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Unclebuck
06-22-2004, 05:06 PM
http://www.nba.com/pacers/news/news_draft_040622.html
Shaq, T-Mac Out of Reach,
but Bird Stays Aggressive


By Conrad Brunner | June 22, 2004
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The Pacers are out of the superstar business for the time being, but that doesn’t mean they have become inactive in the NBA offseason marketplace.
Team President Larry Bird said Tuesday there are players he’d like to move up to acquire in Thursday night’s NBA Draft. The Pacers have the last pick in the first round, No. 29 overall.



Bird

“If you have an opportunity to move up and get a player that you’re really after I think you’ve go to do that,” he said. “There’s a couple of guys out there this year I’d love to move up and have the opportunity to select ’em. … If I can’t get up there and get the guy I want, we’ll just take our 29th pick and select a guy and maybe do something later.”

Though Bird didn’t identify the players he’s after, he acknowledged Oregon guard Luke Jackson as a player he admires. A 6-7, 215-pound guard-forward with strong perimeter skills, Jackson has been favorably compared to Brent Barry and Mike Miller.

“I like Luke Jackson, yeah,” Bird said. “He’s a good player. If you like Chris Mullin, you like Luke Jackson.”

Though the Pacers had been mentioned as a possible destination for either Tracy McGrady or Shaquille O’Neal, that no longer appears to be a possibility. McGrady is close to being traded to Houston. The price for O’Neal, which reportedly begins with Jermaine O’Neal, is prohibitive.



McGrady

“No question, when you’ve got a player like Tracy McGrady out there you try to pursue it, see what it’s going to take to try to get involved,” Bird said. “We really didn’t get down to detail. We just asked them what they would like and really didn’t throw any names out there. The price was really too high for us.”

There were reports Tuesday that the Orlando-Houston deal might’ve run into a roadblock. Steve Francis, the key player the Rockets were sending to the Magic, said he did not want to play in Orlando. The entirety of the deal reportedly would send Francis, Kelvin Cato and Cuttino Mobley to Orlando in exchange for McGrady, Juwan Howard, Tyronn Lue and possibly Reece Gaines.

The New York Post reported the Pacers offered Al Harrington, Jonathan Bender and Jeff Foster to Orlando.

“My personal opinion is they might’ve gotten a better deal from us,” said Bird. “Taking nothing away from the guys that have been traded, I like our guys. I know our guys are talented and they’re hard workers. But when you go after Tracy McGrady you’ve got to give up something and the price was just too high.”



O’Neal

Asked if the Lakers’ O’Neal was being pursued, Bird smiled.

“With Shaq, Kathy Jordan (the franchise’s Vice President of Communications) and myself playing, we’d be all right,” he said. “Obviously, everybody would like to have Shaq on their team. There’s no question about it. We talk about it here and there but the price is very hefty.

“It is very difficult (to make a deal for a superstar). When you’re talking about the numbers of a Shaq or a Kevin Garnett, you’ve got to not only package one or two players but sometimes three and four. Their name looks good until you put it up on the board and see what you have left. It makes it very difficult. … I like Jermaine O’Neal. He’s young, he’s really just getting a taste of the playoffs. Everybody would like to have Tracy and Shaq but we’re very happy with Jermaine here and his surrounding cast. What we have to do is try to get the cast better so we can move further in the playoffs.”

In his first full offseason as the Pacers’ President of Basketball, Bird has taken an aggressive posture in the marketplace.

“We won 61 games last year. I’m pretty pleased about that,” he said. “But obviously we’ve got to get better. Detroit’s a better team than we are and we just have to get better. We were close but we have a long way to go. So we’ll be trying to improve our team till the start of the season and maybe during the season next year. We’ve got to get better somehow.”



Harrington

Harrington, who cherishes the opportunity to become a starter, reportedly has asked the Pacers for a trade.

“There’s a lot of interest in Al,” Bird said. “We’re not really shopping a whole lot of guys. We get calls on Ronnie. We get calls on just about everybody we have. They want us to give our good players away and not give us much back. So we’re not really shopping Al. I wish Al was happy here and I hope everybody else is happy. But sometimes a change of scenery will do both teams good.”

Should the Pacers stand pat and use the No. 29 pick on Thursday night, Bird said he’d prefer to take a player with college experience.

“I ain’t going to guarantee you, but it’s probably going to be a kid that played some college ball,” he said. “I’d rather have a two, three, four-year guy than a high school player.”

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ChicagoJ
06-22-2004, 05:08 PM
Interesting that he said "had been traded" in reference to the Orlando/ Houston rumors.

LAPacer
06-22-2004, 05:12 PM
Interesting that he said "had been traded" in reference to the Orlando/ Houston rumors.

I thought the same thing.

Slick Pinkham
06-22-2004, 05:14 PM
...
Team President Larry Bird said Tuesday there are players he’d like to move up to acquire in Thursday night’s NBA Draft...


“There’s a couple of guys out there this year I’d love to move up and have the opportunity to select ’em. … If I can’t get up there and get the guy I want, we’ll just take our 29th pick and select a guy and maybe do something later.”

Though Bird didn’t identify the players he’s after, he acknowledged Oregon guard Luke Jackson as a player he admires.



I wonder if it was OK with Donnie that Larry spoke for him.

;)

Everything later was "we" and it does appear to be very much a close partnership.

