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Wu-Gambino
10-22-2008, 03:09 PM
That time of year again, let's get your predictions for the upcoming season.

Of course, these have no bearing on your status as an NBA fan/expert. Without further a due:

Eastern Conference

1. :celtics:*
2 :thepiston*
3. :cavs:
4. :magic:*
5. :raptors:
6. :sixers:
7. :thepacers
8. :wizards:
______________________
9. :hawks:
10. :heat:
11. :bulls:
12. :bobcats:
13. :bucks:
14. :nets:
15. :knicks:

Western Conference
1. :lakers:*
2. :rockets:*
3. :jazz:*
4. :hornets:
5. :spurs:
6. :suns:
7. :mavericks
8. :blazers:
______________________
9. :nuggets:
10. :warriors:
11. :clippers:
12. :grizzlies
13. :kings:
14. :timberwol
15. :sonics:


Playoffs


Eastern Conference
First Round
1. :celtics: over 8. :wizards:
4. :magic: over 5. :raptors:
3. :cavs: over 6. :sixers:
2. :thepiston over 7. :thepacers

Second Round
1. :celtics: over 4. :magic:
3. :cavs: over 2. :thepiston

Finals
3. :cavs: over 1. :celtics:

Western Conference

First Round
1. :lakers: over 8. :blazers:
4. :hornets: over 5. :spurs:
3. :jazz: over 6. :suns:
2. :rockets: over 7. :mavericks

Second Round
4. :hornets: over 1. :lakers:
2. :rockets: over 3. :jazz:

Finals
4. :hornets: over 2. :rockets:


NBA FINALS
:hornets: over :cavs: in Six

NBA champs: :hornets:


Okay, let's see yours.

Jonathan
10-22-2008, 03:42 PM
Why does everybody have the Cavs in third place? I think they stink. They are a Lebron James injury away from challenging the Knicks for worst team. You cannot have that much weight on a single player and expect him to produce every year. He has played year-round basketball.

Plax80
10-22-2008, 03:44 PM
EC:

1. Boston
2. Cleveland
3. Toronto
4. Orlando
5. Detriot
6. Atlanta
7. Philadelphia
8. Miami
9. Chicago
10. Charlotte
11. Washington
12. Milwaukee
13. Indiana
14. Knicks
15. Jersey

Cleveland over Boston in EC
lakers over Spurs in WC
Cavs over Lakers

Pacers 26-56

JOB still gets much consideration for coach of the year for getting 26 wins out of this roster

Speed
10-22-2008, 03:44 PM
Well we came to the same end and I thought I was being bold picking the Hornets, but I guess not.

I hate the Wizards this year and I picked the Bobcats to ALMOST make the playoffs under Larry Brown.

I see the kids in Portland getting to the second round as will Phillie.

I think the Pacers will win the games they should and not beat any of the really good teams, kind of like last year, but get a 7th seed by being 42-40. Problem is who knows how long Dunleavy is out, but Im happy B Rush will get some extra minutes under his belt.

I think the Raptors are not Deep enough and JO is made of glass. Calderon was as good as he was going to be last year, so I'm not high on them and yes I blame JO.

I have the 76ers in a first round upset over Detroit. I think Joe D missed his chance to remake the team and they'll not be able to match Phillies young athleticism.

I like the Heat with a healthy Wade who should take a run at MVP, but his team won't be good enough and Jamaal Tinsley won't pass him the ball enough (pretending here).

Otherwise, I think it would be a great final to see Chris Paul and Lebron on the biggest stage. We'll see.


