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Shade
02-03-2008, 10:04 PM
YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shade
02-03-2008, 10:04 PM
I'm in absolute shock. Unbelievable. UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!

avoidingtheclowns
02-03-2008, 10:04 PM
HOLY ****ING CHRIST ON CRUTCHES!!!!!!!!!!!!

wooolus
02-03-2008, 10:05 PM
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA DIE PATRIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

bosk
02-03-2008, 10:07 PM
TYTYTYTYTYTYTYTY

Lord Helmet
02-03-2008, 10:08 PM
Wow. Eli is definitely Super Bowl XLII MVP.

Sollozzo
02-03-2008, 10:09 PM
Amazing!

Kstat
02-03-2008, 10:09 PM
I was thinking of you guys during the last 2 minutes. Have fun with this Pats loss, you're going to get insane mileage out of it...

Hicks
02-03-2008, 10:09 PM
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ELI! ELI! ELI!!!!!!!!

AND 10000000000000000000000000 POINTS TO BE AWARDED TO THE NY GIANTS' DEFENSE!!

UNBELIEVABLE!!!!

NOTHING IS GIVEN. EVERYTHING IS TAKEN.

tora tora
02-03-2008, 10:09 PM
How did he avoid that sack in the last minute, and throw a completion. That **** was crazy!

Hicks
02-03-2008, 10:10 PM
I was thinking of you guys during the last 2 minutes. Have fun with this Pats loss, you're going to get insane mileage out of it...

Oh hell yes! The Colts had a better season last year than the Patriots did this year in my book. :D :lombardi: :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Bball
02-03-2008, 10:11 PM
I shall quote Jamaal Tinsley because it is perfect for here:

"And one, motherf&^%er!"

EIGHTEEN and ONE

Muwhahahahahahahaha
Yes.. I am taking glee in seeing the Patriots lose.

I hope Shula and the boys enjoy their champagne.

-Bball

obnoxiousmodesty
02-03-2008, 10:11 PM
WHOOOOOOOOOOO!

I called my dad as Eli took a knee to end the game. He sounded just as happy as he did after the Colts victory last season.

YES!

Peyton: 1
Eli: 1

BlueNGold
02-03-2008, 10:11 PM
How did he avoid that sack in the last minute, and throw a completion. That **** was crazy!

Only one thing can explain that play. And he's up there celebrating too!!!!!

Aw Heck
02-03-2008, 10:11 PM
Giants: 17
Greatest team in the history of the universe with the greatest QB ever...well, almost anyway :D : 14

Both Mannings have rings now. Imagine all of the commericals that can use material like that...

I'm so happy for Eli. And I'm so happy that Patriots lost. Justice is served.

Isaac
02-03-2008, 10:12 PM
Mal has it down perfectly. 06 Colts >>> 07 Pats

DrBadd01
02-03-2008, 10:12 PM
18-1*

Die Cheatriots!!!!!!!!!!!

BlueNGold
02-03-2008, 10:13 PM
The world is lining up to hire Eli and Peyton.

McClintic Sphere
02-03-2008, 10:14 PM
18-1!!!!! 18-1!!!!! 18-1!!!!! 18-1!!!!! 18-1!!!!! 18-1!!!!! 18-1!!!!! 18-1!!!!! 18-1!!!!! 18-1!!!!! 18-1!!!!! 18-1!!!!! 18-1!!!!! 18-1!!!!! 18-1!!!!! 18-1!!!!! 18-1!!!!! 18-1!!!!! 18-1!!!!! 18-1!!!!! 18-1!!!!! 18-1!!!!! 18-1!!!!! 18-1!!!!! 18-1!!!!! 18-1!!!!! 18-1!!!!!

BlueNGold
02-03-2008, 10:14 PM
Where's the Patriot's board? Time to send the trolls out. lol!

tora tora
02-03-2008, 10:15 PM
lmao at moss thinking the game was over, ahh the expression on his face after the game ended was priceless.

James Bond
02-03-2008, 10:16 PM
THANK GOD!!!!!!!!!!

TOM BRADY ISN"T THE HERO!!!!!

Trader Joe
02-03-2008, 10:16 PM
I can see the headlines already....
Greatest Team of All Time...LOSES!!!!


I hope the Pats enjoy their waste of a season. I hope the Fins enjoy their champagne.
Wow Pats fan flicking the camera off on Fox.
Oh and I especially enjoyed Belichick leaving his team on the field for the final knee down what a freaking ***** loser.

wooolus
02-03-2008, 10:17 PM
WOW, THIS MAKE THE COLTS LOSE BAREABLE, STUPID PATRIOTS, DIE!!!!!!!!!!!

Evan_The_Dude
02-03-2008, 10:19 PM
LMAO Terry Bradshaw sounds like he's excited the Patriots lost. I feel like I did when the Colts won last season!

LoneGranger33
02-03-2008, 10:23 PM
This whole thread is bad karma for the Pacers and the Colts...

Moses
02-03-2008, 10:23 PM
I'm stunned. The Giants outplayed us tonight. Of all ****ing games to lose all season..son of a *****.

Slick Pinkham
02-03-2008, 10:24 PM
good physical game

their D-line was incredible, and OL injury to Neal in the 1st Q was costly.

A good run for a great team, but 19 wins is a tall task. Mercury Morris is still alone in his neighborhood.

:(

Aw Heck
02-03-2008, 10:25 PM
This whole thread is bad karma for the Pacers and the Colts...
The Pacers and Colts can get better someday. If it gets really bad, there's always a sliver of light.

But if the Pats won and went perfect, we'd never hear the end of it. That's eternal damnation right there.

avoidingtheclowns
02-03-2008, 10:26 PM
wow.... i have no idea how to process what i just watched. the giants played ridiculously well.

Slick Pinkham
02-03-2008, 10:27 PM
on the plus side, Moss will have motivation to stay a Patriot.

sign or replace Samuel, use the draft picks wisely, and obviously this loss could serve as a great motivator

Shade
02-03-2008, 10:30 PM
I'm stunned. The Giants outplayed us tonight. Of all ****ing games to lose all season..son of a *****.


good physical game

their D-line was incredible, and OL injury to Neal in the 1st Q was costly.

A good run for a great team, but 19 wins is a tall task. Mercury Morris is still alone in his neighborhood.

:(

I seriously do feel for you guys. I just hate the Pats franchise sooooo much for all the cocky, unsportsmanlike bull**** that I take great pleasure in watching them suffer.

It's not too late to join the good guys... ;)

Hicks
02-03-2008, 10:30 PM
Oh and I especially enjoyed Belichick leaving his team on the field for the final knee down what a freaking ***** loser.

Yeah that was tacky.

The Hustler
02-03-2008, 10:31 PM
unbelievable!

Great 4th Quarter!
Final drive will be go down in history!

Eli has certainly proved himself in this championship run, Congratulations Giants!

Can now only hope for a Colts return next year! :D

BlueNGold
02-03-2008, 10:32 PM
Almost saw a tear in Belichick's eye. Does anyone feel sorry for him? lol.

Shade
02-03-2008, 10:34 PM
Mercury Morris is still alone in his neighborhood.

I guess Belichick and Brady got sniped by a drive-by on his block. :laugh:

Shade
02-03-2008, 10:35 PM
Two seasons in a row, the Pats are eliminated by a late Manning-orchestrated touchdown. :yay:

Trader Joe
02-03-2008, 10:35 PM
Almost saw a tear in Belichick's eye. Does anyone feel sorry for him? lol.

Uh, no.

Shade
02-03-2008, 10:37 PM
unbelievable!

Great 4th Quarter!
Final drive will be go down in history!

Eli has certainly proved himself in this championship run, Congratulations Giants!

Can now only hope for a Colts return next year! :D

Colts/Giants for Super Bowl XLIII!

It just sunk in that an NFC team won the Super Bowl. :jawdrop:

Aw Heck
02-03-2008, 10:37 PM
Once again, a Wildcard team wins the Super Bowl and the team with the best record in the league fails to win the Super Bowl.

More motivation for the Colts to avoid a playoff bye week.

Moses
02-03-2008, 10:37 PM
I seriously do feel for you guys. I just hate the Pats franchise sooooo much for all the cocky, unsportsmanlike bull**** that I take great pleasure in watching them suffer.

It's not too late to join the good guys... ;)
Well if there was any team in the playoffs that I would have wanted to lose to, it probably would have been the Giants. This just proves that you can NEVER predict who will win a SB. The Giants are an example of a team who peaked at the perfect time. They sucked major balls earlier this year and really turned things around at the right time.

Shade
02-03-2008, 10:39 PM
Well if there was any team in the playoffs that I would have wanted to lose to, it probably would have been the Giants. This just proves that you can NEVER predict who will win a SB. The Giants are an example of a team who peaked at the perfect time. They sucked major balls earlier this year and really turned things around at the right time.

No doubt. Biggest upset I can recall in any sport in a looooong time.

Slick Pinkham
02-03-2008, 10:39 PM
Oh and I especially enjoyed Belichick leaving his team on the field for the final knee down what a freaking ***** loser.

He sought out the opposing coach, shook hands and even gave him a hug, and left when the game was lost.

I mean, damn, gripe about something real

Hicks
02-03-2008, 10:40 PM
He sought out the opposing coach, shook hands and even gave him a hug, and left when the game was lost.

I mean, damn, gripe about something real

Not about that. Good for him for doing that part, but he left his players out there for that final play while he sulks in the locker room. You can't walk away WITH your team?

Trader Joe
02-03-2008, 10:41 PM
He sought out the opposing coach, shook hands and even gave him a hug, and left when the game was lost.

I mean, damn, gripe about something real

You're making excuses for a guy who left like a loser. His whole team was still on the field. There was a second left on the clock and he abandoned his team. There is no way you can justify that.

Ownagedood
02-03-2008, 10:42 PM
HECK YA MAN!!!! THE "AMAZING" PATS LOST!!!!!:dance:

Shade
02-03-2008, 10:42 PM
Is it too late to order one of these? :D

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Hicks
02-03-2008, 10:43 PM
Is it too late to order one of these? :D

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Shade
02-03-2008, 10:46 PM
Oh, and when it comes to predictions:

Plexico > Brady

;)

Ownagedood
02-03-2008, 10:50 PM
Oh, and when it comes to predictions:

Plexico > Brady

;)

Lol, ya, Plaxico was almost exactly right on his guess.. Brady was way off.. Giants were amazing. :dance::dance::dance:

Shade
02-03-2008, 10:54 PM
The Giants' title this year almost mirrors the Colts' last season. Both teams beat the three toughest teams they could possibly face, all on the road. Doesn't get any better than that.

sweabs
02-03-2008, 10:54 PM
Amazing, amazing, AMAZING game. I was almost as high as I was from the Colts winning last year. What a great game.

Eli looked like his older brother on that last drive.

There are a few bandwagon Pats fans at my school - can't wait to see them this week. Some of them were already thinking about next season before this game even happened.

Oh, and classic Belichek at the end.

Sollozzo
02-03-2008, 11:00 PM
The Giants' title this year almost mirrors the Colts' last season. Both teams beat the three toughest teams they could possibly face, all on the road. Doesn't get any better than that.


What? The Colts played both the Chiefs and Pats at the Dome. Colts only had 1 true road playoff game, which was the Baltimore game. Super Bowl doesn't really count as a true road game in my book, as no one team really has the advantage.

Shade
02-03-2008, 11:02 PM
Btw, massive congrats to the Giants. One of the few New York teams I can stomach.

Now don't screw it up and turn to the Dark Side like the evil Pats did. ;)

Shade
02-03-2008, 11:03 PM
What? The Colts played both the Chiefs and Pats at the Dome. Colts only had 1 true road playoff game, which was the Baltimore game. Super Bowl doesn't really count as a true road game in my book, as no one team really has the advantage.

Oops, yeah, I forgot the Pats game was at the Dome. Still, the Ravens and Bears games were on the road. I say "road" for the SB because it isn't at home; both teams are technically on the road.

James Bond
02-03-2008, 11:04 PM
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I saw this a couple days ago.

It was a major jinx.

I laughed my *** off even before the game.

I already knew it.

travmil
02-03-2008, 11:04 PM
No doubt. Biggest upset I can recall in any sport in a looooong time.

Ironically, the only thing even close in my book is the Pats taking down the Rams for their first SB.

But I'm with you Shade. There are few things in the world of sports that make me happier than watching the Patriots lose.

I love the fact that Belichick further cemented his legacy as the poorest loser in the history of sport when he wouldn't even stay on the sidelines for the final kneeldown.

Do I feel sorry for any Patriots? I do feel for Junior Seau. He's one of the only Patriots that I have nothing but respect for. If the Patriots had won, I'd have taken solace in the fact that one of the best LB's to ever play got a ring in the process. It is offset though by the fact that two of my favorite non-Colts, Strahan and Toomer did get one.

The Pats stared down immortality and blinked. Of course it didn't help them at all that they ran into a talented team with exactly the right pieces to beat them that peaked at precisely the right time. I knew it would take a perfect storm to beat them and the Giants whipped one up for them. One of the better Super Bowls in recent memory regardless of the outcome.

pig norton
02-03-2008, 11:07 PM
Wow, seeing the pats* lose like that is almost as good as a Colts win.


Almost.:(




But still good enough for a :dance:.

Slick Pinkham
02-03-2008, 11:07 PM
I saw this a couple days ago.

It was a major jinx.

I laughed my *** off even before the game.

I already knew it.


the Giants had a similar book for sale early, also on amazon

Shade
02-03-2008, 11:09 PM
Ironically, the only thing even close in my book is the Pats taking down the Rams for their first SB.

I was thinking the same thing. The only other comparable ones that come to mind are:

The Red Sox beating the Yankees after trailing 3 games to none, and the Pistons beating the Lakers in 4 straight after losing Game 1 in the Finals.

grace
02-03-2008, 11:10 PM
He sought out the opposing coach, shook hands and even gave him a hug, and left when the game was lost.

I mean, damn, gripe about something real


If I'm one of the Pats' defensive guys who has to go out on the field for the last play I damn well expect my coach to stay on the field.

Does anyone honestly think that if that had been the Colts about to lose a game Tony Dungy would have left the field early? The only NFL coach that I can think of that would be that big a sore loser would be Jon Gruden.

As for griping about something real maybe the Pats should have been watching the Giants warm up before the game. FOX showed a clip of Eli throwing to Plax on the exact same route that ended up winning the game.

Sollozzo
02-03-2008, 11:10 PM
That Pats have gone 3 seasons without winning a Championship now. Them winning titles is starting to become a distant memory.

Shade
02-03-2008, 11:11 PM
Y'know, in hindsight, this is as sweet as it gets for Pats haters. All the hype, all the waiting, and it was all taken away at the last possible minute. Literally.

Shade
02-03-2008, 11:13 PM
Archie Manning has got to be the happiest man on Earth right now.

BoomBaby33
02-03-2008, 11:17 PM
Y'know, in hindsight, this is as sweet as it gets for Pats haters. All the hype, all the waiting, and it was all taken away at the last possible minute. Literally.

By Peyton's little bro no less!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Way to go ELI!!!!!!

Congrats to Archie BTW. After all the losing seasons he endured, to have your 2 sons be back to back Super bowl MVP's.

On a personal note, I usually hate every New York sporting team in every sport, except tonight.

Will Galen
02-03-2008, 11:24 PM
I can't wait to read Bill Simmons next column. After reading his column
Journey to the edge of perfection<!-- begin pres by -->


http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/080201

I know he was counting the Pats as SB champions.

James Bond
02-03-2008, 11:30 PM
Ironically, the only thing even close in my book is the Pats taking down the Rams for their first SB.

But I'm with you Shade. There are few things in the world of sports that make me happier than watching the Patriots lose.

I love the fact that Belichick further cemented his legacy as the poorest loser in the history of sport when he wouldn't even stay on the sidelines for the final kneeldown.

Do I feel sorry for any Patriots? I do feel for Junior Seau. He's one of the only Patriots that I have nothing but respect for. If the Patriots had won, I'd have taken solace in the fact that one of the best LB's to ever play got a ring in the process. It is offset though by the fact that two of my favorite non-Colts, Strahan and Toomer did get one.

The Pats stared down immortality and blinked. Of course it didn't help them at all that they ran into a talented team with exactly the right pieces to beat them that peaked at precisely the right time. I knew it would take a perfect storm to beat them and the Giants whipped one up for them. One of the better Super Bowls in recent memory regardless of the outcome.

And that is currently under review.
with the whole speculation of the taping and everything.

grace
02-03-2008, 11:31 PM
Here's my running commentary on the post game press conferences:

Props to Randy Moss for actually talking to the media instead of using those one sentence answers that you get from Belichick.

grace
02-03-2008, 11:33 PM
And that is currently under review.
with the whole speculation of the taping and everything.

It would make this season almost perfect if they'd get caught for that too. However, unless the tapes are leaked to the media I don't see the league admitting they cheated then too.

Shade
02-03-2008, 11:53 PM
By Peyton's little bro no less!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Way to go ELI!!!!!!

Congrats to Archie BTW. After all the losing seasons he endured, to have your 2 sons be back to back Super bowl MVP's.

On a personal note, I usually hate every New York sporting team in every sport, except tonight.

The supreme irony in this is that all the hype will now shift back indirectly to Peyton and Colts, due to his ties with Eli. It's almost like we won again. :D

sweabs
02-04-2008, 12:09 AM
Seriously - Belichek's move at the end of the game was just terrible. I don't understand how a coach could do that to his players.

It also took something away from the final celebration for the Giants...I wouldn't put it past him. It is Belichek, afterall.

But really, just a terrible move by him.

Shade
02-04-2008, 12:27 AM
Seriously - Belichek's move at the end of the game was just terrible. I don't understand how a coach could do that to his players.

It also took something away from the final celebration for the Giants...I wouldn't put it past him. It is Belichek, afterall.

But really, just a terrible move by him.

What do you expect? Belichick is just a lousy human being.

sweabs
02-04-2008, 12:30 AM
Yes he truly is.

Plus, I'd like to add that the catch by Tyree from Manning is going to be historic. I said it when it happened. That was absolutely HUGE.

Oh yeah, and the Pats really had two great chances to intercept the ball on Eli's last drive. Choke!

Trader Joe
02-04-2008, 12:37 AM
Oh yeah that catch will go down as one of the greatest plays in Super Bowl history.

Hoop
02-04-2008, 12:39 AM
Biggest chokers of all time, HA HA HA

Best team of all time my @ss, HA HA HA.

Only thing that matters is Super Bowls, HA HA HA.

Brady's new TD record, what good did it do him, HA HA HA

Brady's now choked in 3 straight playoffs, HA HA HA

The worst 18-1 team in history! HA HA HA The 18-1 Bears and 49ers were better, they won the Super Bowl.

(Just had to give back a little of what Pats fans have been dishing out for years)



The only thing that could possibly top this is when they take away their cheating Super Bowl win over the Rams.

grace
02-04-2008, 12:40 AM
Seriously - Belichek's move at the end of the game was just terrible.


I wish someone would ask him why he left the field before the game was over. I'd love to hear his answer. He can't say he didn't know there was still time left because I saw the ref telling him there was.

By the way, him leaving is a finable offense.


http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/removingteam

No player, coach, or other person affiliated with a club may remove that club’s team from the field during the playing of any game, including preseason, except at the direction of the referee. Any club violating this rule will be subject to disciplinary action by the Commissioner, including possible game forfeiture and sole liability for financial losses suffered by the opposing club and any other affected member clubs of the League. [See Section 9.1 (E) of the NFL Constitution and Bylaws.]

Hicks
02-04-2008, 12:41 AM
Who did New England lose to the year before they lost to us? Did the Steelers beat them in the second round, or did someone else do that? I'm starting to remember.... was it the Broncos?

tdubb03
02-04-2008, 12:43 AM
Yes he truly is.

Plus, I'd like to add that the catch by Tyree from Manning is going to be historic. I said it when it happened. That was absolutely HUGE.

Oh yeah, and the Pats really had two great chances to intercept the ball on Eli's last drive. Choke!

Forget the catch (though an amazing one) what about Eli getting away from at least two Patriots who had him! Eli amazed me with his pocket presence tonight.

sweabs
02-04-2008, 12:43 AM
Nice - good catch, Grace. That'd be icing on the cake...a little fine to go along with things.

Personally, it seemed like he almost wanted to create some confusion to take away from a Giants celebration. Just to mess around with it a little bit. I don't know what he was thinking - but it certainly created an awkward scene.

Trader Joe
02-04-2008, 12:43 AM
Oh BTW no one has touched on this yet, but is anyone else loving the fact that Tiki Barber looks like a huge a-hole now? He spent all of last summer ripping on Eli and the Giants and he also continued it during the season. If I were Eli I'd be calling him out for sure.

sweabs
02-04-2008, 12:44 AM
Forget the catch (though an amazing one) what about Eli getting away from at least two Patriots who had him! Eli amazed me with his pocket presence tonight.
Yep, the entire play was unbelievable.

idioteque
02-04-2008, 12:51 AM
Who did New England lose to the year before they lost to us? Did the Steelers beat them in the second round, or did someone else do that? I'm starting to remember.... was it the Broncos?

It was the Broncos, the Pats lost in Denver that year in the divisional game.

I don't really get the happiness Colts fans are getting from thiss. I'm not really happy unless WE win the Super Bowl :shrugs:

Great game by the Giants, though. Historic victory.

If the Colts can somehow win the next two SB's, we're tied with the Pats for the best team of the decade.

Sollozzo
02-04-2008, 12:57 AM
Only the Patriots could turn a team from New York into a likable underdog and America's team.

Bball
02-04-2008, 01:04 AM
I wish someone would ask him why he left the field before the game was over. I'd love to hear his answer. He can't say he didn't know there was still time left because I saw the ref telling him there was.

By the way, him leaving is a finable offense.


http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/removingteam

No player, coach, or other person affiliated with a club may remove that club’s team from the field during the playing of any game, including preseason, except at the direction of the referee. Any club violating this rule will be subject to disciplinary action by the Commissioner, including possible game forfeiture and sole liability for financial losses suffered by the opposing club and any other affected member clubs of the League. [See Section 9.1 (E) of the NFL Constitution and Bylaws.]


Not sure this would fit the described situation. He left himself, and as far as I can tell, didn't order his team off the field of play. In fact, his defense did return to the field to play out the final 1 sec.

Players leave the sidelines all the time... From injuries to bathroom breaks... it happens.

Since he did meet at the center of the field and congratulated Coughlin (with them both apparently thinking the game was over), I think that would be seen as a mitigating circumstance if the NFL did review this.

I think that rule was more designed for a team trying to show up or make some kind of point to the officials or the league by pulling a team off the field before the game is over. Kind of like the F1 teams pulling their cars off the track before the start of the Indy GP a few years ago.

So, as bad as it looked to some, I don't think it violated the highlighted rule or even the spirit of the rule. Had he left and snubbed Coughlin, then maybe there'd be a somewhat better argument. It could be construed to look bad for Belichek... but it really didn't really make the NFL look bad and IMHO wasn't intended to.

And Belichek doesn't care if it made him look bad or not.

-Bball "Lawyer hat on"

Bball
02-04-2008, 01:12 AM
It was the Broncos, the Pats lost in Denver that year in the divisional game.

I don't really get the happiness Colts fans are getting from thiss. I'm not really happy unless WE win the Super Bowl :shrugs:

Great game by the Giants, though. Historic victory.

If the Colts can somehow win the next two SB's, we're tied with the Pats for the best team of the decade.

Because most of us Colt fans think we have a pretty good team too and all we've heard from the media has been:
Brady Brady Brady Brady Brady Brady Brady Brady Brady Brady Brady Brady Brady Brady Brady. The Colts have had solid regular season success and a recent SB win and it's been tossed aside while the Pats had already been crowned the team of the decade and handed this last SB title.

A win by the Pats making them 19-0 would've buried what success the Colts have had this decade and elevated these Pats to mythical status in the media and thus in the archives of NFL Films.

But a funny thing happened on the way to 19-0....

I think most would agree that the Pats' playoff success has been dominate, but overall, the Colts have at least been their equal in the regular season (this decade) and do have one SB themselves. And the Colts' SB is more recent than the Pats' last SB! :devil:

-Bball

Hoop
02-04-2008, 01:14 AM
I don't really get the happiness Colts fans are getting from this. I'm not really happy unless WE win the Super Bowl :shrugs:

You obviously haven't seen or heard the obnoxious fans of the Pats, they are hands down the worst of all pro sports. The hatred of the Pats is fueled by there horrible fans and their coach.

Doesn't happen on this great site, the mods don't let Pats fans come in a try to take over.

idioteque
02-04-2008, 01:20 AM
Because most of us Colt fans think we have a pretty good team too and all we've heard from the media has been:
Brady Brady Brady Brady Brady Brady Brady Brady Brady Brady Brady Brady Brady Brady Brady. The Colts have had solid regular season success and a recent SB win and it's been tossed aside while the Pats had already been crowned the team of the decade and handed this last SB title.

A win by the Pats making them 19-0 would've buried what success the Colts have had this decade and elevated these Pats to mythical status in the media and thus in the archives of NFL Films.

But a funny thing happened on the way to 19-0....

I think most would agree that the Pats' playoff success has been dominate, but overall, the Colts have at least been their equal in the regular season (this decade) and do have one SB themselves. And the Colts' SB is more recent than the Pats' last SB! :devil:

-Bball

I see what you're saying, Brady is annoyingly the King of the media right now, but I have to admit that Peyton isn't that far behind.

And the Pats got an exceptional amount of media coverage this year but that is mostly because they won 18 straight games, so I think they mostly deserved it. What annoyed me more than anything was the media crowning their asses before they beat us in the regular season, but after they beat us in the regular season, it was all fair game IMHO.

I just don't think it has anything to do with the Pats in regard to how this team is looked at at the end of the decade. Right now we've won one SB only, which puts us on the measley level of the Bucanneers and the Ravens, who aren't remembered as great teams, and rightfully so.

It is up to us, and only us, to cement our legacy in the next couple of years.

Bball
02-04-2008, 01:34 AM
It is up to us, and only us, to cement our legacy in the next couple of years.

Agreed... And by the Pats LOSING (I love saying that) in the Super Bowl (to a Manning led team no less)... then it allows the door to still be open for us.

If the Pats had reached that 19-0 then it would've seemingly validated all the glowing praise that was heaped on them throughout the season and raised them to mythical status. Nothing we'd realistically do in the next couple of seasons would likely change that.

What was the final strength of schedule for the Pats this season?

That said, Dungy is going to have to find an answer to having this team thoroughly prepared to start the season, and questionably prepared to finish it...



-Bball

Moses
02-04-2008, 01:40 AM
Oh BTW no one has touched on this yet, but is anyone else loving the fact that Tiki Barber looks like a huge a-hole now? He spent all of last summer ripping on Eli and the Giants and he also continued it during the season. If I were Eli I'd be calling him out for sure.
That's what my Giants fans friends were telling me.

"I know someone who feels twice as bad as you do..TIKI BARBER!!!" (and possibly Jeremy Shockey)

Not to knock on either guy, but maybe taking those two out of the equation really let Eli step into the huddle and be the leader.

Trader Joe
02-04-2008, 01:47 AM
Shockey isn't as bad. Tiki basically said that Eli was a loser during the offseason. Not only does he not get a ring, but now hes eating crow.

Sollozzo
02-04-2008, 01:55 AM
Shockey isn't as bad. Tiki basically said that Eli was a loser during the offseason. Not only does he not get a ring, but now hes eating crow.


Yeah, something tells me that the Giants aren't going to be giving Tiki a ring like Dungy did with Edge.

He ripped Coughlin and Eli, IIRC.

grace
02-04-2008, 02:30 AM
Yeah, something tells me that the Giants aren't going to be giving Tiki a ring like Dungy did with Edge.

He ripped Coughlin and Eli, IIRC.

He more or less ripped the whole team. I think Tikki stinks as an annalist. He's the #2 reason I quit watching that worthless pre-game show on Sunday nights. (#1 was Keith Oberman if anyone cares.)

Sollozzo
02-04-2008, 02:46 AM
He more or less ripped the whole team. I think Tikki stinks as an annalist. He's the #2 reason I quit watching that worthless pre-game show on Sunday nights. (#1 was Keith Oberman if anyone cares.)


Yeah, I can't stand Keith Oberman either. I don't know if there is anyone on TV who is as full of themselves as he is.

Kraft
02-04-2008, 02:59 AM
Yeah, I can't stand Keith Oberman either. I don't know if there is anyone on TV who is as full of themselves as he is.

Well, there's this guy named Bill ...

Suaveness
02-04-2008, 03:20 AM
Agreed... And by the Pats LOSING (I love saying that) in the Super Bowl (to a Manning led team no less)... then it allows the door to still be open for us.

If the Pats had reached that 19-0 then it would've seemingly validated all the glowing praise that was heaped on them throughout the season and raised them to mythical status. Nothing we'd realistically do in the next couple of seasons would likely change that.

What was the final strength of schedule for the Pats this season?

That said, Dungy is going to have to find an answer to having this team thoroughly prepared to start the season, and questionably prepared to finish it...



-Bball

There's no question that having the Pats win would've completely thrown aside our accomplisments in recent years, except with our own fans. I really hope we can win at least one more within the next couple years. If we can do that, then we would hopefully be remembered as one of the two great teams of the decade. Beating NE along the way to that title would help too. They deserve another playoff loss from us.

We need to get a 3 or 4 seed. We don't seem to be capable of winning otherwise. It may help that we have the 2nd toughest schedule next year. Who has the easiest? I believe it's the Pats (or 2nd easiest). How they managed that I have no idea.

I thought we had a better team this year, but as has been mentioned, injuries killed us. I think keys for us this year: OL/DL depth. We need more DBs...I'm not a fan of Jennings. LBs are surprisingly good. I wonder if we'll keep Booger. Will we resign our OGs or not. Clark should be back. Ugoh will be much better next year. I think we'll be in great shape.

Oh...hail to the Giants!

tdubb03
02-04-2008, 03:28 AM
That throw to Tyree was the best football play I've ever seen. The the more times I see the replay the more it just cements it for me.

King Tuts Tomb
02-04-2008, 03:38 AM
God that was sweet. And in addition to that:

-The Patriots are an old team. That defense doesn't have much left in the tank.

-The Colts are an extremely young team. Really the only key player we're losing in the next couple years is Marvin.

-Next year we'll have Dwight back

-Dungy is coming back

-Spygate looks like it has legs

-Peyton Manning is the number one DSRL player in the world right now

-Jack Del Rio is the coach of our biggest challenger in our division

-We have Dallas, Bob Sanders, Dwight and Reggie locked up in long term deals

It's a good time to be a Colts fan.

Edit: And we have Gary Brackett! I forgot to include my favorite defensive Colts of all time

SoupIsGood
02-04-2008, 03:48 AM
-Jack Del Rio is the coach of our biggest challenger in our division

-

That one always brightens my day. :cool:

DisplacedKnick
02-04-2008, 06:59 AM
Speaking of jinxes, I remember hearing late last week that the Patriots organization went and copyrighted the phrase, "Nineteen and Oh" (or something like that).

What do they do with that now? Print t-shirts with "19-0 - the season that could have been"? on them? Or do they hang onto it and sell it to the team that finally does go undefeated (some team will eventually)? Or do they just contract to market memorabilia for that team?

And on another note, related to the Giants' pass rush - we have been given yet another reminder that when you hit him in the mouth enough times, no matter who he is, every quarterback turns into David Carr.

McClintic Sphere
02-04-2008, 07:17 AM
Brady was planted in the Arizona sod like a modern day Jesse James.

Nothing could compare to the Colt's winning last year, but with the enmity the Patriots have built with their collective a-holeness, only matched by that of their fanbase, this is close to last year. Belidick needs to be fined, fired, straightjacketed and given a permanent room in Alcatrez.

Pig Nash
02-04-2008, 11:57 AM
Speaking of biggest upsets. People forget that the 97 Broncos were 12 point underdog to the defending champion Packers. The NFC was unbeatable then. This might spell a changing of the guard to the NFC.

travmil
02-04-2008, 12:17 PM
Speaking of biggest upsets. People forget that the 97 Broncos were 12 point underdog to the defending champion Packers. The NFC was unbeatable then. This might spell a changing of the guard to the NFC.

I don't know if you'll see a complete change. It's certainly not like last year though when you literally could have had an all AFC playoffs. Teams like Green Bay and Dallas, and now the Giants really stepped it up a notch this season.

Hoop
02-04-2008, 01:19 PM
http://gandpmedia.com/robsahomo/Bill.jpg

Hoop
02-04-2008, 01:25 PM
http://www.rbk.com/us/perfectville/

Hoop
02-04-2008, 02:31 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v94/Hooping/BradyGoesDown.jpg

Young
02-04-2008, 02:54 PM
I'm still in shock that the Giants won. I still can't believe it.

I never would have thought that the Pats were going to lose, not after going undefeated in the regular season. They have a lot of close games but always managed to pull it out in the end. Another close one and finally they couldn't pull it out.

Just goes to show you that a QB needs good protection. Brady obviously didn't have that getting sacked five times. You can't pull an Eli everytime you are about to get sacked. Some have ragged on Peyton for the losses here in Indy but usually I blame the offensive line, and I blame the Pats o-line big time in this game for not giving Brady a chance.

Great to see the Giants win it. I am really happy for them. I think it's really funny they win it without Barber too.

Hoop
02-04-2008, 03:47 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v94/Hooping/BurressCheatingTD.jpg

Sollozzo
02-04-2008, 06:08 PM
The best part of seeing that Tyree catch played over and over is that you get to see him own Roidney Harrison as he catches it. Too bad he isn't on the juice any more, or else maybe he would have deflected it.

grace
02-04-2008, 08:01 PM
http://gandpmedia.com/robsahomo/Bill.jpg

The minute saw him wearing that rediculous red thing I told Kegboy "The red makes me think of the Giants."

Don't f*** with Karma, Bill. :tsk:

Trader Joe
02-04-2008, 08:03 PM
I really enjoy Brady's "17 points" thing now.

McClintic Sphere
02-04-2008, 08:18 PM
I really don't think it was that big of an upset. In the realm of media hype, yes it was. But on the arc these 2 teams were on (Patriots descending over the last month and a half and the G-Men clearly in ascension) this shouldn't have been that big of a shock to people that actually watched them play. The Giants with their outstanding front seven were perfectly suited to attack what the Patriots do best.

BoomBaby31
02-04-2008, 09:01 PM
I really don't think it was that big of an upset. In the realm of media hype, yes it was. But on the arc these 2 teams were on (Patriots descending over the last month and a half and the G-Men clearly in ascension) this shouldn't have been that big of a shock to people that actually watched them play. The Giants with their outstanding front seven were perfectly suited to attack what the Patriots do best.

I wonder who has been writing this since about week 14:hmm: The only way the Pats were going to get beat is by a team with awesome ends, there were 2 teams that had that us and the Giants. Freeney went down, so the giants was the only hope. Another thing, boy the giants deserve this, by far the toughest road to the superbowl. Pack, Cowboys, Bucs, Patriots wowweeee.

Slick Pinkham
02-04-2008, 09:19 PM
Maybe I shouldn't bring this up because of the timing, but I have always thought that the losing team in the Super Bowl in our pop culture is over stigmatized.

I had an old college acquaintance who used to work for the Buffalo Bills in the 80s/90s. Though I was a Pats fan, I always followed them a little more even as a rival, and was behind them in the playoffs.

Well, the Buffalo Bills lost 4 straight Super Bowls and people still treat them as "America's Losers"

Do you realize how hard it is to win 4 straight conference titles?

The Patriots deserve extra ragging as such a big favorite, and the 18-0, but was the point spread not similar in 2005 when the Colts lost to the Steelers? Was the popular impression that the Colts gagged like a dog and ought to be ashamed? I think not.

This year, I see there is a sense that the Giants of course had a great season, all the other playoff teams (even the Colts) had a good season since they made the playoffs, but the Patriots ought to run somewhere and hide.

I know your reaction is to say "yeah, he's a Pats fan."

Trust me, I thought the Bears got excessively crucified last year, and like I said this feeling goes back to the Bills teams and even to the first 3 Elways teams that lost. People said they gagged. Then later they had more balanced physical teams that could run, and Elway was a genius not a choker.

Just because half of the people who watch the Super Bowl every year never watch any other game, the loser of one game should not be denigrated to such an extent. 30 other teams wanted to be there and fell short. This also doesn't seem to happen in other sports. NBA finalists, unless they are swept, are not portrayed as being frauds and losers who should be embarassed for getting there and taking all but the last step.

Sorry, /rant

Shade
02-04-2008, 10:07 PM
For all those who ordered that book off of Amazon, don't forget the matching t-shirt!

Bball
02-04-2008, 10:12 PM
rant

There's plenty truth in what you are saying but in the end, the Pats were just the last loser of the season. Only the Giants were winners. So to the victor comes the spoils.

As the Patriots steamrolled thru the regular season I think a lot of the media got caught up in proclaiming the Pats' greatness without any caveats. The hype fed itself and grew. The Pats never were as good as the record indicated. There were some close calls to teams that shouldn't have been that close. But hey, you can only play the teams on your schedule and you're supposed to play to win.... and a win is a win...

When it got down to it, the Giants showed the football world that the Pats weren't unbeatable. It's not like it was a lucky win where a costly fumble or fluke interception made the difference. The Giants took it to the Pats, put Brady on his a$$ for much of the game, and then drove the field on them in a 2 minute drill to win the game.

All of a sudden the media had some backtracking to do. So what you are ranting about is the result of this backtracking. The media are like rats scurrying from a sinking ship. So, just as the hype grew too big on the positive side, I think you'll see the opposite now.

-Bball

Hoop
02-04-2008, 11:17 PM
Maybe I shouldn't bring this up because of the timing, but I have always thought that the losing team in the Super Bowl in our pop culture is over stigmatized.

I had an old college acquaintance who used to work for the Buffalo Bills in the 80s/90s. Though I was a Pats fan, I always followed them a little more even as a rival, and was behind them in the playoffs.

Well, the Buffalo Bills lost 4 straight Super Bowls and people still treat them as "America's Losers"

Do you realize how hard it is to win 4 straight conference titles?

The Patriots deserve extra ragging as such a big favorite, and the 18-0, but was the point spread not similar in 2005 when the Colts lost to the Steelers? Was the popular impression that the Colts gagged like a dog and ought to be ashamed? I think not.

This year, I see there is a sense that the Giants of course had a great season, all the other playoff teams (even the Colts) had a good season since they made the playoffs, but the Patriots ought to run somewhere and hide.

I know your reaction is to say "yeah, he's a Pats fan."

Trust me, I thought the Bears got excessively crucified last year, and like I said this feeling goes back to the Bills teams and even to the first 3 Elways teams that lost. People said they gagged. Then later they had more balanced physical teams that could run, and Elway was a genius not a choker.

Just because half of the people who watch the Super Bowl every year never watch any other game, the loser of one game should not be denigrated to such an extent. 30 other teams wanted to be there and fell short. This also doesn't seem to happen in other sports. NBA finalists, unless they are swept, are not portrayed as being frauds and losers who should be embarassed for getting there and taking all but the last step.

Sorry, /rant
You 100% right, but you don't seem to understand for years Pats fans have said the exact opposite of all those things. They have mercilessly attacked Colts fans and other fans. Brady is the god of all quarterbacks, Touchdown passes don't mean anything, etc. Numbers don't mean anything, Super Bowls wins are all that matters. Now this season when golden boy Brady has great numbers, for the first time, it's all about stats and numbers now. They can't have it both ways.

I think it is silly to rate players by how many rings they have, especially in football, the one sport it takes more of team effort than any other. It is also almost impossible to rate teams of different eras.

Still, I don't see how anyone can argue that this was the biggest loss in NFL history. I will rub it in to those folks for ever, I will never forget how Pats fans, some of there players and their coach have conducted them selfs. I hated the Pats with a passion reserved for few select teams before the game, after the game and I will always hate them, just like Detroit and most of their fans.

You have alway seemed like a nice guy and a very good poster, but in my experience with Pat fans you're rarer than hen's teeth. Almost all I've meet in person or on the internet are complete classless a-holes. There is a reason most of the country hates the Pats, lot's of good reasons. Don't expect it go way anytime soon.

Moses
02-04-2008, 11:37 PM
You 100% right, but you don't seem to understand for years Pats fans have said the exact opposite of all those things. They have mercilessly attacked Colts fans and other fans. Brady is the god of all quarterbacks, Touchdown passes don't mean anything, etc. Numbers don't mean anything, Super Bowls wins are all that matters. Now this season when golden boy Brady has great numbers, for the first time, it's all about stats and numbers now. They can't have it both ways.

I think it is silly to rate players by how many rings they have, especially in football, the one sport it takes more of team effort than any other. It is also almost impossible to rate teams of different eras.

Still, I don't see how anyone can argue that this was the biggest loss in NFL history. I will rub it in to those folks for ever, I will never forget how Pats fans, some of there players and their coach have conducted them selfs. I hated the Pats with a passion reserved for few select teams before the game, after the game and I will always hate them, just like Detroit and most of their fans.

I guess the point I'm really trying to get across is that at the end of the day, it's just a game for our entertainment. Some people take it to far regarding morals of people. Just because I cheer for the Patriots doesn't make me a classless person..and just because you cheer for the Colts doesn't mean you are a "good guy." Pats fans are no worse then any other fans in the NFL. You are just more biased towards the team, so naturally you will have a predisposition to want to make them seem worse.

You have alway seemed like a nice guy and a very good poster, but in my experience with Pat fans you're rarer than hen's teeth. Almost all I've meet in person or on the internet are complete classless a-holes. There is a reason most of the country hates the Pats, lot's of good reasons. Don't expect it go way anytime soon.
You just dislike New England so naturally you are going to have a predisposition to dislike their fans even more. If you think Pats fans are bad, you should go to an Oakland game some time.

Shade
02-05-2008, 12:31 AM
You just dislike New England so naturally you are going to have a predisposition to dislike their fans even more. If you think Pats fans are bad, you should go to an Oakland game some time.

Go to the RATS Colts forum sometime. The Pats trolls took it over a few years ago and just won't go away.

Every team has their bad fans, but the Pats have more than most.

travmil
02-05-2008, 12:37 PM
You just dislike New England so naturally you are going to have a predisposition to dislike their fans even more. If you think Pats fans are bad, you should go to an Oakland game some time.

That isn't true at all. In fact, I hate the Patriots because of their fans, not the other way around. I rooted for the Pats against the Rams and didn't begin hating them until their trolls invaded the Indystar message board and set up permanent shop. I would bet that a lot of the folks here feel exactly the same way. As for Oakland's fans, at least they went away when their team started sucking.

Moses
02-05-2008, 03:02 PM
That isn't true at all. In fact, I hate the Patriots because of their fans, not the other way around. I rooted for the Pats against the Rams and didn't begin hating them until their trolls invaded the Indystar message board and set up permanent shop. I would bet that a lot of the folks here feel exactly the same way. As for Oakland's fans, at least they went away when their team started sucking.
I guess if it happened at one online forum, it must be true.

Shade
02-05-2008, 04:04 PM
I guess if it happened at one online forum, it must be true.

Check out other forums. They're everywhere. Like whiny cockroaches.

Moses
02-05-2008, 06:45 PM
Check out other forums. They're everywhere. Like whiny cockroaches.
There will always be trolls, for every team. The fantasy football forums I post at have TONS of Colts trolls.

Sollozzo
02-05-2008, 10:06 PM
Boston fans are notorious for being obnoxious. Go to sportsline, they are almost as bad there as they are on Indystar. Indystar puts up with them though and lets them say what they want. IS posters complain that they get banned from Pats forums for saying the slightest thing that is against the pats.

Most of the Pats fans have seemingly vanished from Indystar.

Like I said earlier, only the Patriots could turn a team from New York into some sort of likable underdog that is latched onto by the rest of America. The Giants were America's team the other night.

Hoop
02-06-2008, 02:02 AM
Just like the end of the Pats run for 19-0 :laugh::laugh::laugh:

18-Doh!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TwXThquznA0

Hoop
02-06-2008, 02:19 AM
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