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SoupIsGood
06-26-2008, 11:47 PM
I'm thinking about moving there once I finish college. Anyone ever been? Impressions? Thoughts?

LoneGranger33
06-26-2008, 11:49 PM
Don't go.

SoupIsGood
06-26-2008, 11:50 PM
Why?

LoneGranger33
06-26-2008, 11:59 PM
I guess it depends on where, but do you like NYC?

SoupIsGood
06-27-2008, 12:05 AM
Never been.

I wouldn't really know where... could be anywhere. The progamme I'm looking at could stick me in a mountain village or Tokyo or somewhere in between. Both sound neat.

LoneGranger33
06-27-2008, 12:42 AM
It's not much different from here is what I hear. Just as bad in the city, just as nice in the country.

ViperVisor
06-27-2008, 01:46 AM
Food would scare me.

SoupIsGood
06-27-2008, 01:49 AM
Food scares me here too, though. Surely they sell frozen mixed veggies, rice, chicken, cottage cheese, and tea there right? That's about all really eat anymore. :)

grace
06-27-2008, 08:48 AM
My cousin was there for six months. I think he liked it well enough. He's moving to Arkansas soon. I think he'd probably rather be back in Japan.

317Kim
06-27-2008, 10:08 AM
Soup, does your friend still live there?

SoupIsGood
06-27-2008, 10:19 AM
I guess so. I haven't heard from him since HS.

Edit: Damn, I didn't even remember his name right when you asked that. I was thinking Nobu, but his name was Yuki. Weird how things change. We were palsies. (And by that I mean we were buds, not that our bodies jittered involuntarily, lol.)

On the other hand, I know another Yuki, now. But she sports a different gender.

Japanese names are fun to say because they always rotate vowels and consonants. So cool.

JayRedd
06-27-2008, 11:14 AM
It's not much different from here is what I hear. Just as bad in the city, just as nice in the country.

You reckon it's as nice as New Jersey? That's hard to believe.

PacerPete
06-27-2008, 11:21 AM
It's different. I enjoyed it.

Rambling observations:

Sign at the airport -- "Welcome to Tokyo. Obey all the rules"
It is not a multi-cultural place. Even Tokyo has very few foreigners. They seem to have this drive to perform that says "we're all in this together." Every man in the office wears a dark blue suit. Tokyo is busy, smoggy, and VERY CLEAN. Cab drivers wear uniforms with hats and white gloves. They smoke like chimneys, but you'll never see a butt on the street. Hydrangeas grow out of the sidewalks.

They are extraordinarily honest. I was "chided" for having a lock on my bag. The subways are very efficient and clean, but crowded. It's expensive. Zoning is weird -- a residence next to a restaurant next to an office building. They're almost all pretty thin, but it's not a sign of health. They eat a lot of fish and rice, but few vegetables and fruit. I saw a lot of bad teeth. One of my favorite memories is that I saw a cantalope in a hotel grocery for $8. Forget meat. You can order a dish in a restaurant with or without meat, but it's only about a forkful's difference. I did manage to go to an international chain BBQ place and got ribs and fries for $50.

They're very polite. They like Americans, but some don't. The food is ahhhhh, interesting. You can get a pizza, but you better like squid. There are some "American" restaurants, but they are modified to fit Japanese tastes, sort of like what we do with ethnic restaurants here.

It's crowded. I never told them about my cars and big house and yard. They might have thought I was making it up. They live in teeny apartments. Vehicles there are small, in fact everything seems downsized, even trucks. There are great gardens and mini forests throughout the city, some hundreds of years old. Many people speak English; I believe it is a requirement in their schools.

Lots of Toyotas & Mercedes, even Porsches. Possibly more German cars per capita than any city outside of Germany, in a city where many people don't own cars. I wasn't there long enough to comment on the weather. Be on guard for uhhhh subtle differences in how things are done. I know a guy who was using a urinal when a cleaning woman came in and cleaned the urinal next to his.

In the 3 weeks I was there I saw a report in the paper on a guy arrested for a white collar crime. He was tried, convicted, and sent to prison before I left. In fact, I cannot recall hearing about even ONE other case of any kind of crime while I was there. It's a big city. All in all, an unforgettable experience. The people are really likeable.

SoupIsGood
06-27-2008, 11:28 AM
Thanks, Pete.

I'd heard about their weird pizzas before. Corn, squid, you name it. :laugh: As Feisty would say, "That's some weird-azz pizza!"

idioteque
06-28-2008, 11:14 PM
I could never live in Japan. People there are waaay too about obeying all the rules. I mean, if you can stand to be a massive conformist, go for it, but it seems to me to be a culture in which room for expression is not allowed. I'm sure there are exceptions however. And second, I don't know if they have League Pass available.

Getting a work permit to any foreign country is a pain in the ***. I am working on it, believe me.

But I'm a dirty hippie, so whatever.

Plus, every American I ever knew who moved to Japan did it because of an obsession for Japanese girls.

Suaveness
06-29-2008, 12:58 AM
It's my biggest dream to go to Japan. But sadly I haven't.

Is there a reason why you'd move there?

Isaac
06-29-2008, 02:10 AM
Hong Kong is a million times cooler.

PacerPete
06-29-2008, 01:38 PM
I could never live in Japan. People there are waaay too about obeying all the rules. I mean, if you can stand to be a massive conformist, go for it, but it seems to me to be a culture in which room for expression is not allowed. I'm sure there are exceptions however.

This is exactly right. Not very much innovation, although some would mention electronics. They mostly imitate and improve, low R&D costs.

SoupIsGood
06-30-2008, 11:59 PM
I don't think of myself as a massive conformist, but I'm pretty sure I could deal with it. Thanks for the responses, everyone.

Someone asked I think--I'm thinking about going there to teach English. Possibly. It hinges on whether I think I'd be a good teacher at all, and on whether I get into any great grad schools after Butler.

Mourning
07-01-2008, 12:34 PM
Food would scare me.

Japanese in general are obsessed with "fresh" food and dairy, so I wouldn't worry about bad food. The Japanese kitchen on top of that is pretty tasty, but offcourse tastes differ.

SoupIsGood
07-01-2008, 12:38 PM
It's my biggest dream to go to Japan. But sadly I haven't.



Hey, I missed this first time around. I ask: Why? to both statements.





Plus, every American I ever knew who moved to Japan did it because of an obsession for Japanese girls.


:laugh: I suppose they are kinda cute?

317Kim
07-01-2008, 12:40 PM
I guess so. I haven't heard from him since HS.

Edit: Damn, I didn't even remember his name right when you asked that. I was thinking Nobu, but his name was Yuki. Weird how things change. We were palsies. (And by that I mean we were buds, not that our bodies jittered involuntarily, lol.)

On the other hand, I know another Yuki, now. But she sports a different gender.

Japanese names are fun to say because they always rotate vowels and consonants. So cool.

Wow. Yeah, I knew you two were buddies.

I remember you saying that you were going to keep in touch via e-mails.

SoupIsGood
07-01-2008, 12:42 PM
Yep. He never replied to any of them. :grumble:

Reports from the area though were that he got into his preferred college, so that's good.

317Kim
07-01-2008, 12:44 PM
Yep. He never replied to any of them. :grumble:

Reports from the area though were that he got into his preferred college, so that's good.

Yessir. I'm sorry that things didn't work out though.

SoupIsGood
07-01-2008, 12:46 PM
Yeah. From what I could tell, though, he cut off communication w/ anyone + everyone from back in America, so at least it's not like he secretly hated me or something. :)

317Kim
07-01-2008, 12:49 PM
True. Maybe it was too much to keep in touch with everyone. :shrug:

Japan, huh? My boyfriend and I were talking about Vietnam...you know just to see how it'd be to live there. We'd be filthy freaking rich if we did.

SoupIsGood
07-01-2008, 12:58 PM
Vietnam? That'd be interesting. Do you have any family there at all?

317Kim
07-01-2008, 01:01 PM
My dad recently went to Vietnam to get married. His wife lives there. I could honestly say that I don't even know her. We've spoken once or twice, but that was it.

So, I guess I have my stepmother's family, my great uncle and his family, and my godparents.

ABADays
07-01-2008, 04:23 PM
Keywords: expensive, expensive, expensive.

btowncolt
07-01-2008, 04:27 PM
I've heard that Japanese people live there.

Bball
07-01-2008, 06:08 PM
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Mourning
07-01-2008, 06:51 PM
I feel dirty after watching that! Thx, Bball :puke:




;)

duke dynamite
07-01-2008, 06:58 PM
I would assume that the media blows up Japan to be this futuristic lovely techy place, at least the cities.

If you feel you can adapt to their cultures and what-not. Do it.

idioteque
07-03-2008, 06:29 PM
This is exactly right. Not very much innovation, although some would mention electronics. They mostly imitate and improve, low R&D costs.

I'm talking about social regulations/norms. Jesus.

PacerPete
07-03-2008, 09:50 PM
I'm talking about social regulations/norms. Jesus.

Uhhhh, yeah.

Gyron
07-07-2008, 11:44 AM
I'm talking about social regulations/norms. Jesus.

Based on my recollection of stories in the bible, I don't think Jesus was Japonese, but hey, I could really be wrong.

Maybe he left there because that Bhudda guy already had a lock on the religion market there.

idioteque
07-07-2008, 07:33 PM
I meant it as a reflection of being exhausted, like someone would groan "Jesus" when leaving Btowns basement. No one outside of Japan had anything to do with that country until 1867 or something I think.

I always thought the Buddha was born in Nepal.

duke dynamite
07-07-2008, 07:56 PM
I meant it as a reflection of being exhausted, like someone would groan "Jesus" when leaving Btowns basement. No one outside of Japan had anything to do with that country until 1867 or something I think.

I always thought the Buddha was born in Nepal.
Lumbini. Which is in Nepal.

rexnom
07-07-2008, 10:20 PM
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