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Shade
06-10-2004, 05:23 PM
Why or why not?

Yeah, I know it's been discussed ad nauseum already, but I want to know what everyone's final decision would be if Orlando made this offer to us.

I'd offer up Ron and Freddie for T-Mac if necessary.

C - Foster/Pollard/Brezec
PF - O'Neal/Croshere
SF - Harrington/Bender
SG - McGrady/Miller/JJones
PG - Tinsley/Johnson/Brewer

:drool:

Hicks
06-10-2004, 05:28 PM
Since you said Ron I voted No, but I would still say yes if he's gone purely for off-court issues. Basketball-wise no I wouldn't.

Will Galen
06-10-2004, 05:34 PM
Why or why not?

I voted no. I wouldn't trade both Artest and Bender or Artest and Al for Tmac. The only one I would do, Artest and Fred, doesn't work.

ChicagoJ
06-10-2004, 05:44 PM
I'd do Artest and Bender, and of course I'd do Artest and Fred Jones.

I wouldn't do Artest and Harrington, unless a third team was involved (any why would Orlando want both of those guys if we can't find room for both?) and we received some extra compensation (next year's #1 or a legit backup to compliment Austin and Brent Barry :wishful thinking: ).

ChicagoJ
06-10-2004, 05:59 PM
I'd do Artest and Bender, and of course I'd do Artest and Fred Jones.

I wouldn't do Artest and Harrington, unless a third team was involved (any why would Orlando want both of those guys if we can't find room for both?) and we received some extra compensation (next year's #1 or a legit backup to compliment Austin and Brent Barry :wishful thinking: ).

Losing Ron and Al would make us WAY weak and unphysical up front. No
Ron and Bender yes. hate to lose Freddie, but yes.

That's my point, although I admittedly did a really bad job of explaining it. I do agree, we'd have to get back more than just T-Mac if the trade was Al + Ron, because if we traded them separately, we could conceivably get Dampier (or another center if you'd prefer) AND T-Mac.

MagicRat
06-10-2004, 06:11 PM
When this poll gets to 25 yeps and 1,654,165 nopes we'll know UB found the autoclick program Hicks used to rig the NBA.com polls a couple of years ago....... :P

Roaming Gnome
06-10-2004, 06:27 PM
Anytime I hear Ron's name come up in this deal, I just want to put my fist thru my monitor and chuck the CPU thru my front window!!!

I don't get it, the way I look at it, R.A. is guaranteed for 23 to 27 points per night. Let me explain before you think I am just a strait nut case. Ron can score 13 to 15 points a night, no sweat...yet, on top of that...he is good for knocking at least 10 points off the average for whoever he is guarding.

Ultimate Frisbee
06-10-2004, 06:32 PM
I voted NO!!!

I like McGrady, but Artest's contract makes him invaluable!!!

sweabs
06-10-2004, 07:21 PM
No.

Artest has to stay.

Suaveness
06-10-2004, 09:40 PM
I can't believe people are actually thinking about trading artest... :(

TheSauceMaster
06-10-2004, 10:11 PM
Oh let's give up our core defensive player for Offense , let's step backwards ...we can put up more points but our defense sucks ..Sounds like your typical WC Team if we do it .

I think you can figure out which way I voted ;)

If you have watched any of the NBA Finals you will see Defense is the Reason Detriot is Winning , not cause they have a tremendous amount of offensive firepower.

Unclebuck
06-10-2004, 10:24 PM
I would trade anyone and everyone except J.O or Artest.

SkipperZ
06-10-2004, 10:26 PM
Anytime I hear Ron's name come up in this deal, I just want to put my fist thru my monitor and chuck the CPU thru my front window!!!

I don't get it, the way I look at it, R.A. is guaranteed for 23 to 27 points per night. Let me explain before you think I am just a strait nut case. Ron can score 13 to 15 points a night, no sweat...yet, on top of that...he is good for knocking at least 10 points off the average for whoever he is guarding.

Well TMAC averages 28 on offense alone...
and hes a better than average defender

TheSauceMaster
06-10-2004, 10:30 PM
Well TMAC averages 28 on offense alone...
and hes a better than average defender

so your saying you can gaurantee he will do the same in Indy since the Offense will not run through him ? If I remember right the year before he avg 32.

SkipperZ
06-10-2004, 10:30 PM
oh but i voted no mainly for contract issues and i think our team would benefit much more by keeping artest and trading al for a not as good, but still good shooting guard, than trading artest to get tmac...

the way i see it we get a little better by trading artest for tmac, but getting someone for harrington is like getting someone for free.

harrington is a good player but on this team he is not needed

TheSauceMaster
06-10-2004, 10:35 PM
oh but i voted no mainly for contract issues and i think our team would benefit much more by keeping artest and trading al for a not as good, but still good shooting guard, than trading artest to get tmac...

the way i see it we get a little better by trading artest for tmac, but getting someone for harrington is like getting someone for free.

harrington is a good player but on this team he is not needed

ahh..ok

I don't think we need a Tmac to be sucessful , just give me a SG who can get me 15-18ppg consistantly and I think we would be alright.

TheSauceMaster
06-11-2004, 01:56 PM
opps I forgot there is a edit button :rolleyes:

Stryder
06-11-2004, 02:02 PM
You NEVER sacrifice defense for instant offense.

Non.

Fool
06-11-2004, 02:16 PM
Since you said Ron I voted No, but I would still say yes if he's gone purely for off-court issues. Basketball-wise no I wouldn't.

Hicks, if the trade is worse for the team as far as playing the game (which I am assuming you believe it is from you final sentence) than why would you be ok with it if its for off court reasons? It seems that this is saying that you would be willing to put up with a worse team if it was a less controversial team off the court. Is this your oppinion?

Suaveness
06-11-2004, 02:16 PM
You NEVER sacrifice defense for instant offense.

Non.

Exactly. Some of you really are undervaluing what Artest does.

TheSauceMaster
06-11-2004, 02:19 PM
You NEVER sacrifice defense for instant offense.

Non.

Exactly. Some of you really are undervaluing what Artest does.


Not me :P

ChicagoJ
06-11-2004, 02:53 PM
I would trade anyone and everyone except J.O or Artest.

I would trade anyone and everyone except J.O

I'd trade JO. But only if the Spurs were looking to move Duncan.