Shade
06-22-2004, 05:16 PM
Interesting that he said "had been traded" in reference to the Orlando/ Houston rumors.

That is very strange. :hmm:

bulletproof
06-22-2004, 05:22 PM
I think what Larry meant by his comments was that he meant to make some comments. Very strange indeed.

Will Galen
06-22-2004, 05:24 PM
...
Team President Larry Bird said Tuesday there are players he’d like to move up to acquire in Thursday night’s NBA Draft...


“There’s a couple of guys out there this year I’d love to move up and have the opportunity to select ’em. … If I can’t get up there and get the guy I want, we’ll just take our 29th pick and select a guy and maybe do something later.”

Though Bird didn’t identify the players he’s after, he acknowledged Oregon guard Luke Jackson as a player he admires.





I wonder if it was OK with Donnie that Larry spoke for him.

;)

Everything later was "we" and it does appear to be very much a close partnership.


I thought about doing that Tom. But I'm tired of arguring the same issue with what seems like one forum member after another. I've just accepted that they don't know what they are talking about and moved on. <Double, giggle, giggle, snort>

Kegboy
06-22-2004, 05:25 PM
Brent Barry, Mike Miller, Chris Mullin.

You know who Luke Jackson reminds me of, George Mikan. What you don't see it?

:blush: :rolleyes:

Will Galen
06-22-2004, 05:28 PM
Brent Barry, Mike Miller, Chris Mullin.

You know who Luke Jackson reminds me of, George Mikan. What you don't see it?

:blush: :rolleyes:

You mean all being blue babies at birth?

bulletproof
06-22-2004, 05:30 PM
...
Team President Larry Bird said Tuesday there are players he’d like to move up to acquire in Thursday night’s NBA Draft...


“There’s a couple of guys out there this year I’d love to move up and have the opportunity to select ’em. … If I can’t get up there and get the guy I want, we’ll just take our 29th pick and select a guy and maybe do something later.”

Though Bird didn’t identify the players he’s after, he acknowledged Oregon guard Luke Jackson as a player he admires.





I wonder if it was OK with Donnie that Larry spoke for him.

;)

Everything later was "we" and it does appear to be very much a close partnership.


I thought about doing that Tom. But I'm tired of arguring the same issue with what seems like one forum member after another. I've just accepted that they don't know what they are talking about and moved on. <Double, giggle, giggle, snort>

How can you take anyone seriously who puts that at the end of their posts?

Actually, I think Bird has been reading this forum and made those comments for my benefit, to show me who's really in charge.

Suaveness
06-22-2004, 05:37 PM
<Double, giggle, giggle, snort>


:rolleyes:

Will Galen
06-22-2004, 05:38 PM
...
Team President Larry Bird said Tuesday there are players he’d like to move up to acquire in Thursday night’s NBA Draft...


“There’s a couple of guys out there this year I’d love to move up and have the opportunity to select ’em. … If I can’t get up there and get the guy I want, we’ll just take our 29th pick and select a guy and maybe do something later.”

Though Bird didn’t identify the players he’s after, he acknowledged Oregon guard Luke Jackson as a player he admires.





I wonder if it was OK with Donnie that Larry spoke for him.

;)

Everything later was "we" and it does appear to be very much a close partnership.


I thought about doing that Tom. But I'm tired of arguring the same issue with what seems like one forum member after another. I've just accepted that they don't know what they are talking about and moved on. <Double, giggle, giggle, snort>

How can you take anyone seriously who puts that at the end of their posts?

I second that nomination! :wave:

Jose Slaughter
06-22-2004, 06:00 PM
Brent Barry, Mike Miller, Chris Mullin.

You know who Luke Jackson reminds me of, George Mikan. What you don't see it?

:blush: :rolleyes:

It's as plain as the nose on their faces. :o

Snickers
06-22-2004, 06:39 PM
Luke Jackson might be the next Craig Ehlo, or Jeff Hornacek.

Maybe a little bit of Glen Ri-- err, Brent Barry too.

:rolleyes:

Shade
06-22-2004, 09:14 PM
Here are some more comments from Bird that I haven't seen posted yet:

http://www.indystar.com/articles/2/156954-8442-102.html

Indiana Pacers president Larry Bird made two things abundantly clear today.

First, he definitely wants to trade up from the 29th pick in Thursday's NBA draft, possibly to select Oregon swingman Luke Jackson.

Second, he badly wanted to trade for Orlando star Tracy McGrady, who appears to be on his way to Houston in a blockbuster trade.

Bird is preparing for his first draft as head of Indiana's basketball operations, and there is no doubt he's looking to put his stamp on this team, both through the draft and with trades.

He was hoping to acquire McGrady, who would have addressed one of the Pacers' biggest needs -- a legitimate outside scoring threat.

"We hear that Tracy's probably going to Houston, but you never know, something might happen," Bird said today. "If he's out there, we're going to go after him."

Snickers
06-22-2004, 09:25 PM
"There's a lot of interest in Al. We're not really shopping Al. I wish Al was happy here and everybody else was happy but sometimes a change of scenery will do both teams some good."

You can tell he's been hanging around Donnie. :laugh:

Netweeny
06-22-2004, 10:18 PM
We were close but we have a long way to go.

:confused:

My brain hurts....

.

wintermute
06-23-2004, 07:38 AM
We were close but we have a long way to go.

:confused:

My brain hurts....

.

now that was what struck me as funny :laugh: