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BostonConnection
10-13-2008, 05:58 PM
:cool: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!! :cool:


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Game Time Start: 8:00 pm EST

Pacers Pre-Season Roster
NUM PLAYER POS HT WT DOB FROM YRS
9 Maceo Baston F 6-10 230 05/29/1975 Michigan 3
44 Austin Croshere F 6-10 240 05/01/1975 Providence 11
6 Marquis Daniels G 6-6 200 01/07/1981 Auburn 5
2 Josh Davis F 6-8 235 08/10/1980 Wyoming 3
12 Travis Diener G 6-1 175 03/01/1982 Marquette 3
17 Mike Dunleavy F-G 6-9 230 09/15/1980 Duke 6
5 T.J. Ford G 6-0 165 03/24/1983 Texas 4
10 Jeff Foster F 6-11 250 01/16/1977 Texas State 9
23 Stephen Graham F 6-6 215 06/11/1982 Oklahoma State 3
33 Danny Granger F-G 6-8 228 04/20/1983 New Mexico 3
55 Roy Hibbert C 7-2 278 12/11/1986 Georgetown R
1 Jarrett Jack G 6-3 197 10/28/1983 Georgia Tech 3
Eddie Jones G-F 6-6 200 10/20/1971 Temple 14
32 Josh McRoberts F 6-10 240 02/28/1987 Duke 1
3 Troy Murphy F-C 6-11 245 05/02/1980 Notre Dame 7
8 Rasho Nesterovic C 7-0 255 05/30/1976 Slovenia 10
25 Brandon Rush G 6-6 210 07/07/1985 Kansas R
11 Jamaal Tinsley G 6-3 185 02/28/1978 Iowa State 7

Grizzlies Pre-Season Roster
NUM PLAYER POS HT WT DOB FROM YRS
00 Darrell Arthur F 6-9 225 03/25/1988 Kansas R
7 Greg Buckner G 6-4 210 09/16/1976 Clemson 9
11 Mike Conley G 6-1 180 10/11/1987 Ohio State 1
3 Javaris Crittenton G 6-5 200 12/31/1987 Georgia Tech 1
33 Marc Gasol C 7-1 265 01/29/1985 Spain R
22 Rudy Gay F 6-8 222 08/17/1986 Connecticut 2
15 Hamed Haddadi C 7-2 254 05/19/1985 I.R. of Iran R
55 Marko Jaric G 6-7 224 10/12/1978 Serbia 6
1 Kyle Lowry G 6-0 175 03/25/1986 Villanova 2
32 O.J. Mayo G 6-4 210 11/05/1987 USC R
31 Darko Milicic C-F 7-0 275 06/20/1985 Serbia 5
23 Brent Petway F 6-8 205 05/12/1985 Michigan R
13 Quinton Ross G-F 6-6 193 04/30/1981 Southern Methodist 4
8 Antoine Walker F 6-9 245 08/12/1976 Kentucky 12
21 Hakim Warrick F 6-9 219 07/08/1982 Syracuse 3

Pre-Season Records: (W-L)
:thepacers 1-1
:grizzlies 1-2

MagicRat
10-13-2008, 06:08 PM
Now that we have our first BC game thread the pre-season has officially begun....:woot2:

Welcome back.....

Pacemaker
10-13-2008, 06:13 PM
Online link anyone ?

BostonConnection
10-13-2008, 06:14 PM
Now that we have our first BC game thread the pre-season has officially begun....:woot2:

Welcome back.....
Thanks MR. I've been away from here a looong time, hoping to get my forum legs back... :D

Besides, the way the Red Sox are playing today I won't have many other sports distractions for long :cry:

MrSparko
10-13-2008, 06:31 PM
I'll even go a step further and gaurensheed that Eddie Jones will infact never play a minute for the Pacers. Ever.

Inca Street
10-13-2008, 06:55 PM
Online link anyone ?...thx

Eindar
10-13-2008, 07:42 PM
Pretty sure the only way you're getting this came on TV is from someone's home movie of the game. Seems like neither broadcast team is showing it, so that would leave, what, the in-house feed for people going to the restroom or buying nachos?

Quis
10-13-2008, 07:43 PM
MyP2P says the game isn't televised anywhere. NBA.com's Courtside Live! and the free Audio League Pass are about as close as you're gonna get to watching the game without actually watching the game.

McKeyFan
10-13-2008, 07:54 PM
Pretty sure the only way you're getting this came on TV is from someone's home movie of the game. Seems like neither broadcast team is showing it, so that would leave, what, the in-house feed for people going to the restroom or buying nachos?

Hope springs eternal.

kester99
10-13-2008, 08:02 PM
Audio League Pass has the Memphis b'cast only. Crud.

MrSparko
10-13-2008, 08:03 PM
I heard they were going to run it, but due to both teams respectfully declining to wear purple, gold, green, and/or trade for Lebron that a rerun of Full House will be airing instead.

Will Galen
10-13-2008, 08:07 PM
Did I hear right, Granger isn't playing tonight?

idioteque
10-13-2008, 08:08 PM
BC is back! The Pacers season has officially begun.

Eddie Jones will never, ever play a minute for the Pacers.

Will Galen
10-13-2008, 08:09 PM
Ford, Jack, Rush, Nest, and Cro are starting.

Speed
10-13-2008, 08:14 PM
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/gamecast?gameId=281013029'

This is cool.

CableKC
10-13-2008, 08:24 PM
Typical.....2-9 run by the Grizzlies. Geez.....from what I can hear....Rudy Gay is owning BRush.

Why isn't Granger playing?

idioteque
10-13-2008, 08:26 PM
Typical.....2-9 run by the Grizzlies. Geez.....from what I can hear....Rudy Gay is owning BRush.

Why isn't Granger playing?

Maybe Granger isn't playing just to get Rush some playing time. I have no problem with that. There is no need for Danny to play a lot of preseason.

I am glad to see Rush hopefully taking something in from getting owned by Rudy Gay. I know they're different types of players, but Rush will be a success if he can be even near the player Rudy Gay is going to be.

Pacemaker
10-13-2008, 08:27 PM
Rasho killing it !! 5 for 5 !!

idioteque
10-13-2008, 08:28 PM
What I don't understand is Croshere starting or even getting more than or even near a quarters worth of playing time in any preseason game. He can learn the system in practice, he isn't getting any better, and we have younger players who need the development.

duke dynamite
10-13-2008, 08:28 PM
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/gamecast?gameId=281013029'

This is cool.
A lot faster than NBA.com...

Justin Tyme
10-13-2008, 08:30 PM
4:30 to go in 1st qtr with Memphis up 21-12 and the Pacers have "ONE" rebound!!!!!

Pacemaker
10-13-2008, 08:30 PM
A lot faster than NBA.com...
It's pretty good !!!

Pacemaker
10-13-2008, 08:34 PM
Don't know why but I'm starting to give a thought about keeping Davis over Cro.

MagicRat
10-13-2008, 08:34 PM
Maybe Granger isn't playing just to get Rush some playing time. I have no problem with that. There is no need for Danny to play a lot of preseason.

Boyle says Danny "tweaked" his elbow in practice.....

11 point run by the Pacers to tie it....

JayRedd
10-13-2008, 08:34 PM
Online link anyone ?

x2?

Pacemaker
10-13-2008, 08:35 PM
11-0 Pacers run !!

Pacemaker
10-13-2008, 08:38 PM
x2?

Im doing the NBA Audio with the espn gamecast.

aero
10-13-2008, 08:39 PM
wow...see..this kind of stuff ALWAYS happens in the games that arent on tv...always.

JayRedd
10-13-2008, 08:39 PM
Im doing the NBA Audio with the espn gamecast.

I certainly don't care about a pre-season game enough to do that or get anything out of that.

Thanks for the suggestion regardless.

duke dynamite
10-13-2008, 08:40 PM
Wow, way to come back.

Quis
10-13-2008, 08:40 PM
Is Audio League Pass not working for anyone else?

Pacemaker
10-13-2008, 08:41 PM
I certainly don't care about a pre-season game enough to do that or get anything out of that.

Thanks for the suggestion regardless.

It's your choice. Go Pacers !!!

kester99
10-13-2008, 08:46 PM
Is Audio League Pass not working for anyone else?

It's working...can't get the pacers broadcasters, though.

Justin Tyme
10-13-2008, 08:46 PM
At end of 1st qtr Pacers 23-21, Josh Davis 3 pts on 1-2 1-1 with 2 rebounds and a steal.

Pacers end up with 8 rebounds with 7 the last 4:30 of the qtr.

Pacemaker
10-13-2008, 08:47 PM
Despite 2 quick fouls Hibbert is looking good !!

duke dynamite
10-13-2008, 08:48 PM
I certainly don't care about a pre-season game enough to do that or get anything out of that.

Thanks for the suggestion regardless.
Eh, something to do on a Monday night during the commercials of my favorite shows.

MagicRat
10-13-2008, 08:48 PM
Roy is getting better and better. He's going to be a factor this year....and he's a good kid. - Slick

duke dynamite
10-13-2008, 08:49 PM
Despite 2 quick fouls Hibbert is looking good !!
The way it sounds, yeah Hibbert is doing quite well.

kester99
10-13-2008, 08:49 PM
Don't know why but I'm starting to give a thought about keeping Davis over Cro.

