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Doug in CO
06-01-2004, 11:57 PM
Dear Son -

I am sorry your father has turned you into a Pacers fan - but as long as I have, let me tell you what you have to look forward to.

Heartache.

This is an organization that is just good enough to make it to the Conference Finals - but wins it fewer than 20% of the time. This is a team that always seems close - but never is close enough... let me digress - do not let me turn you into a Colts fan as well - there is a curse involved with the Indianapolis teams that is stronger than even the Red Sox curse (you see, those people have the Patriots)... back to the Pacers.

I am sorry that the team you root for has no backcourt - and the 2 guard that used to have balls the size of Montana now can't even make a free throw in the clutch. I am sorry I subjected you to game 5 where you so astutely asked - 'how come Reggie never shoots?'

And I am really sorry that Jonathon Bender - someone who has been on the team almost as long as you have been alive - still has not developed into a player that could even carry a mediocre player from Kentucky's jock.

I am sorry that Ron Artest will break your heart again - he is our headache, and he will contunue to be for the foreseeable future.

I am sorry that Al Harrington never became as good as a Davis.

I am sorry that you root for a team whose secret weapon is a guy from Providence who couldn't guard you.

I am sorry that I let you get sucked in with me - thinking that this was the year - the year with the home court. Hope can be a cruel mistress.

It is not too late - you can become a bandwagon fan and actually celebrate a championship in your lifetime. Hurry, change your allegiances. You can actually change them every year - many people do that.

Because son, this just hurts too damn much - and it happens every year. Every f-ing year.

Diamond Dave
06-02-2004, 12:10 AM
Oh God :rotflmao:

Indeed every f-ing year

Shade
06-02-2004, 12:11 AM
Amen. :bowdown:

t-Bone
06-02-2004, 12:13 AM
we will be back. we, WILL be back and win it.

sweabs
06-02-2004, 12:13 AM
Funny stuff...yet PAINFULLY true.

Aw Heck
06-02-2004, 12:14 AM
Preach on. I'm there with you. I was never alive during IU's NCAA championships. Diappointment and heartache are all that I have felt as an Indiana sports fan. But I keep rooting, keep hope alive.

:thumbup:

Ryan
06-02-2004, 12:15 AM
I hope that diss was towards Austin and not PC. :mad:

Bball
06-02-2004, 12:18 AM
Well, I pretty much know what to expect if Walsh was alone calling the shots... but now there is the tandem of Walsh and Bird so maybe we will be a little more active in plugging leaks and.... even proactive.... we might even cut our losses in some places...

Or maybe it'll be like always- Grow from within and be happy we aren't the Clippers.

-Bball

BostonConnection
06-02-2004, 12:30 AM
This is an organization that is just good enough to make it to the Conference Finals - but wins it fewer than 20% of the time. This is a team that always seems close - but never is close enough... let me digress - do not let me turn you into a Colts fan as well - there is a curse involved with the Indianapolis teams that is stronger than even the Red Sox curse (you see, those people have the Patriots)... back to the Pacers.

...

Because son, this just hurts too damn much - and it happens every year. Every f-ing year.

Well, I don't know that I would go so far as saying that any "Indianapolis team curse" could be stronger than the Red Sox supposed curse. I mean, the Colts have only been in Indy since the mid-'80s and the Pacers since the late '60s (and they won 3 ABA titles) - we're talking 42 yrs before the Patriots won a championship and it's been around 100 yrs of frustration for the Sox! :laugh:

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Preach on. I'm there with you. I was never alive during IU's NCAA championships.

Ok, now I feel really old... :(

indygeezer
06-02-2004, 12:35 AM
Dear Son -

I am sorry your father has turned you into a Pacers fan - but as long as I have, let me tell you what you have to look forward to.

Heartache.

This is an organization that is just good enough to make it to the Conference Finals - but wins it fewer than 20% of the time. This is a team that always seems close - but never is close enough... let me digress - do not let me turn you into a Colts fan as well - there is a curse involved with the Indianapolis teams that is stronger than even the Red Sox curse (you see, those people have the Patriots)... back to the Pacers.

I am sorry that the team you root for has no backcourt - and the 2 guard that used to have balls the size of Montana now can't even make a free throw in the clutch. I am sorry I subjected you to game 5 where you so astutely asked - 'how come Reggie never shoots?'

