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pwee31
08-25-2008, 03:18 PM
I'm just curious which game folks are going to be getting this fall?

I believe there's going to be 3 options. I haven't played a basketball game on a video system in awhile. I believe the last one was NBA Live 04 or 05

I know NBA Live used to be the NBA game to have, but I was curious if that has changed in recent years?

ajbry
08-25-2008, 03:45 PM
2K9 is the game to get. EA is attempting to make themselves relevant again but until their Live gameplay is remotely close to 2K, it's an easy decision.

kbunch
08-25-2008, 03:59 PM
NBA 2k9, no doubt about it.

Trader Joe
08-25-2008, 04:18 PM
Don't know yet honestly. I was a live guy until 2004, but I've been a 2k guy since then.

pwee31
08-25-2008, 04:37 PM
Any opinion on the NBA 09: the Inside?

The screenshots have looked pretty sweet, and I believe it's the same company that does the MLB the show franchises which I've heard good things about

Sounds like 2k is the game to get so far, is it because of gameplay, features, what makes it so likable?

Trader Joe
08-25-2008, 04:40 PM
2k's gameplay has been better for many year's, but I heard Live 08 really stepped it up.

ajbry
08-25-2008, 06:08 PM
Any opinion on the NBA 09: the Inside?

That series has always been a distant third. And will likely remain as such.

Hicks
08-25-2008, 07:25 PM
I've been a big 2k guy for a couple of years now. I will certainly chose 2k9 over the competition.

pwee31
08-25-2008, 07:52 PM
Wow, well I guess the NBA 2k seems the way to go so far.

I had heard live was struggling a bit so that's why I looked into other games.

The NBA 09: Inside screenshots looked cool, I like how the score in the corner has TNT. Makes it seem realistic, but if it's a distance 3rd, I may go another route.

I finally broke down and got a PS3 so I'm curious which sports game to get, since that's really all I play

duke dynamite
08-26-2008, 02:05 AM
I'm sticking with EA. This is the year that all the games are on the same level of quality that Madden NFL 09 is on.

I'm really excited.

Skaut_Ech
08-26-2008, 07:57 AM
I've been a big 2k guy for a couple of years now. I will certainly chose 2k9 over the competition.

I think it's been a MUCH better game than the others for a few years now. If you do some searches on comparision reviews, 2K always comes out on top. 2k man here!

Major Cold
08-26-2008, 09:30 AM
I bought Live 08. There are too many bugs. The opposing PG is like Marbury. Shooting and driving ever time. Paul shot like 60 shots against me and hit 39%. I smoked them.

Because so many of you get 2K I might cross over so I can play some online game. Gnome was playing for like 6 hours yesterday. Actually he was idle for 6 hours.

tora tora
08-26-2008, 09:36 AM
2k for 9 straight years... remember when it first came out for the Sega Dreamcast? Those were the days. http://i14.ebayimg.com/04/c/05/96/30/d1_8.JPG

rexnom
08-26-2008, 11:10 AM
2k for 9 straight years... remember when it first came out for the Sega Dreamcast? Those were the days. http://i14.ebayimg.com/04/c/05/96/30/d1_8.JPG
I almost bought a dreamcast because that game looked so awesome.

Robertmto
08-26-2008, 11:30 AM
Live is where all the money is at, so thats what i'll play

duke dynamite
08-26-2008, 12:46 PM
Live is where all the money is at, so thats what i'll play
word.

duke dynamite
08-26-2008, 12:47 PM
I almost bought a dreamcast because that game looked so awesome.
I bought a Dreamcast because that game looked awesome.

pwee31
08-26-2008, 01:57 PM
I bought a Dreamcast for the NFL 2k football game which I was hooked on at the time.

Soul calibur was another reason as well.

As the the bball game. I looked at a few compare/contrast of last year's models and 2k came out on top, NBA 08 actually came out ahead of Live as well in some reviews.

I've looked at the features and other aspects for this years game as well, but though the NBA Live DNA aspect sounds cool, I think I'll go the 2k route as well.

The gameplay just looks a lot smoother

ajbry
08-26-2008, 02:10 PM
Another good thing about buying 2K9 (if you have a 360), is that you can join the PD league...

I imagine we won't be doing 82 games this year either. :D

pwee31
08-26-2008, 02:19 PM
Another good thing about buying 2K9 (if you have a 360), is that you can join the PD league...

I imagine we won't be doing 82 games this year either. :D

That would've been pretty cool if my g/f's 360 wouldn't have gotten stolen by one of her roommates at the time.

Now I'm just going to get a PS3. I personally like the Blu Ray feature since I'm a avid movei watcher

Hicks
08-26-2008, 02:28 PM
Yeah, I think we want to do it again, but definitely with a smaller regular season.

duke dynamite
08-26-2008, 05:06 PM
Poo, looks like I'll miss all the fun.

Haggard
08-26-2008, 05:55 PM
i'll probably go back to Live.. although 2k8 was a good being an aussie it will be cool to play as the boomers with 24 the fiba teams and it also looks like ea are making a good game this year. it looks a lot better

Lord Helmet
08-26-2008, 06:32 PM
Well it's going to be a hard decision for me.

I really enjoyed 2K8 but I heard Live 08 was good and this year, EA is doing something that I think is going to be pretty cool.

Constantly updating the players stats from the last game they played in real life. So say like last year when Danny was scoring big in the last few weeks of the season, I'm assuming it was upgrade his stats accordingly.

It just looks cool. I may have to buy both.....:suicide:

Robertmto
08-27-2008, 01:23 PM
I'll prolly buy both

rexnom
08-27-2008, 03:03 PM
I'm still reeling from splurging on GTA IV a few months back...but I'm really enticed by both games, leaning more toward NBA Live.

Natston
08-28-2008, 01:12 AM
Unless EA makes some drastic changes to the gameplay among other things, I don't see any reason to ever buy Live again...

