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Hicks
01-17-2004, 10:33 PM
Yes, we got lucky breaks tonight, but we also had our star in bad foul trouble, our other start playing quietly (just a bad night, not really his fault except for some bad shots), and the refs were awful for us yet again.

BUT WE WON ON THE ROAD IN NJ (AGAIN) after being down double-digits, the night AFTER beating the World Champs!

Hicks
01-17-2004, 10:37 PM
I still feel like we have stretches of lucking out by bad turnovers or missed shots by the other team, but still considering the things that weren't in our favor tonight (foul trouble, horrible calls), I'm starting to believe.

I'm always supportive, I always think kindly of this team, but for the first time since the Bird Era I'm really starting to slowly creep back to where I was during the Bird Era in the confidence/cockiness in us being one of the best. It's starting to feel real.

We've still got a long ways to go, but boy are we finally (finally) starting to get there. We'll still have lapses of immaturity, but we're continually improving now and it's a joy to behold (finally).

burnzone
01-17-2004, 10:37 PM
That was definitely a playoff style game tonight.
The Pacers have showed consistency this season in being able to grind out the close ones.
This team is way ahead of last years' team, in terms of team defense, trusting each other, and spacing on offense.
Pacers are looking good, and that's great to see, they just need to stay healthy, and continue this type of effort into June.


:cheers:

Hicks
01-17-2004, 10:39 PM
First things first, I want us to constantly win games like this against teams like this. We're not there yet, but we're making progress.

But man I can't wait until we're a team that can start strong and just bury teams. Maybe we won't get there, but I bet we can.

arkman40
01-17-2004, 10:40 PM
This team has made some serious strides in the mental toughness category. They don't seem to get rattled, they don't seem to care about being down, they don't seem to get full of themselves. They just continue to exert their will on the other any way they can.

Ragnar
01-17-2004, 10:41 PM
Jermaine was just magnificent after he got his 5th foul. He played so smart I hope he keeps that level of a head in the playoffs.

DisplacedKnick
01-17-2004, 10:42 PM
That was a very impressive win. I don't think NJ can beat you in the playoffs - not unless they make a trade for a shooter. The lock down defense in the 4th was outstanding.

Not sure what you're talking about with the refs though. I thought they sucked but it was pretty much equal opportunity. I think Artest could have dragged someone out of the stands and mugged them and they'd have let it go.

BTW - the WB4 Announcers suck. REALLY bad. When Clark's in they're OK but Buckner's a whiner. Can't you get decent announcers? I almost had to laugh once - Buckner was whining about how Jefferson should've been called for a foul going for a rebound vs Foster, then Al goes over Collins back for one and not a whisper. It would've been funny if it hadn't been so pathetic.

Sorry for that last paragraph but they really detracted from enjoying the game. Back to my main point - the Pacers are a much better team than NJ and I thought really showed that - even playing a game without showing much of a coherent offensive strategy Not that NJ makes it easy - they're still good but Indy's clearly better.

Anthem
01-17-2004, 10:44 PM
We're doing pretty well, yeah. Standings look nice:

Indiana 31-11
Jersey 21-17
Detroit 28-13
Nawlins 23-17
Milwaukee 22-18
Toronto 20-17
Boston 20-22
Philadelphia 18-22

Ragnar
01-17-2004, 10:44 PM
Arent your Knicks winning one right now?

Anyway I got the NJ feed on league pass and I thought the NJ announcers were very fair

Hicks
01-17-2004, 10:46 PM
I don't think NJ can beat you in the playoffs - not unless they make a trade for a shooter. The lock down defense in the 4th was outstanding.

Back to my main point - the Pacers are a much better team than NJ and I thought really showed that - even playing a game without showing much of a coherent offensive strategy Not that NJ makes it easy - they're still good but Indy's clearly better.

Who would have thought back in September/October we would see comments like THIS this season??

I love it! :dance:

DisplacedKnick
01-17-2004, 10:50 PM
Arent your Knicks winning one right now?

Anyway I got the NJ feed on league pass and I thought the NJ announcers were very fair

The Indy announce team since they got Al Alberts has been bad - I've thought they'd been better this year until tonight.

As for the Knicks, we're gonna win some games. We have a PG who can break down and collapse defenses as well as anyone and two top spot-up shooters who can take advantage of it. And in the last 15 games KVH has been playing as well as he ever has. Our interior defense should also be strong.

But we won't do anything in the playoffs. No inside post-up scoring and our perimeter defense will suck. Still better than we've been but not even in the Pacers league - not in playoff-style basketball.

Ragnar
01-17-2004, 10:52 PM
I am not worried about the Knicks. Had they hired Frattelo I would have been but not now.

jfisher
01-17-2004, 10:52 PM
test-just want to see if I still exist

Unclebuck
01-17-2004, 10:54 PM
Winning games is obviously the most important thing but knowing why you win is almost as important.

Why did the Pacers win tonight. Mental toughness, defense, defense, defense, and playing together. I hope the players realize why they won the game tonight. If they do realize it, they will only get better

Anthem
01-17-2004, 10:54 PM
test-just want to see if I still exist

Do you guys hear a faint buzzing? :devil:

Hicks
01-17-2004, 10:57 PM
Why did the Pacers win tonight. Mental toughness, defense, defense, defense, and playing together.

Which is kind of ironic to me since it was a lack of defense that let the Nets lead by 12. Glad they finally "turned it on" when it was absolutely necissary.

Unclebuck
01-17-2004, 11:01 PM
Why did the Pacers win tonight. Mental toughness, defense, defense, defense, and playing together.

Which is kind of ironic to me since it was a lack of defense that let the Nets lead by 12. Glad they finally "turned it on" when it was absolutely necissary.


Exactly right the defense in the 1st half was really bad.


Another really good sign the pacers are becoming a very good second half team

Down 10 tonight

Down 7 last night

They were down to both the Mavs and Spurs last weekend

MSA2CF
01-17-2004, 11:03 PM
That's what I was thinking in the first half...
I was saying: "This is how this team comes out of the gate. We aren't very good at the opening of ballgames. Just wait till the second half New Jersey. We'll show you. We're a second half team."

Tim
01-17-2004, 11:47 PM
I really expected Jason Kidd to step up in the 4th quarter and kill us.

He seems to love to play against Tinsley and claims to have him in his pocket. It didn't happen. I am going to watch the tape again tommorrow and focus on Kidd in the 4th.

This was a big game for NJ. More for them than the Pacers. NJ needed this win to keep a mental edge over us, that edge was destroyed tonight.
Al's post game comments confirms this, "We are for real. The road to the finals goes through Indiana."

Pacers think they own the East, Detroit will have something to say about that. This will be a good game. I hope both teams are healthy and the refs are fair.

MSA2CF
01-17-2004, 11:49 PM
Al's post game comments confirms this, "We are for real. The road to the finals goes through Indiana."

I love that quote, hence my sig. line hehe :jump: