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Unclebuck
06-17-2004, 04:41 PM
Looking at the whole list of those available, I think the Pacers will lose one a player and I think it will either be Primoz Brezec or James Jones.

Who would you rather lose.

I would rather lose PB. I know many of you are in "love with the guy" but I just don't see it. Yes he is a big guy with some skills, and is a decent athlete, but I don't see him ever becoming more than a spot player. And yes I watched 6 of the 8 preseason games this past season.

James Jones on the other hand, I think is starter material in the not too distant future. He, as Bird said, is the best shooter on the team, and he is a surprisingly good shot blocker. Depending on who is traded this offseason I could see JJ being a valuable reserve off the bench next season

Suaveness
06-17-2004, 04:45 PM
Primoz. I just didn't see what was great about him.

James though has some skills. Real good skills.

Isn't james Jones a FA? I thought he signed a 1 year contract only last year?

ChicagoJ
06-17-2004, 04:50 PM
Looking at the whole list of those available, I think the Pacers will lose one a player and I think it will either be Primoz Brezec or James Jones.

Who would you rather lose.

I would rather lose PB. I know many of you are in "love with the guy" but I just don't see it. Yes he is a big guy with some skills, and is a decent athlete, but I don't see him ever becoming more than a spot player. And yes I watched 6 of the 8 preseason games this past season.

James Jones on the other hand, I think is starter material in the not too distant future. He, as Bird said, is the best shooter on the team, and he is a surprisingly good shot blocker. Depending on who is traded this offseason I could see JJ being a valuable reserve off the bench next season

That's fine. I just think he showed more last year in the preseason than Pollard (and for most of the preseason, Foster.) Granted, his best preseason game may have been the game up here that was witnessed by less than 500 people, myself included (something about a baseball game and a guy named Bartman.) :rolleyes:

James Jones is completely disposable, however. We've got a late-second-round pick again this year, don't we?

Kegboy
06-17-2004, 04:55 PM
I'm with Jay, and completely opposite of UB on this. I see loads of potential in PB, not to mention a kick-*** nickname. I look at JJ, and I think "Norm Richardson with a jump shot." Not that they're anywhere near the same player, but both are utterly disposable.

Swingmen are a dime a dozen. A big man with skills and desire is worth his weight in gold.

Peck
06-17-2004, 04:58 PM
Put me firmly on the side of those wishing to lose Brezac over Jones.

If all or any of the trades go down that we have been hearing about then James might be able to pick up spot min. next season.

Brezac is just another 7' + Euro who is taking up roster space in the NBA. I know some of you don't want to hear that, but even if he is picked by the Bobcats the guy won't start at center nor will he probably even get many backup min.

Here, as of now, he is in the following depth. 1. Foster 2. O'Neal 3. Croshere (yes, Croshere does play some backup center) 4. Pollard & my gut reaction is that as of now if any of the above couldn't go I bet you would see a lineup with Bender or Artest at center before Brezac.

able
06-17-2004, 05:00 PM
l'histoire ce repete

smits anyone ?

Peck
06-17-2004, 05:04 PM
Brezac is nothing like Smits.

Smits had an absolute deadeye shot from 15'.
I've seen P.B. overshoot a layup before.

Primoz is actually a better rebounder than Rik was, but that is about it.

But guess what? I didn't think much of Smits either.

Will Galen
06-17-2004, 05:06 PM
I'm with Jay, and completely opposite of UB on this. I see loads of potential in PB, not to mention a kick-*** nickname. I look at JJ, and I think "Norm Richardson with a jump shot." Not that they're anywhere near the same player, but both are utterly disposable.

Swingmen are a dime a dozen. A big man with skills and desire is worth his weight in gold.

I'm with Jay and Keg!

TheSauceMaster
06-17-2004, 05:06 PM
Primoz Brezec

Unclebuck
06-17-2004, 05:07 PM
Brezac is nothing like Smits.

Smits had an absolute deadeye shot from 15'.
I've seen P.B. overshoot a layup before.

Primoz is actually a better rebounder than Rik was, but that is about it.

But guess what? I didn't think much of Smits either.


Peck, I am with you on this.

Suaveness
06-17-2004, 05:09 PM
Brezac is just another 7' + Euro who is taking up roster space in the NBA.


That is absolutely true.

And from what I have seen of Jones, the man can really shoot the ball.

Slick Pinkham
06-17-2004, 05:14 PM
I can't say I'd miss either 12th man, but JJ at least is more of an unknown. If PB could play, we'd know by now. JJ was maybe paying rookie dues. Or maybe he can't play either.

MagicRat
06-17-2004, 05:14 PM
I would rather lose Primoz, also.

He just doesn't strike me as much of an athlete. I've seen him play plenty of times in person and he's never done it for me. He has a pear shaped body, with no upper body and a large lower body. I know Jay will say that's all the better to block out with, but his legs just look "heavy" when he's going up and down the court. Compared with Foster (and even Pollard, who has a lot of bounce in his step), he really stands out as a plodder.

I was generally more impressed with JJ when he got a chance to play. I'm partial to shooters, though.......


BTW, I don't know if the title was some sort of subliminal thing, but I thought you wanted to get rid of bulletproof....... :P

Kegboy
06-17-2004, 05:17 PM
Once again, I wish I could go back and bump the preseason threads. Specifically, for when everyone wanted Carl English instead of JJ.

As for shooting:

PB - .462 FG%
JJ - .222 FG% (2-9, with 1-4 from 3)

But hey, he did a great job hitting those two free throws against Miami (his only FT's on the season, btw.)

Unclebuck
06-17-2004, 05:17 PM
Swingmen are a dime a dozen. A big man with skills and desire is worth his weight in gold.

Shooters are not a dime a dozen, they are nowadays rare and very valuable.

__________________________________________________ ___
Comments by Kegboy, As for shooting:

PB - .462 FG%
JJ - .222 FG% (2-9, with 1-4 from 3)

But hey, he did a great job hitting those two free throws against Miami (his only FT's on the season, btw.)
_________________



Do you think those are fair numbers

indygeezer
06-17-2004, 05:19 PM
Put me on the side of retaining Primoz.


(do we get to bat first?)

TheSauceMaster
06-17-2004, 05:39 PM
Brezac is nothing like Smits.

Smits had an absolute deadeye shot from 15'.
I've seen P.B. overshoot a layup before.

Primoz is actually a better rebounder than Rik was, but that is about it.

But guess what? I didn't think much of Smits either.

Definately agree with that :cool:

Snickers
06-17-2004, 05:41 PM
I'm liking the love for my man JJ. :D

But I remember a couple seasons back when Primoz started for a decent stretch of games, before we traded for that guy. He was very solid, and if I remember correctly, he likely would have remained a starter/1st backup had he not been injured.

I'm torn. I love JJ [he's my "darling," much like Artest is to UB], but I think PB could be a servicable backup at center, which is something we could use.

Hrmm.... I'll keep JJ. I just like the guy too much.

ChicagoJ
06-17-2004, 05:43 PM
-snip-

I know Jay will say that's all the better to block out with, but his legs just look "heavy" when he's going up and down the court. Compared with Foster (and even Pollard, who has a lot of bounce in his step), he really stands out as a plodder.

I was generally more impressed with JJ when he got a chance to play. I'm partial to shooters, though.......


BTW, I don't know if the title was some sort of subliminal thing, but I thought you wanted to get rid of bulletproof....... :P

Ironic that you'd say that in your 'first serious basketball post'... the one thing I've been critical of PB in his limited minutes is that he doesn't seem to want to box out... He should be better at rebounding than he is.

As a Chuck Person fan, I love the idea that JJ could turn into a sweet-shooting SF with serious range. But I keep asking myself why was Chuck Person picked at #4 when JJ went at #49? There's got to be something missing.

Of course, I'm just from the school of thought that a big man with potential is more valuable than a perimeter player with potential. I don't dislike JJ as much as I fear that Brezec, in another year or two (remember, he's still very, very young) could be a legit rotation player for somebody else.

indygeezer
06-17-2004, 05:45 PM
Well I suppose at #29 we could always go for Peter Ramos or Ha Jeung Jin.

Hoop
06-17-2004, 06:02 PM
I always get to every home game early and JJ is always out there shooting, so I've watched him alot. He really has a nice looking mid range and 3pt shot, something we could certainly us.

Primoz had a nice preseason and does seem to be a more of a banger than most of the Euro big men. I hope we get to keep both guys, maybe one will turn out to be a player.

Bball
06-17-2004, 06:02 PM
Do we prefer to keep the soft Euro center or a small forward? Can you have too many small forwards? :confused:

I heard JJ was absolutely deadeye and I'm not sure I ever saw him hit a shot in the few minutes he got.

Wasn't Primoz the guy who wasn't even starting for he Euro club when we drafted him?

I'm not sure I care if they take either player. Ideally I'd like to say we have time invested in Primoz and he's a big body that we could use.... but then there has to be a reason he hasn't gotten further down the bench by now.

I'd also like to say we could use a young deadeye gunner off the bench if for nothing else a shooting specialist in some spot minutes. He had some minutes and I didn't see much to prove he was a deadeye shooter.

So.... I guess the best I can offer is a shrug. It is 6 one way and a half dozen the other.

-Bball

Ragnar
06-17-2004, 06:04 PM
I know I am going to be branded a heretic for this but I would rather keep JJ. Yes 6'9" small forewards are a dime a dozen but JJ is a good defender. I was amazed in the Miami game durring the regular season at how quick he was and at his wingspan. He had good foot speed and was able to keep players in front of him and his hands were pretty quick too.

Now there are several guys in the NBA like that but they make a lot more than JJ. Plus if his shot is anything like they say it is I would like to keep him. Sort of a taller less crazy better shooting but not quite as good of a defender Ron.

Snickers
06-17-2004, 06:04 PM
I always get to every home game early and JJ is always out there shooting, so I've watched him alot. He really has a nice looking mid range and 3pt shot, something we could certainly us.

Primoz had a nice preseason and does seem to be a more of a banger than most of the Euro big men. I hope we get to keep both guys, maybe one will turn out to be a player.

I think we can make it through without losing either. Maybe that's just me thinking wishfully, maybe it's the whiskey talking, or maybe it's actually got a chance of happening.

:whoknows:

Note: I'm not actually drinking whiskey.

MagicRat
06-17-2004, 06:04 PM
Ironic that you'd say that in your 'first serious basketball post'....

Man, I knew I just shoulda typed 'Primoz reminds me of an old washer woman' and hit submit........ :P

beast23
06-17-2004, 06:09 PM
When I saw JJ play early on, he definitely looked "less lost" on the court than Bender did last year. He gave a fine effort at both ends of the floor. And this from a rookie. That and his reputation for hitting 28 foot jump shots at least wants me to take a longer look at him.

Primoz on the other hand has been on the roster for 3 years now. And still can't even get bench time, let alone court time.

As stated above:
Foster, JO, Croshere, Pollard, Artest, Bender, waterboy, Walsh, Peck, UncleBuck.

Heck, that's 10 warm bodies that Carlisle would put on the floor before Primoz. I'd give the Bobcats our 2nd round pick just to select him.

Kegboy
06-17-2004, 06:09 PM
Since both guys only got scrub time during the year, I went back and figured out their stats during the preseason. They both got some nice PT, (a number of backcourt injuries helped James in this regard.) Use the below however you like.

PB
5.4 points, 5.1 rebounds in 17.6 minutes
2 assists, 4 steals, 4 blocks total over 8 games
54% FG (14-26)
52% FT (15-29) :puke:

JJ
6.3 points, 2.3 rebounds in 16.3 minutes
7 assists, 1 steal, 3 blocks total over 8 games
35% FG (15-43) :unimpressed:
33% 3P (6-18)
70% FT (14-20)

Snickers
06-17-2004, 06:10 PM
.... Sort of a taller less crazy better shooting but not quite as good of a defender Ron.

Do you write for nbadraft.net? :P

James is an outstanding shooter. Chuck Person, Ray Allen caliber, so long as he maintains that as his primary strength. He's also a very good defender; long arms, good feet, good head. Best of all, he knows how to play. Good bball IQ.

Once he gets fully acclimated the the NBA game, he'll be able to be a very solid boost off the bench.

Suaveness
06-17-2004, 06:55 PM
Someone tell me... isnt JJ a FA? According to hoopshype, he signed a 1 year contract only...

TheSauceMaster
06-17-2004, 07:22 PM
Bill Dean :Now Primoz you know we got to get you into shape this next year.

Primoz : What do you mean Bill ? I could run circles around Darko All Day.

Bill Dean: We need to give you greasy lightning speed , Chase this chicken around and try to catch it.

Primoz: Why would I want to chase a Chicken around for Bill ?

Bill Dean : Cause Kid we are gonna make you eat lightning and crap thunder this next year. I can hear the fans in Conseco now Chanting ...Darko Who ? When you hit the floor this next year.

beast23
06-17-2004, 07:24 PM
Someone tell me... isnt JJ a FA? According to hoopshype, he signed a 1 year contract only...That's the impression that I'm under. Although the list of candidates that seems to have leeked out of Charlotte seems to say otherwise. So, who knows?

TheSauceMaster
06-17-2004, 07:26 PM
according to my super secret resources ..hoopshype is wrong ;)

James Jones ........... Date signed 8/21/03 number of years 2 Salary minimum t-opt '05

Suaveness
06-17-2004, 07:31 PM
according to my super secret resources ..hoopshype is wrong ;)

James Jones ........... Date signed 8/21/03 number of years 2 Salary minimum t-opt '05

right...hoopshype has updated and said that it is a team option. so shouldn't we have cut him then signed him again. like we should have withAJ.

Cactus Jax
06-17-2004, 08:14 PM
I think I'm just about the leader of the James Jones brigade so you know my answer on this.

Once again, the guy reminds me of a raw Scottie Pippen with a jump shot, but not quite the defensive tools yet, but I think he can be a great defender.

PB still looks like a stiff to me who can rebound a little. Dump him and the Pacers could either get the 7'4'' Chinesse guy or the other big foriegn guy the Pacers seemed linked to as well, as they're pretty much the same type if not a more promising project than PB.

sixthman
06-17-2004, 09:11 PM
Draft Primoz!

It's time for the boo-birds to move on to someone else.

Isiah Thomas will be back coaching the Pacers before James Jones is a major contributor for the Pacers.

Unclebuck
06-17-2004, 09:35 PM
I know I am going to be branded a heretic for this but I would rather keep JJ. Yes 6'9" small forewards are a dime a dozen but JJ is a good defender. I was amazed in the Miami game durring the regular season at how quick he was and at his wingspan. He had good foot speed and was able to keep players in front of him and his hands were pretty quick too.

Now there are several guys in the NBA like that but they make a lot more than JJ. Plus if his shot is anything like they say it is I would like to keep him. Sort of a taller less crazy better shooting but not quite as good of a defender Ron.


Agree 100%




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PB plays shorter than he is, he does not use his size well

Hicks
06-17-2004, 09:36 PM
I think J.Jones can be a good player for us sooner or later, so with that in mind I hope PB is the one to go.

ABADays
06-17-2004, 09:41 PM
PB

maybe my shortest post ever

Anthem
06-17-2004, 10:53 PM
Ehh, this is a trick question. I like them both A LOT, and think they'll both be quality players.

If the question was "who will be the better player" I'd say JJ. But the question is "who should we keep" and the answer is PB. Even if he never does better than solid backup center, that's a worthwhile keep. It's easier to find a solid swingman than a good backup center.

We only have one good backup center right now, and he's starting.

Will Galen
06-18-2004, 06:26 AM
Is someone keeping score?

indygeezer
06-18-2004, 06:34 AM
Peanut Butter leads 18 -0
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.oh alright I went thru and tried to decipher a few conflicting ones and it appears to be 11-10 in favor of Promoz Brezec....give him his dozen roses.

Will Galen
06-18-2004, 07:45 AM
Peanut Butter leads 18 -0
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.oh alright I went thru and tried to decipher a few conflicting ones and it appears to be 11-10 in favor of Promoz Brezec....give him his dozen roses.

I missed the post where it was decided to call Promoz, Peanut Butter. I know it was a while back and I figured it out a while back, but if he is Peanut Butter, I think JJ should be Double Jelly. That way we can say Peanut Butter and Double Jelly when we refer to them.

naptownmenace
06-18-2004, 08:31 AM
I actually like both players but I think that JJ is the one the Pacers should keep.

Spend a million on another backup center with experience.

able
06-18-2004, 09:12 AM
I actually like both players but I think that JJ is the one the Pacers should keep.

Spend a million on another backup center with experience.

we have one from the bottom of the barrel, costs 5 million a year and plays almost less then PB

keep PB!

indygeezer
06-18-2004, 09:26 AM
Peanut Butter leads 18 -0
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.oh alright I went thru and tried to decipher a few conflicting ones and it appears to be 11-10 in favor of Promoz Brezec....give him his dozen roses.

I missed the post where it was decided to call Promoz, Peanut Butter. I know it was a while back and I figured it out a while back, but if he is Peanut Butter, I think JJ should be Double Jelly. That way we can say Peanut Butter and Double Jelly when we refer to them.




and we could call the dunk champ..."Jam". So you have your choice of Peanut Butter with Double Jelly or Jam.



(Stephanie could be HONEY)

Suaveness
06-18-2004, 09:32 AM
(Stephanie could be HONEY)

I know I want some honey... :drool:

Grant
06-18-2004, 09:42 AM
Expansion draft: who would you rather lose, BP or JJ

Tough call. Bulletproof has always been a pretty good poster, and he might spill all our secrets to the Bobcats forum.

On the other hand I've heard that his jumpshot and defense aren't that good, and his biggest contributions are to the forum. But he did just win that award. Hmmmm...

James Jones may be able to shoot the lights out, but I don't think he posts here.

I guess I hope we keep Bulletproof, but if JJ starts posting here, and can still play basketball I will probably change my mind.

ChicagoJ
06-18-2004, 09:47 AM
Peanut Butter leads 18 -0
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.oh alright I went thru and tried to decipher a few conflicting ones and it appears to be 11-10 in favor of Promoz Brezec....give him his dozen roses.

I missed the post where it was decided to call Promoz, Peanut Butter. I know it was a while back and I figured it out a while back, but if he is Peanut Butter, I think JJ should be Double Jelly. That way we can say Peanut Butter and Double Jelly when we refer to them.

It was during my review of the Pacers/ Bulls preseason game at the UC. Unfortunately, that thread was lost in "the fire."

MSA2CF
06-18-2004, 02:07 PM
Primoz: :love:
James: :neutral:

Snickers
06-18-2004, 03:14 PM
PacerFanInAZ and I are driving the James Jones bandwagon. All are welcome to join.... except geezer. ;)

Hicks
06-18-2004, 03:16 PM
PacerFanInAZ and I are driving the James Jones bandwagon. All are welcome to join.... except geezer. ;)

You got me on the JJ bandwagon back when we drafted him and you told me about him.

Snickers
06-18-2004, 03:21 PM
PacerFanInAZ and I are driving the James Jones bandwagon. All are welcome to join.... except geezer. ;)

You got me on the JJ bandwagon back when we drafted him and you told me about him.

I remember that. Best decision you ever made. :D

I'm actually a little surprised so many people like JJ. Aside from Hicks and the couple of people I've told about him, I thought I was the only one. :neutral:

He has a great singing voice too, if that helps anybody make the jump. :dance:

Kegboy
06-18-2004, 05:40 PM
Okay, might as well make this official:

Jumpin' Jelly Jammers :rolleyes:
Unclebuck
Suaveness
Peck
TheSauceMaster
pacertom
MagicRat
Snickers
Ragnar
beast23
PacerFanInAZ
sixthman
Hicks
ABADays
naptownmenance

Peanut Butter Cookies
Jay@Section222
Kegboy
able
Will Galen
indygeezer
Anthem
MSA2CF

Won't play :(:
Hoop
Bball
Grant

Since we're outnumbered two-to-one, and Geezer brought it up, we get to bat first. ;)

Also, since the board overwelmingly thinks JJ is the better player, I'm gonna mail this thread to Bernie Bickerstaff right now. :devil:

PacerBlade
06-18-2004, 06:05 PM
We need PB much more than JJ...

ChicagoJ
06-18-2004, 06:08 PM
Also, since the board overwelmingly thinks JJ is the better player, I'm gonna mail this thread to Bernie Bickerstaff right now. :devil:

Now that's the best idea I've heard all day. :D

Snickers
06-18-2004, 06:31 PM
Oh come on, "JJ Jumpers?" You guys get a cool nickname, and we get "Jumpers?" What are we, people who go around starting people's cars for them when their batteries die? Sheesh.

:shakehead:

Suaveness
06-18-2004, 07:30 PM
Here is its:

Jumpin' Jelly Jammers!

CHANGE THE NAME TO THIS.


JUMPIN' JELLY JAMMERS!

MSA2CF
06-18-2004, 07:42 PM
How about the "Judgin' Jehoshaphats"?

hoopsforlife
06-18-2004, 07:47 PM
Primos is the one to lose.

I think JJ has some real potential when his nerves settle down. He was just jumpy at the games I saw him play in.

Kegboy
06-18-2004, 08:25 PM
Fine, you little wussy-poo's.

It's pretty sad, though, that you can't come up with a better nickname for JJ then copying of PB. :shakehead:

Suaveness
06-18-2004, 08:28 PM
Fine, you little wussy-poo's.

It's pretty sad, though, that you can't come up with a better nickname for JJ then copying of PB. :shakehead:

OH WHATEVER. STUPID PB LOVER. WHY DON"T U GO MARRY HIM.


And take that silly rolleyes off that name. Its' better than "Peanut Butter" At least we aren't "nuts"

:P

Kegboy
06-18-2004, 08:40 PM
It's my post, I'll say whatever the hell I want!

:finger:

You know, this is what's so fun about the offseason on here. I never thought we'd get into such a heated debate about the 14th and 15th guys on the team. :D

Cactus Jax
06-18-2004, 09:17 PM
How about Jelly and Jam or something like that??? :neutral: :zip:

Suaveness
06-18-2004, 09:41 PM
Okay, might as well make this official:

Jumpin' Jelly Jammers :devil: :D :cool: :dance: :idea: :pepper: :dance2: :applaud: :cheers: :bowdown: :champagne: :champions: :darkness: :drool: :drooling: :eyebrow: :flirt: :fro: :gopacers: :highfive: :hug: :jump: :love: :nod: :pimp: :rockon: :rockon2: :signit: :thankyou: :thumbsup: :thumbup: :usa: :wave: :worship: :pacers: :cool2: :smart: :carrot: :mango: :pineapple: :cucumber: :rock: :ninja: :king: :apple: :orange: :trophy: :boomer: :happydance: :yes: :evillaugh: :chuckle: :evillook: :stretch:


Unclebuck
Suaveness
Peck
TheSauceMaster
pacertom
MagicRat
Snickers
Ragnar
beast23
PacerFanInAZ
sixthman
Hicks
ABADays
naptownmenance

Peanut Butter Cookies :( :confused: :mad: :P :blush: :cry: :rolleyes: :unimpressed: :whoknows: :alcohol: :arrgh: :banghead: :bond: :box: :boxer: :censor: :disturbed: :crazy: :dead: :finger: :giveup: :hmm: :jawdrop: :omg: :hippie: :pissed: :pity: :puke: :punch: :death: :rotflmao: :sadbanana: :shakehead: :sleep: :soapbox: :soundoff: :spitout: :thumbsdown: :uhoh: :whip: :zip: :lakers: :annoyed: :disappointed: :dunce: :smartass: :shout: :snobby: :loser: :sad: :scream: :lolchair: :quit*****ing: :borg: :shrug: :wtf: :sarcasm: :bored: :banned: :fatbanana: :lol2: :yikes: :beat: :peak: :shudder: :tongue: :dancingbavetta: :irked:
Jay@Section222
Kegboy
able
Will Galen
indygeezer
Anthem
MSA2CF

Won't play :(:
Hoop
Bball
Grant



I WIN. :devil:

ChicagoJ
06-18-2004, 10:01 PM
:rolleyes:

Kegboy
06-18-2004, 10:32 PM
:unimpressed:

Suave, you have entirely too much time on your hands. Go read about the Lakers Black Friday or something.

Suaveness
06-18-2004, 10:35 PM
Naturally, only people of the PeaNUT BUTTer Weirdos would respond by :rolleyes: and :unimpressed:


Can't face the facts, can you? :devil:

Snickers
06-18-2004, 10:47 PM
Since James is such a deadeye shooter, his nickname can be "Magnum" Jones.

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/3888/magnumjones1.gif

:D

Hicks
06-18-2004, 10:48 PM
:laugh:

Suaveness
06-18-2004, 10:52 PM
:rotflmao:

MagicRat
06-19-2004, 01:00 AM
"Magnum" isn't really doing it for me.....You guys can run with it, though......

http://home.comcast.net/~magic_rat/magnumjj.jpg

Snickers
06-19-2004, 01:01 AM
"Magnum" isn't really doing it for me.....You guys can run with it, though......

http://home.comcast.net/~magic_rat/magnumjj.jpg

Touche. :D

kerosene
06-19-2004, 01:35 AM
You realize that Ron has the Magnum PI mustache these days right?

grace
06-19-2004, 08:15 AM
http://home.comcast.net/~magic_rat/magnumjj.jpg[/img]

:lolchair: :rotflmao:

Suaveness
06-19-2004, 11:56 AM
:laugh:

Kegboy
04-15-2006, 09:15 PM
:bump:

Interesting read, including MagicRat's first basketball-related post.

Roaming Gnome
04-15-2006, 10:24 PM
Hindsight is always 20/20...

Bball
04-16-2006, 04:33 AM
Dayum... it's always interesting (and scary) when these things get bumped and I have to re-read my words and see if a crow sandwich is in order.

Once again, I skate by almost unscathed... :D

-Bball

larry
04-16-2006, 05:23 AM
well we could use both. jj would of knocked down at LEAST 2 more threes & Brezic always serves the Pacers like a postal worker. It's spilled milk now. The disturbing thing is how well this team took the loss. Examine the post game qoutes. I have that tiny glimmer of hope, but I have to be fair & tell myself this is the Bobcats. Bottom line is this team is as inconsistant as the shooting. They lack the intanglebls!

larry
04-16-2006, 05:34 AM
And this thread proves how great PD's smilies are! You can really take a load off using them. Props 2 Hicks from the sticks.

Unclebuck
04-16-2006, 08:07 AM
I'm not really heartbroken about losing either one

Natston
04-16-2006, 10:11 AM
We literally managed to get one second round pick for both of them, I'm sure DW will be laughing in the end... :sarcasm: