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Kstat
04-19-2008, 02:21 AM
Here we go......

I realize this thread is going to get mocked a bit, but if I want to make this a yearly thing, gotta be consistent.

JayRedd
04-19-2008, 03:00 AM
If this isn't unanimous, it's a travesty.

tdubb03
04-19-2008, 03:04 AM
There should be a "no Pacer" option. I guess Jeff, since he tries so hard and all.

Los Angeles
04-19-2008, 03:19 AM
HAHAHAHAHAhahaha ... haha ... huh ... ... ... hurm.

Jeff Foster.

Kemo
04-19-2008, 06:27 AM
um no.. while Jeff does play good D , he isn't quite the "defensive" player Danny Granger is ... Why do you think he is always put on the other team's best man.??

Also Jeff is more a rebounding monster than a defensive stopper..

while DG is the best defender , jeff is the best rebounder..

Ownagedood
04-19-2008, 08:30 AM
I got Granger.

Probably JO had he played all year.

And Foster had really nice efforts, but Granger just flat out got it done.

..It was extremely tempting to pick Owens for kicks and giggles. :)

Kegboy
04-19-2008, 09:43 AM
Yuck.

idioteque
04-19-2008, 10:04 AM
DG is a respectable defender, so I had to go with him.

Could have voted for JO if he would have played all year.

Did not vote for Jeff because he is a good rebounder, but not a really strong presence in the middle.

Would have voted for Pollard if he was still on the team!

esabyrn333
04-19-2008, 10:07 AM
We all know our Defense sucked last year. I voted for Granger. I can't vote for Jeff because our biggest problem was our low post D. Our middle was softer than the Pillsbury dough boys belly when he is on a cookie bender

Kegboy
04-19-2008, 10:11 AM
I can't vote for Danny because I feel like his defense has regressed every year in the league. I'm tempted to vote for Owens, but you have to actually play to play defense. So, taking a cue from Monty Brewster, I vote,

NONE OF THE ABOVE

esabyrn333
04-19-2008, 10:23 AM
I can't vote for Danny because I feel like his defense has regressed every year in the league. I'm tempted to vote for Owens, but you have to actually play to play defense. So, taking a cue from Monty Brewster, I vote,

NONE OF THE ABOVE


I can agree with this. I feel like a Democrat in Michigan and only having Hillary on the ballad.

RamBo_Lamar
04-19-2008, 10:44 AM
Didn't Kareem Rush go through a stretch where he was being acknowledged as
our best perimeter defender?

I think he should at least get some sort of honorable mention. I hope we keep him.

Hicks
04-19-2008, 11:55 AM
Come on, even with the very legitimate complaints about health and availability, this HAS to go to Jermaine O'Neal.

rexnom
04-19-2008, 12:01 PM
Come on, even with the very legitimate complaints about health and availability, this HAS to go to Jermaine O'Neal.
Wait. Defensive player of THE YEAR, right? Travis Diener had a larger cumulative impact on this defense this year than JO did.

Hicks
04-19-2008, 12:04 PM
To me it's simply which player who was an Indiana Pacer this season was the best defensive player. That's JO.

JayRedd
04-19-2008, 12:37 PM
This is hilarious.

Robertmto
04-19-2008, 01:16 PM
The fact that Granger has 12 votes is embarrasing. I've seen him get blown by, and scored on with 25+ nites so much....it HAS to be Foster.

JO is not so distant, not so close 2nd.

indygeezer
04-19-2008, 01:24 PM
The return of JO showed us how important he is to our "defense" and how much his presence changes the game. Or is it that the presence of ANYBODY that can play defense would have that impact on this wofully inept defensive team???

At the least, he shows how important he is, so I give it to him. (If he hadn't have been healthy at the start of the year we wouldn't have won 20 games this year)

BlueNGold
04-19-2008, 01:51 PM
Foster only because JO did not play enough games to qualify for any award attall.

Granger is not as good on D as I would have expected by this time...but can't be everything to everybody.

BTW, who's Andre Owens?...did he find the floor?....;<)

grace
04-19-2008, 03:51 PM
I can't vote for Danny because I feel like his defense has regressed every year in the league. I'm tempted to vote for Owens, but you have to actually play to play defense. So, taking a cue from Monty Brewster, I vote,

NONE OF THE ABOVE

That's too easy. I actually did research and found out that Jeff has the best rebound stats so I voted for him. (Because when you play as crappy as the Pacers do the best defense is to keep the ball away from the other team.)

Trader Joe
04-19-2008, 09:34 PM
JO by a mile.

BlueNGold
04-19-2008, 09:48 PM
Wait. Defensive player of THE YEAR, right? Travis Diener had a larger cumulative impact on this defense this year than JO did.

There is no question JO is the best defensive player on the team. That's easy. But you got it right. JO played in 16 games in 2008. 7 games in January, 0 in February, 1 in March and 8 in April (as a backup). Even if you assume the entire regular season, he played in 42 games with 1/3 of them on 1 leg.

...hmmm. I suppose even on one leg he is still the best defender on the floor.

Naptown_Seth
04-19-2008, 10:03 PM
If this isn't unanimous, it's a travesty.
I agree, but only a few of us noted that despite playing half a season JO was still clearly the biggest factor in the team playing zero defense vs almost watchable defense.

I know you might have meant Danny* and god knows I love the kid, but this year he has been IMPROVING, which implies that something needed improvement. Defensive awareness, resisting the shot fake/head fake, etc were all problems for him. He's got the tools, he's gotten better at using them, but he's not at the point still where he's making the most of them.

JO is A) stopping the shot B) taking the ball from the other team and C) giving a guy a foul every single time he takes a charge, and he did that 2-3 times a night all year long. Frankly that's just ridiculous. Pairing it with a couple of blocks too makes him by far the Pacers DPOY, even on half a season.

I mean the dude LED THE TEAM in total blocks in just 42 games, and if the stats cited on charges is right and he led the NBA in that in half a season it would seem to be to be unprecedented. And yet people watched this as Pacers fans and said "yeah, par for course, no biggie".

What, Reggie only went 4-7 from 3 tonight, what a bum.




* edit, you went with Jeff, my favorite Pacer for the last few years. He's decent at handling his own, not very good on help D, not a shot blocker, not quick enough to work PnR as well as you'd like. Dude rebounds. Perfect compliment to JO, not so great as your safety in the middle.

Naptown_Seth
04-19-2008, 10:07 PM
Wait. Defensive player of THE YEAR, right? Travis Diener had a larger cumulative impact on this defense this year than JO did.
I agree. That's why the defense SUCKED. JO was good enough to keep the Pacers from setting some kind of defensive sucking record even in just 42 games.


That's too easy. I actually did research and found out that Jeff has the best rebound stats so I voted for him. (Because when you play as crappy as the Pacers do the best defense is to keep the ball away from the other team.)
FTW
:D

JayRedd
04-19-2008, 10:41 PM
If the question was "Who's the best defender on the Pacers," it's clearly JO.

But that whole "of the year" part would imply this year I believe. And this year, JO was a non-factor for our team.

So, therefore, it has to be the winner of the leper beauty pageant: Jeff Foster.

Hicks
04-19-2008, 11:48 PM
There's the distinction: A non-factor. When he was in street clothes? Yep. But when he was out there? No.

AesopRockOn
04-20-2008, 12:11 AM
I'm surprised at how many people are voting for Danny. I guess they haven't watched the games. Like Seth said, he has all the physical tools but misses a lot of assignments and bites on a ton of fakes. Really frustrating. The only thing we have seen in marked improvement on that end showed up towards the end of the season. His timing on blocking shots and those types of challenges looked good. He even had that top play on NBATV. Other than that, the growth has been frustratingly gradual.

Kegboy
04-20-2008, 12:23 AM
To me it's simply which player who was an Indiana Pacer this season was the best defensive player. That's JO.

No, that's Lester Conner.

Kstat
04-25-2008, 08:08 PM
:bump: the people have spoken!

Ownagedood
04-25-2008, 09:22 PM
What the hell?? How can u guys vote Foster over DG?? Lol, I just noticed that Foster won.. None of them played great defense.. But Granger did the best.

RamBo_Lamar
04-25-2008, 11:00 PM
Jeff does deserve some sort of recognition; if not for his defense, but for
providing one of the more humorous moments of the season.

Was it a home game against the Wizards where some idiot fan ran out onto
the court acting crazy? The way Jeff nonchalantly stuck out his leg and
tripped the guy as he ran by was quite :laugh: (not to mention nicely executed).

Kudos to Jeff Foster for all his great efforts!

Shade
04-26-2008, 01:21 AM
That's a good-@$$ award.