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Will Galen
05-14-2008, 01:17 AM

Catching up with old friends in unfamiliar places
May 13, 2008

With the conclusion of the EuroLeague tournament (won by CSKA Moscow behind tournament MVP Trajan Langdon), it feels like a good time for a little update on our overseas connections. Some are ex-Pacers, some may be future Pacers and some are just relatively well-known to the fans in these parts.

FORMER PACERS Sarunas Jasikevicius Didn't exactly return to Europe as a conquering hero, starting just five of 20 games with Panthinaikos (Greece), though he did produce averages of 13.2 points and 2.9 assists.

Marcus Haislip One of the popular temps from the 2004-05 season has developed into a prominent player for Unijaca (Spain), averaging 13.7 points and 4.6 rebounds this past season. The most interesting stat is this: he hit .359 from the 3-point line. And no, that's not some kind of skewed metric conversion rate.

Travis Best Having already tried things in Russia, Italy and Poland, Best wound up in Bologna, Italy (La Fortezza), averaging 12.0 points and 3.2 assists. But here's the stat I'm having trouble with: he's 36 years old.

Keith McLeod He signed with Montepaschi Siena (Italy) in January but played just four games, averaging 14.2 minutes and 4.5 points.

Jamison Brewer After spending 2006-07 with Dexia Mons-Hainaut (Belgium), J.B. signed with the Hollywood Fame of the ABA, a franchise known mainly for its lineup of celebrity owners (including Nick Lachey, Stacy Keibler, John Salley and Brian Vickers). When the franchise ran into financial problems that would lead to its extinction, he signed with the Bakersfield Jam of the D-League in December, but appeared in just four games, shooting 4-of-17.

Orien Greene Though he opened the season as the Kings' starting point guard, he was released shortly thereafter and signed with Hapoel Jerusalem. He was waived again in November but found a home with the New Zealand Breakers, leading the National Basketball League (which includes Australia) in steals (2.9) as well as turnovers (4.6) while finishing second in the league in personal fouls (4.4). He averaged 14.1 points and 4.1 assists for the Breakers.

Carlos Rogers Surely you remember Carlos Rogers, who played 22 games in the 2001-02 season before, well, falling off the map. He resurfaced, of all places, on the TV show "Oprah's Big Give" recently, donating $1,000 to help two elementary schools in his hometown of Houston build playgrounds.

Zan Tabak After leaving the Pacers in 2001 to return to Europe, he retired in 2006 after spending four seasons in Spain.

Bruno Sundov Since leaving the Pacers in 2002, he has spent time in Israel, Belgium, Spain and Cyprus, most recently returning to Spain to play for Group Begar Leon.

Rawle Marshall Cut by Phoenix during the preseason, he wound up in the Adriatic League with KK Hemofarm of Serbia, averaging 15.7 points in 22 games.

Courtney Sims After spending the first month of the season on the yo-yo, appearing in three games in between numerous waivers and re-signings, the former Michigan standout wound up with the Iowa Energy of the D-League, averaging 21.9 minutes, 15.6 points and 6.4 rebounds in 16 games.

James White Cut by the Pacers in training camp in 2006, he didn't last long with the Spurs, either, winding up with Fenerbahce Ulker in Turkey, where he averaged 6.8 points and 2.9 rebounds in 21 games, including 11 starts. He writes a (very) occasional blog for Hoopshype.com (http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/white/index.php).

Lukasz Obrzut The Big Woo, released in training camp prior to this season, started with Fort Wayne but finished with Bakersfield in the D-League, averaging 3.1 points and 2.4 rebounds in 38 games.

POSSIBLE FUTURE PACERS Stanko Barac After signing a 5-year contract with Tau Ceramica, the slender 7-footer acquired after Miami drafted him No. 39 overall last year was loaned to Valencia (Spain), where he appeared in 29 games, averaging 5.6 puntos and 3.5 rebotes, according the team's Website, which I'll presume translates to points and rebounds.

Erazem Lorbek The 2005 second-round pick continues to play well in Europe, averaging 13.3 points and 5.6 rebounds while shooting .566 overall and .390 from the 3-point line for Lottomatica Roma (Italy).

OTHERS Bracey Wright The former Indiana University standout spent this past season in Greece, averaging 14.9 points while shooting .423 from the field for Aris TT Bank.

Vonteego Cummings The first-round pick traded to Golden State for the draft rights to Jeff Foster in 1999, Cummings played three years in the NBA (two for the Warriors, one in Philadelphia) before heading overseas, where he has remained since. He averaged 5.7 points and 2.6 assists with Maccabi Elite (Israel).

Drake Diener Travis' cousin, who played at DePaul averaged 1.8 points in nine games with Montepaschi Siena.


I wonder if Lorbek will be in training camp this year? I think it's about time.

duke dynamite
05-14-2008, 01:52 AM
Just got done reading through this.

Europe gets a lot of talent from the U.S. Of course they don't make it far here, but over there these guy's numbers are impressive.

I also wouldn't mind seeing What Ezarem can do now.

5.6 puntos and 3.5 rebotes


05-14-2008, 04:09 AM
I saw a lot of Orien plying in the NBL. he had a huge impact in the Breakers making the playoffs for the first time in their short history.

05-14-2008, 09:19 AM
Glad to hear Jasikevicius did fairly well as a supersub in Greece, and good to see he regained his shot with shooting percentages of 54% (2pt) and 41% (3pt).

I still wish he wasn't traded to the Warriors, he would have made a fine couple with Diener as our PG's.

Major Cold
05-14-2008, 09:35 AM
Glad to hear Jasikevicius did fairly well as a supersub in Greece, and good to see he regained his shot with shooting percentages of 54% (2pt) and 41% (3pt).

I still wish he wasn't traded to the Warriors, he would have made a fine couple with Diener as our PG's.

Travis would then be our defensive stopper that we have always needed. ;)

05-14-2008, 10:15 AM
Well at least you could put Dunleavy with Cabbage and maybe get the ball across half court.

Major Cold
05-14-2008, 10:17 AM
Jasi was good for a 4 year period. Unfortunately the end of that 4 year period was when we signed him.

05-14-2008, 10:23 AM
Morway was on Kravitz and Eddy yesterday. They asked him about their overseas scouting or scouting in general.

He said they have extensive scouting there, as does every team.

It'd be nice to have had an Anthony Parker instead of a done Cabbage.

I did hear they have Sabonis on their radar now as a potential guy. :)

tora tora
05-14-2008, 10:38 AM
They shouldn't have let Rawle go. :shakehead

05-14-2008, 11:11 AM
They shouldn't have let Rawle go. :shakehead

Best part is they kept Rawle and let James White go, turns out they should of saved the money and picks altogether.

Trader Joe
05-14-2008, 11:19 AM
In other news Jonathan Bender was at the Hornets-Spurs game sitting courtside last night according to Reggie during the broadcast.

05-14-2008, 11:25 AM
It is pretty amazing to see that pretty much all of them are still trying to prove themselves basketball-wise. But damn, that list is a who's who of scrubs.

Major Cold
05-14-2008, 11:38 AM
I wonder is Stanko is going to post in this thread!!!!

05-14-2008, 11:52 AM

Major Cold
05-14-2008, 12:01 PM
Simply the joy of the day.

05-14-2008, 12:06 PM

Dude is a trip-dub waiting to happen.

Story of my life. Where's the challenge?

05-14-2008, 12:08 PM
He does make some valid points though. BaracStar is definitely an improvement over David Harrison, though both are sure to be fan favorites.

Major Cold
05-14-2008, 12:12 PM
Erazem will get a shot before you Stanko. Just because of that large contract you just signed.

05-14-2008, 12:50 PM
That Cummings for Foster trade seemed to work out pretty well for us.

05-14-2008, 01:05 PM
What's funny is Stanko is by far the best 2nd round pick made in years by the team, just based on the entertainment value on PD alone!!

05-14-2008, 04:22 PM
That Cummings for Foster trade seemed to work out pretty well for us.

Well, it depends on how far you want to take it, because we also sent a future first (2001) that Golden State turned into Troy Murphy, who they eventually sent to us...so...I'm not sure where that leaves us, but since I'm basically confused...

Yeah, getting Foster worked out for us.