GO!!!!!
08-31-2008, 09:21 PM
I've allways been a LIVE guy ( PC ) but since i got the X, I'll get 2K as my first purchase, try something different

I got NBA 07 Cheap for a trial run but am looking forward to 2K9

Question, in Franchise Mode in 2K does it give you the option for 29 Game Season and can you also intervene half way threw the game EA sim the first 3 quarts

Hicks
08-31-2008, 09:39 PM
I don't know specifically if it's 29 games, but I believe you can have an abbreviated season similar to that amount, yes. I don't remember if they let you cut into the middle of a sim. game or not. I'm leaning towards no.

Doddage
09-01-2008, 06:02 PM
I've allways been a LIVE guy ( PC ) but since i got the X, I'll get 2K as my first purchase, try something different

I got NBA 07 Cheap for a trial run but am looking forward to 2K9

Question, in Franchise Mode in 2K does it give you the option for 29 Game Season and can you also intervene half way threw the game EA sim the first 3 quarts
If you plan on watching the game before taking over, then yes. But I don't think you can sim it a certain amount, and then start the game.

I do believe 2K has a 29-game season.

Doddage
09-01-2008, 06:05 PM
Another good thing about buying 2K9 (if you have a 360), is that you can join the PD league...

I imagine we won't be doing 82 games this year either. :D
Damn, I never knew PD had a 2k league. I'd be down for this when the time comes. I just hope that there are ground rules during the games, like no full court passes and abusing the pick and roll for dunks, etc.

GO!!!!!
09-01-2008, 06:19 PM
Darn, that was the best feature from NBA 07 PC, but Xbox 07 doesen't have it ( well i can't find it ), it's the only way to play a full season/franchise, sim the first 3 qrts and if it's close intervene for the last quarter and win or lose the game..

Thanks for the info on the 29 games, that makes life a wee bit easier...

Some more info on the 2K League would be good too, i take it the forum Admin get the Pacers and everone else gets leftovers...

Intresting concept..

Hicks
09-01-2008, 06:42 PM
Damn, I never knew PD had a 2k league. I'd be down for this when the time comes. I just hope that there are ground rules during the games, like no full court passes and abusing the pick and roll for dunks, etc.

We've had to establish some things, and I think the list will grow next year, but it's never extended to pick and rolls.

I believe we did put a stop to cherry picking, though. I think it was left at: A couple or so times a game is one thing. Doing it consistently and/or a lot is another.

I'd care to say that the EZ Iso button is going to join the list this year.

We're not a fan of exploitation, but I'd argue that some is inevitable within the flaws of the construct of the game (such as unstoppable dunks in traffic, players being slid out of the way, etc.). The key is moderation/modesty in those areas.

As for who got which team, I don't know if we'll reset that this year or how that will work. But last year I was the Celtics, Gnome was the Knicks, ajbry was the Warriors, Kstat was Detroit, Indy was Orlando, Spicoli was Denver, Lord Helmet was Indiana, naturallystoned was New Jersey, Seth was LALakers, cgg was Miami, LoiuvilleLip was Chicago, and spazzxb was Phoenix.

We contracted the league to 8 later on, and it never did finish, sadly.

We will definitely have a shorter regular season this year.

Whether we start again with 8 teams or 12 or more will depend on interest and expressed commitment.

Kstat
09-02-2008, 11:34 AM
I disagree about the full court passes.

I think that in real basketball you get some cherry picking too, but it's always selective, as opposed to every single play.

THe difference is when people start doing it (A) after made baskets and (B) every single play. Then it gets into cheesing.

The pick and rolls you can stop. Never had a problem if i knew it was coming.

Major Cold
09-02-2008, 12:58 PM
So is this game NBA 2K or NHL 2K? No full-court passing=offsides.

Doddage
09-02-2008, 06:35 PM
I disagree about the full court passes.

I think that in real basketball you get some cherry picking too, but it's always selective, as opposed to every single play.

THe difference is when people start doing it (A) after made baskets and (B) every single play. Then it gets into cheesing.

The pick and rolls you can stop. Never had a problem if i knew it was coming.
I'm well-aware that full court passes happen in real games, as well as pick and rolls for dunks. It's not a problem in itself at all, as you run into situations where you have to do those things. It's basketball. But the strategy component of the game gets wiped off when those things are used abusively in order to gain an advantage.

I've learned to adapt to cheese as well. Really, I don't have a problem with it for that reason. But if you have a sim basketball league, that kind of ***** has no place.

Hicks
09-02-2008, 07:20 PM
I wouldn't call this a sim league, but at the same time we don't like cheese, either. Of course, different people have different definitions of that.

Kstat
09-07-2008, 03:00 AM
the NBA live 09 demo is out, BTW.

I actually was impressed by the depth they went into. The players move much more realistically.

The 2-man controls is long overdue. Haven't leraned them yet, but it sounds promising.

Also, the daily updated rosters is really, really cool.

Can't wait for the 2K9 demo.

GO!!!!!
09-07-2008, 03:45 AM
the NBA live 09 demo is out, BTW.

I actually was impressed by the depth they went into. The players move much more realistically.

The 2-man controls is long overdue. Haven't leraned them yet, but it sounds promising.

Also, the daily updated rosters is really, really cool.

Can't wait for the 2K9 demo.

I downloaded the demo too, downloaded it yesterday, have played about 6 games and lost like 16-10 on all but one, draw one game..

The play calling was nice, bit touchy on the fouls, I never got a steal but got Plenty of foul calls, also struggled to get any rebounds or blocks, seems like it takes a couple seconds to jump for a rebound/block, could just have been me

It looks like it has potential, the roster update feature and the retro roster options were neat....

Interesting to see how it if it translates in to dynasty mode...

Worth a download...

Kstat
09-07-2008, 10:06 AM
speaking of potential, being able to play 5-on-5 online is also something really worth talking about.

Think of a 5-on-5 PD league. That would be awesome.

ajbry
09-07-2008, 10:31 AM
speaking of potential, being able to play 5-on-5 online is also something really worth talking about.

Think of a 5-on-5 PD league. That would be awesome.

<<<<< Would play as Stephen Jackson.


And I'll download the Live demo since I have nothing to do today...

Kstat
09-07-2008, 10:39 AM
Also, the international team roster has been expanded to 24, with FIBA rules.

Serbia has been added, which will appease my Yugo friends out there...

the "rewind" feature is also something really cool to think about. Being able to re-play an actual game simulated with your personal intervention.

Hicks
09-07-2008, 03:00 PM
I played the Live 09 demo and wasn't impressed with the controls at all. 2k is much better IMO.

With that said, I love what they are doing with constantly updating the stats and tendencies of the players and everything else I'm leaving out that's included. That was all very impressive. If 2K9 doesn't have something like that, they certainly need to have it for 2K10.

Playing last night's game over with your intervention is also awesome and I would like to see FIBA in 2K as well. Live's certainly got the best features for 2009 (so far; 2K is keeping what they consider their biggest new stuff under wraps for a few more weeks), but I'm still firmly a 2K person right now.

Regarding 5-on-5 that is going to be on both Live and 2K this year. I want to try it, but I can see it being awkward if all 5 aren't on the same page.

Hicks
09-07-2008, 03:07 PM
By the way, there's a rumor I've read that along with Clark Kellogg replacing Kenny Smith, we are also getting Doug Collins on 2K9.

Hicks
09-07-2008, 03:14 PM
Just saw these screenshots from a foreign version of the game. Interesting new team select screen.

http://media.cnetnetworks.fr/gamekult-com/images/photos/00/01/00/19/ME0001001932_2.jpg

http://media.cnetnetworks.fr/gamekult-com/images/photos/00/01/00/19/ME0001001909_2.jpg

bellisimo
09-07-2008, 09:38 PM
live...the only option for the PC :(

ajbry
09-07-2008, 09:53 PM
... but I can see it being awkward if all 5 aren't on the same page.

That'll be half the fun! :D

People getting mad about not sharing the ball, etc. Sounds good to me.

Aw Heck
09-07-2008, 10:04 PM
By the way, there's a rumor I've read that along with Clark Kellogg replacing Kenny Smith, we are also getting Doug Collins on 2K9.
Haven't heard about Doug Collins, but it looks like Cheryl Miller is replacing Craig Sager in the game too:
http://i508.photobucket.com/albums/s327/Rene7100/NBA%202K9%20Pics/ME0001001928_2.jpg

GO!!!!!
09-08-2008, 12:03 AM
live...the only option for the PC :(

err hate to burst the buble, i could be wrong but i was told LIVE isen't gonna be on the PC for 09 and beyond...... i could be mistaken , things could have changed but to my knowledge it won't make be on the PC

That's why i wasted some good hard cash to buy an Xbox and try n beat some of the digest faithfull in COD4 and NBA...

bellisimo
09-08-2008, 04:38 AM
err hate to burst the buble, i could be wrong but i was told LIVE isen't gonna be on the PC for 09 and beyond...... i could be mistaken , things could have changed but to my knowledge it won't make be on the PC

That's why i wasted some good hard cash to buy an Xbox and try n beat some of the digest faithfull in COD4 and NBA...

yea I just found out about it :(


the PC presents some very serious business challenges to us in the sports category, particularly because so many of you all are playing your favorite sports games on the PS3, Xbox 360 and Wii. We are committed to shipping a limited number of our games on the PC this year, but we’ve also had to cut a few of our games from the platform. We do have ideas for how to revitalize the PC for sports games and the types of games that are best suited to the platform, and we’ll continue to explore those.

guess no nba games for me this year...Live 08 is crap :(

Hicks
09-08-2008, 11:52 AM
I thought I saw somewhere that 2k9 might show up on PC. Of course, if it's like how Live was treated on PC, it will probably closely resemble a last-gen system's game than something belonging on the 360 or PS3......

GO!!!!!
09-08-2008, 06:00 PM
That would be intresting.... and i guess it's easy to see for me, but getting a console is worth it, still getting used to the layouts and options after having played since 01 on a PC

Consoles are pretty handy and the graphics are sweeet, the main pain is i gotta buy a new TV coz i can't watch tv and play at the same time and i used to love that about the PC... i know i know, sad sad sad.... bit i like to multi-task.... ( plus i want a HUGE LCD )....

CableKC
09-08-2008, 07:02 PM
NBA2k9 on PS3....FTW!!!!

Robertmto
09-09-2008, 12:52 AM
i'll play on 360

Hicks
09-12-2008, 08:09 PM
A little bit more information on 2k9:

http://sportvideogames.net/2008/09/12/nba-2k9-developer-q-a-2ksportscom/

Robertmto
09-12-2008, 09:33 PM
Ok, I'm gettin Live 09 for free so I'll def be buyin 2K9 lol

SpADeD
09-13-2008, 02:22 PM
Live has been horrible for a long time. 2K hands down. The only reason I would even rent Live is for FIBA play.

Kstat
09-13-2008, 08:20 PM
NBA is gradually getting back. Last year was an improvement, and 09 is looking like another big improvement.

The user controlled pick and roll scenarios and simplified playcalling is something I have yet to see in 2K, as are the AI player tenancies.

2K9 will still probably be more user-friendly, but NBA live is getting player personalities down, which is impressive.

Hicks
09-13-2008, 09:16 PM
I'm crossing my fingers on something else with 2k9. Little things here and there that I read from the 2k people teasing their "big announcement" of what they've added makes me think it's an equivalent of sorts to the player DNA that Live 09 has. I hope so.

Also, 2k8 already had simplified play calling. I do it so subconsciously now I don't recall if it's LB or RB (I think it's LB), but you hold that down and hit one of four buttons for quick iso, quick pick and roll, quick post up, and quick get open (I think that's the 4th one).

Kstat
09-14-2008, 09:07 AM
I'm crossing my fingers on something else with 2k9. Little things here and there that I read from the 2k people teasing their "big announcement" of what they've added makes me think it's an equivalent of sorts to the player DNA that Live 09 has. I hope so.

I keep hearing it's going to be the every-day roster updates that 09 has.




Also, 2k8 already had simplified play calling. I do it so subconsciously now I don't recall if it's LB or RB (I think it's LB), but you hold that down and hit one of four buttons for quick iso, quick pick and roll, quick post up, and quick get open (I think that's the 4th one).

That's not what I'm talking about.

Instead of the complicated play names, they has simple stuff, and the player you're running the play for will always be included in the play.

On a side note, the pick and roll controls are a pretty neat innovation. I wish 2K could do something similar. You can control the screener as well, not just the ballhandler. You can do the classic pick and roll, or a pick and fade, have the screener slip out of the pick immediately, etc.

Major Cold
09-15-2008, 08:38 AM
you should download the Live demo. It is fun to run the triangle. And Bynum on the Lakers is scary.

Hicks
09-19-2008, 09:09 PM
Here are some of the meatier features of 2K9.

None of them excite me, but they all seem solid.



NBA 2K series fans, prepare yourselves for the 2K Insider because he's going to have a big effect on the future of your favorite basketball series. The mystery blogger/statistician/arbiter of all things NBA 2K will make his first appearance in the upcoming NBA 2K9 as the centerpiece of a new online feature the developers behind the game are calling Living Rosters. We had a chance to get a sneak peek at the Living Rosters feature, chat about the 2K Insider, and get a feel for the new franchise mode in NBA 2K9 during a visit by 2K Sports developers earlier this week.


The new Living Roster feature will ensure your NBA 2K9 roster is up-to-date based on real-world information.
First of all, the developers at 2K are entirely aware of the competition. As any hoops gaming fan knows, EA Sports' NBA Live 09 announced its player DNA feature a few months back, whereby in-game player attributes will be updated based on real-life results. 2K understands that Living Rosters might sound like a similar feature, and they're quick to point out its essential differences. The crucial distinction, as they put it, is the "human touch" of the 2K Insider, a hired employee whose job it will be to not just act as the face of the 2K Sports community, but to also have a real impact on the rosters in the game.

As with the competition, you can expect to see roster and attribute changes when you download a new 2K roster in NBA 2K9, all based around what's happening in the real world. However, rather than update things on a daily basis, 2K devs told us that the plan was to change a roster when it was warranted. Naturally big-time injuries or huge trades will be reflected in the game on a timely basis. What seems to set 2K9 apart, however, is how those changes are made and how much they can add to the gameplay experience.

The 2K Insider will be able to communicate important news via a blog on the company's Web site, as well as through calling out specific players via an in-game 2K Insider screen that will highlight the latest news and biggest movers in the NBA. In addition, the 2K Insider will be able to affect the stats of players on a regular basis. If Derrick Rose has had a consistent streak of missing from beyond the 3-point line, you can expect to see his 3-point percentage take a hit in the game, courtesy of the Insider.

But while the 2K Insider can take away, he can also give. If Deron Williams continues his success of last season or O.J. Mayo begins to dominate during his maiden campaign in the NBA, you can expect to see not just attribute bonuses but actual new animations available to that player as the season progresses. These new animation packages will be mo-capped, produced, and added during the course of the season by 2K devs and added to deserving players who have excelled during the season (or perhaps even developed a new signature move). In other words, this is new content developed during and relevant to the 2008/09 NBA season, not merely unlockable animation packages that are already in the game.

So, this 2K Insider seems like he will have a lot of power over how 2K9 plays after the game is released in October. While developers say that a lot of his judgment calls will be based on his opinion (and thus open to argument from 2K fans), none of the really important decisions (such as for attribute changes or animation package additions) will be made in a vacuum. The dev team and the Insider will all be discussing big changes in the game, whether new animations that make their way into a specific player's arsenal of moves, right down to the smallest attribute change. In other words, don't blame the 2K Insider if your favorite player takes a huge ratings hit; blame the entire development team. Or better yet, blame the real-life player who blows it on the court in the first place.


Think of the 2K Insider as Stephen A. Smith, if Stephen A. Smith was better-informed and less annoying.
While the Living Rosters approach to game updates seems like a gamble of sorts, the improvements to NBA 2K9's franchise mode--dubbed Association 2.0--seem like a sure bet. Franchise mode has always been one of the series' strengths and for NBA 2K9, the team seems to be building on those strengths. One of the biggest changes is the look of franchise mode, now redesigned with an NBA.com flair, with lots of dynamically generated news stories filling up the "front page" of Association mode. These news stories can include everything from key roster changes to big-game performances and career milestones, as well as juicier news such as players going public with their team grievances, and a rumor mill that will feature a mix of realistic and unrealistic stories based on what's happening in the league.

NBA 2K9 introduced player roles and personalities into the franchise mode, essentially a way to gauge how quickly a particular player might express (or repress) his displeasure. For 2K9, a new player attribute--ambition--will work into the franchise mix. Ambition will be measured across three factors: play for winner, financial security, and loyalty. Every player in the league will weigh these three factors slightly differently, and how each of these factors is considered by a player will determine what he or she is looking for from your team. For example, a young player might be looking to make as much money as possible, while an experienced player or veteran staring at the end of his career might want to focus on getting an NBA Championship.

These player ambitions seem to go a long way toward improving the authenticity of the player signing and trade logic in the game. In the past, it was far too easy to build a dream team of players in the NBA 2K series, because you had first rights toward re-signing any player. With 2K9, a player will field multiple offers and decide on what's best for him based on his ambition logic. Another aspect of authenticity in 2K9: Bird rights, where a team over the salary cap can re-sign its own free agents if those players have played three or more seasons without changing teams in free agency. Essentially, this gives your team the right to exceed the salary cap to re-sign a player, while other teams will have to use salary-cap space to sign him.

While authenticity is clearly a big priority for the developers at 2K Sports, it's heartening to see that approachability has gotten a nod in Association 2.0 as well. User interface has always been one of the biggest weaknesses of 2K Sports games in general and the menus in the game look to be improved this time around. For instance, player ratings have been consolidated from the numerical ratings across tons of attributes into simple, easy-to-understand grade ratings for a smaller number of attributes (though the numerical ratings are still being used, and can be viewed if you like). In addition, if you want to try franchise but aren't necessarily the next Daryl Morey, you'll be able to automate a ton of different options for your franchise, including lineup management, simulation strategy, prospect scouting, player trading, NBA Draft, training camps, and more. There's also an improved trading screen that makes three-way trades easier to understand, if not pull off.


Player ambitions will play a big role in how a player reacts to your team's success or failure, especially when it's time to talk contract renewal.
While the 2K Insider, Living Rosters, and Association 2.0 are big, it's certainly not the entire story with NBA 2K9. The game will also include five-on-five online play for the first time (we hope to get hands-on with this in the near future) as well as little touches like the correct Oklahoma City Thunder uniform and logo (sorry about that, Seattle Sonics fans), improved crowd animations, and more. We'll have more information on NBA 2K9 in the near future; for now, check out an in-depth interview on NBA 2K9's new features with 2K Sports developers Rob Jones and Erick Boenisch on GameSpot's weekly sports gaming podcast, From the Bleachers.

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/sports/nba2k9/news.html?sid=6197851

Also, here are previously announced features:


GAMEPLAY FEATURES

Shot Stick Advanced - The revolutionary Shot Stick control system takes it one step further, allowing you to change your shots in mid-air.

Adaptive AI - Adaptive AI will read, react, and adjust in real time to your strategies. Your teammates will initiate cuts, picks, and post-ups based on how you handle the ball, while your opponent modifies strategy to fit the pace of the game.

The Association 2.0 - The BEST just got even better. With NBA.com, you'll have access to all the latest rumors, trades, scores news stories and more, plus new features like Player Personalities, Ambitions, and Player Roles, a plethora of customizable options, and NEW mini-game drills make this is the deepest and most robust Franchise mode on the market.

PRESENTATION FEATURES

2K-HD - Drastically improved facial and skin textures, better uniforms, improved eye movement and more realistic crowd reactions bring the game alive like never before.

All-New Broadcast Team - Analyst Clark Kellogg and sideline reporter Cheryl Miller join color commentator Kevin Harlan to create one of the most knowledgeable broadcast teams in the game.

Better Replays & Cut Scenes - End each quarter with enhanced, multiple angle replay highlights, and be rewarded like never before with all-new, true-to-life celebration sequences after you capture the NBA championship.

ONLINE FEATURES

NBA 2K Online Features - 2K Sports' industry leading online service gets all-new features like 5-on-5 Multiplayer mode with Total Team Control and a new ranking system--from Bench Warmer to Rookie to Pro to Superstar--that shows you how to match up against your opponents.

2K Share - Create, upload, and share rosters, sliders, and even players created with the all-new Player DNA feature. This also includes the newly revamped Reelmaker, where you can now direct your own digital video highlight reels and post them on 2KSports.com or your personal web page for all the world to watch and admire.

http://2ksports.com/games/nba2k9 (This link has some videos of the game as well)

ajbry
09-19-2008, 09:15 PM
The trailer was fantastic, I can't wait to play as J-Craw...

And here's the first official look at some gameplay (in HD):

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/40261.html


I am very much looking forward to Oct. 7th. :dance:

Hicks
09-19-2008, 09:30 PM
I'm listening to the podcast where they interview the 2k guys, and their improving the player signatures by bringing in not just fluff like custom celebrations for different players, but now they're looking at defense. Supposedly we'll be able to tell just by watching that Lindsay Hunter is a ball hawk, Shane Battier gives up his body, Sheed is great with his hands, etc.

Hicks
09-19-2008, 09:35 PM
I'm hearing the new AI they've added on O and D will have your computer teammates acting more intelligently and realistically. Like if you're standing dribbling with the ball for a while, a teammate might come set a pick for you. Some will roll, but if it's someone like Sheed, he'll probably fade instead.

If a player sometimes in real life shows a pick, but sometimes doesn't actually set it and quickly run back to the basket, he might do that.

Of course, you can always manually command players to do that like normal to your liking.

Hicks
09-19-2008, 09:35 PM
It sounds like roster updates will be more automated this year, too.

"We're going to update as needed. If we need two updates in one day, we'll do it." - 2K developer on the podcast.

The Insider will apparently explain big changes to the players' ratings as well, as well. Nice that it won't just be roster changes, but stat changes.

Hicks
09-19-2008, 09:38 PM
I'm wondering since they've changed the code to where they can add new content to players, such as animations and abilities, if they will change the OKC arena or have the announcers say their team name. I'm doubting it, but you never know.

At least they'll have the right logo and jerseys.

Hicks
09-19-2008, 09:40 PM
"If a player has a sweet layup or dunk during the NBA season, we'll probably be adding it as an animation."

Interesting how detailed they want to be. Talking about if Derrick Rose, for example, proved to be a big flopper, they'd add that characteristic to him in the game itself.

I like how the Insider is supposed to explain all of the changes they make as the season goes along, and apparently it will be possible to respond to him as well. Should be cool.

The more I'm digesting this and hearing about it, the more neat it sounds.

Hicks
09-19-2008, 09:41 PM
Lastly for now, something that's big for me as an Association user is being able to automate certain things. I got so tired of having to keep telling my scouts to do their jobs. I'm definitely going to let them handle the heavy load and just reap the benefits of their reporting when I have the time, and tell them to focus as necessary.

GO!!!!!
09-20-2008, 04:12 AM
how does this 24-7 roster changes and game styles effect the dynasty mode..

Dynasty is the main reason i play any game... a chance to take the franchise to the Promised Land..

if there is a trade in the real world... do they have the skills to make it work in dynasty mode ( only when Applicable, Say Player A is still on Team A )

On first glance i'd say NO, but i'd like to hope the game for a first time might release a overight option or password where you can make the change if you desire...

maybe i'm being to complicated...

Hicks
09-20-2008, 09:33 AM
I think it might be expecting too much to have the changes infiltrate a dynasty game because you could have been making your own trades or the CPU might be making trades.

Roaming Gnome
09-20-2008, 02:09 PM
I'm wondering since they've changed the code to where they can add new content to players, such as animations and abilities, if they will change the OKC arena or have the announcers say their team name. I'm doubting it, but you never know.

At least they'll have the right logo and jerseys.


as well as little touches like the correct Oklahoma City Thunder uniform and logo (sorry about that, Seattle Sonics fans)

I believe NBA Live and 2k had the logos and unis a while before they were announced to the general public.

ajbry
09-20-2008, 06:38 PM
http://www.sportsgamer.com/content/2237/nba-2k9-point-guard-ratings/

First ratings out, and apparently this same site will be releasing the rest during next week (so 2-guards will be on Monday).

I'm shocked at some of the huge miscalculations here. Baron Davis is overrated and his 3PT rating is absurd... Andre Miller is woefully underrated, even JT is rated higher...

tora tora
09-21-2008, 03:18 AM
Nice, looks like they made TJ Ford a speed demon with great ball handling..

Kstat
10-02-2008, 06:36 PM
NBA 2K9 demo is out. PS3 only for now.

Hicks
10-02-2008, 07:19 PM
It's been delay after delay with the 360 demo. :soundoff:

Hicks
10-02-2008, 07:23 PM
According to Microsoft, tt is projected to go up at tomorrow morning in the next batch of demo releases. Thanks.

Just read that now. About damn time. I have tomorrow off, too. :)

Kstat
10-02-2008, 07:28 PM
its NBA 2K8.5.

They added a bunch of new animations and some awesome presentation, but the core gameplay is %95 the same.

It's slower and easier to block shots. That's about it.

Most NBA 2K8 participants will be able to play this game well, right out of the box

Hicks
10-02-2008, 08:08 PM
Curious that you say it's slower. I recall reading somewhere that they were bumping the speed UP a tiny bit.

Kstat
10-02-2008, 08:23 PM
Curious that you say it's slower. I recall reading somewhere that they were bumping the speed UP a tiny bit.

I think you misread it. The reports were that they were going o slow the game down a bit to lessen the easy fast breaks.

ajbry
10-02-2008, 08:36 PM
Second official trailer is out, I am so damn hyped for this game.

Oh, and the fact that Jack is in the trailer don't hurt either. :D

Hicks
10-02-2008, 11:06 PM
I think you misread it. The reports were that they were going o slow the game down a bit to lessen the easy fast breaks.

No, we read different things. I distinctly remember reading about 2k8 being slightly too slow and that 2k9 was supposed to be back to 2k7 speed. All relatively minor differences.

If it really is slower, I'm not sure how I will feel about it until I dive in. I liked last years speed.

GO!!!!!
10-02-2008, 11:14 PM
Just went to me local Store.. Due there on the 10th.. doubt i'll get the demo before then.. can't wait

7 Sleeeps....

GO!!!!!
10-07-2008, 10:21 PM
I seen a couple of the brotherhood allready playing 2K9...

updates please... two more days till i get my hands on a copy...

Haggard
10-08-2008, 02:59 AM
Ive been reading a bit about the games and I'm swinging towards 2k9. I'll prob pick my copy up next week.

Robertmto
10-08-2008, 09:20 AM
i have both, both of the gameplays kinda suck imo, 2k9 is better tho

pwee31
10-12-2008, 03:31 AM
I ended up getting 2k9. I like it. Crowd gets into it. I like the Blacktop feature. And it's like the frist game ever to say my first and last name properly. Pretty cool player/coaches graphics. I'm terrible at the game, but I'm getting better

GO!!!!!
10-12-2008, 04:36 AM
Got 2k9 on Friday and have played about 12 games.. like 4-8 or something shocking...

Good Graphics and only having played live on the PC before, i must say 2K9 AI seems pretty impressive..

but damm if i know how to stop the other team making three pointers... i gace up 96 points in one game, 6min Qrt Pro with Kirk Henrich scoring 33 on 7-9 Shooting from 3 point land..

Enjoyable but frustrating....

Hicks
10-12-2008, 08:00 AM
Enjoyable but frustrating is how I feel about 2k9 right about now, too.

ajbry
10-12-2008, 12:17 PM
Same. 2K9 seems to possess a few more specific flaws than 2K8 but the overall experience has improved.

Kuq_e_Zi91
10-13-2008, 08:42 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfGbDIS5Bg4

Yep, very frustrating. But still, Live can't be much better.

EDIT: :laugh::laugh::laugh: Never mind. I just found this. I'm happy with what I have, because it could be much worse.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=161fIV6tNeQ

duke dynamite
10-13-2008, 12:37 PM
Live 09 is just impressive. The players don't seem "robotic" anymore. The plays are much more smooth, the training camp feature is nice.

One thing I can't wait for is the Live 365 feature to be used fully. Since we are in the second week of preseason play, not much is going on.

Kuq_e_Zi91
10-13-2008, 01:06 PM
Live 09 is just impressive. The players don't seem "robotic" anymore. The plays are much more smooth, the training camp feature is nice.

One thing I can't wait for is the Live 365 feature to be used fully. Since we are in the second week of preseason play, not much is going on.

Yeah, I liked the demo. I just figured I knew what I was getting with the 2k series so I chose that one. I'm seriously considering getting Live now though.

One issue I had with the Live demo was that when you jumped to block a shot, they wouldn't necessarily jump in the right direction or towards the player. This happened sometimes during rebounds too. Is that fixed in the full game?

duke dynamite
10-13-2008, 09:20 PM
Yeah, I liked the demo. I just figured I knew what I was getting with the 2k series so I chose that one. I'm seriously considering getting Live now though.

One issue I had with the Live demo was that when you jumped to block a shot, they wouldn't necessarily jump in the right direction or towards the player. This happened sometimes during rebounds too. Is that fixed in the full game?

I don't block much, my defense doesn't let many plays get in the paint. But when I block, they are most of the time on target, or late. I played the demo and I did notice that problem. I went through the run defense drill, and it took me a few times to get the hang of the new controls, but it seems like the blocking issue was fixed.

Also:
My brother, who doesn't buy or play sports games, downloaded the demo and bought it tonight he thought it was so good. He is very picky and critical of his games he plays, since that is all he does.

pwee31
10-20-2008, 10:47 AM
I've been playing 2K9 on the PS3

After some downtime and major online issues, I've been able to get some online games in.

I only play as the Pacers, and though I haven't won many, it feels so good when I do win.

For one the team isn't rated very high, Secondly, anybody can win with Boston, or Kobe or Lebron driving all day, so it means more to win against my team, knowing the opponent thinks they're going to blow me out once I select the Pacers

Trader Joe
10-20-2008, 03:52 PM
Does anyone else have a bit of a framerate issue with 2k9 on the 360? I doubt it's my system since I'm running on an elite that functions perfectly everywhere else. It's sort of frustrating.

Also, I thought they fixed the NBA player's missing easy layups issue?

I'd say it's good, but it's still extremely disappointing.

duke dynamite
10-20-2008, 04:01 PM
Still having a great time with Live 09. Still waiting for the Live 365 update, though.

GO!!!!!
10-20-2008, 04:56 PM
I agree with the dam lay up problem and it gives me the you know what’s, especially when it's a close late game and you run your signature pick and roll..

But i thought the game did it on purpose, if you did a lay up like ten times in a row you start missing them.. maybe it's just me...

Ownagedood
10-21-2008, 12:54 PM
Ok.. I was trying to read all of it.. but my question just itched too bad.. Haha.. Ok so I have played both.. I like the gameplay much better on 2k9.. BUT the aspects and extra stuff (including online play) are MUCH better on live...

One thing I HATE... absolutely HATE is that on 2k9, you can pretty much nail a three anytime you want... I played a game online and the guy I was against used McGrady like the whole time, and was like 30-35 from 3's... And I was like 25-27 with Raja Bell... That is just something I don't think I can deal with.. It takes away all the fun, because I had to start just throwing up three's just to compete, instead of running up and down getting layups like I wanted to. (I won btw. :))That is the big leaner that is making me shift to getting live this year.. and also that the online play for 2k9 sucks. At least on PS3.

Oh ya.. The other thing I hated about 2k9 was it was way to easy to steal the ball... That's pretty much why I won when I played.. But I love the gameplay other then that... And live is too much arcadish.. And the jumping for rebounds and blocks on live sucks.

EDIT: Im just trying to compare and contrast the games... see which is better.. Its just very dissapointing to me that they can't just come together to make the perfect video game.. Because what one has, the other doesn't.. Basically all NBA Live needs is good, realistic gameplay.. Which is why everyone buys 2k9.. That's really the only upper hand 2k has on live.

Ownagedood
10-21-2008, 03:15 PM
Now that you guys have played a while.. what are your thoughts?

duke dynamite
10-21-2008, 04:54 PM
Oh ya.. The other thing I hated about 2k9 was it was way to easy to steal the ball... That's pretty much why I won when I played.. But I love the gameplay other then that... And live is too much arcadish.. And the jumping for rebounds and blocks on live sucks.


I found it's a little more difficult to steal on Live this year.

Live, I still think the gameplay and player movement is more fluid. The players flow and move more realistically, and not like robots.

Ownagedood
10-21-2008, 05:29 PM
I found it's a little more difficult to steal on Live this year.

Ya, they call a lot of penalty's when you try..

pwee31
10-21-2008, 05:49 PM
I haven't played Live, but I'm thinking about renting it, just to get a glance to try and compare.

I don't mind 2k9 (PS3) The game play is pretty good.

I agree that steals and deflections are way too easy, but the reaction to a deflection is terrible in my opinion, you swipe or batted the ball away and then there's a hesistation to go after the ball.

My online experience has been hit or miss. I agree shooting the three is a little to easy. Not necessarily hitting, too many, but some players hitting threes on a regular basis that really shouldn't be.

This really comes into play online when you're playing some with the Lakers, Cavs, or Rockets. These teams are usually selected for Kobe, Lebron, McGrady, and are selected by the players who have mastered the 1 on 5 and just dribble and spin to the lane the majority of the time and then shooting the 3 once the player gets hot.

Besides those 3, I think the Suns are the other popular selection. Amare is pretty much unstoppable and there 3 point shooters are lights out from three... which is about the only team I expect to be.

Other then those for teams, the online experience is usually pretty fun.

It appears they finally fixed the errors where the game would freeze online and you couldn't even join a match.

All in all I still like the game, but I'm definitely curious how Live compares

Ownagedood
10-21-2008, 06:29 PM
The more I think about it, the more I lean towards 2k9... I just hope the online play gets better...

GO!!!!!
10-22-2008, 05:03 PM
Having never played Next G Bball and allways played live on PC till 08, I must say I am impressed with 2K9 on the box.. the players look like real and the off ball plays are good..

The 3's in the game are killing me more then helping me, I have yet to shoot 10 3's a game but have been abused by othertimes that maybe shoulden't be shooting them as much as they are..

haven't played online yet but overall i'm impressed, the diving for looseballs is awesome to watch but i struggle to get many steals, maybe 5 a game and thats equal to 7-10 fouls...

I'm impressed and after my doube OT loss to the lakers last night still excited..

I might get Live09 when it's on special later this year but for now 2K9 works for me..

Overall it's impressive to me but i'm not comparing it to any real benchmark so that could hinder my objectivity

Skaut_Ech
10-23-2008, 11:17 AM
Maybe you guys can answer a question for me. I've had NBA2K8 since it came out, but I've never played online. I'm a decent player and played various people in person. Yeserday I played online.

OMG!!

First of all, I could NEVER get the timing down on shooting. My percentage was in the upper %30 range for two of the three game I played. And I could never get steals. I'm triple or double team a guy in the post who just kept doing spins moves, etc, till he tossed the ball up..and it went in. VERY frustrating.

But that's not my biggest gripe/cause of concern.

Every time I missed a shot, the opponent would get a rebound, take two steps and whip it to the SG or SF, who would already be 3/4 court away for an easy one on none fast break. If I did have a guy close, it was simply a footrace I would always loose. I could never stop it.

Now, the two game where I got stomped, my opponent immediately made some type of coaching changes before the game started. The one close game I had, my opponent DIDn't do that. So.....

How are these guy getting these ridiculous fast breaks EVERY SINGLE REBOUND?

How should I be putting my settings so I can compete?

Other than my main question, what should I be doing to improve my online play? It plays totally different from in person. (Like when you dunk playing someone in person, they dunk. Playing someone on line, the dunker hesistates and plants his feet, giving the D time to block it.)

It was humiliating losing so badly, especially when the guy gets up by 20 points, then starts launching three pointers from about 10 past the three point arc and hitting.

Are there some kind of glithces or tricks I don't know about that I should?

GO!!!!!
10-23-2008, 04:47 PM
Not having played online my comments may be off the mark, but i would think they are changing there offensive plays/Coaching to fastbreak ( MAX ).. so everytime on a rebound there guys are half way up the court as suggested...

Just another reason not to play online with guys you don't know, that would irk me so bad... dammm because thats not playing, thats padding stats to get wins..

Skaut_Ech
10-24-2008, 03:24 PM
Just got NBA2K9 today and have played three games. The low post game is a LOT better this year. I love that you can call bank shots and reverse layups. I can't make steals for jack and the timing on blocks is kinda tricky for me, although Shaq seems to do me up right in that department.

I always debate on getting updated games when you had the game from the previous year, but I gotta say, I think the gameplay is smoother than last year. Three sems to go in a bit too easy, compared to last year. Playing tighter D seems easier in terms of getting in a guy's face, but I keep having guys get by me. Alley-Opps seem harder, thank goodness. I'm pretty hyped about this year's game. Once I get more familiar, I'm going to have to play some of you guys online. My gamertag is "candisboy", if anyone is looking for a game down the road. I tend to play late afternoons and from about 9pm-11p.

GO!!!!!
10-24-2008, 09:41 PM
I am annoyed as heck, played me first online game today, was playing well, getting more blocks then i do playing season mode..

Managed to get up by six with a min to go and the poser leaves the game..

Dam I am annoyed...

I had the same problem as Skaut had before, the dude made a change as soon as the game started and was playing with like four defenders all game while one just loitered under the other hoop.. I managed to minimise the damage because i was scoring enough against his four-man defence..

But damm, I wanted that W for my stats and now i got sweet bugger all..

My annoyance of the day... might go back to COD4, rather have guys jump like spastics and shoot me with bigger guns with out me even seeing them then play 3 5/6 quarters to have some one just leave..

I’ve added ya skaut... hopefully get to play some time...

Ownagedood
10-27-2008, 02:50 PM
Just got 2k9 :)

About to go up and ball it up :D

bellisimo
10-29-2008, 08:57 PM
I thought I saw somewhere that 2k9 might show up on PC. Of course, if it's like how Live was treated on PC, it will probably closely resemble a last-gen system's game than something belonging on the 360 or PS3......

yup! Just found out that 2k9 is on the PC! :dance:

Ownagedood
10-31-2008, 08:52 PM
Anyone else having problems with the online 2k9 play?? Mine on the PS3 SUCKS!!! It lags like crazy in team play, sometimes lagging completely out.. Most times it takes forever just to get in a game.

Hicks
10-31-2008, 09:00 PM
It's a problem on the 360, too.

They're said to be working on it, and suggested a temp fix can be to simply not speak through your microphone (have it off) until after the game has started.

duke dynamite
11-01-2008, 01:43 AM
Loving the Live 365 feature on Live 09!

bellisimo
11-03-2008, 10:56 AM
Finally! a NG Basketball game for my PC! :D

Played NBA2k9 a bit...but defense is frustrating...the computer is just abusing all my players down low. Any suggestions on how to play some D in this game? :D

Skaut_Ech
11-03-2008, 03:59 PM
I don't know about the PC version, but I couldn't do jack till I downloaded someone's version of sliders to make the game more realistic. (I played a trapping D and had Diop hit a three pointer on me....twice, before sliders.)

It seems the game really needs slider tweaking to get realistic play.

Trader Joe
11-03-2008, 05:57 PM
I have a lot of trouble playing D on this years version of 2k9. In fact, I'd say I suck at 2k9 so far, and many of you can vouch that I was no slouch on 2k8. I just can't get the hang of it.

Haggard
11-03-2008, 11:29 PM
I have a lot of trouble playing D on this years version of 2k9. In fact, I'd say I suck at 2k9 so far, and many of you can vouch that I was no slouch on 2k8. I just can't get the hang of it.


Been having the same problem dude.. starting to get the hang of it but then i guess my concentration lags and the cpu team dominates me for a few minutes and then the game is more or less over.

Hicks
11-03-2008, 11:33 PM
I'm starting to get the hang of it, but I felt like I was much better at 2k8 as well.

GO!!!!!
11-04-2008, 03:43 PM
I have found they hit an abnormal amount of 3's, I just played the Hawks and Smith scorched me for 19 Points on 9-10 Shooting, Bibby went crazy as well and scored like 4-6 from 3 Land when i tryed to sag of and double team down low..

I wouldn't mind getting a copyof those sliders Skaut if you can remember the name of them

Ownagedood
11-12-2008, 04:21 PM
I have found they hit an abnormal amount of 3's, I just played the Hawks and Smith scorched me for 19 Points on 9-10 Shooting, Bibby went crazy as well and scored like 4-6 from 3 Land when i tryed to sag of and double team down low..

I wouldn't mind getting a copyof those sliders Skaut if you can remember the name of them

Ya it can get kinda crazy. If you mess with them and experiment you can usually find a pretty realistic game play.. That's what i have done with mine.. It's much better to change the sliders.

bellisimo
11-12-2008, 06:45 PM
I've changed my sliders using this guide...

http://www.operationsports.com/forums/nba-2k-sliders/273918-nba-2k9-sliders-authenticity-real-gets.html

it has gotten a bit better but i have to lower the success rates a bit more cause when i play 12min QTs the score is still around 140...

GO!!!!!
11-12-2008, 07:03 PM
thanks for that like B, would it work for 6Min Quarts too ?

bellisimo
11-13-2008, 07:41 AM
if you want realistice 12 mins stats from 6 min QTs...then maybe you might need to adjust it a bit more...? not sure...only tried it with 12 mins so far...

Ownagedood
11-13-2008, 08:12 PM
I've changed my sliders using this guide...

http://www.operationsports.com/forums/nba-2k-sliders/273918-nba-2k9-sliders-authenticity-real-gets.html

it has gotten a bit better but i have to lower the success rates a bit more cause when i play 12min QTs the score is still around 140...
Nice, thx, ill try it out.

pwee31
11-14-2008, 02:11 PM
Loving the Live 365 feature on Live 09!

How exactly does it work? Are players rating changing and becoming higher?

Just curious what happens after games have been played

Trader Joe
11-16-2008, 04:40 PM
Yeah, the comp has a ridiculously high success rate on threes it is really frustrating. I've gotten a lot better over the past week, but I've had to put in a little bit more work than I would like to on a bball video game.