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Unclebuck
07-14-2008, 08:20 AM
Billy Packer always annoyed me. Just his arrogant style rubbed me the wrong way. With Clark replacing him, I might actually watch a college game or two.

Great move by CBS

http://blogs.usatoday.com/gameon/2008/07/report-billy-pa.html?loc=interstitialskip


Report: Billy Packer is out at CBS
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The Miami Herald is reporting that veteran college basketball commentator Billy Packer is out at CBS, and will be replaced by studio analyst Clark Kellogg.

Packer has announced 34 consecutive Final Fours, and has been with CBS for 28 consecutive seasons. The Herald says the dismissal has been confirmed by network representative Leslie Anne Wade.

Packer drew criticism during last season's NCAA tournament when he declared "This game is over" as Kansas went ahead of North Carolina by 38-12 in a Final Four semifinal. That comment was seen as an invitation for viewers to change the channel, and began fueling rumors that Packer -- never a stranger to controversy -- was on his way out.

But Packer stood by his call in an interview with USA TODAY's Michael Hiestand, saying:

"My job is to say what I see, not have some kind of subconscious feelings about offending anybody . . . It probably annoyed some people, but I don't concern myself with having some agenda that's contrary to what I'm seeing."

The Herald reports Packer confirmed the move through a CBS official but declined further comment.

Packer began his broadcast career at NBC, working with Curt Gowdy, Dick Enberg and Al McGuire before joining CBS in 1981. He had been paired with Jim Nantz since 1991.

Kellogg, 47, joined ESPN in 1990 and has been with CBS since 1993.

Vince Neil
07-14-2008, 08:30 AM
:dance:

Kegboy
07-14-2008, 08:37 AM
You do realize that Packer called maybe 1 game a week.

I don't see the reason to celebrate. He'll go to ESPN now and do three times as many games. Plus, this means Clark will probably do even less Pacers games.

count55
07-14-2008, 08:37 AM
Huge improvement...good for Clark.

Unclebuck
07-14-2008, 08:46 AM
You do realize that Packer called maybe 1 game a week.

I don't see the reason to celebrate. He'll go to ESPN now and do three times as many games. Plus, this means Clark will probably do even less Pacers games.

I doubt ESPN hired Packer.

Kegboy
07-14-2008, 08:53 AM
I doubt ESPN hired Packer.

You think the network that literally had Stuart Scott, Bill Walton and Stephen A. in the same studio together won't hire someone annoying?

Doddage
07-14-2008, 08:53 AM
I'm a fan of Clark and always enjoy our road games on TV more since he does color commentary. He definitely knows his basketball.

Unclebuck
07-14-2008, 08:56 AM
You think the network that literally had Stuart Scott, Bill Walton and Stephen A. in the same studio together won't hire someone annoying?

ESPN thinks they are young and hip, Packer is neither. I just don't see them hiring a re-tread

Robertmto
07-14-2008, 09:05 AM
Mmmmmmmman to man

FrenchConnection
07-14-2008, 09:35 AM
Mmmmmmmman to man

If I'm not mistaken, that's Bill Raftery. Billy Packer doesn't have a catch phrase or any type of recognizable shtick. That is, of course, besides being a schmuck.

Robertmto
07-14-2008, 09:37 AM
If I'm not mistaken, that's Bill Raftery. Billy Packer doesn't have a catch phrase or any type of recognizable shtick. That is, of course, besides being a schmuck.

well i guess i hate them both?

Bball
07-14-2008, 10:04 AM
I'm with Kegboy. Look for Packer to make his way to ESPN.

-Bball

RomanGabriel
07-14-2008, 10:24 AM
Good for CK. Packer was one of those guys who was arrogant with no gravitas to back it up, yet he did amuse me.

avoidingtheclowns
07-14-2008, 11:03 AM
ESPN thinks they are young and hip, Packer is neither. I just don't see them hiring a re-tread

they brought in bob knight for their march madness studio coverage and paired him with a guy named digger - hardly young and hip. i wouldn't put it passed ESPN to shove packer out on the road with steve lavin & co.

JayRedd
07-14-2008, 11:17 AM
Billy Packer is the worst thing about March Madness. Please, sir, just stay off my TV.

Hopefully, the end result of this is more Gus Johnson. Also...Bill Raftery is fantastic. With the kiss.

Trader Joe
07-14-2008, 11:24 AM
Good one less person to drool all over the ACC all season.

obnoxiousmodesty
07-14-2008, 12:07 PM
Billy Packer is the worst thing about March Madness. Please, sir, just stay off my TV.

Hopefully, the end result of this is more Gus Johnson. Also...Bill Raftery is fantastic. With the kiss.
Agreed on all accounts. I'm ecstatic Packer is gone.

And Gus Johnson calls a great game. He really gets into it, which I appreciate. Raftery plays a fun role while imparting good information at times.

ABADays
07-14-2008, 01:01 PM
I miss Al McGuire. Rest asuured, Packer is going to be picked up by someone. He should probably join an "ACC network".

I have always been a fan of Clark. The guy worked hard after his career ended much too soon and it shows.

Kraut N Beer
07-14-2008, 03:58 PM
Packer might be picked up by ESPN and do more games than before, but at least the annoyance will be gone during both the Final 4 and at one of the more highly anticipated NCAA regions. Good riddance!

PR07
07-14-2008, 05:24 PM
I actually liked Billy Packer.

I can't stand Bill Raftery. He takes away from the game, and gets on all my nerves.

King Tuts Tomb
07-14-2008, 05:50 PM
Hooray! Good riddance, have fun calling high school games Billy.

Rafferty, on the other hand, is great. A little kiss! He used to do some first round NBA games on ESPN and I always enjoyed that.

PR07
07-14-2008, 07:44 PM
Raftery is a fraud. He's made his career saying stupid catch phrases in a funny voice. He offers nothing else. He's like the Stuart Scott of commentating except instead of saying "Boo-yah" and "Word to your mother", he says "...And the big guy with the kiss off the glass" in a stupid voice. Absolutely worthless.

King Tuts Tomb
07-14-2008, 08:38 PM
Aw you're just being hard on the guy. Rafferty's a solid basketball announcer who understands that 95% of the people who watch the games are only average basketball fans and only watch the tournament. He keeps it simple and stick mainly to pointing out zone and man to man, highlighting especially important moves, throwing out a catch-phrase or two and having some fun.

I understand, and appreciate, Billy Packer's deep understanding of the game and its intricacies, but he doesn't get the entertainment side of sports that makes it so popular. He ruins games with his negativity and dislike of certain players and teams.

Roaming Gnome
07-14-2008, 09:32 PM
bye bye Billy Paccker.

And good riddence.

ESPN can hire you because I don't watch ESPN at all.

clownskull
07-15-2008, 12:11 AM
aww, that's such a shame. no more billy. that breaks my heart. no more of his b.s.
he will be so dearly missed. well, ok i admit i'm not really a fan of his- in fact i can't stand that lousy putz. good riddance indeed!

DisplacedKnick
07-15-2008, 01:32 AM
Can't stand Packer. Never really bothered me that bad until - I think it was 2 years ago, the year George Mason made it to the Final 4 - he jumped all over the chair of the selection committee in a live interview at the end of the selection show for letting too many "non power conference schools" into the tournament. Then the mid-majors had the best tourney they'd had in a LONG time, pretty much validating the selection committee and showing Packer up. Of course that was never talked about.

Could never figure out how much of that was Billy being an idiot and how much was CBS wanting teams that would draw higher ratings. Anyway, until then I thought he was annoying. After that I couldn't stand him.