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TheSauceMaster
06-17-2004, 04:07 PM
Link Here (http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball/ny-splakers173853444jun17,0,3044723.story?coll=ny-basketball-headlines)

Rasheed wants to be Knick. Pistons forward Rasheed Wallace, who becomes an unrestricted free agent July 1, still wants to play for the Knicks, his agent, Bill Strickland, said yesterday. "That's where he wanted to go from Portland and we tried like hell to get it done," said Strickland, adding it's too early to speculate on whether Wallace will sign with Detroit.

"Don't get me wrong, I think they're a great group of guys that I'm playing with," Wallace said. "But my family, they are going to have the last decision."

kerosene
06-17-2004, 04:12 PM
That could be very true but I wouldn't expect Rasheed to come out and say "I'm going to stay with Detroit no matter what" at this point.

TheSauceMaster
06-17-2004, 04:17 PM
Link Here (http://www.nypost.com/sports/knicks/17453.htm)

KNICKS STILL ALIVE IN 'SHEED CHASE

June 17, 2004 -- Even while basking in the glow of an NBA championship, even as he became prince of Motown, the final piece to Detroit's championship puzzle, Rasheed Wallace maintained that his wife and kids will make the final decision on whether he will re-sign with the Pistons as a free agent.

So the Knicks still are in the game, although ever so slightly. As the celebration carried on inside the Pistons' locker room Tuesday night, Bill Strickland, Wallace's agent, was asked by The Post if Wallace still will consider the Knicks come July 1, The agent said, "Perhaps, given how hard he tried to get there before he got here."

The 6-11 Wallace wouldn't commit to Detroit because it's not his call.

"I have to talk it over with my wife, talk it over with my kids and get their input," Wallace said. "If it's a situation or something here they don't like or they see shaky, I have to take all of that into consideration. I think my family has the biggest say of it all. But don't get me wrong. I think they are a great group of guys that I'm playing with, but my family, they are going to have that last decision."

The Knicks were once his No. 1 choice, but Isiah Thomas did not have the pawns after the Stephon Marbury blockbuster to entice Portland. And Isiah surely did not have the expiring contracts to attract Atlanta at February's trading deadline. In all, the Knicks may have a better chance at Piston spare big man, Mehmet Okur.

Strickland hasn't spoken to Wallace about free agency since the playoffs began, not wanting to distract him.

If it were up to Wallace, he'd stay. But he wants his wife, Fatima, to like the area. She and their four kids, including an infant daughter, have yet to live in Detroit. They stayed back in Portland.

"She didn't have time and the kids were in school," Strickland said. "She had a daughter in March."

The Knicks can only offer him the $5 million mid-level exception for two years and then re-sign him to a deal starting at $9M. Or more conventionally, they can offer him a maximum length six-year mid-level deal, totaling $37.5M. The Knicks can only hope Detroit tries to squeeze him on number of years. As far as a sign-and-trade, Pistons prez Joe Dumars is not champing at the bit for Kurt Thomas.

With champagne misting in the steambath of a locker room, Dumars sounded as if Wallace were signed, sealed and delivered.

"We're going to be a year wiser, we're going to be better," Dumars said.

Asked if that means Wallace will return, Dumars said, "I think this is a pretty good selling point. I don't have any beautiful speeches to give him like, 'Hey, the weather's great here, we got some nice sights.' He's won a world championship. What can you sell a guy more on than that, someone who's been a big part of it."

Suaveness
06-17-2004, 04:21 PM
Mr. Wallace, for the sake of all Pacer fans, please go to New York. We will be forever indebted. :devil:

fwpacerfan
06-17-2004, 04:28 PM
I've come to the conclusion that you find out what a player is truly about when they become free agents. If winning is as important to Wallace as he says it is then he will re-sign w/Detroit. Of course usually when a player leaves it is for more money which wouldn't be the case here so maybe Rasheed's family wants to live in NY and family really is his priority.

Will Galen
06-17-2004, 04:30 PM
Newsday.com is just putting a New York spin on that article. I read the original quote his agent made and all he said was that New York is where Rasheed WANTED to go. He never said he still wants to be a Knick. He also said, "My family, they are going to have the last decision."

My question is what is he going to do, put it up for a vote?

DisplacedKnick
06-17-2004, 04:34 PM
Mr. CTC isn't coming to NY. I don't see him going for the MLE when the Pistons will probably give him twice that.

Can't see Mrs Rasheed telling her husband, "Go make less money" either.

Guess I could be wrong but I'd be shocked.

ABADays
06-17-2004, 09:45 PM
WOW - what great timing for the Piston fans.

PistonsDynasty
06-17-2004, 09:50 PM
I hope Sheed does go to New York. I don't want him on this team. He's very average at best and has alot of off nights. Quite frankly the Pistons can do alot better in my book. My worst fear is Joe D. giving this fool a 5 or 6 year contract.

