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Hicks
06-06-2004, 04:25 PM
http://nbadraft.net/profiles/haseung-jin.asp

Found this here:

http://www.indystar.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=69075

And in that thread, indygeezer mentioned:


NBADraftNet projects him as going #31 to Orlando (2nd round) but IMO after you get past the top 20 or so anything can be a guess.

I like the part about his parents playing for the Korean teams, that means he's grown up around basketball and may have more smarts about the game than most asian or euro big men. But he certainly isn't the "fix" we need at the 5 immediately. He'd probably replace Primoz if we lose him.


If he's projected to go #31, then obviously there's at least a chance he'll be there at #29 for us. Frankly for a #29 pick I'd easily take a "risk" with a 7'3" 330lbs center.

MSA2CF
06-06-2004, 04:27 PM
:love:

:signit:

Roy Munson
06-06-2004, 04:44 PM
wow. that is one ugly human being.

t

Snickers
06-06-2004, 06:46 PM
I'd take him, just so we can have a guy named Ha!! :D

But this part:

Lee Yun-hwan (Seung-jin's High School coach) on Ha:
"Even with such imposing height, he is nimble and shrewd, keying rallies at both ends of the court. He can play a game all the way through without losing his wind."

Sounds pretty dang nice. Huge, mobile, plays both ends, and has good stamina. :thumbup:

Kegboy
06-06-2004, 08:01 PM
wow. that is one ugly human being.

t

Let me second that. After I clicked on the link, I was hiding in a corner for about 5 minutes before I came back to post. Whew.

:disturbed:

TheSauceMaster
06-06-2004, 08:15 PM
Do we need another project guy ? I think we have too many already.

Hicks
06-06-2004, 08:27 PM
Do we need another project guy ? I think we have too many already.

A 7-3 330Lbs guy with his upside is worth having as a project WHILE we contend.

zxc
06-06-2004, 08:49 PM
Might be worth looking at if we solve the backcourt issues via a trade or FA. Dunno how we have too many projects either. Who do we have thats a project, Bender? Unless you consider end of bench scrubs/roster filler like Primoz, James Jones, and Brewer as real projects.

Anthem
06-07-2004, 02:00 AM
Do we need another project guy ? I think we have too many already.

What exactly do you want from a #29 pick?

My question is this: If he's that good, why isn't he projected to go in the first round?

TheSauceMaster
06-07-2004, 02:05 AM
Do we need another project guy ? I think we have too many already.

What exactly do you want from a #29 pick?

My question is this: If he's that good, why isn't he projected to go in the first round?

My point is it depends on what Bird and Donnie feel we need , If were going after Damiper then why Draft another Big man ? see where I am going ? Til we know exactly where they are going it would be hard to say , they might feel we need a pg or a sg ..rather than another Big Man

Cactus Jax
06-07-2004, 03:28 AM
Do we need another project guy ? I think we have too many already.

What exactly do you want from a #29 pick?

My question is this: If he's that good, why isn't he projected to go in the first round?

My point is it depends on what Bird and Donnie feel we need , If were going after Damiper then why Draft another Big man ? see where I am going ? Til we know exactly where they are going it would be hard to say , they might feel we need a pg or a sg ..rather than another Big Man

I think this guy will eventually move to the later part of the 1st round, but I'm figuring lack of experience is the main reason he's so low. I'm all for picking him, as this is the best type of player to pick, especially a center; there's been quite a few good foreign centers picked later in drafts; Nesterovic, Okur, Ilgauskas, etc. The #29 pick is a potential pick, not an impact player pick, christ the #2 pick, if it's Dwight Howard, isn't going to be an immediate impact pick either.

SkipperZ
06-07-2004, 09:31 AM
dwight howard is immediate impact...

He is easily better than Amare Stoudemire was his rookie season...

SkipperZ
06-07-2004, 09:32 AM
and being s. korean i would love to have this guy on the pacers, but I have my reservations that theres a korean basketball player better than I am... :P

Cactus Jax
06-07-2004, 10:00 AM
dwight howard is immediate impact...

He is easily better than Amare Stoudemire was his rookie season...

How can you know that??? The guy has played all high school players. I'm not sure of his height and weight, but from pictures, that I've seen of him, he looked a little skinny for his height. If they place Amare type pressure on him year 1, he's going to more than likely fold like a chair.

Trace
06-07-2004, 10:25 AM
7'3 330 pounds and he only averaged 27 pts 10 reb per game in high school?

How competitive is Korean high school basketball? (I don't know.) Seems like a guy 7'3" should get almost every rebound at that level.

I wonder how he would have fared in a top U.S. high school program.

Diamond Dave
06-07-2004, 11:07 AM
Agreed. 7'3" and 10 rebs per game. No thankyou. This guy was bigger than Shaq at that age and how many boards do you think Shaq would have got over there. 20?, 30? sure as hell a lot more than 10.

And another note Bender is still a project.

Dukins
06-07-2004, 11:10 AM
From the article it seems this guy is soft as toilet tissue. The frame this guy has you would think that he would be more aggresive on the deensive end. We need someone who could come in right away and help. We are one or two more players away from reaching the ultimate prize, a title.

Hicks
06-07-2004, 12:00 PM
Uhh guys. Smits was soft. He didn't rebound well. But I'd still take a young version of him at C. Maybe I'm crazy.

MSA2CF
06-07-2004, 12:08 PM
Uhh guys. Smits was soft. He didn't rebound well. But I'd still take a young version of him at C. Maybe I'm crazy.

We could always draft him and then package him in a deal with Al, couldn't we?

Diamond Dave
06-07-2004, 12:12 PM
So I guess to satisfy both sides, those who want a with an outside shot (Smits) and those who want a center who is tough (Wallace), we would need a player who could combine a little of both plus maybe some passing ability to get it to JO.

cough..Brad Miller...cough :whoknows: :zip:

Hicks
06-07-2004, 12:14 PM
I'm not convinced he's totally soft, but even if he is, I'll take him as a Smits to start, but I bet this coaching staff and players will encourage him to get tough and physical.

Kegboy
06-07-2004, 02:01 PM
Just a note. CBS Sportsline's new mock draft (http://cbs.sportsline.com/nba/story/7399445) has Ha going to SA the pick before us:

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28. San Antonio Spurs: South Korean C Ha Seung-Jin would give Tim Duncan a playmate.

29. Indiana Pacers: Texas Tech SG Andre Emmett has been among the college game's best pure scorers for two years. As Detroit showed, the Pacers need points.

TheSauceMaster
06-07-2004, 02:03 PM
yeah I would almost bet we use #29 on a SG and not a Center , been looking at a couple mock drafts and both have shown we take a SG.

MSA2CF
06-07-2004, 02:05 PM
29. Indiana Pacers: Texas Tech SG Andre Emmett has been among the college game's best pure scorers for two years. As Detroit showed, the Pacers need points.


:laugh:

The Bob Knight Connection

Anthem
06-07-2004, 02:54 PM
Just to clarify, Donnie has said repeatedly that after the mid-first round, you draft purely based on talent and not on a felt need. We very well might use the #29 on a PF, SF, or PG (three positions that we have well-covered) and I wouldn't care. If you find a quality NBA player after 25, then you made a good pick.

Snickers
06-07-2004, 03:07 PM
Just to clarify, Donnie has said repeatedly that after the mid-first round, you draft purely based on talent and not on a felt need. We very well might use the #29 on a PF, SF, or PG (three positions that we have well-covered) and I wouldn't care. If you find a quality NBA player after 25, then you made a good pick.

Right. If there's a quality player available at a low pick, you take him. Teams consistently undervalue and overvalue draft prospects, and every now and then you'll catch someone who falls through the cracks.

I don't think we'll fill one of our holes in the draft. Larry said we're about winning now, and a rookie seldom helps a contending team win now. If we find the guy in the draft, great. But we shouldn't be relying on it.

I wouldn't be surprised if we made a draft day deal involving Al and our pick [picks are worth more once you have an idea of who'll be available there] for a quality SG. But on the other hand, I wouldn't be surprised to see us make a pick not unlike Freddie Jones was, a solid, if unspectacular pick who should be a minor to moderate contributor in a year or two.

Slick Pinkham
06-07-2004, 03:09 PM
A 7-3 330Lbs guy with his upside is worth having as a project ...

I'd rather take my chances on finding a really good shooter for the bench, unless Larry or Donnie have some really big and heavy furniture that they need help moving.

SycamoreKen
06-07-2004, 03:19 PM
I'd take him at 29. Who in this draft is going to come in and contribute more than the bench guys we have? There will be no one there as good or better than Jones or Bender. If we are going to pay a guy to sit and not play it may as well be a kid that is 7'3" 330 instead of a guy that will not get much better.

Fool
06-07-2004, 03:28 PM
Your very own human victory cigar! How nice. Every team should have one! I can just hear it now. "We want Hahahahahaha"

sweabs
06-07-2004, 03:34 PM
Your very own human victory cigar! How nice. Every team should have one! I can just hear it now. "We want Hahahahahaha"

Does this mean you wish Dumars had of taken Anthony?

Doug
06-07-2004, 03:52 PM
Just to clarify, Donnie has said repeatedly that after the mid-first round, you draft purely based on talent and not on a felt need. We very well might use the #29 on a PF, SF, or PG (three positions that we have well-covered) and I wouldn't care. If you find a quality NBA player after 25, then you made a good pick.

If we draft a forward, we'll never know if he's a quality NBA player, only whether or not he looks good in a suit. :-)

I agree with you, most years, but this year I'd take the best SG or C and say screw it if there's a PG, SF, or PF on your board ahead of him.

Or, at #29 just draft on potential sinces it's unlikely you'll find an impact player.

Slick Pinkham
06-07-2004, 04:44 PM
I just can't think of any late 1st round or second round project big men who became even moderately impactful centers.

I think of guys like George Muresean, Yinke Dare, Priest Lauderdale, etc. Some might say Ilguaskas-- I'm guessing he was more polished (Lithuania was at least a good international team) and also the scouting abroad was not so advanced, explaining why he fell to #20 in 1996.

I'd rather try to find a guy with some BASKETBALL talent that people might rank too low because they aren't convinced of his ability to play the position his height suggests he should play, such as Arenas, Boozer, Hoiberg, Antonio Davis, Dennis Rodman, etc.

Kid Minneapolis
06-08-2004, 03:51 PM
wow. that is one ugly human being.

t

Let me second that. After I clicked on the link, I was hiding in a corner for about 5 minutes before I came back to post. Whew.

:disturbed:

HAR HAR! :D