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PacerGuy
05-20-2008, 10:19 AM
Could it be?
This thread might belong somewhere else, but because of the impact of the NBA Lotterey as it relates to the topic itself, I thought I would place it here. While I am not asking what WAS the biggest moment (Sucessful lottery to "Keep the Pacers", Colts moving to town, Making the NBA Finals, winning the Super Bowl - all top that list!), I think today has the potential to "economically & status-wise" top all of those!
While most on the surface may not agree, but IMO today is likely the BIGGEST single Sports day in our city's history! Today will help shape the landscape of sports, and much more, in this city FOREVER!!!
Why you ask?:
Reason 1: Today, he city will find out if we are awarded the 2012 Super Bowl, a mark of pride & respect in the sporting community, and a possible 350 million- 500 million economic impact it will bring. It will bring weeks of focus and attention to this city and will showcase us to the world, possibly bringing many new business opportunities here.
Reason 2: The NBA Lottery is tonight. While I expect many of you to immediately blow this off, let me explain. Getting a break (a Top 3 pick) tonight could be the first step to rebuilding this team back to one this city will support. It was not that long ago this city had to have a lottery to save the Pacer franchise here. Having an NBA team, & the label of being a "major league city" is what helped us land the Colts here years later (& the opportunity of hosting a Super Bowl now!). The support a top pick brings will hopefully stop the bleeding the team is suffering & help secure their place here in this city for years to come. It also affects the WNBA's Fever, & the viability of Conseco Fieldhouse itself. If the Pacers could "hit big", & bring a "star", the impact there is unmeasurable. How much $$$ did MJ bring Chicago/ does LeBron bring Cleveland? Look what "hitting the lottery" did for San Antonio! Think T.Duncan & the 3 NBA Championships (& counting) have brought that city any economic benefit? Darn right it has!!!

Basketball Fan
05-20-2008, 10:32 AM
First off its 4 titles for Duncan

Second it has not brought that much economic benefit there are times where its not even sold out. Then again San Antonio is a very small market, smaller than Indy and this is the only attraction in town.


Indy has the Pacers vs Colts here for the most part.

And there's no way Stern ever wants this franchise to sniff a title not after that infamous brawl and the many run ins with the law of our players.

naptownmenace
05-20-2008, 10:50 AM
And there's no way Stern ever wants this franchise to sniff a title not after that infamous brawl and the many run ins with the law of our players.

That's the most ridiculous conspiracy theory regarding the Pacers I've ever read.

If the Pacers were to turn the franchise around and make a run at a title in the near future, we'd be the feel good story of the year. Stern and the media love it when a franchise that was formally good reemerges as a title contender. Look at Chicago last year or Portland this year.

Everyone loves a comeback story. And if the Pacers could somehow turn things around because of a top 3 draft pick, they'd have one of the most compelling turn around stories of all-time.


Back on topic.

A #1 draft pick would potentially revitalize the franchise and the fan base. Look no further than the impact the #1 draft pick had on the Colts for an example of how it would affect Indianapolis.

Twes
05-20-2008, 11:17 AM
Not since the Bender pick have we seen this kind of impact on the team. :D

It IS a big day. I think the superbowl is great for the city. Indianapolis has come a long way in the 15 years I've lived here.

I too am anxious to hear the announcement this afternoon.

Jared Jammer
05-20-2008, 11:23 AM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/peter_king/05/16/mmqb/3.html


I think the worst-kept secret in the NFL is that Indianapolis will get the 2012 Super Bowl when owners meet in Atlanta this week. Indy deserves it. The city lost the 2011 game to Dallas, 17 votes to 15, and there's always been a strong feeling toward new stadiums in cities that have enough hotel rooms and are weatherproof. All domed stadiums in northern cities eventually get one Super Bowl. It happened at the Metrodome, the Silverdome and Ford Field, and the Colts are in line to get the first one ever played in Indiana.

PacerGuy
05-20-2008, 11:38 AM
Originally NOT Posted by Peter King:
I think the worst-kept secret in the NBA is that Indiana will get the 2008 #1 Overall Lottery Pick when lottery teams meet in New York tonight. Indy deserves it. The city lost the 2007 pick to Atlanta, and there's always been a strong feeling toward Larry Bird, and cities that have enough Small Forwards and Arrest Records. All doomed NBA cities eventually get one Number 1 pick. It happened at the San Antonio, Cleveland and Portland, and the Pacers are in line to get the first number one pick ever in Indiana.

I like this article even better!!! :happydanc

;)

Kegboy
05-20-2008, 11:39 AM
:laugh:

Dr. Goldfoot
05-20-2008, 11:43 AM
When you consider the Indy 500 and Brickyard 400 I'd say no. The only thing that rivals any one of the 120+ races ( including F1) would be the SB victory in a historical, economical, attendance, or attention bestowed upon our fair city sense. I also forgot to mention things like NCAA finals etc....

Although actually hosting the SB will go to the top of that list.

Dr. Goldfoot
05-20-2008, 11:47 AM
I probably should have read the whole post before opening my mouth. I still say hosting the SB once doesn't mean squat to hosting all the races every year.

Basketball Fan
05-20-2008, 11:47 AM
That's the most ridiculous conspiracy theory regarding the Pacers I've ever read.

If the Pacers were to turn the franchise around and make a run at a title in the near future, we'd be the feel good story of the year. Stern and the media love it when a franchise that was formally good reemerges as a title contender. Look at Chicago last year or Portland this year.

Everyone loves a comeback story. And if the Pacers could somehow turn things around because of a top 3 draft pick, they'd have one of the most compelling turn around stories of all-time.


Back on topic.

A #1 draft pick would potentially revitalize the franchise and the fan base. Look no further than the impact the #1 draft pick had on the Colts for an example of how it would affect Indianapolis.




Based on what? We aren't a big market like the Knicks, Bulls, Celtics or Lakers. Nor do we have a star that would trump a small market (Oden) for Portland.

Or Lebron James for the Cavs.


He'll care if they Pacers sell out but not if they're in the elite that is only reserved for big market teams.

Naptown_Seth
05-20-2008, 12:02 PM
Look no further than the impact the #1 draft pick had on the Colts for an example of how it would affect Indianapolis

Yeah, after Entman it all turned around.


Goldfoot - agree. I don't think people realize the kind of impact the F1 was potentially having. Sure Americans didn't care, but if you went to an F1 you know how many international visitors it brought in. I think that's a much bigger deal. It wasn't just foreigners currently living here, it was people taking the trip from Europe or up from Mexico/SA. Every year we met people from out of the country.

And on top of that they all praised the ease of getting to and from the race compared to other venues. That was having a huge image impact. These people didn't care that the city wasn't Monoco because for most of them that stuff is out of their reach anyway. Indy made it much easier to get involved with the action without breaking the bank. So they have fun and want to return, and while the city certainly fell into the quaint image for them they liked it enough to want to return.

The SB will be a financial bump, but as sports talk has already pointed out you better get ready for the snobby backlash on the city's size and lack of fun. This isn't Miami, New Orleans or LA and we are going to hear about it.



Biggest day? Well there have been 500's and Pacers playoff games on the same day, and there have been monster ECF/500 weekends in the past.

Also for INDY I'd say the AFC CG was way bigger than the SB win. It was beating the Pats that was the hump, and it was held in town too. Had the Colts lost the SB it would have been a disaster, but winning it was expected/given after beating NE.

count55
05-20-2008, 12:10 PM
Well, people will always argue "biggest", but if we land the SuperBowl and the #1, it'd be a pretty damn good day.

Hell, if we land one or the other, it'll be pretty nice.

maragin
05-20-2008, 01:39 PM
Not that it was bigger, but this did make me reminisce a bit about the '87 Pan Am games.

Putnam
05-20-2008, 02:41 PM
Goldfoot is right. (And he oughtta know: he's in 3 bands.)

Nothing equals the annul month of May boost. The estimates of how a Super Bowl will boost the city's economy ignore the fact that the same hotels that will sell out for Super Bowl week would be 2/3rds full anyway, and that much of the revenue from ticket sales with be shared by the NFL -- not kept by Indianapolis.

The biggest sports day (economy-wise) in Indianapolis is every single Memorial Day. We don't realize how lucky we are to have the Brickyard.



Well, people will always argue "biggest", but if we land the SuperBowl and the #1, it'd be a pretty damn good day.

Hell, if we land one or the other, it'll be pretty nice.


True, certainly. If we are going to fantasize, I also want Jermaine to announce on the 6:00 news today that he'll opt out and Jamaal to retire from basketball.

PacerFan31
05-20-2008, 02:52 PM
According to the Colts website WE GOT IT!!!

http://colts.com/sub.cfm?page=article7&news_id=0a08f188-bedc-4308-91d6-4e6505c21b02

grace
05-20-2008, 03:19 PM
Hello, let me introduce myself. I'm Miss Pessimistic and I'm here to bring everyone down.

I was listening to Mike Turico's radio show and they were talking about how Indianapolis would get the 2012 Super Bowl. Chris Mortensen was on talking about the mess that is coming when the NFL owners opt out of the existing contract. One of them said something like "There might not be a Super Bowl in 2012."

Sure that's probably an exaggeration, but now that Indy as won the bid my dark side/pessimistic soul says the city is doomed to lose millions on a Super Bowl that will never happen.

Have a good day. :wave:

duke dynamite
05-20-2008, 03:25 PM
http://www.nfl.com/news/story;jsessionid=B9D596C01F1DD63DFA152E37B1231552? id=09000d5d80869c8b&template=with-video&confirm=true

idioteque
05-20-2008, 04:21 PM
Winning the Superbowl is #1, and getting the bowl here and winning the ECF are close as well. It's all about championship play or hosting for me.

ABADays
05-20-2008, 04:39 PM
The Super Bowl and the Pan American Games would be tied for me.

lenin_fresh
05-21-2008, 02:38 AM
Anybody drive by the Blue Crew Bar and Grill today? They had that fire truck out with a banner congratulating the city for getting the game.

I didn't known the flasher lights on that were blue, haha.