Suaveness
06-17-2004, 10:06 PM
I hope Sheed does go to New York. I don't want him on this team. He's very average at best and has alot of off nights. Quite frankly the Pistons can do alot better in my book. My worst fear is Joe D. giving this fool a 5 or 6 year contract.

Seriously? You do realize he is why you won this year....

Before that, you wouldn't have beaten us or NJ...

SpADeD
06-17-2004, 10:08 PM
I hope Sheed does go to New York. I don't want him on this team. He's very average at best and has alot of off nights. Quite frankly the Pistons can do alot better in my book. My worst fear is Joe D. giving this fool a 5 or 6 year contract.

Seriously? You do realize he is why you won this year....

Before that, you wouldn't have beaten us or NJ...

That is true. But Joe D. still shouldn't give that fool a 5 or 6 year contract.

Kstat
06-17-2004, 10:16 PM
Good lord, what a commotion about nothing......

The only people that expect SHeed to be in NY next season are the NY newspapers, and they are MASTER spin-artists.

Until Sheed makes a statement committing one way or anyother, frankly Im not even paying attention to NY's wet dreams.

That said, if he wants to go, he has my blessing. He helped us get a ring, I'm in his debt as a fan. Not to mention we'll likely be $16-20 million udner the cap if he leaves.

Suaveness
06-17-2004, 10:17 PM
Good lord, what a commotion about nothing......

The only people that expect SHeed to be in NY next season are the NY newspapers, and they are MASTER spin-artists.

Until Sheed makes a statement committing one way or anyother, frankly Im not even paying attention to NY's wet dreams.


:laugh:

TheSauceMaster
06-17-2004, 10:56 PM
Thanks Kstat you helping me semi prove a point , that all the garbage floating around right now is media spin :)

Anthem
06-17-2004, 10:57 PM
That said, if he wants to go, he has my blessing. He helped us get a ring, I'm in his debt as a fan. Not to mention we'll likely be $16-20 million udner the cap if he leaves.

Depends on how soon Darko will be ready, doesn't it? If I'm JoeD, I'd look pretty hard at Okur and Darko. If either of them is ready to be a starter, then I might consider it for the cap room.

Unless Sheed signs for 8 mil or so.

ROCislandWarrior
06-17-2004, 11:12 PM
That said, if he wants to go, he has my blessing. He helped us get a ring, I'm in his debt as a fan. Not to mention we'll likely be $16-20 million udner the cap if he leaves.

Depends on how soon Darko will be ready, doesn't it? If I'm JoeD, I'd look pretty hard at Okur and Darko. If either of them is ready to be a starter, then I might consider it for the cap room.

Unless Sheed signs for 8 mil or so.

I hope that was a joke and you just forgot to insert the Devil face after Darko.

Darko is a project, he will not be ready for a few more years and the Pistons know that. Also, this whole situation might change if we get Tmac.

The Pistons might use Okur in a trade. I don't think they will sit back and watch us 1 up them.

Anthem
06-17-2004, 11:16 PM
I hope that was a joke and you just forgot to insert the Devil face after Darko.

Darko is a project, he will not be ready for a few more years and the Pistons know that.

Hard to say... I remember Kstat swearing up one side and down the other that Darko would be a solid contributor this year and would be dominating by the end of next year.... :devil:

How's that?

Kstat
06-17-2004, 11:23 PM
I hope that was a joke and you just forgot to insert the Devil face after Darko.

Darko is a project, he will not be ready for a few more years and the Pistons know that.

Hard to say... I remember Kstat swearing up one side and down the other that Darko would be a solid contributor this year and would be dominating by the end of next year.... :devil:

How's that?

and gueess what.

I STILL think that if he gets minutes next year, he will bea solid guy off the bench. That kid has gotten HUGE over the last year.

He simply doesnt play hard in garbage time. Its not in his makep. Ive seen what he can do when motivated, I still have confidence that DArko can make up for Okur off the bench next season.

PistonsDynasty
06-18-2004, 12:05 AM
I hope Sheed does go to New York. I don't want him on this team. He's very average at best and has alot of off nights. Quite frankly the Pistons can do alot better in my book. My worst fear is Joe D. giving this fool a 5 or 6 year contract.

Seriously? You do realize he is why you won this year....

Before that, you wouldn't have beaten us or NJ...

I predicted the Pistons were going to win the championship since November. Theres no possible way to find out if the Pistons would of won without Sheed. Memo and Elden did a great job in the playoffs and COULD of won the championship with just those guys but theres no way to tell.

Sheed isn't what this team is about. He's a big loud mouth fool. Even at the parade this guy is wearing a Red Wings jersey with a red hat and red shorts. Everyone else has the championship hats and shirts on. This guy want to stand out and be the man but this team doesn't have the ""MAN"" and if it did it sure wouldn't be Sheed.

It p*sses me off how are these Detroit fans are all on there knees giving this guy bj's and begging him to stay. Just like they did Grant.

The Pistons and their 20+ million dollar (or something around there) can get a HECK of a better player than Sheed.

Kstat
06-18-2004, 12:12 AM
COngratulations on being a totally disloyal fan.

Without Rasheed, this team is out in the 2nd round this year. EVERYONE knows that except you.

Sheed isn't what this team is about. He's a big loud mouth fool. Even at the parade this guy is wearing a Red Wings jersey with a red hat and red shorts. Everyone else has the championship hats and shirts on. This guy want to stand out and be the man but this team doesn't have the ""MAN"" and if it did it sure wouldn't be Sheed.

Are you even a Pistons fan? The man wore a DETROIT RED WINGS SHIRT. My goodness, you are ungrateful.

t p*sses me off how are these Detroit fans are all on there knees giving this guy bj's and begging him to stay. Just like they did Grant.

Grant won us NOTHING. Sheed brought us a title. Look at the numbers before and after sheed. You are extremely delusional if you think otherwise.

The Pistons and their 20+ million dollar (or something around there) can get a HECK of a better player than Sheed.

Rasheed is one of the top 5 post-defenders in the NBA. Unless you mean Kobe, there is NOBODY better out there.

God, I cant believe I wasted breath responding to this garbage.

sweabs
06-18-2004, 12:31 AM
Someone must have broken into PistonsDynasty's account! Without Rasheed - well - we all know how that went.

PistonsDynasty
06-18-2004, 02:21 AM
God, I cant believe I wasted breath responding to this garbage.

Feel free to put me on ignore for having views diffrent from you and other Sheed groupies.

P.S. Rasheed didn't give us a title. The Detroit Pistons did.

Hoop
06-18-2004, 02:59 AM
I predicted the Pistons were going to win the championship since November. Theres no possible way to find out if the Pistons would of won without Sheed. Memo and Elden did a great job in the playoffs and COULD of won the championship with just those guys but theres no way to tell.

:laugh: I've read alot of your predictions over at RealGM, your one of biggest homer, delusional fans around. You picked a sweep in about every series and then changed your pick after every defeat. I'm surprised you didn't predict them to go 82-0 in November.

Since when did Memo do a good job in the playoffs? :laugh: His stock dropped almost as fast as G. Peyton's did, Piston fans were practically calling for his head on a stick. No sane Detroit fan could possible say the Sheed trade was not one of the biggest factors in you guys winning the title. As Kstat said Sheed is one of the top 5 post defenders in the league. Any Pacer fan that has watched JO go up against Sheed has seen that too, nobody gives JO anymore trouble. JO is the reason you guys wanted him, you would have had nobody that could guard JO without Sheed.

Personally I can't stand Sheed, but you guys would be stupid not to resign him, inless he wants insane money, aka B. Miller. Then you got to do what is best for the teams future.

Fool
06-18-2004, 08:12 AM
Since when did Memo do a good job in the playoffs? :laugh: His stock dropped almost as fast as G. Peyton's did, Piston fans were practically calling for his head on a stick.

Thats the only thing I would disagree with in your post. Piston fans were calling for Brown's head when he didn't use Memo in the NJ series (3 OT game) and then when he did (the next game) Detroit took control of the series and EVERYONE said "SEE!!! USE HIM!" Also, as far as I've seen teams like Pheonix and everyone not praying for T-Mac and Kobe still have great interest in Memo.

fwpacerfan
06-18-2004, 09:00 AM
I hope Sheed does go to New York. I don't want him on this team. He's very average at best and has alot of off nights. Quite frankly the Pistons can do alot better in my book. My worst fear is Joe D. giving this fool a 5 or 6 year contract.

How soon fans forget! :laugh:

I agree with you Rasheed sucks - he'll never amount to anything on the basketball court. There is NO WAY a team he plays for will win a championship!

wintermute
06-19-2004, 02:23 AM
some thoughts...

if isiah can convince sheed to relocate to new york, we'll owe isiah big time :devil:

piston fans convincing themselves they don't need sheed reminds me of pacer fans who are convincing themselves we don't need artest - simply put, these guys' talents are pretty unique and it would be hard to find replacements.

Kstat
06-19-2004, 02:26 AM
some thoughts...

if isiah can convince sheed to relocate to new york, we'll owe isiah big time :devil:

piston fans convincing themselves they don't need sheed reminds me of pacer fans who are convincing themselves we don't need artest - simply put, these guys' talents are pretty unique and it would be hard to find replacements.

Lets recap Isiah's "rumors"

-Isiah is going after Sheed

-Isiah is going after Okur (knowing full well his chances of signing him are %0.0)

-I fully expect Zeke to announce he wants to go after Ben Wallace and Rip Hamilton next :laugh: