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Coop
02-22-2008, 02:49 PM
I don't know if its been posted but I'm going to post this anyways for those who haven't seen it. There's a press conference being held at 3pm today (15 minutes) to address the situation with Sampson and most likely the alledged boycott. You can find a live feed on wthr.com

Trader Joe
02-22-2008, 02:54 PM
Well, cross your fingers fellas...

Trader Joe
02-22-2008, 03:03 PM
Katz believes Sampson will be suspended without pay. Then Samspon and Greenspan will meet over the next ten day appeal process to talk things over. Katz still believes they are trying to decide between Dakich and McCallum as interim head coach.
He seems to be making it clear that this is not yet a firing for some reason.

Coop
02-22-2008, 03:07 PM
I don't see why they wouldn't fire him right now. What else is there to find? Ten more days isn't going to make much of a difference I wouldn't imagine.

Kraft
02-22-2008, 03:09 PM
He seems to be making it clear that this is not yet a firing for some reason.

See: Jim O'Brien. It's all about the money.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jP4-zzLTSdxfo71Ika3S47rhSuIQD8UU8TI01


COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — Having lost its final appeal, Ohio State will pay former coach Jim O'Brien almost $3 million for wrongfully firing him.

The Ohio Supreme Court on Wednesday declined to hear Ohio State's appeal of the coach's lawsuit against the university, signaling an end to a lengthy court battle.

"With this ruling, the university has exhausted all of its available appeals and the case will conclude," Ohio State spokesman Jim Lynch said in a statement. "The outcome of this case is disappointing news."

O'Brien said he was relieved to finally move on.

"I'm thrilled that that's all behind me, but there is still a little bit of this stigma about what happened," O'Brien told The Associated Press in a phone interview. "In all honesty the most disappointing thing was how my character was being attacked and that's the thing that hurts every bit as much as everything else."

O'Brien, the men's basketball coach at Ohio State from 1998 until 2004, was fired after he told then-athletic director Andy Geiger that he had given a $6,000 loan to a prospective recruit. Such loans are a violation of NCAA rules.

O'Brien sued the university for wrongfully firing him and won $2.2 million plus interest in the Ohio Court of Claims in 2006. The university appealed to the Supreme Court after an appeals court upheld the award. The university and O'Brien's lawyers figure the total award will be $2.7 million to nearly $3 million.

The Supreme Court voted 5-2 to not hear the case. The court did not say why it refused to hear the case.

O'Brien's lawsuit was built around an Ohio State contract that severely limited what the university could do and when it could do it if he broke NCAA bylaws. It required that the university take a series of steps before firing him, including a lengthy investigation by Ohio State and the NCAA.

Ohio State's attorneys argued that O'Brien shouldn't be paid for breaking the rules.

The 57-year-old O'Brien has not coached since he was fired by Ohio State. The NCAA initially leveled heavy sanctions against him for violating bylaws but recently announced that he could return to college coaching as soon as March 10.

"I don't know what I'm going to do regarding the coaching scenario," O'Brien said. "I don't know what opportunities will be there."

Eighteen other universities and the Big 12, Pac-10 and Big Ten conferences filed briefs in support of Ohio State's case.

Indiana, one of the universities supporting Ohio State, faces a similar situation as it deals with allegations of NCAA violations surrounding its men's basketball program and head coach Kelvin Sampson. Indiana is accused of five major rules violations and more than 100 impermissible calls made by Sampson and his assistants while under probation for allegedly making other improper calls.

Indiana athletic director Rick Greenspan is expected to make a recommendation Friday on what Sampson's future will be at the school.

Coop
02-22-2008, 03:11 PM
Press Conference is now at 3:30. Not sure why it keeps getting pushed back.

Trader Joe
02-22-2008, 03:15 PM
ESPN said 4 or 5 for the press conference.

Shade
02-22-2008, 03:31 PM
WTH is going on? Why all the delays? It was originally announced for 2:00.

Shade
02-22-2008, 03:34 PM
ESPN now says 4:00.

Trader Joe
02-22-2008, 03:34 PM
I think the delay is that they are going to switch to McCallum as the interim head coach.

Bball
02-22-2008, 03:36 PM
WTH is going on? Why all the delays? It was originally announced for 2:00.

Trying to get the team onboard with the decision and finish the season would be my guess... Unless Sampson is considering resigning if certain terms are met and they are discussing this. The two could even go together since obviously if Sampson resigned it would be harder for the team to mutiny.

-Bball

Shade
02-22-2008, 03:50 PM
I think the delay is that they are going to switch to McCallum as the interim head coach.

That would be an interesting switch. Possibly done to appease the players?

Trader Joe
02-22-2008, 03:51 PM
Or the delay could just be so IU can get this practice in with Sampson first. Let the players work for him one more time.

Coop
02-22-2008, 04:09 PM
Am I reading this right? Herald-Times says press conference is now at 6. Seriously, just finish the damn thing already.

Shade
02-22-2008, 04:10 PM
It's 4:10. Do you know where your coach is?

Shade
02-22-2008, 04:10 PM
Am I reading this right? Herald-Times says press conference is now at 6. Seriously, just finish the damn thing already.

This is ridiculous. I have to leave by 6:00, so now I'm going to miss it. :mad:

Trader Joe
02-22-2008, 04:31 PM
Found this on a Butler basketball board and thought it was humurous (they are having their fun with our situation to say the least), but I thought this would be kind of funny to help pass the time as we wait...

Twas the night before Sampson's firing...
and all through Bloomington
Not a cellphone was ringing
and texts? There were none.

Kelvin was shredding phone bills with care
dreaming of titles that would never be there.
Sampson in his blue shirt, and Greenspan in tears.
afraid of losing his own job after all of these years.

When outside Assembly Hall arose such a clatter
They ran through the lobby to see what was the matter
Through the glass doors and into the night
Looking for a sign in the evening moonlight.

The night was still, barely a sound
It didn't look like anyone was around.
Until the echoes filtered though the air
Of a long ago sound of a flying chair.

Then a loud voice that sounded like a bomb
They knew it must be the former coach named Bob.
More rapid then cheetahs, the curse words they came
Directed at players that brought him much fame.

#@$^ Alford, #%@% Cheaney, #@%@ Dakich and Benson
#$#$ Bailey, !@#* Thomas, @#$% Evans and Wittman.
Set up that backscreen, drive down the lane!
Or you guys will never win a game!

Closer the voice came, like a sonic boom
Signalling Coach Sampson's impending doom.
Kelvin heard the voice, tried to deny it.
"I'll lie to him too, I'm sure he will buy it."

Sampson closed the door, and fastened the lock
waiting and waiting for the inevitable knock.
Coach Knight did knock, with clipboard in hand.
And standing next to him, SURPRISE! NCAA Pres Myles Brand!

Sampson backpedaled, trying to escape
willing to do anything to change his fate.
"I won't make calls, I'll disown Verizon!
I'll even schedule teams from the Horizon!"

Coach Knight just stood there, a scowl on his face.
Looking and looking at the total disgrace.
His face was as red as his trademark sweater
Wanting to choke him, except he knew better.

His silver hair sparkled like ice.
His hands clinched together, tight as a vice.
No longer could the coach hold his dismay.
The following was said in his own special way.

"I ran this program for almost 30 years.
You run this program like you've had 30 beers!
My program was clean through and through.
Yours smells like a big stinking pile of #2."

Kelvin knew Knight was right and stared at the floor.
He knew he was about to be shown out the door.
He gathered some things that he wanted to pack.
And wondered about a possible opening at Quinnipiac.

Sampson drove away from Assembly Hall
A haunting example of a precipitous fall.
Lost in his thoughts, his car ran into a ditch.
A fan pulled up and screamed "Can you hear me now? B@&)*!"

Since86
02-22-2008, 04:37 PM
That would be an interesting switch. Possibly done to appease the players?

I just shake my head when the name Dakich keeps getting brought up, like it would be a good thing.

He became the laughing stock of the MAC while at BG.

obnoxiousmodesty
02-22-2008, 04:50 PM
I've been reloading the Hoosier Scoop all day long in a vain attempt to know what's happening. Things look very, very bad. Will the players actually boycott?

Shade
02-22-2008, 04:54 PM
There's a rumor up on RATS that says Sampson has accepted a buyout and is resigning, and that Dakich will take over and there will be no boycott.

The info seems to change every few minutes, telling me that pretty much nobody knows what's going on for sure.

Trader Joe
02-22-2008, 05:02 PM
Guys you don't want to go to IndyStar right now. This just got really bad. White, Bassett, Ellis, Crawford, Thomas, and McGee all skipped practice this afternoon.

Coop
02-22-2008, 05:06 PM
Guys you don't want to go to IndyStar right now. This just got really bad. White, Bassett, Ellis, Crawford, Thomas, and McGee all skipped practice this afternoon.


Yeah, I saw that a while ago on Peegs. I'm not reading too much into this right now. I really can't see DJ doing this at this point in his career. He's has a lot on the line (1st rd pick, BT POY). After what he's been through here, I think he's more mature than to make a rash decision when he only has another month of college basketball left.

obnoxiousmodesty
02-22-2008, 05:06 PM
Guys you don't want to go to IndyStar right now. This just got really bad. White, Bassett, Ellis, Crawford, Thomas, and McGee all skipped practice this afternoon.
Confirmed by the H-T. Looks very bad.

http://blogs.heraldtimesonline.com/iusp/?p=1654

Trader Joe
02-22-2008, 05:07 PM
At the very least pencil in a loss to Northwestern tomorrow. All those players will be suspended for that game I bet.

Trader Joe
02-22-2008, 05:11 PM
Yeah, I saw that a while ago on Peegs. I'm not reading too much into this right now. I really can't see DJ doing this at this point in his career. He's has a lot on the line (1st rd pick, BT POY). After what he's been through here, I think he's more mature than to make a rash decision when he only has another month of college basketball left.

The rash decision has already been made. You can't skip a practice. He would have gotten a suspension for this even if nothing was going on. Under the circumstances you can almost guarantee one. A loss to Northwestern dooms our chances at a Big Ten championship this year.

Trader Joe
02-22-2008, 05:12 PM
Probable starters against NU tomorrow:

Ahlfield
Finklemeir
Gordon
Stemler
Taber

:suicide:

Trader Joe
02-22-2008, 05:17 PM
Student rally outside of Assembly Hall at 6 PM to try to rally the team.

obnoxiousmodesty
02-22-2008, 05:20 PM
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080222/SPORTS0601/802220520


Kelvin Sampson will meet with his team tonight and encourage them to play in Saturday's game at Northwestern regardless of his situation, a person close to the team said today.

Six players, including D.J. White, Armon Bassett, Jamarcus Ellis and Jordan Crawford, did not show up for a scheduled practice today at Assembly Hall.

Another person close to the team said players have threatened to boycott Saturday's game if Sampson is not the coach, and the team will follow D.J. White's lead on whether to play.

Coop
02-22-2008, 05:24 PM
The rash decision has already been made. You can't skip a practice. He would have gotten a suspension for this even if nothing was going on. Under the circumstances you can almost guarantee one. A loss to Northwestern dooms our chances at a Big Ten championship this year.


Everyone is assuming the worst. As of now, yes things look very bad. But did anyone from IU actually make a statement that those players "skipped" practice? I haven't seen anything. All I've seen is reporters speculating that they skipped. No one outside of the team knows what's going on right now. Until we do, everyone needs to calm down and wait for an official statement to be made.

Trader Joe
02-22-2008, 05:27 PM
Adam, I see you are reading this. Just posted on Peegs STUDENT RALLY AT 6 PM OUTSIDE THE HALL TO SUPPORT THE TEAM AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO PLAY. If you want to go or know anyone who would please get the word out.

Sollozzo
02-22-2008, 05:30 PM
Adam, I see you are reading this. Just posted on Peegs STUDENT RALLY AT 6 PM OUTSIDE THE HALL TO SUPPORT THE TEAM AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO PLAY. If you want to go or know anyone who would please get the word out.


I would, but I have the X201 exam tonight and have to do some last minute cramming. It's such a great weekend, I have x201 tonight and monday, and a201 on sunday.

:unimpressed:

Trader Joe
02-22-2008, 05:31 PM
X201 isn't that bad. I have a201 on SUnday as well.

Trader Joe
02-22-2008, 06:20 PM
Nobody showed up to the rally. The guy posted it on Peegs too late.

We are twenty four hours from the game and we don't know who our coach is or who our players are. Fellas this IS Hoosiers.

Trader Joe
02-22-2008, 06:31 PM
According to Gordon player's did not know what was going on with Sampson when they arrived at practice at 3:30 PM. If thats the case then Greenspan needs to be fired at this press conference as well, and if I was a player I would not show up to practice either if I was not being kept informed.

Here's the quote from ESPN:

Star freshman guard Eric Gordon (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=36469) was on his way to the team's 3:30 p.m. ET practice when he told the AP that players have not been told of any decision regarding Sampson
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3258506

Coop
02-22-2008, 06:37 PM
I just now got sound for the first time in about 3 hours. Maybe it's just my computer but I'm hoping this means we're close to getting started.

Trader Joe
02-22-2008, 06:38 PM
Yep there is sound on WTHR's online feed now. Feels like we are getting close.

Trader Joe
02-22-2008, 06:41 PM
ESPN and WTHR reporting settlement has been reached and that Sampson is officially gone. Dakich in.

Aw Heck
02-22-2008, 06:42 PM
ESPN and WTHR reporting settlement has been reached and that Sampson is officially gone. Dakich in.
I hope the players come back and play. Why ruin such a good season?

Sampson dug his own grave on this one. For IU, it was either this or get REALLY hammered by the NCAA.

Trader Joe
02-22-2008, 06:51 PM
IMO Sampson deciding to accept a settlement is an attempt on his part to get the players to play. In an odd way Sampson may be saving the IU basketball program.

aero
02-22-2008, 06:52 PM
$750K buy out....is what im hearing

obnoxiousmodesty
02-22-2008, 06:53 PM
The H-T says McRobbie may also meet with the players this evening along with Sampson.

Big Smooth
02-22-2008, 07:53 PM
Probable starters against NU tomorrow:

Ahlfield
Finklemeir
Gordon
Stemler
Taber

:suicide:

The good news - it is still Northwestern we are playing. :D

ABADays
02-22-2008, 09:07 PM
So it's a little after 9p Indy time - did they ever have the freaking press conference?

Bball
02-22-2008, 09:17 PM
So it's a little after 9p Indy time - did they ever have the freaking press conference?

It appears the answer is yes... and it might even be ongoing. HT Blog has info:
http://blogs.heraldtimesonline.com/iusp/

CableKC
02-23-2008, 12:08 AM
I have a stupid question......if IU doesn't make a huge splash in the NCAA tournament.........is there any chance that Gordon's stock drop's to the 8th or 9th spot?

Shade
02-23-2008, 01:03 AM
I have a stupid question......if IU doesn't make a huge splash in the NCAA tournament.........is there any chance that Gordon's stock drop's to the 8th or 9th spot?

Doubtful, but possible. I wouldn't bet on it, though.

Bball
02-23-2008, 01:36 AM
I have a stupid question......if IU doesn't make a huge splash in the NCAA tournament.........is there any chance that Gordon's stock drop's to the 8th or 9th spot?


Catch 22- If his stock does drop down that far, is he really the player you want?

Of course one answer is simply "Danny Granger" (a player who dropped and dropped yet obviously has the stuff to be an NBA player.



-Bball