I've been thinking that. He outplays Austin this preseason.

Pacemaker
10-13-2008, 08:50 PM
In 6 min s far Hibbert stats: 3-4 fg, 2-2 ft, 1 reb, 1 stl, 1 blk, 8 pts and 1 TO.

Justin Tyme
10-13-2008, 08:52 PM
The way it sounds, yeah Hibbert is doing quite well.

Yep, 8 points, but only 1 rebound. That's 18 points of of the 5 spot.

Pacemaker
10-13-2008, 08:55 PM
I've been thinking that. He outplays Austin this preseason.

If Davis has that coveted 3 point shot as Austin does his youth may help his case. Plus he's looked better than Cro so far.

duke dynamite
10-13-2008, 08:56 PM
Yep, 8 points, but only 1 rebound. That's 18 points of of the 5 spot.
8 More from the 5 than we would have seen last season from Foster in an entire game.

duke dynamite
10-13-2008, 08:57 PM
We are in the Bonus.

duke dynamite
10-13-2008, 08:59 PM
If Davis has that coveted 3 point shot as Austin does his youth may help his case. Plus he's looked better than Cro so far.
From what I understand, is that we really wanted Croshere to lead this team in the locker room. I'm not sure on that, but I like him.

Davis, sure, give him a shot. But we really need to see if he is consistent first.

duke dynamite
10-13-2008, 09:00 PM
They are fouling us like crazy now...lol

Quis
10-13-2008, 09:04 PM
According to ESPN, Roy and Rasho are a combined 9/10 for 20 points in 18 minutes. Very impressive.

duke dynamite
10-13-2008, 09:06 PM
Their starters are basically back in. Here goes the turnaround.

Not bad for this group of guys missing their core to take on a full team this well.

Quis
10-13-2008, 09:09 PM
Looks like Ford is in Iverson-mode. I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing.

duke dynamite
10-13-2008, 09:10 PM
Looks like Ford is in Iverson-mode. I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing.
I dunno, but it looks like he is doing well tonight.

BlueNGold
10-13-2008, 09:13 PM
34 points from JO at the half!....err...I mean, Rasho TJ and Hibbert.

duke dynamite
10-13-2008, 09:14 PM
Halftime MVP's:
Rasho - 12 mins 6-7 12pts
Hibbert - 7 mins 3-4 8pts
Ford - 19 mins 5-12 14pts

Mention:
J. Davis - 11 mins 2-5 7pts

Pacemaker
10-13-2008, 09:15 PM
I'm pretty confident that Ford will know when to turn it on and off.

maragin
10-13-2008, 09:17 PM
I'm pretty confident that Ford will know when to turn it on and off.

You turn Iverson mode off during practice.

Pacemaker
10-13-2008, 09:18 PM
34 points from JO at the half!....err...I mean, Rasho TJ and Hibbert.

I'm liking this center by committee performance.

duke dynamite
10-13-2008, 09:22 PM
You turn Iverson mode off during practice.
Practice!?

BlueNGold
10-13-2008, 09:23 PM
I'm liking this center by committee performance.

9 for 11 from the floor with 20 points at the half is probably better efficiency AND production than what JO would ever do, including in summer league...:laugh:

I guess TJ is just gravy...

Pacemaker
10-13-2008, 09:28 PM
9 for 11 from the floor with 20 points at the half is probably better efficiency AND production than what JO would ever do, including in summer league...:laugh:

I guess TJ is just gravy...

I totally agree with you!

pwee31
10-13-2008, 09:31 PM
Really good experience for the team is taking place this preseason with a couple starters being out.

Should really help when the regular season begins, as long as the guys that are missing the games, can get reps and mesh with the new guys

JayRedd
10-13-2008, 09:34 PM
It appears as though Mayo is doing work.

duke dynamite
10-13-2008, 09:35 PM
Work or all the work?

duke dynamite
10-13-2008, 09:37 PM
They are letting it slip away...

granger33
10-13-2008, 09:47 PM
Man im Lovin Roy Hibbert

CableKC
10-13-2008, 09:47 PM
Welcome to our 3rd QTR Slump.

McKeyFan
10-13-2008, 09:48 PM
You turn Iverson mode off during practice.

Well done.

JayRedd
10-13-2008, 09:49 PM
Work or all the work?

Dunno...He's now 5/7 from three though.

These guys have a potentially great young nucleus.

JayRedd
10-13-2008, 09:50 PM
Well done.

Thirded.

CableKC
10-13-2008, 09:54 PM
Seriously, why is it that we always do really crappy in the 3rd QTR?

We suck so badly in the 3rd QTR so often that it's no longer an anamoly but a symptom of a continual problem.

duke dynamite
10-13-2008, 09:54 PM
Mayo is lighting us up...another 3.

LG33
10-13-2008, 09:55 PM
Our defense is performing well, I hear.

MrSparko
10-13-2008, 09:58 PM
Well I must point out we Are missing Murphy. So this is all moot.

CableKC
10-13-2008, 10:01 PM
Geez...Mayo and Warrick are having their way with us. It's a NBA Dunk fest for the Grizzlies.

CableKC
10-13-2008, 10:02 PM
Mayo is lighting us up...another 3.
Let's see....the 1st game that we lost....we lost due to FTs....which likely led to some heavy duty FT practice the day after......we're getting killed ( yet again ) from the perimeter....I wonder what they will be practicing tomorrow :chin:

CableKC
10-13-2008, 10:03 PM
Our defense is performing well, I hear.
Well....our perimeter defense is as good as it was last season. :suicide4:

CableKC
10-13-2008, 10:05 PM
LOL.....Quinton Ross inability to hit 3pt ( much less any ) shots is keeping us in this game.

JayRedd
10-13-2008, 10:09 PM
7/17 out of TJ, eh? May as well get used to that now.

CableKC
10-13-2008, 10:10 PM
Geez....Hibbert is drawing alot of fouls out there on Darko and Gasol.

granger33
10-13-2008, 10:10 PM
Hibbert is a man Beast

Mr. Sobchak
10-13-2008, 10:11 PM
Big Roy with the block then a jumper.

Pacemaker
10-13-2008, 10:11 PM
Hibbert 15 pts 7 reb and 3 blk !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

granger33
10-13-2008, 10:11 PM
Roy Hibbert
5-7, 15 Pts
7 Rebs, 3 blocks, 1 Assists

CableKC
10-13-2008, 10:11 PM
I love me some Hibbert!!!! Blocks Gasol shot then hits the 2pt shot.

Placebo
10-13-2008, 10:12 PM
Roy Hibbert
5-7, 15 Pts
7 Rebs, 3 blocks, 1 Assists

in 16 minutes.

CableKC
10-13-2008, 10:12 PM
7/17 out of TJ, eh? May as well get used to that now.
Given that we don't have any real offensive options other then Jack and Rush out there.....I'm not surprised. Let's see what happens when Granger, Dunleavy and Murphy return.

I just wished that he got the ball more to Hibbert and Rasho.

Pacemaker
10-13-2008, 10:12 PM
Roy Hibbert
5-7, 15 Pts
7 Rebs, 3 blocks, 1 Assists

I'm lovin it !

MagicRat
10-13-2008, 10:13 PM
Mark and Slick both impressed with Roy, also. Mark says he doesn't follow the college game, so he was under the impression that Roy was going to take several years to be ready but he looks good. Slick follows up by saying that Roy is really going to help the Pacers this year.

MillerTime
10-13-2008, 10:14 PM
Roy Hibbert
5-7, 15 Pts
7 Rebs, 3 blocks, 1 Assists

I just noticed that too.. :eek: WOW. Hibbert is the man

LG33
10-13-2008, 10:14 PM
Well....our perimeter defense is as good as it was last season. :suicide4:

Here We Go Again...

LG33
10-13-2008, 10:20 PM
Didn't make sense to me either unnamed Grizzlies announcer.

HC
10-13-2008, 10:25 PM
7 for 17 for TJ? I'm not really complaining. He isn't going to always take that many, and for a guy not known to be a great shooter that is nearly 50%.

MillerTime
10-13-2008, 10:25 PM
How come Granger and Daniels didnt play this game? They arent injured are they?

MagicRat
10-13-2008, 10:28 PM
That Haddadi's gotta be Paul Bunyan over in Iran. - Slick

Pacemaker
10-13-2008, 10:29 PM
Hibbert: 17 pts (6-9 fg) 9 reb and 3 blk

MillerTime
10-13-2008, 10:30 PM
[QUOTE=HCPacerIN;790675]7 for 17 for TJ? I'm not really complaining. He isn't going to always take that many, and for a guy not known to be a great shooter that is nearly 50%.

closer to 40% than 50%. Its around 41%

McKeyFan
10-13-2008, 10:31 PM
7 for 17 for TJ? I'm not really complaining. He isn't going to always take that many, and for a guy not known to be a great shooter that is nearly 50%.

closer to 40% than 50%. Its around 41%

For a great shooter, it is 41 percent. For Ford, it's 50 percent.

:whoknows:

kester99
10-13-2008, 10:31 PM
Not too bad a game. Memphis played their best players a lot. We didn't even have Mike, Danny, Troy, etc.

LG33
10-13-2008, 10:33 PM
That Haddadi's gotta be Paul Bunyan over in Iran. - Slick

I had to listen to the Memphis broadcast, where they discussed the fine arts (White Snake) and criticized Bird and Co. for the Shawne trade. I swear though, that Hadadi guy is going to bring peace to the Middle East.

docpaul
10-13-2008, 10:33 PM
Hard to complain with a 8 point deficit considering that Granger, Dunleavy, Daniels, Murphy didn't even play...

Makes me so pleased for Roy to see him off to a good start. Good kid, and he deserves it. Rush, by his line, looked pretty meh...

granger33
10-13-2008, 10:34 PM
Jarrett Jack also played well.

I know its only pre-season. I would love to see the starting lineup:

Ford
Dunleavy
Granger
Hibbert
Rasho

Placebo
10-13-2008, 10:38 PM
Jarrett Jack also played well.

I know its only pre-season. I would love to see the starting lineup:

Ford
Dunleavy
Granger
Hibbert
Rasho

Do you really wanna see Hibbert at 4?
I like both Rasho and Roy but c'mon that would be the slowest f-court in the league.

LG33
10-13-2008, 10:39 PM
No need to curse now. I think that lineup would be better with Foster at the 3 as well, and perhaps McRoberts at SG, depending on whether or not Maceo Baston is healthy.

Pacers4Life
10-13-2008, 10:49 PM
This is a somewhat relevant number to me: 0/4 for the Cro's nest from deep. This is the third straight game in which he hasn't been able to the broad side of the barn from there. I like him but what are we keeping him around for then?

All in all still much to be desired. No double-digit rebounders again and a collective struggle from deep. Looking forward to the regular season

MillerTime
10-13-2008, 10:51 PM
Hard to complain with a 8 point deficit considering that Granger, Dunleavy, Daniels, Murphy didn't even play...

Makes me so pleased for Roy to see him off to a good start. Good kid, and he deserves it. Rush, by his line, looked pretty meh...

Ya I cant wait to see our starting lineup. I guess Bird is trying to get a feel of who to cut. All the reserves got extended mins. I would be nice to see Ford, Dunleavy, Granger, Murphy and Rasho all start. Im guessing near the end of the preseason, we will see them all start so they can mesh togther

HC
10-13-2008, 10:54 PM
[QUOTE=MillerTime;790678]

closer to 40% than 50%. Its around 41%

Actually a bit worse, he ended up 7/18. Anyways it is pointless to argue. Had he hit another shot or two it would've been closer to 50%. That was my point.

Quis
10-13-2008, 11:01 PM
Hibbert looks great. He's got every tool needed to be one of the top centers in the league.

CableKC
10-13-2008, 11:06 PM
Again......not to belittle the point......but this is another example of a loss that could easily be attributed to a craptacular 16-33 3rd QTR.

I don't care that the Grizzlies were playing their key starters and we were missing Key Starters......but really crappy 3rd QTR performances is a hallmark of JO'Bs offense.

Can someone please explain to me why this always happens?

Naptown_Seth
10-13-2008, 11:28 PM
Rush not making enough shots is meh, but otherwise his line is on par with what I would expect from him and is certainly decent in my book.

He's your backup SG, all purpose perimeter guy. Put up 3's and 4's in every category and you can't complain, especially since you have to expect him to only get 4-5 shots on most nights.


Hibbert is surprisingly ahead of pace it would seem. Hope that trend continues when the games count. Talk about a feel good story.

JayRedd
10-13-2008, 11:55 PM
Actually a bit worse, he ended up 7/18. Anyways it is pointless to argue. Had he hit another shot or two it would've been closer to 50%. That was my point.

And if he made another 11, it would have been 100%.

Bball
10-13-2008, 11:58 PM
7-17 is not 'dominating'? :p

-Bball

Infinite MAN_force
10-14-2008, 12:10 AM
Well, Hibbert way outperformed rasho in less minutes. He may push for the starting job quicker than we anticipated.

17 points, 9 boards, 3 blocks, an assist, on 66% shooting.... in 22 minutes. Preseason or no, that is an excellent statline. What a find at pick# 17. Kudos to bird. Did I mention 5-6 from the line?

Im loving it...

PS: I love how people have been hiding out waiting for a "slightly" subpar performance as an excuse to criticize TJ, as if leading the team in scoring is subpar. Somebody had to score the ball, and options were somewhat limited. With the team healthy I doubt he will have to take that many shots, his assist numbers will probably go up quite a bit as well.

Quis
10-14-2008, 12:16 AM
Ford's 41% tonight is 30% better than what Danny Granger is shooting this preseason. He forced his offense, most likely due to half of last year's offense out of action. Once those guys return he can focus more on playmaking. And with all of that said, 41% isn't that bad of a shooting percentage, just a little below average.

Hibbert is so poised and just oozes intelligence. He also has a lot of skills on both sides of the ball. Combine all of that with his work ethic and size and this guy should've been a top-10 pick.

Infinite MAN_force
10-14-2008, 12:24 AM
Maybe premature, but Hibbert is looking like the biggest steal of this draft.

JayRedd
10-14-2008, 12:28 AM
PS: I love how people have been hiding out waiting for a "slightly" subpar performance as an excuse to criticize TJ, as if leading the team in scoring is subpar.

I like TJ quite a bit and think he's going to be fantastic for us as long as he's healthy. And I think there's literally zero validity about anything that happens before the Regular Season and didn't even see this game tonight. I'm just saying I expect to see TJ take 15ish shots at least once every three games or so. I'm not saying that's a bad thing...I'm just saying.

Infinite MAN_force
10-14-2008, 12:37 AM
I like TJ quite a bit and think he's going to be fantastic for us as long as he's healthy. And I think there's literally zero validity about anything that happens before the Regular Season and didn't even see this game tonight. I'm just saying I expect to see TJ take 15ish shots at least once every three games or so. I'm not saying that's a bad thing...I'm just saying.

Fair enough. If 41% is an off night for TJ, I think I can handle that. Hell 41% was a pretty good night for Jamaal most of the time.

MillerTime
10-14-2008, 12:40 AM
Maybe premature, but Hibbert is looking like the biggest steal of this draft.

considering that Griz did play their starters and best players, Hibbert did extremely well, preseaon or not. About him being the streal of the draft, there is signs of that, but i agree that it might be a little premature.

Man, when we drafted Hibbert, I thought it was one of the worst things Bird ever did. It turns out, that picking him at 17 was such a good call. We got a steal in Granger at 17, lets see how Hibbert pans out

Kemo
10-14-2008, 12:54 AM
Like I been telling EVERYONE, but people thought, and probably still think I am nuts , but I will say it again... HIBBERT is going to be a MONSTER ...as long as the monster is FED the ball...

I think if he plays 20 to 25 mpg his rookie year that he WILL develop into a very dominant center... Watch what I been telling you guys... and yuck it up now, because He WILL one day be an all star.. mark my words..

Tonight's game just showed the flashes of brilliance , that IS Roy Hibbert..

rexnom
10-14-2008, 01:13 AM
We need to hold off on the praise for our rookies after they each have one great game.

Pacemaker
10-14-2008, 01:53 AM
Maybe premature, but Hibbert is looking like the biggest steal of this draft.

Agreed.

Pacemaker
10-14-2008, 01:56 AM
We need to hold off on the praise for our rookies after they each have one great game.

No need to hold our emotions. Save them ? For when ? Enjoy the game !!!!!! Peace.

Mourning
10-14-2008, 01:57 AM
I had to listen to the Memphis broadcast, where they discussed the fine arts (White Snake) and criticized Bird and Co. for the Shawne trade. I swear though, that Hadadi guy is going to bring peace to the Middle East.

:lol:

Anyway, too bad we lost, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it considering our two best players from last season and an important supporting player weren't there for us. I actually got a good feeling about some of our players this game.

Roy is far surpassing of what I expected from him so far in the preseason, then again it is the preseason, but I'm liking what I'm seeing from him so far.

duke dynamite
10-14-2008, 02:24 AM
The stats tell a lot, but without watching this game I can't say much.

Hibbert is the future of this team, I can tell you that.

Kemo
10-14-2008, 02:55 AM
Hibbert is the future of this team, I can tell you that.

:iagree:

KennerLeaguer
10-14-2008, 04:39 AM
Hibbert is so poised and just oozes intelligence. He also has a lot of skills on both sides of the ball. Combine all of that with his work ethic and size and this guy should've been a top-10 pick.

This is what happens when you stick around as a senior in college (for the most part). People devalue you, start doubting you, start thinking something must be wrong if you actually (gasp!) return to school to get your degree. As a result I don't recommend anymore that any kid who is a definite first round pick and likley lottery pick (as Roy was in his junior season) return to school for his senior season. And that's sad.

KennerLeaguer
10-14-2008, 04:42 AM
We need to hold off on the praise for our rookies after they each have one great game.

Fair enough. Just as long as you give them a break when they have bad games, especially considering how Rush and Roy never got any run this summer.

MillerTime
10-14-2008, 06:55 AM
The stats tell a lot, but without watching this game I can't say much.

Hibbert is the future of this team, I can tell you that.

check this video of Roy...its from the Chicago game

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=pacers&emb=0&aq=f#q=pacers&emb=0&aq=f&so=1

Speed
10-14-2008, 07:27 AM
Great line from Roy. He's going to have some match ups that he can dominate.

Beware the start of the season the first 3 games could be rough.

As impressive as his line is for this game, what really struck me in the Chicago game was his passing. The dime to McRoberts is a pass only a very few big men in the league can make. Also, Roy plays under control. He seems to already be getting better at altering a shot vs trying to block it and getting a foul.

True test will be if he gets regular minutes, then the second test come when the league figures out his weakness and he has to adjust.

Offensively the guy already has that little hook shot and the Tim Duncan step away in the low post. Nice, even though they didn't fall in the Chicago game.

The main thing I see is he doesn't make any bonehead plays and just by his pure size he is really tough for the opposing team to deal with.

Keep working Roy!!

At this point, I'd take Roy over Harrison a hundred times over and McBob over Shawne.

You just get the feeling things are going in the right direction, no matter what the record is this season.

Lastly, Obie BETTER play Roy this year, even when Murphy comes back. It's what is best for the Pacers now and in the future.

Speed
10-14-2008, 07:29 AM
check this video of Roy...its from the Chicago game

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=pacers&emb=0&aq=f#q=pacers&emb=0&aq=f&so=1



Funny, its the Brawl, don't bother clicking it. :rolleyes:

Raskolnikov
10-14-2008, 07:42 AM
Here's the vid he meant to post:

MdjcQlkgvbU

count55
10-14-2008, 07:45 AM
check this video of Roy...its from the Chicago game

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=pacers&emb=0&aq=f#q=pacers&emb=0&aq=f&so=1


Funny, its the Brawl, don't bother clicking it. :rolleyes:

I'm going to go ahead and give the benefit of the doubt, assuming that this was a linking problem, because no one with an IQ above room temperature would think blind linking Pacer fans into brawl footage is either clever or funny.

MagicRat
10-14-2008, 08:00 AM
Here's the vid he meant to post:

MdjcQlkgvbU


Thanks for the link.....

MillerTime
10-14-2008, 08:08 AM
Funny, its the Brawl, don't bother clicking it. :rolleyes:

:confused: damn...sorry about that guys... I really didnt think it was the brawl

Doddage
10-14-2008, 08:11 AM
Memphis has so much talent and potential in their starting unit. Trading for O.J. Mayo was one of the best decisions Chris Wallace has made as GM. Oh, and that Gasol trade is looking pretty good right now. Getting back Marc seems to have been the biggest coup in that trade.

MillerTime
10-14-2008, 08:31 AM
Memphis has so much talent and potential in their starting unit. Trading for O.J. Mayo was one of the best decisions Chris Wallace has made as GM. Oh, and that Gasol trade is looking pretty good right now. Getting back Marc seems to have been the biggest coup in that trade.

I agree. Their starting 5 is going to be really good once they all learn to play with one another. Conley, Mayo, Gay, Darko and Gasol, and then have Warrick come off the bench :eek: Looks pretty nasty. They have a good young core.

count55
10-14-2008, 08:55 AM
:confused: damn...sorry about that guys... I really didnt think it was the brawl

It did seem very out of character. If my comment offended, I apologize.

Speed
10-14-2008, 08:59 AM
:confused: damn...sorry about that guys... I really didnt think it was the brawl

No problem :), just not a good way to start my morning. My fault for jumping to conclusion. Thanks for the post.

McKeyFan
10-14-2008, 09:47 AM
The stats tell a lot, but without watching this game I can't say much.

Hibbert is the future of this team, I can tell you that.

That wasn't saying much?

Kuq_e_Zi91
10-14-2008, 09:52 AM
I hope Roy gets most of the center minutes this year. Basically, you know what you're gonna get from Rasho and Foster. Starting or giving the majority of the minutes to Roy will only quicken his development into the future of this franchise.

However, if he doesn't then we can look forward to next year when Rasho expires. Chances are if they don't bring Rasho back that Roy would be the starter because you just can't expect Foster to play legit starter minutes anymore.

If given enough minutes.... Roy Hibbert will be in the running for Rookie of the Year. He might not win, with scorers like Mayo out there, but he'll certainly have one of the better seasons by a rookie. You can hold me to that.

McKeyFan
10-14-2008, 10:07 AM
At this point, I'm thinking that it will be a toss up in ten years between Hibbert and Jordan for best basketball player of all time.

idioteque
10-14-2008, 10:12 AM
That video is the first Pacers basketball I've seen all year, and let me tell you it is very refreshing to see a team of young guys who seem to have a lot of enthusiasm and are ready to play. To see a team without Shawne Williams, Stephen Jackson, Jermaine O'Neal, and the ilk is incredibly refreshing.

I really liked what I saw from Hibbert. He seems to have a very high basketball IQ for a rookie, can run the floor better than I thought he could, and already has some really nice footwork down low. He seems to be leaps and bounds ahead of other prospects from this draft like DeAndre Jordan and JaVale McGee, I'm starting to think Bird definately made the right choice from that one.

T.J. Ford is FAST. I've heard for awhile that he's the fastest guy in the NBA, but until you see it on TV you don't really realize it, this guy zips around the court like nothing I've ever seen.

I think Josh McRoberts should definately make this team. He looks like a totally different player than he did from those scouting reports posted from when he was in the D-League last year. He definately looked like he was playing to make the team, he made a couple of nice passes, moved well without the ball, and was constesting for every rebound. I like Stephen Graham, but I would rather have McRoberts than Graham at this point.

There was not much Rush in this video, but the dude appears to have a sweet stroke.

Thanks for the vid!

count55
10-14-2008, 10:47 AM
At this point, I'm thinking that it will be a toss up in ten years between Hibbert and Jordan for best basketball player of all time.

C'mon! while Jordan will be top flight, how can you question that Roy will be better than DeAndre?

Anthem
10-14-2008, 12:10 PM
I hope Roy gets most of the center minutes this year. Basically, you know what you're gonna get from Rasho and Foster. Starting or giving the majority of the minutes to Roy will only quicken his development into the future of this franchise.
What I hope is that this pushes Foster entirely out of the C rotation and into the PF rotation. I want Rasho and Hibbert to get all of the C minutes, and Foster and Murphy to get all of the PF minutes. McBob can be the third guy in both rotations. Croshere would be a great assistant coach.

I think Rasho is perfect to start for the next year, and think he should get the majority of the minutes. If Hibby can consistently get 15-20 minutes a night, that's just about perfect for his development. Bring him along at a good pace... not too fast, not too slow. He doesn't have the conditioning to get more minutes than that over the course of a full season, but next year should be different.

HC
10-14-2008, 02:17 PM
And if he made another 11, it would have been 100%.

This post can be considered nothing but trolling. No wonder you have your own mood icon named after you.

Kuq_e_Zi91
10-14-2008, 03:01 PM
What I hope is that this pushes Foster entirely out of the C rotation and into the PF rotation. I want Rasho and Hibbert to get all of the C minutes, and Foster and Murphy to get all of the PF minutes. McBob can be the third guy in both rotations. Croshere would be a great assistant coach.

I think Rasho is perfect to start for the next year, and think he should get the majority of the minutes. If Hibby can consistently get 15-20 minutes a night, that's just about perfect for his development. Bring him along at a good pace... not too fast, not too slow. He doesn't have the conditioning to get more minutes than that over the course of a full season, but next year should be different.

I agree. My DC bias played into me saying to start Roy immediately his rookie season. This scenario would be perfect, 20 min a game sounds about right. That's about how much O'Brien has played him so far, with the exception being the game he got ejected. He's produced pretty well in that role and it's probably the way to go all season.

Moving Foster to back up PF is also the way to go. Watching these games so far, Foster and Hibbert seem to work well on the floor together. Hibbert's offense/ability to block shots and Foster's rebounding/ability to draw the charge are a perfect fit. My concern would be with the starters since they're both more of jump shooters than bangers down low.

I''m really looking forward to next year.

Anthem
10-14-2008, 03:45 PM
I agree. My DC bias played into me saying to start Roy immediately his rookie season. This scenario would be perfect, 20 min a game sounds about right. That's about how much O'Brien has played him so far, with the exception being the game he got ejected. He's produced pretty well in that role and it's probably the way to go all season.
I'm expecting Hibbert to hit a rookie wall by the spring. Most rookies (especially rookie big men) do. It's too soon for him to start, and it's not like Rasho's playing poorly.

Let Rasho start and get the majority of the minutes this year, but give Hibbert a consistent role that he can build on for next year.

OakMoses
10-14-2008, 04:30 PM
What I hope is that this pushes Foster entirely out of the C rotation and into the PF rotation. I want Rasho and Hibbert to get all of the C minutes, and Foster and Murphy to get all of the PF minutes. McBob can be the third guy in both rotations. Croshere would be a great assistant coach.


I'd guess that Foster is going to be the first big off the bench at either position for most of the season. I do think, however, that JO'B will make an effort to give Hibbert consistent minutes, especially early in the season. As the season progresses, JO'B will likely tighten the rotation down to 8 main guys, just like he did last season. Rush and Hibbert will have to play themselves into that rotation. Here's my guess at it for now:

PG: Ford
SG: Dunleavy
SF: Granger
PF: Murphy
C: Nesterovic
6: Jack
7: Foster
8: Daniels

McKeyFan
10-14-2008, 05:54 PM
And if he made another 11, it would have been 100%.

I didn't quite understand this.

Wouldn't another 11 in a row make him 18 for 29?