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Hicks
06-15-2008, 10:50 AM
Greetings all,

As you know, the PD Forum Awards include "Post of the Year" and "Thread of the Year".

Usually, the threads and posts submitted for nomination are few. And those that are remembered, are almost always off topic.

This thread is meant to improve both significantly, if it gets your help!

Here's the deal:

I think one of the problems with the these categories is by the time the awards get around, we tend to forget a lot of great stuff from over the past 11 or so months. This thread is meant to address that.

Next year, those two categories will become four categories. A Pacers-related, and an off topic edition of both Thread of the Year and Post of the Year.

What I'm asking of all of you is this:

Any time from now until I begin the awards for 2009, any time that you read a post or read a thread, off topic and also Pacers related, that you think is worthy of nomination for 2009, reference it here.

This is our memory thread, so that we don't forget. If this is a success, I will bring it back next year, too.

Please, leave us a link to the thread/post, the title of the thread, the poster who created the thread/post, and most importantly, a sentence or few telling us WHY it should be nominated in 2009.

DisplacedKnick
06-16-2008, 08:44 AM
I'll start with POY:

http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showpost.php?p=735127&postcount=1163

Random, Scattered Disturbed Thoughts thread posted by Gyron. I laughed for a LONG time reading this. Gyron says he can't take credit but he was the one who posted it.

Mourning
06-16-2008, 01:30 PM
Haha, that was good, yeah :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Unclebuck
06-17-2008, 10:35 AM
The Donaghy thread -


http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showthread.php?t=39566

started by boombaby31

Pig Nash
06-21-2008, 12:39 PM
Can I nominate The Wolf Game Threads as a whole for the OT thread of the year?

Hicks
06-21-2008, 03:33 PM
Individually, but not as a group.

JayRedd
06-21-2008, 04:13 PM
We all know what's winning that category anyway.

Natston
06-21-2008, 04:22 PM
We all know what's winning that category anyway.

IGNORE THIS THREAD: THE MOVIE?

Pig Nash
06-22-2008, 12:16 AM
I don't know jay, there are about 20 loyal wolf game players, and a bunch of people that would vote for it just so tct didn't win.

bellisimo
06-22-2008, 07:04 PM
the euro 2008 thread should definitely get a worthy mention with all its loyal fans and the lovely photos ;)

Hicks
06-22-2008, 07:24 PM
You guys need to provide links and who posted or created the thread to reference what you want to nominate. I really don't care to dig through the archives come April 2009 to do it. Thanks.

JayRedd
06-22-2008, 09:01 PM
I don't know jay, there are about 20 loyal wolf game players, and a bunch of people that would vote for it just so tct didn't win.

Those people aren't Wolf Game Players. They are counters with some free time.

Naptown_Seth
06-25-2008, 10:17 AM
Those people aren't Wolf Game Players. They are counters with some free time.
Yeah, at the numbers they are up to now it takes awhile for them to finish the ciphering for what number comes next. Plus it fries their brain so they take a break and pretend they are flesh-hungry animals rather than syrup-hungry animal-lovers.

Oh hats, so quirky.



IGNORE THIS THREAD: THE MOVIE?
I agree. Need to link it up for the official nom.

Los Angeles
06-26-2008, 11:31 AM
JO Trade Thread (so far covering from first rumor to draft night):

http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showthread.php?t=39769

Naptown_Seth
06-30-2008, 12:06 PM
POY nom from Bball

http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showpost.php?p=747877&postcount=6

Kegboy
07-04-2008, 11:05 PM
Is it too late to nominate this:

http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showpost.php?p=587678&postcount=22

(If only we'd had this thread last year...:cry: )

JayRedd
07-04-2008, 11:57 PM
I preferred the Little Rascals one.

Naptown_Seth
07-08-2008, 01:07 AM
Magic Rat comes strong, referencing DD saying his stuff is pixelated....tears man.
http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showpost.php?p=753428&postcount=52

btowncolt
07-18-2008, 01:51 PM
http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showthread.php?t=40423

Has some thread of the year potential right now, but let's see how things end up.

JayRedd
07-19-2008, 04:06 PM
Yup.

http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showpost.php?p=760651&postcount=55

Naptown_Seth
07-21-2008, 02:59 AM
Short and sweet Foster joke by old LG33
http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showpost.php?p=760734&postcount=17


http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showthread.php?t=40423

Has some thread of the year potential right now, but let's see how things end up.
"Not a Redickulous thought" is begging to be in my sig/avy somehow. Definitely going to invoke that to back up some of my future opinions. "Pacers getting the 4th seed? Not a Redickulous thought", etc.

Anthem
07-31-2008, 10:54 PM
Post of the Year:

http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showthread.php?p=767245#post767245

Naptown_Seth
08-04-2008, 06:41 PM
Tom White comes strong against Hoopsworld
http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showpost.php?p=768420&postcount=27


The writer would then have to have some kind of inside information. From what I have seen of the writing on Hoopsworld, I doubt the writer even has any outside information.

Los Angeles
08-07-2008, 01:28 PM
An early entry for basketball post of the year:

http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showpost.php?p=769494&postcount=102

LoneGranger33
08-07-2008, 09:21 PM
I think there should be a special award this year for best nickname. You know, like how some people call Naptime Seth by his chosen name.

JayRedd
09-06-2008, 06:57 PM
MrsParko's superb take on the why it doesn't matter if we continue to call Dat Dude by his chosen moniker or the by out-dated Jermainiac will be getting my vote.

http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showpost.php?p=778769&postcount=41

Hicks
09-06-2008, 07:49 PM
MrsParko's superb take on the why it doesn't matter if we continue to call Dat Dude by his chosen moniker or the by out-dated Jermainiac will be getting my vote.

http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showpost.php?p=778769&postcount=41

What does Jermainiac have to do with that post?

rexnom
09-25-2008, 01:24 AM
http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showpost.php?p=783566&postcount=2

MrSparko on the Bucks new uniforms and a controversial stance on universal politics?

RamBo_Lamar
09-30-2008, 10:18 AM
POY OT Nominee

http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showpost.php?p=783091&postcount=58


pacertom's explanation of what "PFFL" means.


:grinyes:

grace
10-05-2008, 02:35 PM
I'm not sure it's a POY nom, but it made me laugh.

http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showthread.php?t=41566


Former Pacer shoots and misses his target...teammates injured. More at 11.

rexnom
10-09-2008, 10:04 AM
I liked the "Everyone Do Yourselves a Favor..." thread. Although it ended going WAY off topic, we got to the bottom of Portland's draft success and what is a good team-draft strategy. Additionally, we had some of the more fruitful Bayless/Rush discussions of this off-season.

http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showthread.php?t=41624

kester99
10-17-2008, 09:22 PM
Putnam waxes poetical in his praise of Hibbert:

http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showthread.php?t=41810

count55
11-16-2008, 09:16 PM
Anthem for violating the prohibition on perspective and reasonableness.

http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showthread.php?p=792632#post792632

Robertmto
11-17-2008, 09:05 PM
Anthem for violating the prohibition on perspective and reasonableness.

http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showthread.php?p=792632#post792632

it's like i'm stuck in the ****in Matrix

and i CAN'T STOP CLICKING

count55
11-17-2008, 09:37 PM
it's like i'm stuck in the ****in Matrix

and i CAN'T STOP CLICKING

OK...don't know how the **** that happened, but try this one:


http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showpost.php?p=807950&postcount=62

Putnam
11-26-2008, 03:43 PM
Detailed, cogent, thorough: Count55's reply to the absurd question about replacing Coach O'Brien:

http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showpost.php?p=812508&postcount=21

Raskolnikov
11-27-2008, 06:36 AM
Newman going absolutely mental in the NBA Random Thoughts thread.

http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showpost.php?p=811399&postcount=348

rexnom
12-03-2008, 07:35 PM
Putnam applauding Peck's idea and questioning his grammar at the same time.

http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showpost.php?p=815361&postcount=175

Jose Slaughter
12-10-2008, 02:29 AM
So, What does a draft pick get ya? (Part 1)

by Count 55

post of the year.

http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showthread.php?t=43009

Pig Nash
12-10-2008, 07:45 PM
seconded.

count55
01-04-2009, 10:12 AM
Thread of the Year:

"Today in Pacer History"

Jose Slaughter

http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showthread.php?t=43529

Unclebuck
01-13-2009, 09:39 AM
This post by Count55 is post of the year.

http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showthread.php?p=834420#post834420


My opinion is that he needs smarter players. Or, at least, players who have better judgment. It seems to me that the players are working the system almost to a fault. In some ways, it's like watching my son's third grade team play. You work over and over to teach them something, then, in a game, they follow it to T, but they lack any instinct to adjust to the flow of the situation.