And I am really sorry that Jonathon Bender - someone who has been on the team almost as long as you have been alive - still has not developed into a player that could even carry a mediocre player from Kentucky's jock.

I am sorry that Ron Artest will break your heart again - he is our headache, and he will contunue to be for the foreseeable future.

I am sorry that Al Harrington never became as good as a Davis.

I am sorry that you root for a team whose secret weapon is a guy from Providence who coulsn't guard you.

I am sorry that I let you get sucked in with me - thinking that this was the year - the year with the home court. Hope can be a cruel mistress.

It is not too late - you can become a bandwagon fan and actually celebrate a championship in your lifetime. Hurry, change your allegiances. You can actually change them every year - many people do that.

Because son, this just hurts too damn much - and it happens every year. Every f-ing year.


Oh quit preaching to the congregation...I'm a Cubs fan too.

sixthman
06-02-2004, 12:35 AM
I am sorry that I let you get sucked in with me - thinking that this was the year - the year with the home court. Hope can be a cruel mistress.

It is not too late - you can become a bandwagon fan and actually celebrate a championship in your lifetime. Hurry, change your allegiances. You can actually change them every year - many people do that.

Because son, this just hurts too damn much - and it happens every year. Every f-ing year.

Next year is the year. :dance: :pepper:

Did you really believe this team would win it all?

LAPacer
06-02-2004, 12:35 AM
Sometimes, I wish I was a Lakers fan. But the Pacers have alot of class. Jermaine did great at the press conference.

Doug in CO
06-02-2004, 06:01 AM
Was I ripping on Providence - no... Austin, yes.

Do I feel sorry for the Boston fan - hell no. The 35 year old (my age) has celebrated no less than 5 championships while I am supposed to remember the early 70s? Same with Chicago fans.

Did I think we would win the championship - no, because of the Indianapolis curse - but in all seriousness, we were better than every team in the league but the Lakers - I could have lived with a Lakers sweep - but we were better than Detroit.

And someone made the comment about knowing what to expect if Walsh was calling the shots - in my opinion he would be pinning next year's hopes on Jamison Brewer.

This team is in dire need for a 2 guard - starter - no small role - and a guard who is fast enought to stay with the T.J. Fords and Dwyane Wades of the East. Will they get that? Not without a trade.

TheSauceMaster
06-02-2004, 06:14 AM
The thing that stalled our progress 2 critical injures ..it's pretty easy too see if we have a 100% JO and TInsley we have a much better shot , we just got unlucky injuries at the worst time.

After seeing Game 5 I dealt with my were not gonna make it this year feelings I seen it on the Players faces in game 5 and I knew the Reggie Miller I knew was gone when he passed on that 3 on the Break in game 5 .

I am very shocked we won 61 games , I knew from the get go that we had weakness and it took the ECF and a good Pistons team to expose the weakness , the Heat some what exploited it but the Pistons opened it wide up.

Been a Pacers fan for 30 years , so I know what pain is trust me.

Bball
06-02-2004, 09:54 AM
The thing that stalled our progress 2 critical injures ..it's pretty easy too see if we have a 100% JO and TInsley we have a much better shot , we just got unlucky injuries at the worst time.



The thing that stalled our progress was Detroit's trade deadline upgrade and our standing pat. Since we were the best team in the East at the time it is understandable how we stood pat but Detroit made us pay. The trade propelled them past us.

-Bball

TheSauceMaster
06-02-2004, 09:56 AM
Well let me ask you this , Did we have anything anyone wanted , same goes for us did someone have anything we wanted , only person you would have wanted to give up was AL and if I remember he got hurt right around that time.

With the solid progress and record we had at the time , I think the old saying is " If it ain't broke , don't fix it"

BillS
06-02-2004, 10:08 AM
Just remember this - if we haven't done something to our kids they could sue us over when they grow up warped and twisted, then we haven't done our job as parents.

You've done your job as a parent.

sweabs
06-02-2004, 10:12 AM
The more it hurts now, the better it will feel when we finally win.













































I just hope I'm alive to feel that

Slick Pinkham
06-02-2004, 10:15 AM
The Pacers back fortunes should not be compared to that of the Red Sox.

You realize of course that every single Red Sox potseason failure has involved losing a seven game series (or one game playoff, thank you Bucky Dent) and almost always blowing at least one game in an incredibly bizarre manner, fom Bucky to Bill Buckner to Aaron Boone to Grady Little.

If the Pacers' fortunes were truly that of the Red Sox, the Pacers would have won last night, and this is how game 7 would have unfolded:

The Pacers would be ahead by 2 points and running out the clock. Reggie would be fouled with 5 seconds left. Unexplicably, for the first time in his career, he would miss both free throws. A Pacer would rebound the ball but dribble it off his foot, straight to a Piston, who would pass to Billups at midcourt, who would be stripped of the ball by Ron Artest. The loose ball would crazily find its way to Ben Wallace, who would hoist a 40-footer, finding nothing but net, the one and only game winning three pointer of his career.

Dukins
06-02-2004, 11:28 AM
At least no one here is a :warriors: :clippers: fan. Now that has to be brutal. :laugh: Keep hope alive. Hey im in the office today with Pacer hat and a big bright Pacer yellow jersey. Im with this team forever win or lose. :boomer:

grace
06-02-2004, 11:41 AM
Dear Doug's son,

I'm sorry your father forgot to take his Prozac. Tell your mom to put him in a padded room and not to let him out until preseason.

In the meantime dance with your fruits and vegatables and enjoy the summer!

:dance: :pepper: :carrot: :mango: :pineapple: :cucumber: :rock: :apple: :orange:

:boomer:

BostonConnection
06-02-2004, 06:48 PM
If the Pacers' fortunes were truly that of the Red Sox, the Pacers would have won last night, and this is how game 7 would have unfolded:

The Pacers would be ahead by 2 points and running out the clock. Reggie would be fouled with 5 seconds left. Unexplicably, for the first time in his career, he would miss both free throws. A Pacer would rebound the ball but dribble it off his foot, straight to a Piston, who would pass to Billups at midcourt, who would be stripped of the ball by Ron Artest. The loose ball would crazily find its way to Ben Wallace, who would hoist a 40-footer, finding nothing but net, the one and only game winning three pointer of his career.

I can hear Mark Boyle's radio call of the infamous play now: "The ball rolls through Bender's legs!" :o :laugh: :P

MSA2CF
06-02-2004, 11:37 PM
You realize of course that every single Red Sox potseason failure has involved losing a seven game series (or one game playoff, thank you Bucky Dent) and almost always blowing at least one game in an incredibly bizarre manner, fom Bucky to Bill Buckner to Aaron Boone to Grady Little.

I know I'm being an idiot, but those two were the same game. :lol2:

bulletproof
06-03-2004, 01:48 AM
It is not too late - you can become a bandwagon fan and actually celebrate a championship in your lifetime. Hurry, change your allegiances. You can actually change them every year - many people do that.

Yeah, this is something I want to instill my children, too. No sense of loyalty or allegiance. If my children become Lakers fans, then I will know I at least did something right.

Doug in CO
06-03-2004, 09:06 AM
It is not too late - you can become a bandwagon fan and actually celebrate a championship in your lifetime. Hurry, change your allegiances. You can actually change them every year - many people do that.

Yeah, this is something I want to instill my children, too. No sense of loyalty or allegiance. If my children become Lakers fans, then I will know I at least did something right.Bulletproof, I would like to introduce you to sarcasm.

Of course I will teach my son about loyalty and allegiance.

Why shouldn't he have the same misery every year that I do - the pain reminds us that we are alive.

I am the guy that still hates Larry Bird because he is a Celtic and I revere Chuck Person because he stuck it to Bird (tried to) and all those front running Indiana Celtic fans.

Don't talk to me about loyalty. I drove 15 hours to see game 5 in person.

Question my knowledge, my theories, my whatever - but never my loyalty - and never what I would really teach my son.

bulletproof
06-03-2004, 09:20 AM
It is not too late - you can become a bandwagon fan and actually celebrate a championship in your lifetime. Hurry, change your allegiances. You can actually change them every year - many people do that.

Yeah, this is something I want to instill my children, too. No sense of loyalty or allegiance. If my children become Lakers fans, then I will know I at least did something right.

Bulletproof, I would like to introduce you to sarcasm.

Um, I know you were being sarcastic, and I was responding with sarcasm.

Did you see that recent Chris Rock special on HBO where he says, If your daughter becomes a stripper, then you know (as a father) you fücked up.

Well...

If your child becomes a Laker fans, then you know...

You get the idea. ;)

ChicagoJ
06-03-2004, 09:48 AM
I am the guy that still hates Larry Bird because he is a Celtic and I revere Chuck Person because he stuck it to Bird (tried to) and all those front running Indiana Celtic fans.



:dance: :thankyou: :thumbup: :thumbsup: :highfive:

ABADays
06-03-2004, 06:49 PM
I can hear Mark Boyle's radio call of the infamous play now: "The ball rolls through Bender's legs!" :o :laugh: :P

May I embelish a little. Boyle "I don't believe what I have just seen! Bender rolls the ball through Bender's legs!"

Grant
06-04-2004, 09:42 AM
Dear Son -

I am sorry your father has turned you into a Pacers fan - but as long as I have, let me tell you what you have to look forward to.

Heartache.

This is an organization that is just good enough to make it to the Conference Finals - but wins it fewer than 20% of the time. This is a team that always seems close - but never is close enough... let me digress - do not let me turn you into a Colts fan as well - there is a curse involved with the Indianapolis teams that is stronger than even the Red Sox curse (you see, those people have the Patriots)... back to the Pacers.

I am sorry that the team you root for has no backcourt - and the 2 guard that used to have balls the size of Montana now can't even make a free throw in the clutch. I am sorry I subjected you to game 5 where you so astutely asked - 'how come Reggie never shoots?'

And I am really sorry that Jonathon Bender - someone who has been on the team almost as long as you have been alive - still has not developed into a player that could even carry a mediocre player from Kentucky's jock.

I am sorry that Ron Artest will break your heart again - he is our headache, and he will contunue to be for the foreseeable future.

I am sorry that Al Harrington never became as good as a Davis.

I am sorry that you root for a team whose secret weapon is a guy from Providence who coulsn't guard you.

I am sorry that I let you get sucked in with me - thinking that this was the year - the year with the home court. Hope can be a cruel mistress.

It is not too late - you can become a bandwagon fan and actually celebrate a championship in your lifetime. Hurry, change your allegiances. You can actually change them every year - many people do that.

Because son, this just hurts too damn much - and it happens every year. Every f-ing year.

Is it to early to nominate this as "Post of the Year"?

Maybe Hicks could make a sticky with all the nominations for post of the year. Put this one at the top.

abington
05-30-2005, 09:09 PM
Dear Son -

I am sorry your father has turned you into a Pacers fan - but as long as I have, let me tell you what you have to look forward to.

Heartache.

This is an organization that is just good enough to make it to the Conference Finals - but wins it fewer than 20% of the time. This is a team that always seems close - but never is close enough... let me digress - do not let me turn you into a Colts fan as well - there is a curse involved with the Indianapolis teams that is stronger than even the Red Sox curse (you see, those people have the Patriots)... back to the Pacers.

I am sorry that the team you root for has no backcourt - and the 2 guard that used to have balls the size of Montana now can't even make a free throw in the clutch. I am sorry I subjected you to game 5 where you so astutely asked - 'how come Reggie never shoots?'

And I am really sorry that Jonathon Bender - someone who has been on the team almost as long as you have been alive - still has not developed into a player that could even carry a mediocre player from Kentucky's jock.

I am sorry that Ron Artest will break your heart again - he is our headache, and he will contunue to be for the foreseeable future.

I am sorry that Al Harrington never became as good as a Davis.

I am sorry that you root for a team whose secret weapon is a guy from Providence who couldn't guard you.

I am sorry that I let you get sucked in with me - thinking that this was the year - the year with the home court. Hope can be a cruel mistress.

It is not too late - you can become a bandwagon fan and actually celebrate a championship in your lifetime. Hurry, change your allegiances. You can actually change them every year - many people do that.

Because son, this just hurts too damn much - and it happens every year. Every f-ing year.


this is my kind of post. painful, bitter, biting, and twinged with humor.

able
05-30-2005, 09:11 PM
and 12 months old

abington
05-30-2005, 09:13 PM
and 12 months old

great writing is great writing.

3ptmiller
05-31-2005, 03:34 AM
Listen to your daddy kid... :)

aceace
05-31-2005, 05:17 AM
I feel somewhat like a Redsox fan. I was really too young to enjoy the ABA championships. Somebody mentioned IU and all 3 of those were great, but the traditions that Coach Knight built have been destroyed. Like him or not he got us to the final four and won 3 times and would have been 5 if not for injuries.

This year was tough on everybody on the forum, even the Piston fans on here had to be somewhat embarassed for the malace in the palace. As bad as it was it was truly wonderful to see the fans rally behind this team. There were a few golden moments, the game after the brawl which we almost pulled out, the first trip back to the palace. The comebacks after being humiliated by Boston and the game 7 win there. We saw a few of the young guys excel JJ andFreddie. We got DD back. I've aired my frustration and as Arnold says "I will be back"....

brich
05-31-2005, 06:58 AM
You are singing my song Doug. I am also 35 years old, so I have lived through the same trials and tribulations. :)

I lived in Boston for five years, and I was always fascinated with the sadomasochistic martydom that infected so many different individuals. My neighbor Rob was the classic Sox fan. He was literally consumed by the Red Sox. He would watch them on television, or if he was in the yard, he would listen to them on the radio. He never missed a game, and almost as if it was on cue, every year it seemed the Yankee's would roll right over them.

I am not really much of a baseball fan these days, although I was when I was younger. I used to have the attention span to listen to the Reds play on television or the radio, but somehow over the years, I have just lost interest. The difference with baseball versus some other sports is that the time investment for a fan is just unreal. The games go on for hours, and sometimes you get those games that last until 2:00 AM. My friend Rob watched them all, and he absorbed loss after loss every year.

It was like watching Charlie Brown trying to kick that damned football every year, Lucy would always pull it away and he would land flat on his back. Hell, even the Patriots were no prize for many years before they won a championship. I don't keep up with hockey much, but it seems like it has been years since the Bruin's have won the Stanley Cup also. Boston has definitely excorcised some sports demons over the last couple of years.

I hope that as a Colt/Pacer fan that I don't have to go through what Red Sox fans endured. There is definitely a more level playing field in basketball versus baseball because of the salary cap. I have hope, and I do think we have a chance of winning it all if we can somehow harness the talent of this team. I think our window of time is short with this roster though. Hopefully with some healthy bodies, and with a little bit of luck, we will get another shot with this team.

I will be rooting for them either way, but God, a championship would be nice. :)

Doug in CO
05-31-2005, 09:53 AM
It is unfortunate that my post from last year still resonates as much as it does.

The Boston fan never had anything to cry about - they had the Celtics and eventually the Patriots. I live next to one that I am shocked I have not killed yet. By the way brich - your Avatar is my favorite on the forum. Second place, steak knives... third place, you're fired

As a Colts/Pacers fan... well I do not have the time to let that depression envelop me right now

FiestyFosterFanatic
05-31-2005, 02:43 PM
Even if they do lose every year, you gotta keep faith. Gotta keep thinking in the back of your mind how sweet it will be once the Pacers/Colts/Cubs win the championship in my lifetime. If just one of them wins a championship, I will be happy, because it will be such a fun experience for myself, and every other fan in the city. We have all these glorious memories, and horrible memories, but they will all be worth it once we see the Vince Lombardi Trophy in the Dome (or the new place) or the NBA Finals Banner hanging from Conseco Fieldhouse. I will be able to tell my kids, I saw James Jones hitting clutch shots like Reggie Miller used to to lead the Pacers to the NBA Title. Oh what a wonderful day it will be.

Evan_The_Dude
05-31-2005, 02:54 PM
At least no one here is a :warriors: :clippers: fan. Now that has to be brutal. :laugh: Keep hope alive. Hey im in the office today with Pacer hat and a big bright Pacer yellow jersey. Im with this team forever win or lose. :boomer:

My second favorite team is the Warriors...only because I'm forced to watch them every year when nothing else is on. They'll be a playoff team next season though unless BD goes down with an injury, and what are the odds of that? :rolleyes:

FiestyFosterFanatic
05-31-2005, 04:26 PM
About 100%...which is also the same odds that Bender won't play an entire season.