Eastern Conference

1. :celtics:
2 *:cavaliers
3. :thepiston
4. :magic:
5. :heat:
6. :sixers:
7. :thepacers
8. :hawks:
______________________
9. :bobcats:
10. :bulls:
11. :raptors:
12. :wizards:
13. :bucks:
14. :knicks:
15. :nets:

Western Conference
1. :hornets:
2. :jazz:
3. :lakers:
4.:spurs:
5. :rockets:
6. :suns:
7. :blazers:
8. :nuggets:
______________________
9. :mavericks
10. :grizzlies
11. :clippers:
12. :warriors:
13. :kings:
14. :timberwol
15. :sonics:


Playoffs


Eastern Conference
First Round
1. :celtics: over 8. :hawks:
4. :magic: over 5. :heat:
6. :sixers: over 3. :thepiston
2. :cavaliers over 7. :thepacers

Second Round
1. :celtics: over 4. :magic:
2. :cavaliers over 6. :sixers:

Finals
2. :cavaliers over 1. :celtics:

Western Conference

First Round
1. :hornets: over 8. :nuggets:
4. :spurs: over 5. :rockets:
3. :lakers: over 6. :suns:
2. :jazz: over 7. :blazers:

Second Round
1. :hornets: over 4. :spurs:
2. :jazz: over 3. :lakers:

Finals
1. :hornets: over 2. :jazz:


NBA FINALS
:hornets: over :cavaliers in Seven

NBA champs: :hornets:

Speed
10-22-2008, 03:45 PM
Why does everybody have the Cavs in third place? I think they stink. They are a Lebron James injury away from challenging the Knicks for worst team. You cannot have that much weight on a single player and expect him to produce every year. He has played year-round basketball.

If he was injured I would pick them last, you are right. And yes, I think he is that good.

duke dynamite
10-22-2008, 03:54 PM
EC:

1. Boston
2. Cleveland
3. Toronto
4. Orlando
5. Detriot
6. Atlanta
7. Philadelphia
8. Miami
9. Chicago
10. Charlotte
11. Washington
12. Milwaukee
13. Indiana
14. Knicks
15. Jersey

Cleveland over Boston in EC
lakers over Spurs in WC
Cavs over Lakers

Pacers 26-56

JOB still gets much consideration for coach of the year for getting 26 wins out of this roster

What!? No way we get less than 30 wins this season. This team has enough talent (maybe not proven talent) to make it within the top 10 teams in the east.

Could you explain to me how you came to the conclusion that this team is only capable of 26 wins?

I could see the Pacers get less than 30 wins, but not with this group we have now.

ChicagoJ
10-22-2008, 04:03 PM
East:

1-8
I don't care about the order, but the top seven teams are Detroit, Boston, Cleveland, Orlando, Miami, Philly and Washington. The #8 seed will be the Bobcats.

#9 Atlanta - not really worse, but Miami gets healthy and gets their act together and bumps them.
#10 Toronto - JO continues to battle injuries. Either that or this is a top-four team.
#11 Chicago - too much talent and they eventually figure it out or trade marketable assets for a better overall team.
#12 New York - Donnie and Mike are leading them back to Donnie's eternal goal of playing 0.500 basketball.
#13 Indiana - by midseason, the team will be in full rebuilding/ youth mode, which also brings back the forgotten "too smart to waste thier time/ money supporting the current team" fans.
#14 Milwaukee - even with Skiles, they can't overcome their talent deficit.
#15 New Jersey. Ick.

West:
I don't care. But I think San Antonio is due for a breakout season.

duke dynamite
10-22-2008, 04:04 PM
Well we came to the same end and I thought I was being bold picking the Hornets, but I guess not.

I hate the Wizards this year and I picked the Bobcats to ALMOST make the playoffs under Larry Brown.

I see the kids in Portland getting to the second round as will Phillie.

I think the Pacers will win the games they should and not beat any of the really good teams, kind of like last year, but get a 7th seed by being 42-40. Problem is who knows how long Dunleavy is out, but Im happy B Rush will get some extra minutes under his belt.

I think the Raptors are not Deep enough and JO is made of glass. Calderon was as good as he was going to be last year, so I'm not high on them and yes I blame JO.

I have the 76ers in a first round upset over Detroit. I think Joe D missed his chance to remake the team and they'll not be able to match Phillies young athleticism.

I like the Heat with a healthy Wade who should take a run at MVP, but his team won't be good enough and Jamaal Tinsley won't pass him the ball enough (pretending here).

Otherwise, I think it would be a great final to see Chris Paul and Lebron on the biggest stage. We'll see.


Eastern Conference

1. :celtics:
2 *:cavaliers
3. :thepiston
4. :magic:
5. :heat:
6. :sixers:
7. :thepacers
8. :hawks:
______________________
9. :bobcats:
10. :bulls:
11. :raptors:
12. :wizards:
13. :bucks:
14. :knicks:
15. :nets:

Western Conference
1. :hornets:
2. :jazz:
3. :lakers:
4.:spurs:
5. :rockets:
6. :suns:
7. :blazers:
8. :nuggets:
______________________
9. :mavericks
10. :grizzlies
11. :clippers:
12. :warriors:
13. :kings:
14. :timberwol
15. :sonics:


Playoffs


Eastern Conference
First Round
1. :hornets: over 8. :hawks:
4. :magic: over 5. :heat:
6. :sixers: over 3. :thepiston
2. :cavaliers over 7. :thepacers

Second Round
1. :celtics: over 4. :magic:
2. :cavaliers over 6. :sixers:

Finals
2. :cavaliers over 1. :celtics:

Western Conference

First Round
1. :hornets: over 8. :nuggets:
4. :spurs: over 5. :rockets:
3. :lakers: over 6. :suns:
2. :jazz: over 7. :blazers:

Second Round
1. :hornets: over 4. :spurs:
2. :jazz: over 3. :lakers:

Finals
1. :hornets: over 2. :jazz:


NBA FINALS
:hornets: over :cavaliers in Seven

NBA champs: :hornets:

First round first seed Eastern Conference Playoffs, there is a Hornets logo there.

Speed
10-22-2008, 04:08 PM
First round first seed Eastern Conference Playoffs, there is a Hornets logo there.

Fixed, thanks Duke. I really think the Hornets are good, evidently! :D

spreedom
10-22-2008, 04:13 PM
First round first seed Eastern Conference Playoffs, there is a Hornets logo there.


Not to mention a Sonics logo in the West...

count55
10-22-2008, 04:14 PM
If he was injured I would pick them last, you are right. And yes, I think he is that good.

Agreed...he is that good.

xtacy
10-22-2008, 04:22 PM
Eastern

1.Boston
2.Detroit
3.Cleveland
4.Orlando
5.Philadelphia
6.Toronto
7.Indiana
8.Atlanta
9.Washington
10.Milwaukee
11.Chicago
12.Miami
13.Charlotte
14.New Jersey
15.New York

Western

1.Lakers
2.New Orleans
3.Utah
4.San Antonio
5.Houston
6.Phoenix
7.Portland
8.Dallas
9.Denver
10.Golden State
11.Memphis
12.Clippers
13.Sacramento
14.Minnesota
15.OKC

Boston and Hornets to the finals Boston wins.

idioteque
10-22-2008, 04:29 PM
East:

1-8
I don't care about the order, but the top seven teams are Detroit, Boston, Cleveland, Orlando, Miami, Philly and Washington. The #8 seed will be the Bobcats.

#9 Atlanta - not really worse, but Miami gets healthy and gets their act together and bumps them.
#10 Toronto - JO continues to battle injuries. Either that or this is a top-four team.
#11 Chicago - too much talent and they eventually figure it out or trade marketable assets for a better overall team.
#12 New York - Donnie and Mike are leading them back to Donnie's eternal goal of playing 0.500 basketball.
#13 Indiana - by midseason, the team will be in full rebuilding/ youth mode, which also brings back the forgotten "too smart to waste thier time/ money supporting the current team" fans.
#14 Milwaukee - even with Skiles, they can't overcome their talent deficit.
#15 New Jersey. Ick.

West:
I don't care. But I think San Antonio is due for a breakout season.

The Bobcats...in the playoffs?!?

:eek:

spreedom
10-22-2008, 04:40 PM
East:
1.) Orlando
2.) Boston
3.) Detroit
4.) Philly
5.) Cleveland
6.) Toronto
7.) Indiana
8.) Washington
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9.) Atlanta
10.) Chicago
11.) Milwaukee
12.) New York
13.) Miami
14.) Charlotte
15.) New Jersey

West
1.) Los Angeles Lakers
2.) New Orleans
3.) Utah
4.) San Antonio
5.) Houston
6.) Dallas
7.) Phoenix
8.) Portland
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9.) Denver
10.) Golden State
11.) Los Angeles Clippers
12.) Sacramento
13.) Minnesota
14.) Memphis
15.) Oklahoma City


Playoffs
Orlando over Washington
Boston over Indiana
Detroit over Toronto
Cleveland over Philly
--
Orlando over Cleveland
Boston over Detroit
---
Boston over Orlando
----------
Los Angeles over Portland
New Orleans over Phoenix
Dallas over Utah
San Antonio over Houston
--
Los Angeles over Dallas
San Antonio over New Orleans
---
Los Angeles over San Antonio
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Los Angeles Lakers over Boston Celtics 4-3

idioteque
10-22-2008, 04:45 PM
I think I did this in another thread, I'm not doing the West because really I don't hardly follow the West at all.

DC's Eastern Conference Preview


http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/a/a9/Image.econ_pms3.jpg

The Beasts of the East

1.) Boston Celtics

2.) Cleveland Cavaliers

3.) Detroit Pistons

Best of the Rest

4.) Philadelphia 76ers

5.) Orlando Magic

6.) Indiana Pacers

7.) Toronto Raptors

8.) Washington Wizards

May have a Future in the playoffs, but not this year

9.) Atlanta Hawks

10.) Miami Heat

11.) Chicago Bulls

Unless there are roster changes, there will be suffering

12.) Milwaukee Bucks

13.) Charlotte Bobcats

14.) New York Knicks

15.) New Jersey Nets

Playoffs

1.) BOSTON over 8.) Washington 4-1
4.) PHILADELPHIA over 5.) Orlando 4-2

2.) CLEVELAND over 7.) Toronto 4-1
3.) DETROIT over 6.) Indiana 4-2

1.) BOSTON over 4.) Philadelphia 4-2
2.) CLEVELAND over 3.) Detroit 4-1

1.) BOSTON over 2.) Cleveland 4-3

I don't see any huge Playoff upsets this year.

ChicagoJ
10-22-2008, 04:47 PM
The Bobcats...in the playoffs?!?

:eek:

With Larry Brown? Yes. This is what he is born to do.

As much as I despise him from "the season we do not discuss", I'd welcome him back for a two-year contract begining in the 2010-11 season.

spreedom
10-22-2008, 05:11 PM
With Larry Brown? Yes. This is what he is born to do.

As much as I despise him from "the season we do not discuss", I'd welcome him back for a two-year contract begining in the 2010-11 season.


Larry Brown has shown (at least in his past couple of stops) that he can't win if he doesn't have a roster built for the playoffs. He *****ed nonstop about his players in New York (after repeatedly insisting throughout the season that it was his "dream job") and he will do the same in Charlotte, especially after his best player, Gerald Wallace, goes down to injury halfway through the season. He'll insist on numerous unrealistic trades (that he won't get) until the end of the year, and the Cats are going to win 25 games or fewer.

I actually like most of the players on the team, but I'll be happy to watch "Next Town" Brown fall flat on his face.

Dece
10-22-2008, 05:23 PM
Man, I can't believe how hard people are sleeping on Philly and Washington. How many years in a row do Caron and Jamison have to show off the skills?

1. Boston
2. Philadelphia
3. Detroit
4. Orlando
5. Washington
6. Cleveland
7. Toronto
8. Atlanta
9. Miami
10. Charlotte
11. Indiana
12. Chicago
13. Milwaukee
14. Jersey
15. Knicks

Raoul Duke
10-22-2008, 05:45 PM
Man, I can't believe how hard people are sleeping on Philly and Washington. How many years in a row do Caron and Jamison have to show off the skills?

1. Boston
2. Philadelphia
3. Detroit
4. Orlando
5. Washington
6. Cleveland
7. Toronto
8. Atlanta
9. Miami
10. Charlotte
11. Indiana
12. Chicago
13. Milwaukee
14. Jersey
15. Knicks

Are you really still a Jamaal fan?

Plax80
10-22-2008, 06:30 PM
What!? No way we get less than 30 wins this season. This team has enough talent (maybe not proven talent) to make it within the top 10 teams in the east.

Could you explain to me how you came to the conclusion that this team is only capable of 26 wins?

I could see the Pacers get less than 30 wins, but not with this group we have now.

Sorry-

I missed the transaction where we got LeBron James for Troy Murphy

Dece
10-22-2008, 07:29 PM
Are you really still a Jamaal fan?

I will always be a Jamaal fan. I like Jamaal more than I like the Pacers, to be perfectly honest... in much the same way I liked Reggie more than the Pacers. Wherever he ends up I will probably follow more closely than the Pacers, assuming he ends up somewhere I can stomach to cheer for... I wish there were someway he could be traded to the Thunder, 76ers, Warriors, or Wizards.

I accept that he's been injury prone, and that he has had certain problems getting along with his coaches at points in his career, but I do not really blame him for his off court actions the way most do. I think he has been in the wrong place at the wrong time at times. He's never been convicted of even a misdemeanor, let alone a felony to my knowledge, and I believe in innocent until proven guilty.

He is a guy that has helped his entire family get out of the ghetto by playing basketball and staying clean. I think that is a very compelling, and very noble thing. Every year he does the coat drive in Indianapolis helping the less fortunate stay warm - we don't hear about that though, we hear about crazies chasing and shooting at him while depicting him as the villain of the story.

Truth be told I think more highly of Jamaal than I do a lot of the people of Indianapolis when it comes down to it. Read some of the comments here: http://www.topix.com/forum/indy/TQUMVVK363HA3I1M3

"How about telling us who the owner is so that we can buy some target shooting lessons for him and the next time he can solve a major problem of the Pacers. " Just one of the countless demeaning, inhumane, and racist comments to come out of residents of your city. You can read many more there, it's fairly shocking how hateful people can be over a basketball player. I think Indianapolis could be a lot better served in cleaning up their obvious crime and hate issues, than worrying about Jamaal.

I will become Iowa State alumni in May, so it doesn't hurt that he led us to back to back big 12 championships, as well as led us into being the only team in history to beat Kansas (suck it Kansas!) 4 consecutive times.

Will Galen
10-22-2008, 07:35 PM
This thread is a bit premature, we still have nine days to go before the season starts, and some teams are a major injury to their star player away from making the playoffs.

Some observations though.

I still hate posters using icons for teams. I didn't read those posts.

New York and the Pacers are going to surprise a lot of people.

Portland doesn't have the right mix. They won't be as good as people think unless they trade some of those young guys for vets that know how to win.

duke dynamite
10-22-2008, 08:46 PM
Sorry-

I missed the transaction where we got LeBron James for Troy Murphy
James has nothing to do with this. That doesn't make any sense. I don't understand!?

FinPacers
10-23-2008, 10:33 AM
Well, here is my take on this topic:

Non-playoff teams - East (in no particular order):
Charlotte, Milwaukee, New York, Miami, New Jersey, Atlanta and Chicago

Non-playoff teams - West (in no particular order):
Memphis, Minnesota, Oklahoma City, Sacramento, Dallas, Denver and Golden State

After 1st round of play offs will be eliminated - East:
Indiana, Washington, Orlando and Detroit

After 1st round of play offs will be eliminated - West:
Phoenix, San Antonio, Portland and L.A. Clippers

After 2nd round of play offs will be eliminated - East:
Toronto and Cleveland

After 2nd round of play offs will be eliminated - West:
Utah and L.A. Lakers

After East Conference finals will be eliminated:
Philadelphia

After West Conference finals will be eliminated:
New Orleans

NBA finals:
East: Boston
West: Houston

Final Prediction: Houston wins 4-2


It is clear that any major injury for the core Houston players (I'd say basically for their starting lineup) during playoffs will inevitably destroy this prediction - but hey, essentially you just have to be healthy enough in order to compete and contend for the title.

McKeyFan
10-23-2008, 11:20 AM
James has nothing to do with this. That doesn't make any sense. I don't understand!?

You won't until you exercise the Ignore button.

Speed
10-23-2008, 11:37 AM
I still hate posters using icons for teams. I didn't read those posts.

Me too!

Go :thepacers

Pacers
10-23-2008, 07:06 PM
Before the second half of last season, I hadn't seen a game of NBA action in five years. Bear with me!

East

1. :celtics:
2. :sixers:
3. :thepiston
4. :magic:
5. :cavaliers
6. :thepacers
7. :hawks:
8. :wizards:

--------------------

9. :bulls:
10. :raptors:
11. :heat:
12. :bobcats:
13. :bucks:
14. :knicks:
15. :nets:


Playoffs:

1. :celtics: over 8. :wizards: in 6
5. :cavaliers over 4. :magic: in 7
3. :thepiston over 6. :thepacers in 5
7. :hawks: over 2. :sixers: in 7

1. :celtics: over 5. :cavaliers in 6
7. :hawks: over 3. :thepiston in 6

7. :hawks: over 1. :celtics: in 7

West

1. :hornets:
2. :rockets:
3. :lakers:
4. :spurs:
5. :jazz:
6. :mavericks
7. :suns:
8. :blazers:

-------------

9. :warriors:
10. :grizzlies
11. :timberwolves:
12. :nuggets:
13. :clippers:
14. :kings:
15. :thunder:

Playoffs

1. :hornets: over 8. :blazers: in 5
5. :jazz: over 4. :spurs: in 6
3. :lakers: over 6. :mavericks in 6
7. :suns: over 2. :rockets: in 7

1. :hornets: over 5. :jazz: in 7
3. :lakers: over 7. :suns: in 7

1. :hornets: over 3. :lakers: in 6

Finals

:hornets: over :hawks: in 5

duke dynamite
10-23-2008, 07:34 PM
No way Atlanta makes it that far...lol.

Plax80
10-23-2008, 10:39 PM
This thread is a bit premature, we still have nine days to go before the season starts, and some teams are a major injury to their star player away from making the playoffs.

Some observations though.

I still hate posters using icons for teams. I didn't read those posts.

New York and the Pacers are going to surprise a lot of people.

Portland doesn't have the right mix. They won't be as good as people think unless they trade some of those young guys for vets that know how to win.

I tend to agree with you that the Knicks and even are talent-less Pacers could surprise and compete for an 8 seed.

But how do you say that Portland doesn't have the right mix. Oden and Aldridge could be mixed with any group in the league and they would be a top 10 team. That is a team that is being run by a competent GM. I know they got lucky with Oden but they have drafted and traded extremely well.........unlike some former legend that I could speak of.

Plax80
10-23-2008, 10:44 PM
No way Atlanta makes it that far...lol.

Did I miss something or didn't Atlanta take Boston to a game 7 in the playoffs ??

With a PG who had only been there 2 months and a couple of 21 yr old forwards just getting their feet wet and a top 10 talent and near superstar in Joe Johnson. Oh and Al Horford is now a second year player............

But you are right.........I'm sure they would much prefer Troy Murphy, Roy Hibbert and Jeff Foster down low to Josh Smith, Marvin Williams and Al Horford.

That says nothing for the obvious talent gap between Bibby-Johnson and Ford-Dunleavy in the backcourt.

Geez.......

I love the kool-Aid too..........but some of you guys need to lay off the Everclear.

duke dynamite
10-23-2008, 11:24 PM
Did I miss something or didn't Atlanta take Boston to a game 7 in the playoffs ??

With a PG who had only been there 2 months and a couple of 21 yr old forwards just getting their feet wet and a top 10 talent and near superstar in Joe Johnson. Oh and Al Horford is now a second year player............

But you are right.........I'm sure they would much prefer Troy Murphy, Roy Hibbert and Jeff Foster down low to Josh Smith, Marvin Williams and Al Horford.

That says nothing for the obvious talent gap between Bibby-Johnson and Ford-Dunleavy in the backcourt.

Geez.......

I love the kool-Aid too..........but some of you guys need to lay off the Everclear.
For one, it makes the phone calls go away. And I like it. Addictions are fun.

Anyway, that first round was just a joke. Atlanta just had a run going on and Boston was...well I don't know what you'd call that.

Naptown_Seth
10-24-2008, 12:47 AM
I do the full teams tomorrow, but right now I'm saying the Pacers win 30 games. I could see that turning into 26 as well.

How? Um, no interior defense, 2 rookies getting major time, a star player that's more of a #2 guy, a starting PG that still has some injury concerns, and a coaching method that has yet to be proven out in the least (in terms of big time winning that is, not "just okay").

The team is rebuilding. It's a good thing. It's just not typically a winning thing. Win the lottery and get Blake Griffin as I said elsewhere. That'll get some huge excitement going.

owl
10-24-2008, 07:13 AM
I do the full teams tomorrow, but right now I'm saying the Pacers win 30 games. I could see that turning into 26 as well.

How? Um, no interior defense, 2 rookies getting major time, a star player that's more of a #2 guy, a starting PG that still has some injury concerns, and a coaching method that has yet to be proven out in the least (in terms of big time winning that is, not "just okay").

The team is rebuilding. It's a good thing. It's just not typically a winning thing. Win the lottery and get Blake Griffin as I said elsewhere. That'll get some huge excitement going.

The way I look at is compared to last years team which almost made the playoffs, what has changed with this years team. The Pacers added two legit starting point guards. Last year they had none, physical excuse or not. At center the Pacers are much more reliable with Rasho and Hibbert. Defense on the perimeter will be greatly improved with Ford,Jack and Rush. That helps the frontline people.

Pacers go 41-41 and I am not uncomfortable saying that.

Finals ?? Lakers and Boston

Boston

31andonly
10-24-2008, 07:44 AM
EAST

1. Boston
2. Detroit
3. Toronto
4. Cleveland
5. Orlando
6. Philadelphia
7. Washington
8. Indiana

9. Atlanta
10. Miami
11. Chicago
12. Charlotte
13. Milwaukee
14. New York
15. New Jersey

WEST

1. New Orleans
2. Los Angeles Lakers
3. Houston
4. San Antonio
5. Utah
6. Phoenix
7. Dallas
8. Portland

9. Los Angeles Clippers
10. Golden State
11. Denver
12. Memphis
13. Minnesota
14. Sacramento
15. Oklahoma City

pwee31
10-24-2008, 08:30 PM
I'll just do who I feel will make the playoffs, and just miss out, and then how I see it playing out.

East
1. Boston
2. Detroit
3. Orlando
4. Philly
5. Cleveland
6. Toronto
7. Miami
8. Indiana

Just miss
9. Washington
10. Chicago


West
1. New Orleans
2. LA Lakers
3. Utah
4. Phoenix
5. Houston
6. San Antonio
7. Portland
8. Dallas

Phoenix defeating Boston in the Finals

Infinite MAN_force
10-24-2008, 08:50 PM
EAST

1. Boston
2. Cleveland
3. Detroit
4. Philidelphia
5. Toronto
6. Orlando
7. Indiana
8. Washington
..................
9. Atlanta
10. Miami
11. Chicago
12. Charlotte
13. Milwaukee
14. New York
15. New Jersey

West

1. Lakers
2. Houston
3. New Orleans
4. Utah
5. San Antonio
6. Portland
7. Dallas
8. Pheonix
...................
9. Denver
10. Clippers
11. Golden State
12. Memphis
13. Minnesota
14. Sacramento
15. OKC


PLAYOFFS???

EAST:

RD1. Celts over Wiz :: Cavs over Indy :: Magic over Detroit :: 76rs over Raps

RD2. Celts over Magic :: Cavs over 76rs

ECF. Cavs over Celts

WEST:

RD1. LA over suns :: Rockets over Mavs :: NO over Portland :: Jazz ova Spurs

RD2. LA over NO :: Rockets over Jazz

WCF. Rockets over LA

DA WINNAR!?

Lebron over Rockets!!!!!!

http://clevelandsports.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/lebron-james.jpg

pianoman
10-24-2008, 10:24 PM
East
---------------
1. Boston
2. Cleveland
3. Orlando
4. Philly
5. Detroit
6. Indiana
7. Toronto
8. Miami

West
----------
1. Houston
2. New Orleans
3. LA Lakers
4. San Antonio
5. Utah
6. Dallas
7. Pheonix
8. Portland

Plax80
12-06-2008, 05:58 PM
What!? No way we get less than 30 wins this season. This team has enough talent (maybe not proven talent) to make it within the top 10 teams in the east.

Could you explain to me how you came to the conclusion that this team is only capable of 26 wins?

I could see the Pacers get less than 30 wins, but not with this group we have now.


Looks like I underestimated Jersey.

Other than that.........

I'd like to thank the academy for the award for best Pacer prognosticator in the forum. I'd liek to especially thank larry legend for making it so easy to conclude that we would stink. Best wishes to Jim O'brien and jamall Tinsley for rescuing their careers elsewhere if they ever get esacpe clause.

Jonathan
12-10-2008, 10:54 AM
Why does everybody have the Cavs in third place? I think they stink. They are a Lebron James injury away from challenging the Knicks for worst team. You cannot have that much weight on a single player and expect him to produce every year. He has played year-round basketball.

This is worse than my prediction of the Rams making the playoffs.

Plax80
03-26-2009, 10:36 PM
EC:

1. Boston
2. Cleveland
3. Toronto
4. Orlando
5. Detriot
6. Atlanta
7. Philadelphia
8. Miami
9. Chicago
10. Charlotte
11. Washington
12. Milwaukee
13. Indiana
14. Knicks
15. Jersey

Cleveland over Boston in EC
lakers over Spurs in WC
Cavs over Lakers

Pacers 26-56

JOB still gets much consideration for coach of the year for getting 26 wins out of this roster


Revisiting my preseason forecast .......... I think I would have done well in Vegas......although my Toronto pick turns out to be waaaaayyyyyy off. Im real surprised by how poorly they played with Bosh, bargnani, JO and later Marion.

Bball
03-26-2009, 11:13 PM
New York and the Pacers are going to surprise a lot of people.



Hmmmmm I'm sure some people were surprised... It's a good thing you didn't elaborate on how/why they'd be surprising people! ;)

Naptown_Seth
03-27-2009, 12:54 AM
Drat. Never got back in to do the full team listing.

But I see a lot of people with the Pacers in the playoffs, and not just the 8th seed either. Then I see my prediction of 30 wins. They've got 30 with 10 to go, but how many more will they add to that total?

So yet another year people think I'm being negative rather than just realistic. Heck, I wasn't even PO'd about their low prospects. In fact it was a more enjoyable season than I expected it to be.


Jay - had TJ scouted perfect, had the Bobcats in the playoffs. It's closer than most people thought it would be.

Hicks
03-27-2009, 07:22 AM
I will always think my .500 prediction would have been right on the money without that stupid bone spur I didn't know about at the time. This is a .500 team having a sub par year.

Plax80
03-29-2009, 06:19 PM
I tend to agree with you that the Knicks and even are talent-less Pacers could surprise and compete for an 8 seed.

But how do you say that Portland doesn't have the right mix. Oden and Aldridge could be mixed with any group in the league and they would be a top 10 team. That is a team that is being run by a competent GM. I know they got lucky with Oden but they have drafted and traded extremely well.........unlike some former legend that I could speak of.

Gee-

I guess my dumb opinions about Portland and Atlanta are right as well.

For being so dumb......I sure seem to get "real lucky" with my preseason picks.