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Doug
10-02-2008, 12:02 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/03/sports/basketball/03refs.html?ref=sports

An internal investigation conducted by the N.B.A found that no referees, besides Tim Donaghy, bet on games or provided inside information to gamblers.


Back and to the left.


Back and to the left.


Back and to the left.

Since86
10-02-2008, 12:03 PM
On an unrelated note, all of the Chinese gymnasts are 16 years old as well.

Bball
10-02-2008, 12:28 PM
"I'll guard the henhouse!" said the fox.

idioteque
10-02-2008, 12:30 PM
In other news, an internal investigation by the LA Clippers has revealed an agressive, ready to spend owner who is sure to make a real jump at LBJ in 2010.

Gyron
10-02-2008, 12:39 PM
This is a shocker I tell you. A SHOCKER!

In unrelated news, The Unibomber did an internal investagation of himself and found that he was not involved in any bombings what-so-ever....

Roaming Gnome
10-02-2008, 01:02 PM
"No, the glove doesn't fit", said Mr. Simpson.

Unclebuck
10-02-2008, 01:21 PM
Be sarcastic all you want, but it might be true. In fact it likely is

Bball
10-02-2008, 02:24 PM
Be sarcastic all you want, but it might be true. In fact it likely is

Spoil sport!

:D
-Bball

Hicks
10-02-2008, 03:51 PM
I doubt they'd admit it if there was another one. I remain undecided, but skeptical.

idioteque
10-02-2008, 03:57 PM
Be sarcastic all you want, but it might be true. In fact it likely is

Unless the investigation was done by an independent source, I am very skeptical. I think it is naive to believe any company's self-evaluation on a matter that, if uncovered, would kill them PR wise.

Unclebuck
10-02-2008, 04:00 PM
Unless the investigation was done by an independent source, I am very skeptical. I think it is naive to believe any company's self-evaluation on a matter that, if uncovered, would kill them PR wise.

And if not discovered and corrected immediately it would destroy them forever as much for the "coverup" as for anything.

No, there is great incentive for them to uncover any other refs and depose of them right away. If the NBA fires 5 refs tomorrow then that might tell us something. But I'm sure if they discovered other rewfs involved they would get rid of them.

The FBI investigated this also

Shade
10-02-2008, 04:10 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/03/sports/basketball/03refs.html?ref=sports

An internal investigation conducted by the N.B.A found that no referees, besides Tim Donaghy, bet on games or provided inside information to gamblers.


Back and to the left.


Back and to the left.


Back and to the left.

Would this be the same "internal investigation" that found Donaghy himself innocent in the first place?

grace
10-02-2008, 04:10 PM
Well, considering that for years we were told the NBA wasn't fixed and then we found out a ref was doing what refs aren't supposed to do I'll remain extremely skeptical, thank you very much.

Unclebuck
10-02-2008, 04:12 PM
Would this be the same "internal investigation" that found Donaghy himself innocent in the first place?

two points

1) no this was a different investigation - I believe

2) it has been a little while since I really though about all this - but I don't recall an internal investigation finding Donaghy innocent

Since86
10-02-2008, 04:14 PM
Be sarcastic all you want, but it might be true. In fact it likely is


I present to you Exhibit A.


Well, considering that for years we were told the NBA wasn't fixed and then we found out a ref was doing what refs aren't supposed to do I'll remain extremely skeptical, thank you very much.

Shade
10-02-2008, 04:15 PM
two points

1) no this was a different investigation - I believe

2) it has been a little while since I really though about all this - but I don't recall an internal investigation finding Donaghy innocent

The NBA supposedly did an "internal investigation" on Donaghy a few years back due to suspicion, but ultimately turned up nothing on him.

Unclebuck
10-02-2008, 04:15 PM
Well, considering that for years we were told the NBA wasn't fixed and then we found out a ref was doing what refs aren't supposed to do I'll remain extremely skeptical, thank you very much.

Why, oh why am I doing this. We were told that the refs were not fixing games in regards to Stern telling them to help certain teams. Or that refs were fixing games because they didn't need to be told, they already knew what teams to favor.

I don't recall any sort of outcry from the fans or media about who refs were fixing games in order to win bets.

Unclebuck
10-02-2008, 04:18 PM
The NBA supposedly did an "internal investigation" on Donaghy a few years back due to suspicion, but ultimately turned up nothing on him.

I honestly forget, but was it a full scale investigation into Donaghy - I mean was it more than just a normal oversight that the NBA is constantly doing trying to make sure the refs are on the up and up.

Shade
10-02-2008, 04:21 PM
I honestly forget, but was it a full scale investigation into Donaghy - I mean was it more than just a normal oversight that the NBA is constantly trying to make sure the refs are on the up and up.

I don't know how "full scale" it was. I just know the same "internal investigation" phrase was used then, like it is now.

But I imagine it was pretty involved, since they had suspected him of shenanigans. If they had those concerns and still half-assed the investigation, then they deserve all the negative publicity they get for it coming out.

Unclebuck
10-02-2008, 04:26 PM
I don't know how "full scale" it was. I just know the same "internal investigation" phrase was used then, like it is now.

But I imagine it was pretty involved, since they had suspected him of shenanigans. If they had those concerns and still half-assed the investigation, then they deserve all the negative publicity they get for it coming out.

Weren't the shenanigans about him going to casinos or horse tracks. I don't believe they had any info regarding him betting on NBA games or giving inside info to known gamblers

Shade
10-02-2008, 04:27 PM
Weren't the shenanigans about him going to casinos or horse tracks. I don't believe they had any info regarding him betting on NBA games or giving inside info to known gamblers

I think they suspected something more significant. But that's my personal opinion.

Since86
10-02-2008, 04:29 PM
Weren't the shenanigans about him going to casinos or horse tracks. I don't believe they had any info regarding him betting on NBA games or giving inside info to known gamblers

If you're investigating issues about gambling in casinos wouldn't a logical reaction to investigate sports betting as well?

Also, refs are allowed to gamble in casinos. That came out with the Donaghy stuff, due to it being reported other refs do visit them and it's perfectly within the rules for them to do so.

Third, if you're investigating someone, you investigate them. You don't put parameters around your search and say, no we're not going to look at his phone records and see if he calls the same people at the same time before and after he works games.

Los Angeles
10-02-2008, 06:46 PM
How conveeenient!

http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/61fps/church_lady.jpg

Naptown_Seth
10-04-2008, 05:45 PM
I doubt they'd admit it if there was another one. I remain undecided, but skeptical.
Exactly. The sarcasm is due to the source, not the "fact".

Get someone you can trust, someone neutral, and ensure that they wouldn't hide info in order to help the NBA, and then I'll listen more.

But meanwhile MY PERSONAL INVESTIGATION uncovered that Stern directly ordered all the refs to fix every single game and that Stern bet on them himself. He also financed some sub-prime mortgages and then sold them off hidden inside packages of mostly good mortgages.

So now we have two reports that contradict each other. Let's get a tie-breaker out.
:angel:

Naptown_Seth
10-04-2008, 05:50 PM
I honestly forget, but was it a full scale investigation into Donaghy - I mean was it more than just a normal oversight that the NBA is constantly doing trying to make sure the refs are on the up and up.
Someone said he was involved in some gambling that was against the rules, whatever those limits were (betting on sports/NBA is the only thing off limits I think).

The problem is that in the course of looking into that they failed to catch the fact that he WAS BETTING ON THE NBA. So gee, some investigation.

There's a fire, fireman show up and somehow overlook the massive black smoke coming out of the house and say "false alarm" and leave. Then 10 minutes later a cop drives by while looking for an arsonist on the loose, sees this house clearly on fire, and calls the fire department back in.

Kinda hard to trust their judgment if they don't even catch stuff they are directly pointed toward.