signed him, likley to a 10 day contract. On February 13th of 77 the Pacers waived Jerome Anderson for the last time.

Johnny Neumann first signed with the Memphis Pros of the ABA in July of 71. Neumann was traded to Utah & then Virginia before being traded to Indiana for cash & future considerations on November 13th of 74. Four months later on March 13th of 75 the Pacers traded Neumann back to Virginia for cash & future considerations.

The Squires traded Neumann to Kentucky & when the Colonels folded about 7 months later, Neumann was not taken in the dispersal draft. Following a brief time with the Buffalo Braves he was waived, signed by the Lakers then traded back to Buffalo.

On October 18th of 1977 the Pacers traded a 3rd rounder & future considerations to Buffalo & re-aquired Johnny Neumann. On December 22nd of 77, Neumann was waived for the last time by the Pacers.

Note to Self: You owe Duke 1 cookie at the next party!

That's it for tonight, see ya tomorrow!

Hicks
02-12-2009, 08:35 AM
I liked the way you described the acquisition of Scot Pollard. :laugh:

Slick Pinkham
02-13-2009, 12:45 AM
I liked the way you described the acquisition of Scot Pollard. :laugh:

There is another "he who must not be named"...

sort of a "Brad Voldermort"

:lol2:

Jose Slaughter
02-13-2009, 01:22 AM
Today is February 13th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 9-11 in games played on this date. They started out well, winning 5 of their first 6 games played on February 13th. Lately, not so good, loosing 6 out of the last 7.

Transactions

On this date in 1977: As was mentioned yesterday in the Boomerang Club update, Jerome Anderson was waived for the 2nd & final time.

On this date in 1986: Bryan Warrick was signed as a free agent.

Records

On this date in 1998: The Pacers held the Dallas Mavericks to the fewest points in the first half for a Pacer opponent, with 24. The Pacers went on to loose that game in double overtime 85-82.

Heres the bix score

Team -1 -- 2 -- 3 -- 4 - OT -2OT - T
DAL - 12 - 12 - 29 - 21 - 4 -- 7 -- 85
IND - 24 - 10 - 15 - 25 - 4 -- 4 -- 82

I need to save some trivia for later in the month so.........

That's it for tonight, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
02-14-2009, 12:49 AM
Today is February 14th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 13-10 in games played on this date, including the last 4 dating back to 1998.

Happy Birthday

Tyus Edney 1973
The 5-10, 152 UCLA product was the 2nd round pick of Sacramento in the 1995 draft. Following 2 seasons with the Kings, Edney played for Boston for a year before the Celtics re-nounced his rights in June of 98. Edney was out of the NBA until signing with the Pacers as a free agrent on September 30, 2000.

While with the Pacers Edney averaged 4.4 points, 1 rebound, 2.3 assist & 11 minutes a game for the 24 games he played.

Edney's one year deal expired at the end of the 00-01 season & on August 1st of 01 he signed with Bennetton Trevison of Italy. Since leaving Indiana, Edney has played for 6 different teams in Europe. Edney holds a couple of little known Pacer records as well. He matched Billy Keller as the shortest Pacer at 5'10" & is the only Pacer listed as weighing less than 160lbs, coming in at a reported 152.

Transactions

On this date in 1979 the Pacers signed free agent Brad Davis

That's if for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
02-15-2009, 04:26 AM
Today is February 15th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 10-12 in games played on this date. After losing the first 5 times they played on 2-15, I guess we can live with a 10-12 record.

Happy Birthday

Peter Verhoeven 1959
The 6-9, 215 Verhoeven was a 4th round draft pick from Fresno State in the 1981 NBA draft by the Portland Trailblazers. Verhoeven played 3 years for Portland before being waived shortly before the start of the 84-85. He then spent a year playing for the Kings while they were still in Kansas City & then a season for the Golden State Warriors.

The Pacers signed Verhoeven to back to back 10 day contracts, the first on December 29th of 1986. The 2nd on January 7th of 1987, however he was waived just 3 days later on the 10th.

During his brief time here Verhoeven appeared in 5 games playing a total of 44 minutes. He managed 10 points but it was on 5-14 FG's, a couple of assist & a couple of steals.

Transactions

On this date in 1980: Phil Chenier was waived & Ron Carter was signed as a free agent. Phil, if it makes you feel any better, Carter didn't last long.

On this date in 1983: The Pacers traded Clemon Johnson & their 1984 third round draft pick that turned out to be James Banks at #48 to Philadelphia.

In return the Pacers received Russ Schoene & two draft picks. The first of the picks was a 1st rounder in the 83 draft & the Pacers slected Mitchell Wiggins at #23. The 2nd pick was a 2nd rounder in the 84 draft & the Pacers took my man, Stuart Gray at #29!

Wiggins was delt on draft day to Chicago for Sidney Lowe.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Peck
02-15-2009, 04:30 AM
Thus Clemon uttered the ever famous phrase that being traded from Indy to Phily was like going from the outhouse to the whitehouse.

I hated that trade, I really liked Clemon.

Jose Slaughter
02-15-2009, 05:01 AM
Heres a little Clemon Johnson trivia for ya

In September of 86 Phily trades Johnson along with an 89 1st to Seattle for Tim McCormick, Danny Vranes.

The 1st that Phily traded away turned out to be #17 in the 89 draft & the Sonics used it to take Shawn Kemp.

Jose Slaughter
02-16-2009, 01:35 AM
Today is February 16th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 8-8 in games played on this date.

Happy Birthday

Herb Williams 1959
Williams, from Ohio State, was the 1st round pick of Indiana in the 1981 draft. The 6-11, 240 pound Williams spent the first 7 & a half season as a Pacer averaging 15 points, 7.8 boards, 2.4 assist, 1.9 blocks & 32 minutes in 577 games.

Williams is in the top 10 in several catagories

3rd in Blocked shots

5th in Defensive rebounds

6th in Games played, Turnoverd

7th in Season played, Minutes played, Total rebounds

8th in Personal fouls

10th in FG Made, FG Attempts, Rebound Av.

Williams was traded on February 21st of 89 to the Dallas Mavericks for Detlef Schrempf & a 1990 2nd round draft pick. The Pacers used that draft pick to select Antonio Davis.

Williams remained in Dallas for the last half of the 88-89 season until the end of the 91-92 season. The NY Knicks signed him shortly after the start of the 92-93 season & stayed with the Knicks until he was traded with Doug Christie to Toronto for Willie Anderson, Victor Alexander.

The Raptors waived Williams 1 week later, then just 5 days later he re-signed with NY.

Williams was traded from NY to Phily on February 19th of 98 for Terry Cummings. 2 days later, Phily waived Williams. 4 days later Williams was back in NY where he finished his career by being waiver by the Knicks on September 28th of 99.

Williams has been on the coaching staff in one form or another since December 30 of 2001.

Shawne Williams 1986
Williams was the first round pick from Memphis by the Pacers in the 2006 draft. While a Pacer the 6-9, 225 Williams averaged 5.6 points, 2.3 rebounds & 13.7 minutes in 111 games. Williams was delt to Dallas on October 10th of 2008 for Eddie Jones, 2 future 2nd round draft picks & cash. I've seen that the draft picks are in 2009 & the Pacers have their choice of either 2011 or 2011 second rounders.

Records

The Pacers begin their longest loosing streak in the NBA that would last 12 games, dating from 2-16-83 & lasting until 3-11-83. Indiana would tie this record twice, the first time was from 3-14-85 until 4-3-85 & the last time from 1-26-89 until 2-23-89.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Hicks
02-16-2009, 08:24 AM
I'd been wondering about those second round picks. So one is this year? As for the other, did you mean to say 2010 and 2011, or 2011 and 2012?

Jose Slaughter
02-16-2009, 10:02 AM
I guess we get our choice of what year to take the 2nd pick. We can either take it in 2010 or 2011.

Jose Slaughter
02-17-2009, 03:34 AM
Today is February 17th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are an outstanding 14-4 in games played on this date. They won the first 5 times they played on this date. After a couple of losses the ran off a string of 7 straight wins between 1986 & 1997.

Happy Birthday

Al Harrington 1980
The 6'9'' 230 lb Harrington was a 1st round draft pick of the Pacers in the 98 draft. The St. Patrick's High School product played with Indiana for the next 6 seasons.

On July 15th of 2004 Harrington was traded to Atlanta for Stephen Jackson. On August 22nd of 2006 the Pacers re-aquired Harrington, along with John Edwards, from Atlanta in exchange for a future #1 draft pick & cash. The draft pick turned out to be Acie Law, the #11 pick in 07.

Less than 5 months later, on January 19th of 07 Harrington was traded once again. This time he was moved to the Golden State Warriors along with Stephen Jackson, Sarunas Jasikevicius & Josh Powell for Ike Diogu, Mike Dunleavy Jr., Keith McLeod & Troy Murphy.

During Harrington's 7 seasons with Indiana he averaged 10.7 points, 5.4 rebounds, 1.4 assist, 1.8 turnovers & 26.5 minutes in 390 games.

Shortly after the start of the 08-09 season Harrington was traded to New York for Jamal Crawford, as of this moment Harrington is still a Knick.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
02-18-2009, 01:13 AM
Today is February 18th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 8-10 in games played on this date.

Happy Birthday

Marv Winkler 1948
Winkler, listed as 6-1, 175 out of South West Louisiana, was a 3rd round pick of the Milwaukee Bucks in the 1970 NBA draft. He only appeared in 3 games as a Buck but was with them the year they won the NBA championship, so he has a ring.

The Pacers signed Winkler before the start of the 71-72 season where he averaged 2.0 points, pulled down a total of 16 rebounds & handed out as many assist as turnovers with 12. Winkler played in 20 games in his only season as a Pacer, averaging 7.8 minutes a game.

On August 1st of 1972 the Pacers traded Winkler & cash to the Dallas Chaparrals for Donnie Freeman. He must have been waived before the start of the season because I can't find any stats or info for him after the trade to Dallas.

Transactions

On this date in 1984: Bruce Kuczenski was signed to his first of two, 10 day contracts.

Records

On this date in 1983: The Pacers begin a record 28 game road losing streak with 121-94 loss at Milwaukee. The loosing ended on December 21st, 1983 after a 133-115 defeat at Utah.

Programing note: We have 5 trades to report in the next 2 days

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
02-19-2009, 01:30 AM
Today is February 19th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 8-8 in games played on this date.

Transactions

On this date in 1999: Haywoode Workman was waived.

On this date in 2002: The Pacers traded

Travis Best, Norm Richardson, Jalen Rose & a future 2nd round draft pick (2002, #43 Lonnie Baxter)

to the Chicago Bulls for

Ron Artest, Ron Mercer, Brad Miller & Kevin Ollie.

Lets do another Pacers by the Numbers

Who wore jersey #7?

Bobby Wilson was the Pacers 9th round draft pick in the 1973 "senior draft" but didn't sign with the Pacers until the summer of 77 & played in just 12 games before being waived on December 8th of 1977.

Dudley Bradley was the 13th pick in the first found of the 79 draft. After playing the 79-80 & 80-81 seasons with Indiana, Bradley was delt to Phoenix.

Tracy Jackson was signed as a free agent on January 12th of 1984 & only played in 2 games. My guess is this was a 10 day contract & Jackson was not re-signed.

Bruce Kuczenski was signed to back to back, 10 day contracts, the first on February 18th of 1984. Kucaenski was waived on March 9th 1984.

Devin Durrant was a 2nd round pick in the 84 draft & played the complete 84-85 season before being waived on October 4th of 1985.

Michael Brooks was signed to back to back 10 day contracts. The first on January 1st of 1987, Brooks was waived on January 21st.

Reggie Williams was aquired on June 13th of 1996 along with Jalen Rose & a first round pick (#10 Erick Dampier) from Denver for Mark Jackson, Ricky Pierce & a first round pick (#23-Efthimis Retzias). Williams played in just two games for the Pacers before being traded to New Jersey for Vincent Askew on November 4th of 1996.

Jermaine O'Neal & Joe Klein were aquired for Dale Davis on August 31st of 2000. O'neal was with the Pacers for 8 full seasons before being traded with Nathan Jawai to Toronto for Maceo Baston, T.J. Ford, Roy Hibbert & Rasho Nesterovic.

No current Pacer is wearing jersey #7.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Easy
02-19-2009, 12:09 PM
This is totally the best thread of all time on Pacers' Digest--even dating back to the original Star board in 97 when the core of this group was posting there. The thread can go until it comes f365 ull circle, I guess.

Anyway, thanks a lot. I look forward to it every day.

Jose Slaughter
02-20-2009, 02:04 AM
Today is February 20th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 11-8 in games played on this date.

Happy Birthday

Rawle Marshall 1982
The 6-7, 190 Marshall was origianlly a free agent signee of the Dallas Mavericks on August 6th of 2005. Born in Georgetown, Guyana, Marshall was the salutatorian of his senior class & attended attened Ball State before transferring to Oakland University. The Pacers Anthony Johnson traded for Marshall along with Darrell Armstrong & Josh Powell on July 24th of 2006.

In the single season Marshall was a Pacer, 06-07, he played in 40 games with averages of 2.5 points & .7 rebounds while totaling 13 assist, 12 steals & 19 turnovers in 9 minutes a game.

Phoenix signed Marshall as a free agent on October 1st of 07 but waived him 12 days later, on the 13th. Since 2007 Marshall has played for several teams overseas & is currently with Lokomotiv Rostov of the Russian Super League.

Transaactions

On this date in 1989: The Pacers waived John Long.

Also on this date in 89 Wayman Tisdale & a 2nd round pick was traded to Sacramento for LaSalle Thompson & Randy Wittman.

On this date in 1997: The Pacers traded Vincent Askew, Eddie Johnson, a 97 2nd round draft pick (#41 Jason Lawson) & a 98 2nd round draft pick (#54 Tremaine Fowlkes) to the Denver Nuggets to get 2 former Pacers back, Mark Jackson & LaSalle Thompson.

So LaSalle Thompson was aquired in two different trades on the same date 8 years apart!

Also on this date in 1997 the Pacers traded Jerome Allen to the Nuggets for Darvin Ham.

Records

On this date in 1972: The Pacers set a franchise record for most rebounds in a game with 81 in a 131-127 double overtime win at Memphis. In 72 Memphis was known as the Pros. Just one of 3 cities & 6 nick names they had in 9 years.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Slick Pinkham
02-20-2009, 01:01 PM
On this date in 1972: The Pacers set a franchise record for most rebounds in a game with 81 in a 131-127 double overtime win at Memphis. In 72 Memphis was known as the Pros. Just one of 3 cities & 6 nick names they had in 9 years.


I remember the Tams, Pros, and Sounds. Before that they were in New Orleans, and then they moved to Baltimore (Claws?) but folded right away.

The Memphis Sounds might as well have been named "old Pacers gone south" after Mike Storen (ex Pacers GM) took them over, gutted their roster, and signed Mel Daniels, Freddie Lewis, Roger Brown, and Rick Mount.

Thankfully Freddie and Roger found their way back eventually, to retire as Pacers.

Jose Slaughter
02-21-2009, 01:42 AM
Today is February 21st, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 11-7 in games played on this date, including a string of four straight wins dating back to 1999.

Happy Birthday

Jack Ramsay 1925
Dr. Jack graduated from St. Joseph's in 1949 & following some coaching at the high school & minor league level returned to St. Joseph's in 1955, leading them to 10 post season appearances in his 11 years there.

After leaving St. Joseph's in 1966, Ramsay became GM of the Philadelphia, leading them to their first Championship in 1967. He then took over head coaching duties for the following four seasons, 1968 thru 1972. Ramsay then moved on to become head coach of the Buffalo Braves from 72-76 before leaving the team to become coach of the Portland Trailblazers.

In his first season in Portland, 76-77, Ramsay lead the Trailblazers to their only NBA title. He would remain with Portland thru the 85-86 season before taking the head coaching position with Indiana.

Ramsay became our 5th head coach on August 8th of 1986 & during his first season the Pacers went 41-41. This was a 15 game improvement over the previous season & earned the Pacers thier first playoff berth in six years.

In 87-88 the Pacer record slipped to 38-44 & we missed the playoffs.

The following year in the middle of a 5 game road trip, after a loss at Phoenix dropped the Pacer record to 0-7, Ramsay retired from coaching.

Ramsay was elected to the Hall of Fame in 1992 & is currently the 7th winningest coach in NBA history with a 864-783 record.

Transactions

On this date in 1989: The Pacers traded Herb Williams to the Dallas Mavericks for Detlef Schrempf & a 1990 2nd round draft pick that was used to select Antonio Davis.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
02-22-2009, 05:01 AM
Today is February 22nd, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 12-7 in games played on this date. Between 1985 & 1998 we won 6 in a row & are currently on a 3 game winning streak dating back to 2004.

Happy Birthday

George Washington 1732
Washington actually never played for the Pacers, having died almost 168 years before the ABA was created. However, he is the father of oyr country, the 1st prez & all that so I thought I'd give him a little shout out on what would have been his 277th birthday.

Plus there's no real Pacer birthdays, transactions or records to report today.

So, let play........ My Old School

These are the colleges that have given us the most Pacers. Here is the current list

1. Indiana ------- 10
2. UCLA ---------- 7
3. Georgia Tech -- 6
3. Michigan ------ 6
5. Arizona State -- 5
5. Kentucky ------ 5
5. North Carolina -- 5
5. Notre Dame ---- 5
5. Purdue --------- 5
5. St. John's ------ 5



Coming in at #11 is a school that these former Pacers attened.

Devin Durrant
John Fairchild
Greg Kite
Craig Raymond

Starting a 6 way tie for 11th is Brigham Young, ot BYU

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
02-23-2009, 03:27 AM
Today is February 23rd, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 9-12 in games played on this date.

Today is the 2nd of 3 that has no birthdays, transactions or records to mention.

Lets do another Pacers by the Numbers

So, you ask.... what players in Pacer history wore jersey #8?

Well. I'll tell ya.

Willie Smith Was a 2nd round pick of the 1976 NBA draft by the Chicago Bulls but only played one game before being waived. Phily signed him at the tail end of the 77 season & waived him just after the start of 77-78, without playing a game for the 76er's. The Pacers signed Smith on October 14th of 77 & he did manage to play 1 game here before being waived on October 20th.

Mickey Johnson Was the 4th round pick of the Trailblazers in the 1974 NBA draft but was delt to the Bulls before the start of the 74-75 season. The Pacers signed Johnson away from the Bulls on July 17th of 1979 & he remained a Pacer until he was traded to Milwaukee on September 11th of 1980.

Tony Brown was an undrafted free agent signing of September 28th of 1984. After playing one full season, Brown was waived on October 22nd of 85. assist to Count 55

Eddie Johnson The road that Johnson took to the Pacers is a very long one & its much to late for me to go into it in detail. Long story - short, the Pacers signed Johnson as a free agent on October 2nd of 1995 & was part of a traded to Denver on February 20th of 1997 that returned Mark Jackson & LaSalle Thompson to Indiana.

Lari Ketner I've got several different dates for the signing of Lari Ketner, all sometime in September of 2000. Considering he only played in 3 games & must have been waived very early in the season, I'm not going to loose much sleep over the actual dates.

Anthony Johnson Former New Jersey Net, Johnson was signed as a free agent on July 25th of 2003 & spent the 03-04, 04-05 & 05-06 seasons here. AJ was traded to Dallas on July 24th of 2006. assist to Count 55

Rasho Nesterovic Nesterovic is currently in his first season as a Pacer after arriving via a trade with the Raptors on July 9th of 08.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

cramerica
02-23-2009, 07:30 AM
I can't believe AJ was traded almost 4 years ago. Doesn't seem like it was that long ago that he played with us.

count55
02-23-2009, 07:48 AM
Anthony Johnson Former New Jersey Net, Johnson was signed as a free agent on July 25th of 2003 & spent the 03-04 & 04-05 seasons here. AJ was traded to Dallas on July 24th of 2005.



I can't believe AJ was traded almost 4 years ago. Doesn't seem like it was that long ago that he played with us.

You know, that surprised me, too, so I looked it up:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/johnsan02.html

AJ was here during the 2005-2006 seasons, participating in the Pacers' most recent playoff appearance. The series remembered for the game which prompted ChicagoJ to add a wing on his house to create a most holy shrine in AJ's honor. ;)

He was actually traded July of 2006.

Jose Slaughter
02-23-2009, 09:20 AM
You know, that surprised me, too, so I looked it up:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/johnsan02.html

AJ was here during the 2005-2006 seasons, participating in the Pacers' most recent playoff appearance. The series remembered for the game which prompted ChicagoJ to add a wing on his house to create a most holy shrine in AJ's honor. ;)

He was actually traded July of 2006.

Fixed & thanks

Thats another cookie I owe.

Current Cookie Count:
Count 55 - 2
Duke Dynamite - 1

I'm kinda surprised thats the only error I made lastnight. I've been sick for 3 days, sleeping 2 & 3 hours at a time. That plus the drugs I'm taking & it being after 3 in the morning I'm suprised I didn't call him Lyndon Johnson!

count55
02-23-2009, 09:30 AM
Fixed & thanks

Thats another cookie I owe.

I'm kinda surprised thats the only error I made lastnight. I've been sick for 3 days, sleeping 2 & 3 hours at a time. That plus the drugs I'm taking & it being after 3 in the morning I'm suprised I didn't call him Lyndon Johnson!

Would that make Larry "Lady Bird?"

count55
02-23-2009, 09:39 AM
Tony Brown was the 7th round pick of the Pacers in the 1983 NBA draft. However Brown didn't sign until September of 1984. After playing one full season, Brown was waived on October 22nd of 85.

Ummm....

:shufflesfeetandsheepishlyclearshisthroat:

Actually, the Tony Brown that the Pacers drafted in 1983 was from Indiana and never played in the NBA.

The Tony Brown that played for the Pacers and wore #8 went to Arkansas and was the 4th round pick of the New Jersey Nets in 1982.

The reason I remember this is because of the way that Brown made the team. After the Simons bought the Pacers (IIRC), they instituted what they called their "Walter Mitty Camp," which I think was an open try out for free agent players. Now, this may basically be the same as the rookie/free agent camps they have today, but the way I remember it being presented at the time was as some real long shot open tryout, kinda like the scene from "The Fish That Saved Pittsburgh." That may be apocryphal, but it was a long time ago.

I kinda followed Tony that season, because he got 26 starts, and I remembered the press he got during training camp.

Jose Slaughter
02-24-2009, 02:31 AM
Today is February 24th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 12-8 in games played on this date.

Once again Count 55 has caught an error. His "Tony Brown" correction in post 161 is 100% correct. I'll change my original post & once again thank him for his help.

Lets see how well I do today.

I'm going to add a couple more members to the Boomarang Club. These are players that played for the Pacers, were waived or traded & then returned to play here a second time.

These are the players mentioned previously.

Steve Chubin
George Peeples
Bob Netolicky
Freddie Lewis
Roger Brown
Johnny Neumann
Jerome Anderson

Today we'll add a couple more.

Billy Knight
In April of 1974 Knight was a first round selection of the ABA Pacers. A month later the Lakers took him in the 2nd round of the NBA draft. On July 29th of 74 Knight signed with the Pacers.

Knight played 3 full seasons with the Pacers before being delt to the Buffalo Braves on September 1st of 77 for Mike Bantom & Adrian Dantley.

Knight played a full season in Buffalo but during the following summer the Braves moved to San Diego & became the Clippers. Also during that summer Knight was packaged along with Nate Archibald, Marvin Barnes, an 81 2nd rounder (#31-Danny Ainge) & an 83 2nd rounder (#28-Rod Foster) in a deal with the Celtics for Kevin Kunnert, Kermit Washington, Sidney Wicks & the rights to Freeman Williams.

Knight was a Celtic from August 4th of 78 until being traded to Indiana for Rick Robey on January 16th of 79.

Knight finished out the remainder of the 78-79 season here then went on to complete four more full seasons as a Pacer. He was traded away once again on September 17th of 83. This time as part of a 3 team trade with the then Kansas City Kings & the NY Knicks. Knight & our 84 2nd rounder (#43-Greg Wiltjer) ended up in KC, the Pacers came away with Brook Steppe, Vince Taylor & NY's #1 in 84 that we used to select Vern Fleming.

George McGinnis
The Pacers draft McGinnis on July 1st of 1971 as an undergraduate & gave up thier 1st round pick in the 72 draft to do so. Big Mac played four full season in Indiana before signing with Philadelphia on July 10th of 75.

After 3 seasons with the 76ers McGinnis was traded along with a 78 1st rounder (#21 Mike Evans) to the Denver Nuggets for Bobby Jones, Ralph Simpson & a #1 in the 84 draft (#10 Leon Wood).

McGinnis would play just a year & a half in Denver before being traded back to the Pacers on February 1st of 1980 for Alex English & a 1980 1st rounder (#23 Carl Nicks).

McGinnis played for the Pacers for two more complete seasons before being waived on October 27th of 82.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

count55
02-24-2009, 07:25 AM
Prior to Reggie, Billy Knight was my favorite NBA Pacer. I was a Pacer fan as a young child, but really committed to them, and basketball in general, in the 1980-81 season. That was my freshman year of high school, and, in the fall of 1980, I began listening to both Pacer and IU basketball on my snazzy new all-in-one radio and turntable.

That was the first Pacer NBA playoff team, and Knight was the best player on it. However, I also remember old Pacer favorites on that team like George McGinnis and Don Buse, though they were shells of their former selves. We had three second round picks that year, with Dick Miller and Kenny Natt getting minimal playing time. However, I remember Louis Orr out of Syracuse, and his baseline jumper that Lamey would say was from "Orr-ville." (We had traded our 1st rounder to Philly years earlier for Mel Bennett. (Exactly.) Philly used it to select Andrew Toney. Doh!)

"Hockey" Bob Lamey did the call, and every shot was a "running one hander" that went "in-and-out." (Kids, you have no idea how blessed we have been to have Mark Boyle, without doubt in my mind the finest radio announcer I've ever heard.) As with the Colts, despair would ooze out of the radio from him at the first sign of the Pacers struggling or the other team surging. (In many ways, it was like reading the game threads.)

Then I remember them trading BK for (what I thought was) Brooke Steppe, who, besides being mediocre as all get out, had one of the worst perms I've ever seen. Of course that was during the Nassi swoon, and shortly thereafter we had lost James Edwards and Johnny Davis because we simply couldn't afford them. This story may be apocryphal, but supposedly one of the last things Nassi tried to do before selling the Pacers to the Simons was to sell our 1983 1st Round pick to Houston. That was the coin flip for Sampson, and on the day of the coin flip, Nassi agreed to sell the pick (before the toss) to Houston for the princely sum of $750,000. As this was towards the end of Ted Stepien's reign of terror in Cleveland, the NBA interceded and negated the deal for competitive purposes. (Again, not sure if that's true, or just urban myth.)

Jose Slaughter
02-24-2009, 07:33 AM
Thanks for the story.

I can't tell ya how nervous I was when I logged on & saw you had posted in this thread.

count55
02-24-2009, 07:48 AM
Thanks for the story.

I can't tell ya how nervous I was when I logged on & saw you had posted in this thread.

Then I apologize.

I can think of no worse thing I can do than to make you nervous or self-conscious about this thread. I love the memories it elicits, and the Tony Brown thing was much more about remembering reading that article and watching him play all those years ago than correcting you.

I can see my bedroom and hear Bob Lamey's voice when I read these posts.

Thanks.

Jose Slaughter
02-24-2009, 09:41 AM
Apologize is what I should be doing.

I'm the one passing along the wrong info. I'm just glad I've got you watching my back making sure I get some of this stuff right.

The Tony Brown error I can live with. The names & dates were close enough that I could understand missing it. The AJ mistake I can chalk up to a combination of three things: 1, I'd had a serious cold for a couple days. 2, I was on so much medication I was surprsied I could set up straight. 3, It was 3 in the morning & I don't think I'd slept longer than 3 hours at a time for about 3 days.

Thats my story & I'm stickin' to it!

Seriously, I'm having a blast doing this & I'm glad it hasn't become a bore for either the board or myself.

Jose Slaughter
02-25-2009, 02:02 AM
Today is February 25th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 9-11 in games played on this date.

Happy Birthday

Samaki Walker 1976
On June 21st of 1996 the Dallas Mavericks traded their 96 (#6 Antoine Walker) & 97 (#6 Ron Mercer) 1st round draft picks to Boston for Eric Montross & the Celtics #1 in 96 (Samaki Walker #9).

Following his 3 years with the Mavs Walker was signed as a free agent by San Antonio for 2 season, the Lakers for 2 seasons, then Miami & Washington for 1 season each. The Wizards waived the former Louiseville star on March 18th of 2005. Indiana signed him on September 29th of 05 & Walker played a total of 22 minutes over 7 games before being waived January 4th of 06. While on the court for Indiana, Walker scored 2 points, pulled down 3 boards, committed a couple turnover & registered 1 block.

The 6-9, 250 lb Walker sat out the remainder of the 06-07 season before signing with the Bucks in the fall of 07 but was waived before the start of the season. Walker played for the Santa Barbara Breakers of the IBL in 07-08 & has since played in Syria, Jordon & is currently in Lebanon.

Transactions

On this date in 1980: The Pacers waived Ron Carter

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Peck
02-25-2009, 02:12 AM
Prior to Reggie, Billy Knight was my favorite NBA Pacer. I was a Pacer fan as a young child, but really committed to them, and basketball in general, in the 1980-81 season. That was my freshman year of high school, and, in the fall of 1980, I began listening to both Pacer and IU basketball on my snazzy new all-in-one radio and turntable.

That was the first Pacer NBA playoff team, and Knight was the best player on it. However, I also remember old Pacer favorites on that team like George McGinnis and Don Buse, though they were shells of their former selves. We had three second round picks that year, with Dick Miller and Kenny Natt getting minimal playing time. However, I remember Louis Orr out of Syracuse, and his baseline jumper that Lamey would say was from "Orr-ville." (We had traded our 1st rounder to Philly years earlier for Mel Bennett. (Exactly.) Philly used it to select Andrew Toney. Doh!)

"Hockey" Bob Lamey did the call, and every shot was a "running one hander" that went "in-and-out." (Kids, you have no idea how blessed we have been to have Mark Boyle, without doubt in my mind the finest radio announcer I've ever heard.) As with the Colts, despair would ooze out of the radio from him at the first sign of the Pacers struggling or the other team surging. (In many ways, it was like reading the game threads.)

Then I remember them trading BK for (what I thought was) Brooke Steppe, who, besides being mediocre as all get out, had one of the worst perms I've ever seen. Of course that was during the Nassi swoon, and shortly thereafter we had lost James Edwards and Johnny Davis because we simply couldn't afford them. This story may be apocryphal, but supposedly one of the last things Nassi tried to do before selling the Pacers to the Simons was to sell our 1983 1st Round pick to Houston. That was the coin flip for Sampson, and on the day of the coin flip, Nassi agreed to sell the pick (before the toss) to Houston for the princely sum of $750,000. As this was towards the end of Ted Stepien's reign of terror in Cleveland, the NBA interceded and negated the deal for competitive purposes. (Again, not sure if that's true, or just urban myth.)

Oddly enough your story and mine are very similar. Billy Knight was also always my favorite player growing up. I had his Marsh poster on my wall until the day I got married and moved away. I remember it was a big poster of Billy doing a scoop shot and along the bottom you could cut out and paste the faces of the other team members.

He was also a very nice man to speak with and never acted like he was above anyone who would come up to him after his career was over and he was helping the Pacers in the front office.

I wonder if you remember Joey "Sonar" Hasset from back in the day as well?

count55
02-25-2009, 08:00 AM
Oddly enough your story and mine are very similar. Billy Knight was also always my favorite player growing up. I had his Marsh poster on my wall until the day I got married and moved away. I remember it was a big poster of Billy doing a scoop shot and along the bottom you could cut out and paste the faces of the other team members.

He was also a very nice man to speak with and never acted like he was above anyone who would come up to him after his career was over and he was helping the Pacers in the front office.

I wonder if you remember Joey "Sonar" Hasset from back in the day as well?

I remember Joe Hassett, for three reasons: he was the mad three-point bomber for the Pacers in the first year it was legal in the NBA, hitting 69 of the 88 three's the Pacers hit that year; he was taken by Dallas in expansion draft in 1980; and whenever I heard his name when listening to the radio, I pictured a bassett hound.

I just checked the stats to be sure about my memories, and the 3P numbers were amazing that year. There were only 1,403 made, the average for a team was 64, on .280 shooting. The Pacers' 88 was fourth (and Hassett made almost 80% of those). The San Diego Clippers were 1st in makes with 177, but only shot .326. (Brian Taylor hit 90.) The Celtics led the league with .384 shooting (SD was 2nd) and were second with 162 makes. Chris Ford hit the first three in NBA history, and his 70 for the season led the C's and was a stunning (at that time) .427. A rookie named Larry Bird set the rookie record with 58, hitting .407. (A record that stood for almost a decade until a skinny former UCLA Bruin splashed 61...long since shattered.)

The Houston Rockets were third with 104, but shot only .274. (The Pacers were dead on the league average at .280.) Rick Barry dropped 73 (.330), while Rudy Tomjanovich added 22 (.278).

Only five guys (Taylor, Barry, Ford, Hassett, and Bird) made more than 50 three's that season. Only 12 attempted more than 100. Only Fred Brown, Chris Ford, and Larry Bird took more than one attempt per game and shot over 40%.

Last season, 127 players made 50 or more three's, while 158 attempted 100 or more. The average team made 537 threes on 1,485 attempts, or .362 average. No team shot worse than .317.

It's really easy to forget that the three-point play was considered a desperation play for a very, very long time in the NBA.

Jose Slaughter
02-26-2009, 02:37 AM
Today is February 26th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 14-11 in games played on this date.

Not much happening today so we'll do another My Old School

Here's the up to date list

1. Indiana ------- 10
2. UCLA ---------- 7
3. Georgia Tech -- 6
3. Michigan ------ 6
5. Arizona State -- 5
5. Kentucky ------ 5
5. North Carolina -- 5
5. Notre Dame ---- 5
5. Purdue --------- 5
5. St. John's ------ 5
11. Brigham Young - 4

Todays college has given us the following Pacers.

Roger Brown
Johnny Davis
Bob Hooper
Sedric Toney

Tied for 11th is Dayton

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

RamBo_Lamar
02-26-2009, 10:24 AM
"Hockey" Bob Lamey did the call, and every shot was a "running one hander" that went "in-and-out." (Kids, you have no idea how blessed we have been to have Mark Boyle, without doubt in my mind the finest radio announcer I've ever heard.)


Must fully agree that Mark Boyle is the best....of historical proportions.

I used to think Mike Englis was pretty good, but nobody has done the
Pacers broadcasts even in the same league as Mr. Boyle.

The 2 bobbleheads I have of him and Slick are the only bobbleheads
I've ever purchased.


:buddies:

Jose Slaughter
02-27-2009, 03:29 AM
Today is February 27th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 7-12 in games played on this date.

Happy Birthday

Wilbert Jones 1947
The 6-8 205 Jones was drafted by the Miami Floridians in the 1969 ABA draft, playing just 1 season in Miami. Jones was traded during the off season of 1970 to the then New Orleans Buccaneers. The club re-located to Memphis to start the 70-71 season & changed their name to the Pros. Jones stayed with Memphis thru 4 seasons and another name change, this time to the Tams. Following the 73-74 season Jones signed as a free agent with the Kentucky Colonels. The Colonls folded after the 75-76 season & Jones was selected by the Pacers with the 8th pick in the dispersal draft.

Jones, from Albany State, was a Pacer for just the 76-77 season. Playing in 80 games Jones averaged 13.0 points, 7.6 boards, 2.4 assist, 1.3 steals & 1 block in 33.9 minutes a game.

In October of 77 the Buffalo Braves signed Jones as a free agent, the Pacers were compensated with a 1980 2nd round pick that turned out to be Kenny Natt & cash.

Jones played with the Braves during their final season in Buffalo. He was waived by the team after the move to Los Angeles to become the Clippers but before the start of the season.

Jones has 3 brothers that also played in the NBA: Caldwell Jones, Charles Jones, and Major Jones.

Charlie Edge 1950
The 6-6, 210 Edge played college ball at Lemoyne-Owen. In April of 72 Edge was drafted by the Pittsburgh Condors of the ABA. In June of 72 the Condors folded & the Memphis Pros aquired the unsigned Edge's right in the 5th round of the dispersal draft.

In July of 72 the Memphis Pros became the Memphis Tams & Edge remained unsigned.

In April of 73 the NBA Knicks selected Edge in the 11th round of the draft.

In October of 73 Edge finally signed with Memphis, still the Tams at that time. He managed to play the entie 73-74 season before Memphis changed their name again, this time to Sounds.

Just two days after the last Memphis name change, July 26th to be exact. The Pacers aquired Edge in a trade for Mel Daniels & Freddie Lewis. Edge played the 74-75 season with Indiana averaging 5.9 points & 4.4 boards in 14.8 minutes a game.

On September 11th of 1980 the Pacers traded Edge to Utah for cash & the Jazz waived him before the start of the season.

Terence Stansbury 1961
The 6-5, 175 lb. Stansbury was a 1st round pick out of Temple by the Dallas Mavericks in the 84 NBA Draft. Stansbury was traded to Indiana along with Bill Garnett on October 22nd of 84 for a 1990 1st round draft pick that turned out to be #14, Travis Mayes.

Stansbury played the 84-85 & 85-86 seasons as a Pacer with averages of 6.9 points, 1.7 rebounds, 2.3 assist & 1.5 turnover in 17.6 minutes a game.

On October 2nd of 86 Stansbury was traded along with Russ Schoene to Seattle for John Long and a 1993 2nd rounder, used to select Spencer Dunkley at #53. He played just one season in Seattle before being waived on October 28th of 87.

Stansbury did rather well in the NBA dunk contest. In 85 he finished 3rd behind Dominic Wilkins & Michael Jordon and ahead of Dr. J & Larry Nance.

1986 was the Spud Webb year with Dominic finishing 2nd & Stansbury 3rd.

In 87 Jordon returned to win again. Stansbury placed 3rd behind Jerone Kersey.

It should also be mentioned that his daughter Tiffany is a member of the Minnesota Lynx of the WNBA.

Records

On this date in 1987: The Pacers pulled down a franchise low for Fewest Defensve Rebounds with 12 in a 125-115 loss at New Jersey.

On this date in 1998: The Pacers set their franchise record for largest home victory margin of 65 points with a 124-59 victory over the Portland Trailblazers.

Check out the box score:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199802270IND.html

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

duke dynamite
02-27-2009, 09:10 AM
I've always liked the name Charlie Edge.

Slick Pinkham
02-27-2009, 12:08 PM
I've always liked the name Charlie Edge.


Had the internet been around back then, I'm sure that some poster (maybe more than one) would have "gone PFFL" over the trade of Mel Daniels & Freddie Lewis for a guy who would score 5.9 ppg.

A modern equivalent would have been trading Reggie Miller at the end of his career for Eddie Gill.

Peck
02-27-2009, 12:26 PM
Mark Jackson went 4-5 from behind the arc in that game vs. the Blazers, I had forgotten that.

Jose Slaughter
02-27-2009, 12:42 PM
I think that game was payback for Drexler once saying we were a CBA team.

cramerica
02-27-2009, 12:56 PM
That 98 team was probably my favorite to watch. From Reggie to the Mayor to Dale/Antonio to Jalen.

count55
02-27-2009, 01:31 PM
Mark Jackson went 4-5 from behind the arc in that game vs. the Blazers, I had forgotten that.

Hey, isn't that Lucas Buck?

Peck
02-27-2009, 01:34 PM
Hey, isn't that Lucas Buck?

Good eye.

count55
02-27-2009, 01:41 PM
Good eye.

http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showpost.php?p=854260&postcount=1600

Hicks
02-27-2009, 04:13 PM
What's amazing is that no single Pacer scored 20 points that game.

Oh, and looking at that box score reminds me how their bench was the equivalent of a losing team's starting five. Awesome.

Jose Slaughter
02-28-2009, 02:48 AM
Today is February 28th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 10-9 in games played on this date. However we've won 6 of the last 7 dating back to 1992.

Happy Birthday

Adrian Dantley 1956
Dantley was traded twice before he was even drafted. The first time was September 16th of 1974. Utah traded Dennis Awtrey, Nate Hawthorne, Curtis Perry & thier #1 in 76 (#6 Adrian Dantley) to Phoenix for Neal Walk & a 75 2nd round pick (#22-Clyde Mayes).

On May 29th of 75 Buffalo traded their 1st round pick in the 75 draft to Phoenix for a 76 #1, the pick that Utah had given them a year yearlier. The Suns selected Ricky Sobers at #16 in the 75 draft. The Braves took Dantley at #6 in the 76 NBA draft.

Dantley won rookie of the year in 76-77 while with the Braves but was traded along with Mike Bantom to Indiana for Billy Knight on September 1st of 1977

The 6-5, 210 Dantley played college ball at Notre Dame & was a Pacer for only 3 months & 12 days. Appearing in just 23 games AD averaged 26.5 points on .499 FG%, 9.4 rebounds, 2.8 assist, 2.1 steals, .7 blocks & 41.2 minutes a game. On December 13 of 77 Dantley & Dave Robisch were delt to the Lakers for James Edwards, Earl Tatum & cash.

The Lakers held onto Dantely thru the 78-79 season before dealing him to Utah for Spencer Haywood on September 13 of 1979. AD won the NBA scoring title in 81 & 84 while with Utah, in 81 he averages 30.1 in 84, 30.6. Dantley made the All Star team in 6 of the 7 years he was with the Jazz. His only miss between 1980 & 1986 was in 83 when he missed 60 games with torn ligaments in his wrist.

In August of 1986 the Jazz traded Dantley along with 2 2nd round draft picks, 1987 (#38-Norris Coleman) & 1990 (#49-Phil Henderson) to the Detroit Pistons for Kent Benson & Kelly Tripucka.

After 2 and a half seasons the Pistons traded Dantley & a 1991 1st round pick (#19-LaBradford Smith) to Dallas for Mark Aquirre on February 15th of 1989. Dantley remained with Dallas thru the 89-90 season before being waived on May 2nd of 1990.

The Bucks signed him in April of 91 where he played the final 10 games of his career.

Dantley won a gold medal in the 1976 Monteal games, was inducted into the Hall of Fame just last year & is currently an assistant with the Denver Nuggets.

Duane Ferrell 1965
The 6-7, 215 Georgia State product was undrafted in the 3 rounds of the 1988 NBA draft. Between June 10th of 1988 & July 1st of 1993 the Atlanta Hawks signed Ferrell 4 times while waiving him 3.

On September 30th of 1994 the Pacers signed him as a free agent. In his 3 seasons with the Pacers, Ferrell played in a total of 172 games averaging 4.8 points & 1.9 boards in 13.4 minutes a game.

On August 12th of 97 Ferrell & Erick Dampier were traded to the Golden State Warriors for Chris Mullin. He played the 97-98 season with the Warriors & was traded to, of all places, Atlanta on June 29th of 1999. In that deal Golden State sent Ferrell, Bimbo Coles & their 1999 1st rounder, #10 Jason Terry to Atlanta for Mookie Blaylock & thier 1999 1st round pick, #21 Jeff Foster.

The Pacers aquired Foster the very next day in a draft day deal, but that another story.

The Hawks waived Ferrell on August 16th of 1999 but true to form they hired him back. It took awhile but on September 4th of 2008 he was hired as player relations and programs manager.

Vincent Askew 1966
Askew was a 2nd round pick of Philadelphia in the 1987 NBA draft. The 76er's waived him after just 14 games of the 87-88 season.

He was signed & waived by Washington in the fall of 88.

In April of 91 Askew was signed by the Warriors to finish the rest of the 90-91 season as well as the 91-92.

On October 2nd of 92 he's signed by the Kings but only plays 9 games in Sacramento before being traded to Seattle for a 1993 2nd rounder (#52-Mike Peplowski).

Askew found a home in Seattle playing most of 92-93 plus an additional 3 full years. However he was once again traded. This time on July 16th of 96 to New Jersey for Greg Graham.

He didn't last long with the Nets. After playing in just 1 game New Jersey shipped him to Indiana on November 4th of 1996 for Reggie Williams. While a Pacer the 6-6, 235 Askew played in just 41 games, averaging 5.1 points, 2.4 rebounds, 2.2 assist, 1 turnover & 20 minutes per game. On February 20th pf 97 Askew was traded to his 3rd team that season. This time he was traded along with Eddie Johnson, a 97 2nd round pick (#41-Jason Lawson) & a 98 2nd round pick (#54-Tremaine Fowlkes) to the Denver Nuggets for Mark Jackson & LaSalle Thompson,

He didn't have much success in Denver either, playing just 1 game the rest of the season, The Nuggets waived him on July 7th of 97.

He signed with Portland in September of 97 but was waived before the end of the season, March 24th of 98.

His failed attempts at playing overseas & coaching both here & in Europe are far to numberous to mention.

Jamaal Tinsley 1978
Tinsley started out as a draft pick owned by the Lakers but was involved in a 4 team trade on September 20th of 2000, ending up with the New York Knicks.

On January 30th of 2001 the pick that would eventually turn out to yield Jamaal Tinsley was traded along with Erick Strickland & a 2001 2nd rounder (#47-Antonis Fotsis) from the Knicks to the Vancouver Grizzlies for Othello Harrington.

We're upto draft day June 27th 2001. First off the Grizzlies swing a deal with the Hawks. The Grizzlies are now in Memphis & they trade Shareef Abdur-Rahim & the rights to Jamaal Tinsley to Atlanta for Lorenzen Wright, Brevin Knight & the rights to Pau Gasol. This trade was made on draft night but could not become offical until July 19th.

Next Atlanta traded Tinsley's draft rights to the Pacers for a future 1st round draft pick. That pick was used by the Hawks in 2003 to select Boris Diaw at #21.

When it was all said & done it looks like we traded Boris Diaw for Jamaal Tinsley, try to sleep with that thought running thru your head tonight!

The 6-3, 195 Tinsley is currently in his 8th season with the Pacers. I think its safe to assume that he won't be adding to his stats here in Indiana so I can report that he's averaged 10.4 points, 3.4 rebounds, 7 assist, 1.7 steals & 2.9 turnover on his 30.2 minutes played per game in his 398 game career, all with Indiana.

We're all painfully aware of all things Tinsley so I'll pass on re-hashing anything here.

Josh McRoberts 1987
The 6-10, 240 Duke star was drafted by the Portland Trailbalzers in the 2nd round of the 2007 NBA draft. After playing in just 8 games his rookie season McRoberts was traded to the Pacers along with Jarrett Jack, the right to Brandon Rush & cash considerations for Ike Diogu & the draft right to Jerryd Bayless.

McRoberts has appeared in just 20 games this season, averaging 7.7 minutes he's putting up 2 points & 2.2 boards a game.

A couple notes on McRoberts. First, most know he was born here in Indianapolis & played high school ball for Carmel. But did you know that he also is the last Pacer to be born? If you listed all the Pacers by thier birth days & years, Josh would be the last on that list.

Now, here's a twist.

That's all for today, but there's also more to tell.

Welcome to the Leap Year Report.

Its not February 29th this year but it has been in Pacer History & theres a few items to report.

The Pacers are 2-3 in games played on February 29th.

In 1976 they lost in New York 130-118

In 1992 they lost in Charlotte 121-119

In 1996 they beat Golden State at home 94-85

In 2000 they beat Detroit 115-105 at home

Just last season in 2008 they won in Toronto 122-111

That's truly it for today as well as not tomorrow, I'll see ya ..... Saturday!

Jose Slaughter
03-01-2009, 09:39 AM
Today is March 1st, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 7-7 in games played on this date.

Donnie Walsh 1941
Walsh was born in New York City and played under both Frank McGuire and Dean Smith while attending North Carolina. The Philadelphia Warriors selected Walsh in the 11th round of the 1963 NBA draft but he was cut before the start of the season & never played in the NBA.

From there Walsh moved onto the coaching ranks. Assisting in several different programs including 12 seasons as an assistant to McGuire at South Carolina.

Walsh then moved onto the NBA as an assistant under Larry Brown with the Denver Nuggets. When Brown was fired 53 games into the 78-79 season, Walsh stepped up and went 19-10 the rest of the way. The following year the Nuggets went 30-52 then after starting the 80-81 season 11-20 Walsh was replaced by Doug Moe.

On June 12th of 1984 Walsh was hired as an assistant coach under George Irvine. After two seasons on the bench he was promoted to general manager on June 1st of 1986. Walsh remained in various front office positions until he re-signed on March 24th, 2008. Just over a week later he was named President of Basketball Operations for the New York Knicks.

Travis Diener 1982
The 6-1, 175 Diener was involved in a trade between Toronto & Orlando on January 2nd, 2004. As part of the trade, Orlando was given the option to swap 2005, 2nd round picks. They did, the Magic moved from 41 to 38 & took Marquette's Diener, the Raptors selected Roko Ujic at #41.

Following 2 seasons with Orlando he was released by the Magic on July 11th, 2007. He was signed by the Pacers as a free agent on July 23rd of 07 & has remained with Indiana since. As a Pacer, Diener has played in 106 games, starting 21 during the 07-08 season. In 17.9 minutes a game he's averaging 5.7 points, 1.7 rebounds, 3.3 assist & .6 turnover as a Pacer.

Transactions

On this date in 1975: The Pacers signed Roger Brown as a free agent after he was waived by the Utah Stars on January 30th, 1975. Welconme home Rajah!

On this date in 2008: Ronald "Flip" Murray was signed as a free agent after he was waived by the Detriot Pistons on February 22nd, 2008.

Records

On this date in 2006: The Pacers set their NBA record for highest FT%, 100% when they hit all 26 in a 99-93 win at Washington.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
03-02-2009, 02:28 AM
Today is March 2nd, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 15-9 in games played on this date. Winning 6 of their first 7 games bewteen 1968-1977. They also won 5 in a row between 1989-1999.

Transactions

On this date in 1972: The ABA conducted the first part of the 1972 draft. From what I can gather the first 3 rounds were held on March 2nd with the final 9, on April 12th.

These are the 3 players taken March 2nd.

1. Ed Ratleff -------- Long Beach State
2. Nate Stephens --- Long Beach State
3. Oscar Evans ------ Butler

Records

On this date in 1975: The Pacers set a franchise record with 28 steals in a 104-99 home victory against the Spirits of St. Louis.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
03-03-2009, 12:30 AM
Today is March 3rd, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 10-12 in games played on this date, including the losses in the last 3 games.

No Birthdays, Transactions or Records to report today.

Time for another Pacers by the Numbers

Today we see who has worn the #9 jersey in Pacer History.

Mel Bennett: Bennett arrived via a trade with Philadelphia on November 2, 1976. The Pacers traded their #1 pick in the 1980 draft to get him. That pick turned out to be #8, Andrew Toney. To make matters worse, Bennett was traded on September 1st of 1978 to Denver for "future considerations"

Derrick McKey: McKey was also aquired by trade. The Pacers moved Detlef Schrempf to Seattle for McKey & Gerald Paddio on November 1st, 1993. McKey was a Pacer until just 2 days prior to the start of the 01-02 season. Offically being waived on October 28th, 2001.

Maceo Baston: Our third player was also optained by a trade, at least the 2nd time anyway. Baston was signed as a free agent on July 28th, 2006 & was here just a few days short of one year. He left Indiana for Toronto on July 19th of 2007. Baston joined my "Boomarang Club" on July 9th, 2008 when the Raptors returned him to the Pacers along with TJ Ford, Rasho Nesterovic & Roy Hibbert for Jermaine O'Neal & Nathan Jawai.

So, just the 3 players and all were involved in trades to get here.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
03-04-2009, 01:43 AM
Today is March 4th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 6-13 in games played on this date.... OUCH! Between 1980 & 1992, they lost 8 straight.

On this date in 1997: Roger Brown dies of liver cancer at age 54.

Transactions

On this date in 1995: Mark Strickland is signed to his first of 2, 10 day contracts and John Williams is waived.

On this date in 2005: Dale Davis is signed as a free agent and Michael Curry is waived.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

duke dynamite
03-04-2009, 09:05 AM
On this date in 1997: Roger Brown dies of liver cancer at age 54.

:(:(:(

Jose Slaughter
03-05-2009, 11:29 AM
Today is March 5th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 13-11 in games played on this date.

Happy Birthday

Scott Skiles 1964
The 6-1, 190 Skiles was born in LaPorte Indiana & was a first round pick of the Milwaukee Bucks out of Michiagn State in the 1986 draft. After just a single season with Milwaukee, Skiles was traded to the Pacers on June 21 of 87 for a 1989 2nd round draft pick (#34 Gary Leonard).

In his two seasons as a Pacer, Skiles played in 131 games, averaging 5.9 points, 1.6 rebounds, 4.4 assist, 1.9 turnovers in 17.8 minutes a game.

On June 15th of 1989 the Orlando Magic selected Skiles in the expansion draft. On December 30th of 1990 in a 155-116 blowout of the Denver Nuggets, Skiles set the NBA record for assist in a game at 30. He would also win Most Improved Player for the 90-91 season. After 5 years in Orlando he was traded to Washington on July 29th 1994.

After the 94-95 season in Washington he signed on with Philadelphia on December 12th of 95. Just a few weeks later on January 5th of 96 Skiles retired as a player.

He has gone on to coach at Phoenix, Chiacgo & currently with Milkwaukee.

Reggie Williams 1964
Williams was the 4th overall pick in the 1987 draft by the Los Angeles Clippers. David Robinson was 1st, Armon Gilliam 2nd & Dennis Hopson 3rd. Others of note in that draft class were #4 Scottie Pippin, #5 Kenny Smith, #6 Kevin Johnson & #11 Reggie Miller.

Just 5 games into his 3rd season he was traded, along with the draft rights to Danny Ferry, to Cleveland for Ron Harper, a 1990 1st(#13-Loy Vaught), a 91 2nd (#38-Joe Wylie) and a 92 1st (#25-Elmore Spencer).

Williams was waived by the Cavs just a little more than 3 months later. The Spurs picked him up to finish the season in San Antonio. He also started the 90-91 season in San Antonio but was waived on Christmas Eve.

On January 5th of 91 Williams signed with Denver. After finishing the year with the Nuggets, Williams stayed with Denver thru the 94-95 season.

On June 13th of 96 Williams was traded along with Jalen Rose & a 1996 1st(#10-Erick Dampier) to Indiana for Mark Jackson, Ricky Pierce and a 1996 1st (#23-Efthimis Retzias). The 6-7, 195 Williams was only a Pacer for 2 games with totals of 5 points, 7 rebounds & 2 assist in 33 minutes. He was delt to New Jersey for Vincent Askew on November 4th of 96.

New Jersey would be William's last stop. He finished the 96-97 season, even began the 97-98 season as a Nets, but was waived on Decmber 17th of 97.

Sarunas Jasikevicius 1976
Jasikevicius is listed as 6-4, 197 & played college ball at Maryland. He was signed as a free agent on July 25th and during his season and a half with Indiana he played in 112 games, averaging 7.3 points, 1.8 rebounds, 3 assist 1.6 turnovers & 19.8 minutes a game.

Jasikevicius was traded to Golden State on January 17th, 2007 along with Stephen Jackson, Al Harrington & John Powell in exchange for Mike Dunleavy Jr., Troy Murphy, Ike Diogu & Keith McLeod.

He remained with the Warriora the rest of the 06-07 season before being waived on September 20, 2007.

He is currently playing for Panathinaikos in Greece as well as the Lithuanian national team.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
03-06-2009, 01:07 AM
Today is March 6th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 9-11 in games played on this date. Odd its almost a mirroe image. They started out with 4 straight wins then followed with a single loss and another win. The past 6 games have been just the opposite, the last 4 have been defeats with the one prior a win, then just before that, a loss.

Time for an update from My Old School

Heres the list of colleges that have supplied the Pacers with the most players

1. Indiana ------- 10
2. UCLA ---------- 7
3. Georgia Tech -- 6
3. Michigan ------ 6
5. Arizona State -- 5
5. Kentucky ------ 5
5. North Carolina -- 5
5. Notre Dame ---- 5
5. Purdue --------- 5
5. St. John's ------ 5
11. BYU ----------- 4
11. Dayton -------- 4

Next on our list are players

John Duran
Bill Martin
Reggie Williams
Roy Hibbert

Yep, you guess it... Georgetown

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
03-07-2009, 10:46 AM
Today is March 7th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 11-14 in games played on this date.

We have another one of those dates where nothing happened.

So, I'm going to dig deep into the endless bag of Pacer Trivia & pull out something from the very bottom.

I've already mentioned the heavy weights in Pacer history so lets look at the light weights.

These are the Pacers that have weighed 170 lbs or less.

At 170 lbs.

Johnny Davis
Byron Dinkins
Ricky Green
Willie Smith

At 165 lbs.

TJ Ford
Wayne Pack

At 152 lbs

Tyus Edney

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Peck
03-07-2009, 12:12 PM
Jose

I know this may be breaking with the format you are wanting to do and if you don't want to that's cool.

But do you know what the Pacers overall w/l record is for franchise history? Actually I'm sure you do know this, but would you care to share?

Also while I'm putting in request in the future when you have dead down time and are looking to fill the void if you could do a top 10 list for Pacers career stats (points, rebounds, blocks, assist, etc., etc.)

This is the fist thread I read every day btw.

count55
03-07-2009, 12:15 PM
Jose

I know this may be breaking with the format you are wanting to do and if you don't want to that's cool.

But do you know what the Pacers overall w/l record is for franchise history? Actually I'm sure you do know this, but would you care to share?

Also while I'm putting in request in the future when you have dead down time and are looking to fill the void if you could do a top 10 list for Pacers career stats (points, rebounds, blocks, assist, etc., etc.)

This is the fist thread I read every day btw.

1725-1675...12th best among all active franchises...the Lakers .617 is the best, while the Griz' .325 is the worst...there are 15 franchises at or above .500 (with the Knicks & the Pistons @ .500), and 15 below.

What's the open hand thread you read everyday?

Peck
03-07-2009, 01:22 PM
1725-1675...12th best among all active franchises...the Lakers .617 is the best, while the Griz' .325 is the worst...there are 15 franchises at or above .500 (with the Knicks & the Pistons @ .500), and 15 below.

What's the open hand thread you read everyday?

I use my fingers to count. It's the only counting I do.:dance::)

Jose Slaughter
03-07-2009, 02:09 PM
Thanks Count, I hadn't done the overall won - loss record yet but it was something I was going to get to at the end of the regular season.

Peck

I can do better than top 10.

I have an excel spread sheet that list every player in something like 30 different catagories.

I'll have these completed with the 08-09 numbers shortly after the season has ended. I also have Pacer & opponent stats from season 1.

Jose Slaughter
03-08-2009, 01:54 AM
Today is March 8th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 9-7 in games played on this date.

Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March --------- 80-84
Year to date - 655-632

Happy Birthday

Bobby Joe Edmonds 1941
Edmonds at 6-7, 225 from Tennessee A&I was a 6th round draft pick of Washington in the 1964 NBA draft. Never making an NBA roster, Edmonds was one of the original signees of the ABA Pacers in September of 1967.

During the first season of Pacer basketball Edmonds played in 72 of the 78 games we played. In 18.6 minutes a game he averaged 8.0 points, 5.2 boards, .4 assist & 1.7 turnovers. After setting out the 68-69 season Edmonds returned for just 3 games during the 69-70 campaign.

The only other info I could find was his date of death: November 12th, 1991, at age 50.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

count55
03-08-2009, 02:18 AM
Thanks Count, I hadn't done the overall won - loss record yet but it was something I was going to get to at the end of the regular season.


np...It's on the team index page of BBR.com



Happy Birthday

Bobby Joe Edmonds 1941
Edmonds at 6-7, 225 from Tennessee A&I was a 6th round draft pick of Washington in the 1964 NBA draft. Never making an NBA roster, Edmonds was one of the original signees of the ABA Pacers in September of 1967.

During the first season of Pacer basketball Edmonds played in 72 of the 78 games we played. In 18.6 minutes a game he averaged 8.0 points, 5.2 boards, .4 assist & 1.7 turnovers. After setting out the 68-69 season Edmonds returned for just 3 games during the 69-70 campaign.

The only other info I could find was his date of death: November 12th, 1991, at age 50.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Bobby Joe Edmonds' son, Bobby Joe, Jr., played 5 years in the NFL, primarily as a Kick Returner. He played for Seattle from 1986-1988, then for the Raiders in 1989. He was out of the league for a number of years, before returning in 1995 for one year with Tampa Bay.

Jose Slaughter
03-08-2009, 11:49 PM
Today is March 9th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 12-10 in games played on this date. Strange how we got to 12-10 too. We won 6 of 7 between 68 & 79, then lost 8 of the next 9 from 80 to 91. Since 94 we've won 5 of 6.

Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March --------- 92-94
Year to date - 667-642

On this date in 1968: The Pacers took part in the 2nd ABA Draft. Of the 14 players drafted, the 6 bolded names played for the Pacers.

1. Don Dee ---------- St. Mary's of the Plains
2. Mike Lewis -------- Duke
3. Don May ----------- Dayton
4. Bob Quick --------- Xavier
5. Phil Wagner ------ Georgia Tech
6. Dave Benedict ----- Central Washington
7. Rudy Bogad -------- St. John's
8. Jerry Newsom ------ Indiana State
9. Rich Niemann ------ St. Louis
10. Jack Thompson -- South Carolina
11. Greg Cisson ------- Rider
12. Bob Hooper ------ Dayton
13. Harry Joyner ----- Indiana
14. Tom Niemier ------ Evansville

3rd round pick Don May played 7 seasons in the NBA, winning a title with New York in 1970.

4th round pick Bob Quick played 6 seasons both in the NBA & ABA.

9th round pick Rich Niemann played 4 seasons in both the NBA & ABA.

On this date in 1970: Rick Mount signed with Indiana

On this date in 1984: Bruce Kuczenski's 2nd 10 day contract expired & he was not re-signed.

On this date in 2000: The Pacers NBA Longest Home Winning Streak ends at 25 games with a 127-119 overtime win against the Portland Trailblazers. Indiana would lose their next home game on March 12th to the Heat. The streak began on November 26th, 1999 with a 105-86 win over Vancouver.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
03-09-2009, 11:17 PM
Today is March 10th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 14-6 in games played on this date. We started off with 6 straight wins & even though our last game on this date was a loss in 07, we had won the four games prior to that. Bad news for the Jazz

Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March --------106-100
Year to date - 681-648

Only one record to report on today & it's not a good one.

One this date in 1996: The Pacers set a team record by scoring the fewest points in an overtime period with zero in a 113-103 double overtime loss at Portland.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
03-11-2009, 02:24 AM
Today is March 11th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 7-15 in games played on this date. We started off well enough, winning 5 of our first 8 between 1967 & 1980. Starting in 83 we dropped 11 in a row stretching all the way to 2003. We've only played 3 games since then, winning 2.

Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March --------113-115
Year to date - 688-663

Happy Birthday

Fred Jones 1979
Jones was the Pacers 14th pick of the 1st round of the 2002 NBA draft. Coming our of Oregon, the 6-4, 210 Jones played four full seasons with Indiana, appearing in 245 games he averaged 7.7 points, 2.2 rebounds, 2.2 assist, 1.3 turnovers & .8 steals in 23.4 minutes a game.

After the 05-06 season Jones signed with Toronto but was traded midway thru his first year. On February 22nd of 07 he was delt to Portland for Juan Dixon. He finished the 06-07 season in Portland but was traded on June 28th 2007 to New York in a package that included Zach Randolph, Dan Dickau and the rights to Demetris Nichols. The Trailblazers got back Steve Francis, Channing Frye and an 08 2nd rounder (#36-Omer Asik).

Jones played the entire 07-08 season in New York but was waived on October 27th 2008.

He was signed briefly by the Clippers, playing between December 28th & January 5th before being waived, then re-signed, just 3 days later. Looks like he will finish the year with L.A.

Jones was the 2004 NBA Slam Dunk Champion.

On this date in 1983: The Pacers longest NBA losing streak comes to an end after 12 games. Starting on February 16th with a 117-113 home loss to Chicago and ending with a 127-121 defeat at home against Seattle.

The Pacers have tied this record two other times. The first from March 14th to April 3rd in 1985 & again from January 26th to February 23rd of 1989.

This loss to Seattle also ended another sour run by the Pacers. It marked the last of 9 straight home defeats, dating back to February 4th's 102-93 loss to Boston.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Bball
03-11-2009, 02:41 AM
Jose is my hero with all this info and trips down memory lane.

-Bball

Jose Slaughter
03-11-2009, 02:48 AM
check's in the mail

Jose Slaughter
03-12-2009, 03:18 AM
Today is March 12th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 10-8 in games played on this date.

Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March --------123-123
Year to date - 698-671

Happy Birthday

Mike Lewis 1946
The 6-8, 225 Lewis was the Pacers 2nd round draft pick in the 1968 ABA draft. He was also selected by the Boston Celtics in the 7th round of the 68 NBA draft. Lewis attended Duke and only played for Indiana for the first 24 games of the 68-69 season. In his 19 minutes per game Lewis put up 8.2 points, 7.4 rebounds, 1.2 assist and 2 turnovers.

On December 19th of 68 he was traded to the Minnesota Pipers for Steve Chubin.

Lewis played 3 more full seasons with Minnesota/Pittsburgh averaging 13.5 points & 13.4 rebounds. The franchised folded & Lewis was the 3rd overall pick of the Carolina Cougars in the dispersal draft of June 13th, 1972.

Lewis had a much redused role in his 2 seasons as a member of the Cougars. Following the 73-74 season they became the Spirits of St. Louis & on September 16th of 74 they waived Lewis.

On this date in 1972: Darnell Hillman set the franchise record for blocks in a game with 10 in a 103-92 home win against Florida. Jermaine O'Neal tied the record in a 101-98 home victory over Toronto on January 22, 2003.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
03-12-2009, 11:40 PM
Today is March 13th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 11-12 in games played on this date.

Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March --------134-135
Year to date - 709-683

in my best David Stern voice

We have a trade to announce!

On this date in 1975: The Pacers traded Johnny Neumann to the Virginia Squires for cash & future considerations.

Since that seems to be all we have for today I think we'll do another addition of ....

My Old School

This is a list of colleges and the number of Pacers from those schools. Here's the current list.

1. Indiana ------- 10
2. UCLA ---------- 7
3. Georgia Tech -- 6
3. Michigan ------ 6
5. Arizona State -- 5
5. Kentucky ------ 5
5. North Carolina -- 5
5. Notre Dame ---- 5
5. Purdue --------- 5
5. St. John's ------ 5
11. BYU ----------- 4
11. Dayton -------- 4
11. Georgetown --- 4

Today we had the following players

Jim Dawson
Donnie Freeman
Eddie Johnson
Mark Price

.... and welcome Illinois to our list.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
03-14-2009, 01:13 AM
Today is March 14th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 8-12 in games played on this date.

Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March --------142-147
Year to date - 717-695

On this date in 1995: Mark Strickland was signed to his 2nd 10 day contract.

Lets add a couple more members to the Boomarang Club. These are players that played for the Pacers, for some reason left the team, then returned to play for Indiana again.

So far our list is...

Steve Chubin
George Peeples
Bob Netolicky
Roger Brown
Freddie Lewis
Jerome Anderson
Johnny Neumann
Billy Knight
George McGinnis

Tonight we welcome...

Ron Cater

Back in 1979 the season started in mid October so by the time the Pacers signed Carter as a free agent on November 15th they had already played 18 games. He remained with the team for 9 games before being waived on December 5th.

Carter returned to Indiana when he signed a single 10 day contract on February 15th of 1980. During his second stint with the Pacers he lasted just four games and was not re-signed when his contract expired on February 25th.

Don Buse

The Pacers aquired rights to Buse from the Virgina Squires on August 15th, 1972. Buse remained with Indiana five full years, thru the 76-77 season.

On September 6th of 77 Buse was traded to the Phoenix Suns for Ricky Sobers. He would play for the Suns for three full seasons.

22 games into the 80-81 season the Pacers traded 1981 & 1982 2nd round draft picks to get Buse back. He ended up playing the final 52 games that season as well as all 82 in 81-82.

Buse became a free agent & signed with Portland on January 7th of 1983 thus ending his 2nd and final run with the Pacers.

The 15th is a special day in Pacer History, find out why tomorrow

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

RamBo_Lamar
03-14-2009, 10:16 PM
Don Buse is easily one of the greatest Pacers of his era.

In his final year in the ABA, as well as his first in the NBA, Buse led both
leagues (#1) in both steals and assists:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/busedo01.html


Also notable are how many times he made All-Defensive 1st Team.

This guy was one hell of a player who was about all-out hustle, all the
time.

http://www.remembertheaba.com/TeamMaterial/IndianaMaterial/BuseDribbleNice.jpg

Jose Slaughter
03-15-2009, 08:54 AM
Today is March 15th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 11-9 in games played on this date.

Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March --------153-156
Year to date - 728-704

On this date in 1970: The Pacers completed the 2nd portion of the 4th ABA Draft that began on January 22nd. On the opening day of the draft the Pacers selected....

1. Dennis Awtrey ..... Santa Clara
2. Vince Fritz .......... Oregon State
3. Rick Mount .......... Purdue
4. Surry Oliver ......... Stephen F. Austin
5. Don Curnutt ......... Miami
6. Rick Erickson ........ Washington State
7. Billy Jones ............ Louisiana College
8. Jerry Kroll ............ Davidson
9. Bob Reily ............. Mt. St. Mary's

First round pick Dennis Awtrey played 12 seasons in the NBA for 6 different teams. Mount was the only player drafted to make a Pacers roster.

On the final day of the draft the Pacers selected...

10. Hayward Dotson --- Columbia
11. Mickey Foster ----- Arizona
12. Seaburn Hill ------- Arizona State
13. Ted Hillery -------- St. Joseph's (IN)
14. Jeff Sewell -------- Marquette

Of the final rounds, none of these played in either the ABA or NBA.

On this date in 1996: The Pacers retired the number 529 in honor of the number of victories under coach Bobby "Slick" Leonard.

On this date in 1983: Billy Knight set a Pacer record by hitting all 17 of his free throw attempts in a 132-128 home lose to the Philadelphia 76'ers. His record of 17 straight in a game was tied on December 17th, 2008 by Danny Granger in a 127-120 defeat of Golden State here at Conseco Fieldhouse.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
03-16-2009, 01:20 AM
Today is March 16th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 11-8 in games played on this date.

Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March --------164-164
Year to date - 739-712

On this date in 1977: The Pacers set the franchise NBA record for steals in a game with 21 in a 109-98 home win against the Denver Nuggets.

Its been awhile since we did a Pacers by the Numbers, so lets see who has worn uniform #10 in Pacer history.

Rick Mount: Mount was with the Pacers during the 70-71 & 71-72 seasons.

Don Buse: Boo was with Indiana for 5 seasons between 72-73 & 76-77. He was then traded to Phoenix for Ricky Sobers. While he was gone a couple other players "borrowed" his number.

Corky Calhoun: Calhoun was aquired June 30th, 1978 from Portland and was here for the entire 78-79 season. He was waived on November 1st of 1979 having played 7 games of the 79-80 season.

Joe Hassett: When Hassett was signed on October 20th, 1979 as a free agent Corky Calhoun was still with the team and wearing #10. He picked #11 until Calhoun was waived on November 1st then switched to his old #10 for the rest of the season. Hassett was with the Pacers for just the 79-80 season & was taken by Dallas in the expansion draft on May 28th, 1980.

Don Buse: We got Buse back on November 25th, 1980 in a trade with the Suns. That would have been 22 games into the season. He completed 80-81 & all of 81-82 with Indiana before signing as a free agent with Portland well into the 82-83 season.

Vern Fleming: Fleming was a first round pick of the Pacers in 1984 & played with the Pacers thru the 94-95 season.

Jeff Foster Foster was aquired in a draft night trade with Golden State in 1999. He's been a Pacer & the owner of jersey #10 since then.

Not a bad group if ya ask me!

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
03-17-2009, 04:07 AM
Today is March 17th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 16-11 in games played on this date.

Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March --------180-175
Year to date - 755-723

Happy Birthday

Clyde Mayes 1953
The 6-9, 225 Mayes was involved in two trades before being drafted. The first, on September 16th, 1974, was when the draft pick that would be used to draft him was included with Neal Walk in a trade from Phoenix to Utah for Dennis Awtrey, Nate Hawthorne, Curtis Perry and a 1976 1st rounder (#6-Adrian Dantley).

The second deal on October 8th of 74 is when the Jazz moved Steve Kuberski to the Bucks & included the 1975 2nd rounder that would be used on Mayes. The Jazz got back Russell Lee & a 1975 1st rounder (#7 Rich Kelly).

Finally we come to draft day 1975 & Mayes is the taken in the 2nd round with the 22nd overall pick by the Milwaukee Bucks.

After playing a season in Milwaukee, the Bucks waive him just prior to the start of the 76-77 season. The Pacers sign Mayes as a free agent just three games into the season on October 25th of 76.

Mayes only played 21 minutes in the two games as a Pacer with totals of 7 points, 7 boards, 3 assist & 2 blocks. He was waived on November 3rd, 1976.

Mayes played for Buffalo and Portland for parts of the 76-77 season & then was out of the league.

On this date in 1993: The Pacers set their NBA mark for most offensive rebounds in a game, with 34 in a 114-91 pounding of the Bucks here in Indy.

That game also saw another, very minor record set. The Pacers set the team record for fewest opponents 3rd quarter points, with 8.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
03-18-2009, 12:28 AM
Today is March 18th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 9-8 in games played on this date, but are on a 4 game winning streak.

Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March --------189-183
Year to date - 764-731

On this date in 1969: Pacer great Mel Daniels set two club records. The first filed goal attempts in a game with 38, the second, for field goals in a game with 25 in a 143-114 home win against the New York Nets.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
03-19-2009, 02:02 AM
Today is March 19th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 9-11 in games played on this date.

Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March --------198-194
Year to date - 773-742

Happy Birthday

Dudley Bradley 1957
On June 9th, 1978 the Atlanta Hawks signed Pacer free agent Danny Roundfield. In the old days if another team signed one of your free agents they compensated you for that player. The Pacers received cash and the Hawks 1979 1st round draft pick, #13, which we used to select Dudley Bradley.

The 6-6, 195 Bradley played at North Carolina before joining the Pacers. In his 2 seasons with Indiana he played in all 164 games averaging 23.7 minutes, 8.2 points, 2.5 rebounds2.9 assist, 2.4 steals & 1.8 turnovers.

Bradley holds 2 NBA records & is tied for a third.

His 211 steals in the 79-80 season is the record for rookies, as is the 2.57 steals per game. He is tied with 10 other players with 8 steals in a half. Bradley got his 8 against the Jazz on November 10th, 1980.

Bradley was traded to the Phoenix Suns on June 8th, 1981 for two 2nd round draft picks, an 81 (#37 Al Leslie) & an 82 (#43 Jose Slaughter).

He spent just one year in Phoenix before signing with Chicago. He played just one season for the Bulls before being waived. He actually signed with the Pistons but was waived by them before even playing a game. His next stop was with Washington for the 84-85 & 85-86 seasons. He was signed by Milwaukee for 86-87 & he managed to play a couple games for the Bucks in 87-88 as well, before being waived. He hooked up with the Nets for the remainder of the year. Finally, in 88-89 he signed with Atlanta & that's where he finished his NBA career.

As an NBA player Bradley was known for his steals. Today, ironically, he works in law enforcement for the Maryland Transportation Authority.

On this date in 1977: The Pacers set a franchise record for most opponents points in the 4th quarter with 47 in a 150-91 loss at Golden State.

That 59 point defeat was also our largest margin in a road loss

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
03-20-2009, 12:26 AM
Today is March 20th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 11-8 in games played on this date. We won 9 out of the first 11 games played between 1970 & 1992 on this date but we've lost the last 5 dating back to 2001.

Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March --------209-202
Year to date - 784-750

Today is the first of three very slow days in a row for Today in Pacer History.

We'll do another update of My Old School.

This is a list of colleges that have given us the most players. This is where we are currently.....

1. Indiana ------- 10
2. UCLA ---------- 7
3. Georgia Tech -- 6
3. Michigan ------ 6
5. Arizona State -- 5
5. Kentucky ------ 5
5. North Carolina -- 5
5. Notre Dame ---- 5
5. Purdue --------- 5
5. St. John's ------ 5
11. BYU ----------- 4
11. Dayton -------- 4
11. Georgetown --- 4
11. Illinois --------- 4

These four players attended our latest entry.

Greg Dreiling
Scot Pollard
Dave Robisch
Brandon Rush

Thats was too easy..... Kansas

We have just one more college with four players listed as Pacers & it might be a surprise to some.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
03-21-2009, 12:11 PM
Today is March 21st, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 14-5 in games played on this date. The Pacers won their first 6 games played on this date played between 1972 & 1979. Actually winning 10 of 11 between 72 & 93.

Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March --------223-207
Year to date - 798-755

On this date in 2008: The Pacers set a NBA franchise record of made 3 point field goals, 16 in a 124-113 home win against the Minnesota Timberwolves.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Hicks
03-21-2009, 01:16 PM
All those made 3's and the game doesn't even come to mind just a year later. Hmm...

duke dynamite
03-21-2009, 11:31 PM
It stinks that this thread gets buried so deep each day. I keep forgetting about it.

Jose Slaughter
03-22-2009, 01:19 AM
Today is March 22nd, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 16-11 in games played on this date.

Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March --------239-218
Year to date - 814-766

We're going to dig deep into the trivia bag today & give you the list of players that the Pacers have given up in the expansion drafts.

In 1980 Joe Hassett was taken by Dallas

In 1988 Clinton Wheeler was the Charlotte pick

In 1989 we lost Scott Skiles to Orlando

In 1995 Vancouver slected Byron Scott

In 2004 Primoz Brezec went to Charlotte

Sorry about the weak entry today but its the weekend & I've had company over. Mr Smirnoff stopped by for a few minutes.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

BillS
03-22-2009, 10:53 AM
It stinks that this thread gets buried so deep each day. I keep forgetting about it.

I think it should be stickied.

duke dynamite
03-22-2009, 11:53 AM
I think it should be stickied.
Good idea, but it looks like a mess up there...no one is using my thread, either...tear. :cry:

idioteque
03-22-2009, 11:56 AM
So what happens in the expansion draft, when your players are taken away from you in March. I assume you lose the player for the duration of the season before the expansion team starts? That just seems weird, why don't they do it in early summer?

Peck
03-22-2009, 12:20 PM
So what happens in the expansion draft, when your players are taken away from you in March. I assume you lose the player for the duration of the season before the expansion team starts? That just seems weird, why don't they do it in early summer?

Jose wasn't using today's date as the day that the drafts were held on. He was just trying to fill the void of inactivity for this date. The expansion drafts have been held over the summer after the season.

Jose Slaughter
03-23-2009, 02:40 AM
Today is March 23rd, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 11-8 in games played on this date. They're currently on a four game winning streak going back to 2001.

Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March --------250-226
Year to date - 825-774

On this date in 1979: The Pacer set their NBA high for most points in the 2nd half, with 87 in a 141-134 home win against the Houston Rockets.

Since we only have one more college that has supplied the Pacers with four players I think we'll go ahead and do another My Old School.

Our list in long enough now that I'm going to list the players first then add their college team to the bottom of the list. This way, maybe you can guess the college just by seeing their names.

Todays players are:

Alex English
Kevin Joyce
Tom Owens
Jack Thompson

1. Indiana --------- 10
2. UCLA ------------ 7
3. Georgia Tech ---- 6
3. Michigan -------- 6
5. Arizona State ---- 5
5. Kentucky -------- 5
5. North Carolina ---- 5
5. Notre Dame ------ 5
5. Purdue ----------- 5
5. St. John's -------- 5
11. BYU ------------- 4
11. Dayton ---------- 4
11. Georgetown ----- 4
11. Illinois ----------- 4
11. Kansas ---------- 4
11. South Carolina - 4

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
03-24-2009, 12:39 AM
Today is March 24th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 4-10 in games played on this date.

Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March --------254-236
Year to date - 829-784

Happy Birthday

T.J. Ford 1983
The 6-0, 165 lb. Ford was the 8th overall pick from Texas in the first round in the 2003 draft by the Milwaukee Bucks. Ford was with the Bucks for 3 seasons but missed all of his second year due to injury. On June 30th, 2006 Ford was traded to Toronto for Charlie Villenueva & remained a Raptor for two full seasons.

On July 9th, 2008 Ford was traded along with Rasho Nesterovic, Maceo Baston & Roy Hibbert to the Pacers for Jermiane O'Neal & Nathan Jawai.

As of today Ford has played 30.8 minutes in 63 games as a Pacer while averaging 15.1 points, 3.5 rebounds, 5.2 assist 2.5 turnovers & 1.1 steals per game.

TJ actually stands for Terrance Jerod

Ford won both the Naismith College Player of the Year & John Wooden Award in 2003.

On this date in 1995: Greg Kite was signed to a 10 day contract as a free agent.

On this date in 2008: Donnie Walsh annouced his retirement from the Pacers effective at the end of the season.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
03-25-2009, 01:48 AM
Today is March 25th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 13-10 in games played on this date.

Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March --------267-246
Year to date - 842-794

Happy Birthday

Dale Davis 1969
The 6-11, 230 lb. Davis was the 13th overall pick in the 1991 draft. During his 10 seasons as a Pacer, Davis played in 671 games, averaging 29.5 minutes, 9.3 points, 9 rebounds & 1.3 blocks. Making the All Star team in the 1999-2000 season.

On August 31st, 2000 Davis was traded to Portland for Jermaine O'Neal & Joe Kleine.

Davis spent four full seasons as a Trailblazer before being moved to Golden State with Dan Dickau on July 20th, 2004 for Nick Van Exel.

Half way thru the 04-05 season Davis was traded again. This time he and Speedy Claxton were shipped to New Orleans for Baron Davis. New Orleans waived Davis on March 1st, 2005 without him taking the court for the Hornets.

The Pacers signed Davis as a free agent on March 3rd and he finished the final 25 games of the 04-05 season as a Pacer.

On August 23rd, 2005 he was signed as a free agent with the Detroit Pistons where he played the final two seasons of his career.

Davis's name is all over the top 10 list in Pacer history.

1st in field goal % with .543

1st in offensive rebounds with 2,276

2nd in total rebounds with 6,006

3rd in defensive rebounds with 3,730

3rd in personal fouls with 1,982

4th in seasons played with 10

4th in games played with 671

4th in blocked shots with 904

5th in total minutes with 19,814

5th in rebound average with 8.95

9th in steals with 468

Something I just found out is his given name is Elliott Lydell Davis.

On this date in 1985: Greg Kelser was signed to his first of two, 10 day contracts.

On this date in 1968: The Pacers played in their 1st playoff game, a 146-127 loss on the road against the Pittsburgh Pipers.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Peck
03-25-2009, 03:16 AM
Today is March 25th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 13-10 in games played on this date.

Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March --------267-246
Year to date - 842-794

Happy Birthday

Dale Davis 1969
The 6-11, 230 lb. Davis was the 13th overall pick in the 1991 draft. During his 10 seasons as a Pacer, Davis played in 671 games, averaging 29.5 minutes, 9.3 points, 9 rebounds & 1.3 blocks. Making the All Star team in the 1999-2000 season.

On August 31st, 2000 Davis was traded to Portland for Jermaine O'Neal & Joe Kleine.

Davis spent four full seasons as a Trailblazer before being moved to Golden State with Dan Dickau on July 20th, 2004 for Nick Van Exel.

Half way thru the 04-05 season Davis was traded again. This time he and Speedy Claxton were shipped to New Orleans for Baron Davis. New Orleans waived Davis on March 1st, 2005 without him taking the court for the Hornets.

The Pacers signed Davis as a free agent on March 3rd and he finished the final 25 games of the 04-05 season as a Pacer.

On August 23rd, 2005 he was signed as a free agent with the Detroit Pistons where he played the final two seasons of his career.

Davis's name is all over the top 10 list in Pacer history.

1st in field goal % with .543

1st in offensive rebounds with 2,276

2nd in total rebounds with 6,006

3rd in defensive rebounds with 3,730

3rd in personal fouls with 1,982

4th in seasons played with 10

4th in games played with 671

4th in blocked shots with 904

5th in total minutes with 19,814

5th in rebound average with 8.95

9th in steals with 468

Something I just found out is his given name is Elliott Lydell Davis.

On this date in 1985: Greg Kelser was signed to his first of two, 10 day contracts.

On this date in 1968: The Pacers played in their 1st playoff game, a 146-127 loss on the road against the Pittsburgh Pipers.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!


Shouldn't today be a national holiday or something?:D

Hicks
03-25-2009, 06:41 AM
Well, it's my big sister's birthday today as well, so I vote yes.

Jose Slaughter
03-25-2009, 11:31 PM
Today is March 26th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 12-12 in games played on this date.

Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March -------- 279-258
Year to date -- 854-806

Happy Birthday

Jack Thompson 1946
The 6-1, 185 Thompson was a 6th round pick in the 1968 ABA draft out of South Carolina. He was also drafted by Washington in the 68 NBA draft but only played for Indiana and just for two games. In his 5 minutes on the court he was 1-3 from the field for his two points, had just 1 rebound, two assist & a couple turnovers.

Earlier this month Thompson was elected to the South Carolina Basketball Hall of Fame.

http://www.greenvilleonline.com/article/20090304/NEWS01/90304009

On this date in 1968: The Pacers lost their first home playoff game to the Pittsburgh Pipers 121-108.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
03-27-2009, 02:41 AM
Today is March 27th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 11-11 in games played on this date.

Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March -------- 290-269
Year to date -- 865-817

On this date in 2003: The Pacers signed free agent Tim Hardaway

On this date in 1977: Darnell Hillman set the Pacers NBA record for offensive rebounds with 12 in a 119-118 double overtime loss to the New Orleans Jazz. The record has been equaled three times. The first on March 28th, 1982 by Clemon Johnson, next on December 30th, 1993 by Dale Davis & finally by Jeff Foster on December 11th, 2004.

The Pacers set a team NBA record from that game against New Orleans on March 27th, 1977 of most field goal attempts with 120. This record was matched on December 28th, 1982 against Denver.

On this date in 1998: The Pacers had franchise low of four turnovers in a 133-96 home win against the Charlotte Hornets. This record was also matched on November 28th, 2004 against Seattle.

On this date in 1968: The Pacers lost their first playoff series, 3-0 with when they fell to Pittsburgh 133-114.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
03-28-2009, 01:20 PM
Today is March 28th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 14-7 in games played on this date.

Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March -------- 304-276
Year to date -- 879-824

Happy Birthday

Len Elmore 1952
Elmore was listed as 6-9 1/2, 220 from Maryland. He was the 7th pick in first round of the Pacers in a ABA undergraduate draft held on April 25th, 1973. The following month Washington of the NBA selected Elmore as the 13th pick in round one.

Elmore was a Pacer for five seasons, playing 308 total games. He averaged 7.6 points, 6.7 rebounds, 1 assist 1.1 steals & 1.4 blocks per game.

On November 27th, 1979 Elmore was traded to the Kansas City Kings for a 1980 draft pick. That pick turned out to be a 2nd rounder used on Dick Miller.

Following a single season he spent a year in Milwaukee, three in New Jersey & his final season in New York.

Elmore graduated from Harvard Law School in 1987 and began his law career as a prosecutor, serving as an Assistant District Attorney in New York.

In 2002 Elmore was named one of the 50 greatest players in ACC history.

He is currently a college basketball analyst for ESPN.

Byron Scott 1961
Scott, 6-4, 200 out of Arizona State was the 4th overall pick of the 1983 NBA draft by the then San Diego Clippers but traded to prior to the start of the 83-84 season to the Los Angeles Lakers. The deal was Swen Nater & Byron Scott for Norm Nixon, Eddie Jordon, a 1986 2nd rounder (#46-Jeff Hornacek) and a 1987 2nd (#46-Bruce Dalrymple).

Scott remained with the Lakers 10 seasons, thru the 92-93 season. He was named first team All Rookie Team of 83-84 & won Championships with the Lakers in 1985, 1987 & 1988.

The Pacers signed Scott as a free agent on December 6th, 1993. During his two season as a Pacer Scott averaged 10.2 points, 1.8 rebounds & 1.6 assist.

Scott was selected by Vancouver in the expansion draft on June 24th, 1995. He played just one season in Vancouver before returning to the Lakers for his last season in the league.

He spent his final season as a player in Greek League playing for Panathinaikos. Winning the finals MVP & the championship in 97-98.

Returning to the states he was an assistant with the Kings for a couple season before being named head coach of New Jersey. Scott was fired after three seasons with the Nets. He was passed over for the Pacers head coaching position in favor of Isiah Thomas & Scott took the offer from Hornets where he remains today.

On this date in 1997: Reggie Miller set the club record for 3's in a game with 8, in a 116-115 win at Charlotte. He matched that record on April 4th of 93 in a 110-100 home loss to Phoenix.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
03-29-2009, 01:21 PM
Today is March 29th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 6-9 in games played on this date. We're on a six game losing streak dating back to 1996 with a 93-91 loss at Minnesota.

Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March -------- 310-285
Year to date -- 885-833

On this date in 1985: Kenton Edelin was signed as a free agent.

On this date in 1998: The Pacers scored their fewest points in a game with 55 in a 74-55 home loss to the San Antonio Spurs.

Also in that game the Pacers also set a franchise low for 2nd half points with 21. This record was tied on December 23rd, 2006 in a 78-71 loss to Minnesota at home.

March 30th is a banner day in Pacer History!

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

idioteque
03-29-2009, 02:54 PM
Happy belated birthday Byron, wish you were our coach!

duke dynamite
03-30-2009, 12:01 AM
March 30th is a banner day in Pacer History!


It was okay to be a man and cry that day.

Jose Slaughter
03-30-2009, 01:11 AM
Today is March 30th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 6-12 in games played on this date. We lost 7 of our first 8 games played on March 30th as well as the last 3. The 29th & 30th have not been kind to the Pacers, the 31st is a far different story.

Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March -------- 316-297
Year to date -- 891-845

Happy Birthday

John Barnhill 1938
The 6-1, 183 Barnhill attended Tennessee State & was an 11th round selection of the St. Louis Hawks in the 1959 NBA draft. However didn't make the team until the 62-63 season.

After 3 seasons as a member of the Hawks on December 28th, 1965 he was traded to Detroit for Joe Caldwell. Barnhill finished out the remainder of the 66-66 season as a Piston.

On May 1st of 1966 Barnhill was selected by Chicago in an expansion draft but traded to the Baltimore Bullets for cash before the start of the 66-67 season.

After a year in Baltimore he was once again picked in an expansion draft. On May 1st of 67 the San Diego Rockets took Barnhill.

Following a single season with the Rockets Barhill was again taken in an expansion draft. This time the date was May 6th, 1968. The Phoenix Suns selected him but he never saw the court as a member of the Suns & his rights were delt back to Baltimore on January 31st, 1969 where he finished out the 68-69 season.

On July 1st, 1969 Barnhill was signed as a free agent by the Indiana Pacers. In his 3 seasons as a Pacer he averaged 8.4 points, 1.8 rebounds, 3 assist, 1.5 turnovers and 22.9 minutes per game.

On February 1st of 1971 the Pacers traded Barnhill, along with Art Becker to the Denver Rockets for Wayne Chapman & Don Sidle.

John Barnhill holds another record of note in Pacer history. When you list the players that have played here in chronological order by date of birth, he is listed first. Just one of two Pacers born in the 1930's.

On this date in 2006: The Indiana Pacers retired the #31 in honor of Reggie Miller. For the record we lost the game that night to Phoenix 114-104. As was mentioned by Duke, it was ok to be a man & cry that night.

On this date in 1983: The Pacers allowed the most 3rd quarter points by an opponent in their NBA history when the Boston Celtics scored 46 points on their way to a 142-116 defeat of the Pacers in Boston.

On this date in 1974: The Pacers dropped the 1st game at home against San Antonio in the 73-74 Western Conference Semi's, 113-109. Bringing our March playoff record to 0-4.

That's it for today. see ya tomorrow!

duke dynamite
03-30-2009, 01:21 AM
:cry: Still very sad thinking about it.

Jose Slaughter
03-31-2009, 02:42 AM
Today is March 31st, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 12-9 in games played on this date. The Pacers are currently on a seven game winning streak that started with a 118-100 home win against New Jersey in 1996.

Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March -------- 328-306
Year to date -- 903-854

On this date in 1991: The Pacers scored their NBA high for most points in an overtime with 23 with a 127-120 defeat of Golden State at home.

In the Ooops department

I had the date in my notes as 3-31-01 when in fact it was 3-13-01 so the date has passed but I do want to mention the record that was set.

On March 13th, 2001: Jalen Rose played a Pacer record 61 minutes in 127-118, 3 overtime loss at Houston.

In Playoff News

On this date in 1972: The Pacers defeated Denver 102-96 in game 1 of the Western Division Semi's here in Indy.

On this date in 1973: The Pacers again best Denver here in the first game of the Western Division Semi's. This time the score was 114-91.

On this date in 1981: The Pacers loss at Philadelphia 124-108 in the first round.

With these two wins as well as the loss the Pacer playoff record is now 2-5. Starting tomorrow this will be posted just below the regular season numbers.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
04-01-2009, 03:39 AM
Today is April 1st, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 4-10 in games played on this date. The Pacers won the last game they played on April 1st but they had lost six straight before that.

Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March -------- 328-306
April ------------ 4-10
Year to date -- 907-864

Playoff Update

On this date in 1972: The Pacers lost the 2nd game of the Western Semi's against Denver, 106-105.

On this date in 1973: The Pacers beat Denver in game 2 of the Western Semi's, 106-93.

On this date in 1974: The Pacers won the 2nd game of the Western Semi's. This time against San Antonio, 128-101.

On this date in 1981: The Pacers lost the 2nd game of a best of 3 against Philadelphia, 96-85. Ending the series 0-2.

Playoff Record: 4-7

Happy Birthday

Mark Jackson 1965
On July 1st, 1986 the Milwaukee Bucks traded Alton Lister, a 1987 1st (#18-Mark Jackson) and an 89 1st rounder (#20-Jeff Sanders) to Seattle for Jack Sikma, a 1987 2nd round pick (#32-Bob McCann) & a 1989 2nd (#45-Scott Haffner).

On November 11, 1986 the Sonics trade Gerald Henderson with the Sonics option to swap 1987 first round picks (#18-Mark Jackson) to New York for Sonics option to swap 1987 or 1989 first round picks (1987 #5-Scottie Pippen), 1990 second round pick (#44-Steve Henson)

So Jackson was traded from Milwaukee to Seattle then to New York before being selected by the Knicks at number 18 in the 1987 draft.

Jackson played 5 season for New York, winning rookie of the year honors in 87-88. On September 22, 1992 Jackson was delt to the Los Angeles Clippers in a 3 team deal involving Orlando. After two seasons in LA the Clippers, on Jume 30th of 94 traded Jackson to Indiana along with the rights to Greg Minor for Pooh Richardson, Malik Sealy & the rights to Eric Piatkowski.

The 6-3, 180 lb Jackson played for the Pacers for just two seasons before we traded him to Denver along with Ricky Pierce & a 1996 1st rounder (#23-Efthimis Retzias) for Jalen Rose, Reggie Williams & a 1996 1st (#10-Erick Dampier).

Jackson spent just 52 games with the Nuggets before returning to the Pacers in another trade. On February 20th, 1997 the Pacers re-aquired Jackson & former Pacer LaSalle Thompson from Denver for Vincent Askew, Eddie Johnson, a 1997 2nd (#41-Jason Lawson) & a 98 2nd (#54-Tremaine Fowlkes).

Jackson spent the next three seasons as a Pacer, bring his time here to 5 & a half seasons. He played a total of 405 games with Indiana, averaging 8.4 points, 3.8 rebounds, 8.1 assist, 1.1 steals, 2.4 turnovers in 29.8 minutes a game.

On August 11, 2000, Jackson signed with Toronto but was delt to the Knicks in mid season for Chris Childs & a 2002 1st (#20 Kareem Rush). Jackson remained in New York for the rest of 00-01 and all of 01-02.

On June 26th. 2002 New York traded Jackson, Marcus Camby, & Nene to Denver for Antonio McDyess, Frank Williams & a 2003 2nd round pick (#30-Maciej Lampe). On September 27th the Nuggets bought out Jackson & waived him.

Utah signed Jackson on October 1st of 2002 & he played the entire 02-03 season with the Jazz.

Jackson spent the final 42 games of his career with the Houston Rockets, signing with them on January 15th, 2004 & retiring at the end of the season.

Jackson is currently listed in several top 10's for the Pacers

3rd in total assist with 3,294

8th in 3 point FG's made with 273

10th in 3 point FG attempts with 754

10th in steals with 453

Jackson is 2nd all time in assist behind only John Stockton & currently works NBA games for ESPN & ABC.

Transactions

On this date in 1968: Reggie Harding was waived

On this date in 1972: Don Buse was traded to Virginia for cash.

On this date in 1974: John Baum was waived.

Records - Playoff Edition

On this date in 1973: Mel Daniels pulled down 20 defensive rebounds in a 106-93 home playoff victory against Denver.

On this date in 1974: Billy Keller made 9, 3 point field goals in a 128-101 home playoff win over San Antonio.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
04-02-2009, 12:05 AM
Today is April 2nd, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 10-12 in games played on this date. We started off almost as bad as you can, losing 9 of our first 11 between 1969 & 1989. We didn't play on April 2nd in 90, 91 or 92 but since 1993 we've gone 8-3.

Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March -------- 328-306
April ------------14-22
Year to date -- 917-876

Playoff Update

On this date in 1971: The Pacers win game 1 of the Western Semi's, at home, against the Memphis Pros, 114-98.

On this date in 1981: Indiana dropped game 2, and the best of 3 series with a 96-85 loss at home to Philadelphia.

With a win & a loss our playoff mark is now 5-8

Transactions

On this date in 1967: The Pacers took part in the first ABA Draft.

These are the selections:

1. Charles Beasley - Southern Methodist
Spent 4 seasons in the ABA with Dallas, Florida & Texas.

2. Jim Dawson - Illinois
He played just 1 season & that was with the Pacers.

3. Craig Dill - Michigan
Played just 1 season, with Pittsburgh.

4. Bob Netolicky - Drake
10 ABA seasons, 8 & a half with the Pacers, 1 in Dallas & a half a season in San Antonio.

5. Jim Walker - Providence
9 seasons, all in the NBA with Detroit, Houston & Kansas City.

6. Frank Gaidjuned - Villanova

7. Jerry Jones - Iowa

8. Ron Kozlicki - Northwestern
His only season was with the Pacers.

9. Hubie Marshall - LaSalle

10. Ed McKee - Rockhurst

11. Bill Russell - Indiana

12. Gene Washington - Michigan State

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!
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Hicks
04-02-2009, 10:35 AM
I never knew the Pacers drafted Bill Russell. This is incredible. :D

Jose Slaughter
04-02-2009, 11:59 PM
Today is April 3rd, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 4-15 in games played on this date. The Pacers lost 12 in a row between 1973 & 1991. Since then we're 4-3.

Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March -------- 328-306
April ------------18-37
Year to date -- 921-891

Playoff Update

On this date in 1971: The Pacers won the 2nd straight home game of the Western Semis's against the Memphis Pros, 106-104.

On this date in 1973: The Pacers lost game 2 on the road in the Western Semi's to Denver, 105-94.

On this date in 1974: The Pacers dropped game 3 of the Western Semi's at San Antonio, 115-96.

On this date in 1975: The Pacers again lost a game 3 in San Antonio in the Western Semi's, 137-122.

The 1 win & 3 defeats brings our playoff record to 6-11

Time for another version of My Old School.

This is a list of colleges that the most Pacers were drafted from.

I'll post the players & then add thier school to the list below. We have 11 colleges that have given the Pacers 3 players.

Tonight we add .....

Jamison Brewer
Marquis Daniels
Chuck Person

1. Indiana --------- 10
2. UCLA ------------ 7
3. Georgia Tech ---- 6
3. Michigan -------- 6
5. Arizona State ---- 5
5. Kentucky -------- 5
5. North Carolina ---- 5
5. Notre Dame ------ 5
5. Purdue ----------- 5
5. St. John's -------- 5
11. BYU ------------- 4
11. Dayton ---------- 4
11. Georgetown ----- 4
11. Illinois ----------- 4
11. Kansas ---------- 4
11. South Carolina --- 4
17. Auburn --------- 3

That's it for tonight, see ya tomorrow!
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Jose Slaughter
04-04-2009, 11:41 AM
Today is April 4th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 7-11 in games played on this date. We continue to struggle late in the season with losing records 6 of the past 7 days.

Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March -------- 328-306
April ------------25-48
Year to date -- 928-902

Playoff Update

On this date in 1972: The Pacers took the 2nd game of the Western Semi's at Denver in overtime 122-120.

On this date in 1974: The Pacers evened the Western Semi's series in San Antonio with a game 4 win, 91-89.

These 2 wins bring our overall playoff record to 8-11

Happy Birthday

Reggie Harding 1942
The 7-0, 250 lb Harding was the first player to go directly from high school to the NBA when the Pistons selected the Detroit Eastern High School player in the 4th round of the 1962 NBA draft.

Harding played with Detroit in 63-64, 64-65 & 66-67. I have no idea why he missed the 65-66 season.

On October 2nd, 1967 Detroit traded Harding to Chicago for a future draft pick. That pick would be used to take future Pacer Don Dee. Harding played just 14 games for the Bulls in the 67-68 season before being waived on November 28th of 67.

The Pacers signed Harding on December 1st of 67 & he played in 25 games averaging 13.4 points, 13.4 boards, 2.1 assist & 3 turnovers in 33.6 minutes a game. Steals & blocks were counted in 67-68. That seemed to be the end of Harding's playing days.

He was killed in Detroit on September 2nd of 72.

Transactions

On this date in 1985: Greg Kelser was signed to a 2nd, 10 day contract.

On this date in 1995: Greg Kite was signed to a 2nd, 10 day contract.

Records

On this date in 1978: Ricky Sobers was the first NBA Pacer to get a triple double. In a 129-121 home loss to New Jersey, Sobers had 22 points, 11 rebounds & 13 assist.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!
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Jose Slaughter
04-05-2009, 01:18 PM
Today is April 5th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 11-4 in games played on this date. After starting 1-3 and at one point having a 3-4 record, the Pacers have won 8 straight dating back to 1994.

Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March -------- 328-306
April ------------36-52
Year to date -- 939-906

Playoff Update

On this date in 1971: The Pacers won thier 3rd straight game over Memphis in the Western Semi's, 91-90 in Memphis.

On this date in 1973: The Pacers evened the Western Semi's against Denver with a game 4 road win, 97-95.

On this date in 1975: The Pacers won game one of the Western Semi's in San Antonio in overtime 122-119.

These 3 wins even the Pacer playoff record at 11-11

Happy Birthday

Craig Raymond 1945
Raymond was 6-11, 235 out of Brigham Young. He was drafted by the Pittsburgh Pipers of the ABA on April 2nd 1967. The following month on May 3rd the Philadelphia 76ers took Raymond 12th in round 1 of the NBA draft.

Raymond tried the NBA first, spending a single season in Phily before being traded to the Cincinnati Royals on October 3rd, 1969 for Fred Hetzel. He never took the court for the Royals instead he headed to the ABA.

Raymond spent the 69-70 with Pittsburgh then Los Angeles before moving to Memphis for Austin Robbins on September 1st, 1970. He completed the 70-71 season in Memphis before moving to Florida for 71-72.

When the Florida franchise folded, Virginia picked him in the 3rd round of the dispersal draft on June 13th, 1972.

On August 10th of 72, San Diego picked up Raymond in thier expansion draft. He ended up in Indiana on September 1st of 1972 & ended up playing just 6 games for Indiana. Playing a total of 33 minutes, Raymond scored 5 points, pulled down 10 boards with 1 assist, 2 blocks & 3 turnovers.

Stephen Jackson 1978
Jackson is 6-8, 218 from Oak Hill Academy High School. He was a 2nd round pick of the Suns in the 1997 NBA draft. He was waived by Phoenix prior the the start of the 97-98 season.

He was signed & waived by Vancouver before the 99-00 season.

Jackson finally made an NBA roster with New Jersey in 00-01. After one year with the Nets he was signed by San Antonio as a free agent on August 2nd, 2001 & played with the Spurs for two seasons.

On October 3ed, 2003 he signed with Atlanta & played for the Hawks until he was traded to the Pacers on July 15th, 2004 in a deal for Al Harrington.

Jackson was a Pacer for 2 & a half seasons, playing 169 games. Averaging 16.6 points, 3.9 boards, 2.7 assist, 1.2 steals, 2.4 turnovers in 34.9 minutes per game.

On January 17th, 2007 Jackson was traded along with Al Harrington, Sarunas Jasikevicius & Josh Powell to the Golden State Warriors for Ike Diogu, Mike Dunleavy Jr., Keith McLeod & Troy Murphy.

Jackson has been a member of the Warriors since the trade.

Transactions

On this date in 1994: Lester Connor was signed as a free agent.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!
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Jose Slaughter
04-06-2009, 02:02 AM
Today is April 6th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 12-4 in games played on this date. Just like yesterday, the Pacers have won eight in a row on this date too. They alternated wins & losses for the first eight games and are currently on an eight game winning streak dating back to 1996.

Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March -------- 328-306
April ------------48-56
Year to date -- 951-910

Playoff Update

On this date in 1972: The Pacers dropped game 4 to even up the Western Semi's 2 games each with a 112-96 loss at Denver.

On this date in 1974: The Pacers took a 3-2 lead with a 105-100 home win over San Antonio in the Western Semi's.

With a win & a loss the Pacer Playoff Record now stands at 12-12

Its been a very long time since we did a Pacers by the Numbers. Lets take a look at who has worn jersey #11 through out Pacer history.

Phillip Wagner was drafted in March of 68 & played in 12 of the first 16 games played in the 68-69 season before being waived on November 27th, 1968.

Tom Thacker picked up the number 11 when he was signed as a free agent & had the number for the rest of 68-69. Thacker was with the Pacers for the 69-70 season & a small part of 70-71 but he wore #44 in those seasons.

Billy Keller Picked up #11 starting with the 69-70 season & wore it for his seven seasons with the Pacers until his retirement following 75-76.

Joe Hassett was signed as a free agent just prior to the start of the 79-80 season, his only year with the Pacers. He was taken by Dallas in the expansion draft in May of 1980.

Raymond Townsend was signed & waived twice during the 81-82 season. His last day with the Pacers was January 4th of 82.

Marty Brynes was a free agent signee in August of 1982 & wore #11 for the 82-83 season. He was waived on September 7th, 1983.

Brook Steppe was aquired in a trade from Kansas City just 10 days after Brynes was waived. Steppe lasted a single season as a Pacer before being waived on October 15th, 1984.

Greg Kelser was signed to two 10 day contracts. The first on March 25th, 1985. That would have been enough for him to finish the last few weeks of the 84-85 season in Indiana.

Sedric Toney was another 10 day contract player. Signed on February 2nd, 1989, he was waived just 10 days later.

Detlef Schrempf was aquired via a trade just 9 days after Toney was cut loose. Det finished out the remainder of the 88-89 season as well as four more complete seasons wearing good ole #11. Schrempf was delt just before the start of the 93-94 season & #11 lay unused until 2001.

Jamaal Tinsley was aquired from Atlanta on draft night 2001 & has been with the Pacers, "wearing" #11 for the past eight seasons.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!
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cramerica
04-06-2009, 03:47 AM
Hey Jose, can you refresh my memory on what that number at the end means. Thanks.

Jose Slaughter
04-06-2009, 08:41 AM
When I log in to prepare the days update I note how many views the thread has had from one day to the next.

Just me gauging how many are checking out the thread.

Jose Slaughter
04-07-2009, 12:24 AM
Today is April 7th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 9-7 in games played on this date.

Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March -------- 328-306
April ------------57-63
Year to date -- 960-917

Playoff Update

On this date in 1971: The Pacers took game 4 & swept the Western Semi's with a 102-101 overtime win at Memphis.

On this date in 1973: The Pacers win game 5 & the Western Semi's series with a 121-107 home victory over Denver.

On this date in 1975: Indiana wins game 2 of the Western Semi's in San Antonio, 98-93.

These 3 wins bring the Pacers playoff record to 15-12.

Happy Birthday

Bo Lamar 1951
On April 24th, 1973 the Detroit Pistons selected Lamar with their 3rd round pick in the 73 NBA draft. The following day the San Diego Conquistadors took him in round 1 of the ABA, senior draft.

The 6-1, 180 lb Lamar decided to take the San Diego offer & played all of the 73-74 & 74-75 seasons in San Diego.

Six games into the 75-76 season, on November 11th, San Diego folded & the 3 time All American from Southwest Louisiana was taken by the Pacers in the dispersal draft.

Lamar played 35 games for the Pacers in the 75-76 season averaging 15.6 points, 2.8 boards, 3.9 assist, 1 steal in 25.9 minutes a game.

Lamar signed with the Los Angeles Lakers on October 21st, 1976 & played his one & only season in the NBA.

Anthony Frederick 1964
The 6-7, 205 lb. Frederick played at Pepperdine & was drafted by Denver in the 6th round of the 1986 NBA draft. He was signed by the Pacers as a free agent on August 1st, 1988.

During the 88-89 season, his only season with the Pacers, he played in 46 games averaging 3.3 points & 1.1 rebounds in 6.8 minutes a game.

Frederick signed with Sacramento on January 14th, 1991 & finsihed the 90-91 season with the Kings.

On October 1st of 91 he signed with the Charlotte Hornets, playing for his 3rd & final team in the NBA.

Sadly, on May 29th, 2003 Frederick passed away from an apparent heart attack.

Records

On this date in 1973: The Pacers set a franchise playoff assist record with 35 in a 121-107 home defeat of Denver.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
04-08-2009, 04:01 AM
Today is April 8th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 9-7 in games played on this date.

Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March -------- 328-306
April ------------ 66-70
Year to date -- 969-924

Playoff Update

On this date in 1969: The Pacers lost game 1 at home in the Eastern Semi's to Kentucky, 128-118.

On this date in 1972: The Pacers took a 3-2 series lead with a game 5 home win over Denver in the Western Semi's, 91-79.

On this date in 1976: The Pacers lost game 1 of a best of 3 first round matchup in Kentucky, 120-109.

After going 1-2 on this date the Pacers playoff record now stands 16-14.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
04-09-2009, 01:31 AM
Today is April 9th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 6-6 in games played on this date.

Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March -------- 328-306
April ------------ 72-76
Year to date -- 975-930

Playoff Update

On this date in 1969: The Pacers won game 3 of the Eastern Semi's at home, over Kentucky 120-115.

On this date in 1972: The Pacers dropped game 6 of the Western Semi's in Denver, 106-99.

With a win & a loss the Pacers playoff record moves to 17-15.

Happy Birthday

Kyle Macy 1957
After playing at Purdue his freahman year, Macy transfered to Kentucky. He was forced to set for a season then joined the Wilcats starting in 1977. While at Kentucky, Macy was named All American & All SEC three straight years. Macy's Wildcats won the 1978 NCAA Championship over Duke 94-88.

On June 22nd, 1979 Washington traded their 1979 first round draft pick & a 1980 3rd rounder to Phoenix for Steve Malovic. Macy was taken by the Suns just 9 days later on June 30th with the 22nd pick in round 1. John Campbell was the player taken in 1980 with the third round pick.

Macy returned to Kentucky to finish out his college eligibility before joining the Suns for the 80-81 season. After five seasons with Phoenix Macy signed with Chicago on October 4th, 1980. The Suns waived the right of first refusal in exchange for a couple of 2nd round picks. A 1986 2nd (#39-Rafael Addison) & a 1990 2nd (#50-Milos Babic).

He played just a single season for the Bulls before being traded to the Pacers on September 18th of 86 for two 2nd round draft picks. A 1988 2nd (#37-Greg Butler) & either a 1990 or 1992 2nd.

The 6-3, 190 lb Macy played his final NBA season with the Pacers averaging 4.9 points, 1.5 boards, 2.6 assist, .8 steals, .8 turnovers in 16.4 minutes a game.

Macy played two more seasons in Europe before returning to the States to coach. At first Morehead State, then Lexington Christian Academy before taking the GM duties with the CBA's East Kentucky Miners.

Records

On this date in 1972: The Pacers set a club playoff record with 14 blocked shots in their 106-99 loss in Denver.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
04-10-2009, 12:04 AM
Today is April 10th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 5-12 in games played on this date. The Pacer put together 5 game losing streaks twice on this date. They lost 1 game in the ABA in 1970 then didn't play again on April 10th for another 12 years, losing 4 games between 82-85. Their second run of 5 losses was from 1991 to 2000.

Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March -------- 328-306
April ------------ 77-88
Year to date -- 980-942

Playoff Update

On this date in 1969: The Pacers played their 3rd games in as many nights & with a 130-111 road loss, drop to 1-3 in the Eastern Semi's against Kentucky.

On this date in 1974: The Pacers dropped game 6 on the road to San Antonio in the Western Semi's, 102-86.

On this date in 1975: The Pacers take a 3-0 series lead with a 113-103 overtime win at home over San Antonio in the Western Semi's.

On this date in 1976: The Pacers even the series 1-1 with a 109-95 home victory over Kentucky in the first round of the playoffs.

With two wins & two defeats the Pacers playoff record is now 19-17.

Records

On this date in 1975: In the 113-103 game 3 overtime win against San Antonio, Don Buse set a Pacer playoff record by playing 53 minutes.

Also from that game, George McGinnis set the franchise mark with 22 free throw attempts in a playoff game.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
04-11-2009, 05:03 PM
Today is April 11th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 7-8 in games played on this date.

Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March -------- 328-306
April ------------ 84-96
Year to date -- 987-950

Playoff Update

The Pacers have never played a playoff game on April 11th so their record remains 19-17.

Happy Birthday 1976

Tremaine Fowlkes
Oddly enough Fowlkes was the Pacers 1998 2nd rounder that was traded to Denver on February 20th, 1997 along with Vincent Askew, Eddie Johnson & a 1997 2nd (#41 Jason Lawson) for Mark Jackson & LaSalle Thompson.

The 6-8, 220 lb Fowlkes played at Fresno State and was the 2nd round pick of the Nuggets of the 1998 NBA draft on June 24th. He didn't sign with Denver until January 22nd of 99 but was waived without playing a game on February 1st.

Fowlkes was out of the league until February 23rd of 2002 when he was signed to a 10 day contract by the Clippers. He remained with LA for the rest of the 01-02 season & was brought back for 02-03 as well.

On October 22nd, 2003 the Clippers waived him & the Pistons signed him for the 03-04 season on October 28th. Fowlkes wears a Championship ring due to being a member of the Pistons during the title run in 03-04.

On September 28th of 04 the Hornets signed Fowlkes as a free agent but he was waived just prior to the start of the season on October 28th.

He next surfaced in an NBA uniform with the Pacers, signing on November 25th, 2004. Fowlkes appeared in just 8 games for Indiana scoring 19 points with 8 boards & 2 steals in 7 minutes a game. He was waived on December 13th, 2004 and has not played in an NBA since.

Transactions

On this date in 1977: The Pacers completed a trade that began on February 1st of 1977. The trade agreed upon was a Pacer 1977 #1 & a player to be named later to the New York Nets in exchange for John Williamson.

On February 1st the Nets got the draft pick that turned out to be a #7 pick in the 77 draft that the Nets used to take Bernard King.

On April 11th of 77 the Pacers completed the transaction by sending the Nets the "player to be named later" to New York. That player turned out to be Darnell Hillman.

Yes, the Pacers traded Bernard King & Darnell Hillman for John Williamson!

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
04-12-2009, 03:09 AM
Today is April 12th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 9-6 in games played on this date. After winning their first April 12th game the Pacers went on to lose 5 in a row between 1985 & 1991. Beginning in 1996 & ending in 2006, Indiana ran off eight straight wins.

Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March -------- 328-306
April ----------- 93-102
Year to date -- 996-956

Playoff Update

On this date in 1971: In game one of the Western Finals the Pacers lost the home opener to Utah, 120-118.

On this date in 1973: Also game one of the Western Finals, also against Utah, also a loss. This one was on the road, 124-107.

On this date in 1974: In game seven of the Western Semi's against San Antonio the Pacers win at home 86-79.

On this date in 1975: With the Pacers up 3-0, the Spurs wins game four of the Western Semi's in San Antonio, 110-109.

On this date in 1976: The Pacers lose game 3 to Kentucky, 100-99. Losing the best of three opening round of the playoffs 2-1.

Not a great date in Pacer playoff history, going 1-4 the Pacer playoff record drops to 20-21

Happy Birthday

Larry Cannon 1947
As with a lot of players from the ABA era, Cannon was drafted by teams in both the ABA and NBA. On April 7th, 1969 the Chicago Bulls drafted Cannon out of LaSalle 5th in round one of the NBA draft. Eight days later on April 15th the Miami Floridians took him in the ABA draft.

Following a season with Miami, Cannon & Don Sidle were traded to Denver for Larry Jones & Greg Wittman. Cannon played just one season in Denver as well, before signing with the Memphis Pro's on October 1st, 1971.

After playing in 26 games for Memphis, the 6-5, 195 lbs. Cannon was traded to the Pacers for of all people .... Don Sidle. Cannon appeared in 28 games during the 71-72 season & 3 more games the following year but there is no mention of him being waived or traded. During his playing time as a Pacer, Cannon averaged 6.2 points, 1.2 rebounds, 2.4 assist, 1.5 turnovers & 16.3 minutes per game.

On February 13th, 1974 the Bulls traded Cannon to the 76ers for an umknown draft pick. He played 19 games for Phily during the final part of the 73-74 season & was waived in October of 74, ending his ABA & NBA career.

Brad Miller 1976
The 7-0, 261 lbs. Miller wasn't drafted when he came out of Purdue. He was signed by the Charlotte Hornets as a free agent on January 21st, 1999. That was the strike shortened season when games didn't start until early February.

After two seasons in Charlotte, Miller signed with the Chicago Bulls on September 7th, 2000. He played with Chicago until being delt to the Pacers along with Ron Mercer, Ron Artest & Kevin Ollie for Jalen Rose, Travis Best, Norm Richardson & a 2002 2nd round draft pick (#43 Lonny Baxter) on February 19th, 2002.

In his season & a half as a Pacer, Miller averaged 13.7 points on .514 field goal percentage, 8.1 boards, 2.4 assist, 1.6 turnover & 31.1 minutes a game.

Miller was traded to the Sacramento Kings as part of a three team deal on July 24th, 2003. The Pacers also shipped Ron Mercer to San Antonio & received Scot Pollard & Danny Ferry.

After 5 & a half seasons with the Kings, Miller & John Salmons were traded to the Bulls on February 18th of 09. The Kings got back Andres Nocioni, Drew Gooden, Cedric Simmons & Michael Ruffin in the deal.

Miller was named an All Star two years in a row. In 02-03 as a member of the Pacers & the following season, 03-04 while with the Kings.

Transactions

On this date in 1972: The Pacers took part in the second half of the 6th ABA draft that began on March 2nd.

These are the three players taken back on March 2nd.

These are the 3 players taken March 2nd.

1. Ed Ratleff -------- Long Beach State
2. Nate Stephens --- Long Beach State
3. Oscar Evans ------ Butler

These players were selected on April 12th.

4. George Adams - Gardner-Webb
5. Rich Garner - Manhattan
6. Cavin Anderson - Valley City
7. Wardell Tyson - Shaw
8. Jolly Spight - Santa Clara
9. Bill Burton - Eastern Kentucky
10. Wally Rice - Penn Military
11. Lee Sims - Morehead State
12. Nate Williams - Utah State

None of the drafted players ever made a Pacer roster but three did play pro ball.

#1 pick Ed Ratleff played five NBA seasons with Houston.

#4 pick George Adams was with San Diego of the ABA for three seasons.

#12 pick Nate Williams played eight NBA seasons with four different teams; Cincinnati, Omaha, New Orleans & Golden State.

Records

On this date in 1970: The Pacer set three franchise records in the same game.

Most FG attempts with 130
Most FG made with 73
Most Points in a game with 177

In a 177-135 home win over the Pittsburgh Pipers.

On this date in 2008: Just one year ago the Pacers set a club record for most 3 point FG attempts in a game with 39. Indiana was 13-39 from beyond the arc & lost the home game to Charlotte, 107-103.

On this date in 1975: George McGinnis set a Pacer playoff record by making 18 field goals in a 110-109 loss to the San Antonio Spurs. This record was matched twice by the same player, Billy Knight. The first was on April 22nd, 1975 in a 131-124 win at Denver. Then again just one month later in a 110-105 loss at Kentucky on May 22nd, 1975.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
04-13-2009, 12:05 AM
Today is April 13th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 8-8 in games played on this date.

Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March -------- 328-306
April ---------- 101-110
Year to date - 1004-964

Playoff Update

On this date in 1969: The Pacers fall to 1-3 with a 105-104 overtime loss at Kentucky in the Eastern Semi's.

On this date in 1974: The Pacers lose the opening game of the Western Finals in Utah, 105-96.

With these two defeats the Pacers playoff record now stands, 20-23.

Happy Birthday

Sedric Toney 1962
On October 1st, 1984 the Atlanta Hawks agreed not to exercise their right of first refusal on free agent Billy Paultz in exchange for a draft pick from the Utah Jazz. That pick was a 1985 3rd rounder used to take Sedric Toney out of Dayton.

Toney lasted just 3 games for the Hawks, they waived him on November 4th, 1985.

The Suns signed him on March 29th of 86, he finished out the season in Phoenix but was waived before the start of the 85-86 season.

He didn't get back into the league until October 7th, 1987 when he was signed by Denver. Once again he was waived before the start of the season, October 29th, 1987.

The Knicks signed him on March 13th, 1988 & he finished out the season in New York.

On June 23rd, 1988 the Charlotte Hornets chose Toney in their expansion draft but dropped him on October 17th of 88.

The 6-2, 178 lb. Toney signed a 10 day contract with the Pacers on February 2nd, 1989 & played a total of 9 minutes in 2 games as a Pacer. He went 1-5 from the field for his only two points, pulled down two boards & committed two turnovers. He was not re-signed when his 10 days were up.

September 29th, 1989 the Hawks sign Toney & he not only makes the roster but gets into their rotation. After appearing in 32 games, on February 10th, 1990, he's packaged with Antoine Carr & a 1991 2nd rounder (#42 Steve Hood) & delt to Sacramento for Kenny Smith & Mike Williams. He finishes out the season with the Kings but is waived on July 9th, 1990.

Toney was out of the league for 3 seasons before signing with Cleveland on November 9th, 1993. He played in 12 games for the Cavs that season, his last as a player in the NBA.

Toney currently works college games for ESPN.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!

Jose Slaughter
04-14-2009, 12:22 AM
Today is April 14th, on this date in Pacer history......

The Pacers are 10-4 in games played on this date.

Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March -------- 328-306
April ---------- 111-114
Year to date - 1014-968

Playoff Update

On this date in 1969: With their backs to the wall the Pacers beat the Colonels at home, 116-97 to take game 5 of the Eastern Semi's & head back to Kentucky down 3-2 in the series.

On this date in 1971: The Pacers win at home in game 2 of the Westen Finals against Utah, 120-107. The series is now 1-1 & heading to Utah for the next 2 games.

On this date in 1972: The Pacers win at home in game 7 of the Western Semi's, beating Denver 91-89. Scheduling note: The Pacers start the Western Finals the very next day in Utah.

On this date in 1973: In the 2nd game in the Western Finals the Pacers even the series with a 116-110 win in Utah.

On this date in 1975: The Pacers drop game 5 of the Western Semi's in San Antonio, 123-117. The Pacers are up 3-2 & heading back to Indy for game 6.

The Pacers had a good day, playoff wise, going 4-1 in playoff games played on April 14th. That brings their playoff record to 24-24

Transactions

On this date in 1995: The Pacers sign Greg Kite for the remainder of the season. I looked it up, it was the last five games. He's already signed two, 10 day contracts so it was either sign him for the last five or let him walk.

Records

On this date in 1971: The Pacers set a club record for the most offensive rebounds in a playoff game with 35 in 120-107 home win against Utah.

That's it for today, see ya tomorrow! - I hope

Staring Tuesday I'm having some work done on my hard drive, by an IT guy where the wife works. I'm not sure how long I'll be without it or how much of what I have saved will be available to me when I get it back.

I've copied the excel files & my list of web sites that I use for these post to my work computer. Between that & my wife's laptop I should be able to paste together something until we get mine de-bugged.

Thanks