Now, that is not to say that these players are stupid. In fact, I think it's an indictment of the system. The team is constantly forced to overthink, and two things happen: 1. they are too slow reacting, leaving them scrambling, and 2. The decisions are too erratic, creating a domino effect of guesses and scrambling. On any "bad" play, you're likely to see 2 or 3 guys making reasonable decisions that end up burning us because they don't mesh. (As example, I cite the Joe Johnson 3 in the last ATL game.). I also believe this is the main reason that you and many others (including me) can watch the defense and not be able to tell what the **** they are doing and what went wrong.

This a defense that Derrick McKey could excel in, but Artest would be a disaster.

Added to this confusion is the noted lack of athleticism of our big men. Foster is relatively quick, but he can't erase mistakes at the rim. Hibbert and Rasho are average shot blockers if they are in position, but they struggle to get in position...Rasho due to slow foot speed, Hibbert (IMO) because he lacks the instincts to read the play at this time. I think Murph's a decent player, and he certainly gives what he can, but he's just slow and weak.

This is also why I think McBob tends to look so effective. He's got Foster's quickness, but has much better hops. In this system, with this personnel, he's going to have a lot of opportunities to make plays. The one risk with playing him more would be his inexperience creating more bad decisions. (A risk I consider well worth taking.)

So now you've got a deadly combination of players who don't fully understand the system, don't really know each other, and lack the athleticism to cover there mistakes. The frustration goes, the trust declines, and players get more and more out of position, because they don't know where to go, and don't know where their teammates will be.

Now, here is where I think the coaching staff is failing. They keep pushing the system they're trying to run, rather than adjusting and simplifying for the personnel. It's the classic failing of an ideologue. If it is working, it's because they didn't believe hard enough...the players didn't follow their assignments well enough. They simply refuse to believe that their faith could be wrong.

Now, there are people who will say that Obie isn't interested in defense. I reject that out of hand, and I believe that I've provided ample historical evidence that his previous teams played defense, and played it well.

However, his offensive system, as Bball has pointed out, is at the least putting additional pressure on the D. At worst, it's doing serious harm to it. However, I also think the offensive system itself is being exaggerated by the defensive woes. With no faith in getting stops, the team feels more urgency to score in bunches, which results in more and more possessions and more errors, putting more pressure on the D. All the while, the players go faster and scramble more, sapping energy reserves, resulting in less efficiency at both ends. We have become a snake eating its own tail.

To this point, I have felt that O'Brien has done more good than harm with this team. They compete pretty much every night, and they have rarely thrown in the towel.

However, this issue has reached the point in the last couple of weeks where I consider Obie to be hurting the team. It's not about play calling or substitutions (though I consider the McBob exile a potentially serious error). It's that he's not adapting the defensive system, and it's hurting the players. (I think Rush is a particular victim.)

I believe he needs to play them more straight up. Everybody *****ed about the defense that Jack played on Kobe's game winner, but I would submit that if we played defense like that all season long, we might possibly be over .500 at this point. Call it the NBA version of the bend but don't break defense. We're going to give up points with this personnel, but we can do better than what we're doing.

This, in turn, will allow us to slow the offens down a little. I don't advocate snail ball, because we don't have the half court weapons. However, if we just show a little more patience, I think we can remain potent while becoming more efficient at both ends.

Now, it's possible that a year together will make this defense better. However, since we don't have a championship quality roster, we should assume a continued state of turnover. If Obie cannot make the system more easily digestible for new players, then he will no longer have any utility in my mind.

duke dynamite
01-13-2009, 10:11 AM
Thread of the Year:

"Today in Pacer History"

Jose Slaughter

http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showthread.php?t=43529
TPH FTW!!!

count55
01-14-2009, 10:19 AM
I think you can remove Buck's nomination for my post earlier, because imawhat just buries it with these two:

http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showpost.php?p=834684&postcount=60

http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showpost.php?p=834692&postcount=62

And while I'm still a huge fan of Jose's thread, the thread itself should get nominated just on the sheer depth of substance. I have never seen anything like it on any board.

http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showthread.php?t=43859

"OK, I've been banging my head against the tv" (Thread starter: Peck)

wintermute
01-14-2009, 10:53 AM
And while I'm still a huge fan of Jose's thread, the thread itself should get nominated just on the sheer depth of substance. I have never seen anything like it on any board.

http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showthread.php?t=43859

"OK, I've been banging my head against the tv" (Thread starter: Peck)

seconded. lots of great posts in there.

ChicagoJ
01-23-2009, 02:47 PM
Bball with the best one-liner I've seen in a long time:

http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showpost.php?p=839533&postcount=5

RamBo_Lamar
02-08-2009, 06:34 AM
Thread of the Year:

"Today in Pacer History"

Jose Slaughter

http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showthread.php?t=43529


Agreed. I was just getting on here to nominate Jose's thread only to see
that it has already been rightfully nominated.

Some of this historical information he keeps digging up is nothing short of
amazing.

An absolutely outstanding ongoing effort by Jose Slaughter!!!

Putnam
02-23-2009, 03:51 PM
Does Murphy steal rebounds from his teammates? Does Murphy get his share of hard rebounds? Does Murphy work for the good of the team, or just to pad his stats and trigger a performance clause in his contract?

While everyone else was arguing, MagicRat went to work and edited every Murphy rebound from the Pacers/Bulls game, giving us actual evidence to argue with. We learned more from a one-minute video than we ever learned in school.

http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showpost.php?p=855524&postcount=136




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sweabs
03-02-2009, 08:20 AM
From the counting thread, courtesy of the chosen one:



51950

Don't live through me Heywoode, experience it WITH me, oh wait you have a family and responsiblities. Never mind.

Major Cold
04-23-2009, 11:23 AM
http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showpost.php?p=877733&postcount=869

Count55's response to an absurd generalizations.

Shade
04-23-2009, 04:18 PM
POTY nomination:


Mr Boyle,

You're going to have a difficult time convincing anyone within these walls that there should even be a debate.

Does the Hall include too many players? Perhaps. But the standard has been set, and narrowing the standard would be a mistake.

If the hall was called the "Hall of Statistics" then Reggie would be only one of many "very good" shooting guards just from his era. There's little to distinguish him from the pack.

Thankfully, it is not the "Hall of Statistics", it is the Hall of FAME.

I had one of those "Oh crap I'm surrounded by Lakers fans" conversations at Rick's Tavern in Santa Monica. This crowd was a bit older and scholarly and as the conversation went on, they could tell that I knew a bit about basketball. Inevitably, one of the guys asked me who "my team" was.

"Pacers," I said.

The response of one of the guys was remarkable. "Reggie Miller. One of the all-time greats. You were lucky to have so many great memories with that guy. I'm not even a fan, and his moments were some of my favorites all time." And that was that. Reggie miller, brought to you by an average guy wearing purple and gold.

Many memories fade, but reggie's memories for some reason stick not just with Indiana fans but with fans of the league as a whole.

Statistically, Reggie was merely "very good". However, as far as true fame goes, his legend is what matters here. Reggie is a Hall of Famer.

http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showpost.php?p=707556&postcount=18

Hicks
04-23-2009, 04:43 PM
Pretty sure that was before last years rewards, so it's ineligible.

Shade
04-23-2009, 05:37 PM
Bah, didn't see it was from last year. :dead:

DrBadd01
05-07-2009, 09:50 PM
Thread of the Year Nomination:

http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showthread.php?t=39278&highlight=Ignore+Thread

Post of the Year Nomination (non pacers related)

Post 1.
http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showthread.php?t=39278&highlight=Ignore+Thread

bellisimo
05-08-2009, 09:39 AM
if only there was something about motivational posters....hmmm...

ABADays
05-10-2009, 09:04 AM
I think there should be a special award this year for best nickname. You know, like how some people call Naptime Seth by his chosen name.

Wake up Seth :sleep:

naptownmenace
05-18-2009, 02:45 PM
http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showpost.php?p=877733&postcount=869

Count55's response to an absurd generalizations.

Seconded. Count's had a very good '09 season.

Hicks
05-18-2009, 03:00 PM
Too late. Awards are already going and nominations were last week. I'm surprised how many didn't follow up and officially nominate some of these. This thread was to help you remember, and most of you still didn't!

Los Angeles
05-18-2009, 03:35 PM
WAIT - I thought posting in here WAS nominating them. I assumed every post in here was already on the list. therefore not needed to be "doubled up" on the ballot.

Some of the posts in here even start out "I nominate ..."

I think you might want to reconsider your list. I doubt if I'm the only one that was misled by these circumstances.

Hicks
05-18-2009, 03:52 PM
*edit*

The intent was never to mislead or suggest that this was the place to nominate. The intent was to provide a space for people to note then as the year went along so they wouldn't for get TO nominate them when the time came. Sorry for any/all confusion.

Los Angeles
05-18-2009, 03:56 PM
OK, wrong word. Does confused work? I thought the purpose of this thread all year was to nominate posts as they came up.

My mistake.