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aero
01-28-2008, 07:54 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3219395

...hmmm

Indiana Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -3.7 ppg, -0.2 rpg, and +2.3 apg.

<table class="breakdowntable" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <th colspan="2" scope="col">Incoming Players</th> </tr> <tr> <td class="photo"> http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Carter_Vince_njn.jpg </td> <td> Vince Carter
6-6 SG / SF from North Carolina
21.0 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 5.0 apg in 38.6 minutes </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="photo"> http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Kidd_Jason_njn.jpg </td> <td class="even"> Jason Kidd
6-4 PG from California
11.3 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 10.4 apg in 37.3 minutes </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table class="breakdowntable" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <th colspan="2" scope="col">Outgoing Players</th> </tr> <tr> <td class="photo"> http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Tinsley_Jamaal_ind.jpg </td> <td> Jamaal Tinsley
6-1 PG from Iowa State
12.5 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 8.6 apg in 34.2 minutes</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="photo"> http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Daniels_Marquis_ind.jpg </td> <td class="even"> Marquis Daniels
6-5 SG from Auburn
8.2 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 2.0 apg in 19.9 minutes</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="photo"> http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/ONeal_Jermaine_ind.jpg </td> <td> Jermaine O'Neal
6-11 PF from Eau Claire (HS)
15.3 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 2.5 apg in 31.3 minutes</td> </tr> </tbody></table>


New Jersey Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +3.7 ppg, +0.2 rpg, and -2.3 apg.

<table class="breakdowntable" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <th colspan="2" scope="col">Incoming Players</th> </tr> <tr> <td class="photo"> http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Tinsley_Jamaal_ind.jpg </td> <td> Jamaal Tinsley
6-1 PG from Iowa State
12.5 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 8.6 apg in 34.2 minutes </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="photo"> http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Daniels_Marquis_ind.jpg </td> <td class="even"> Marquis Daniels
6-5 SG from Auburn
8.2 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 2.0 apg in 19.9 minutes </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="photo"> http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/ONeal_Jermaine_ind.jpg </td> <td> Jermaine O'Neal
6-11 PF from Eau Claire (HS)
15.3 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 2.5 apg in 31.3 minutes </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table class="breakdowntable" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <th colspan="2" scope="col">Outgoing Players</th> </tr> <tr> <td class="photo"> http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Carter_Vince_njn.jpg </td> <td> Vince Carter
6-6 SG / SF from North Carolina
21.0 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 5.0 apg in 38.6 minutes</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="photo"> http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Kidd_Jason_njn.jpg </td> <td class="even"> Jason Kidd
6-4 PG from California
11.3 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 10.4 apg in 37.3 minutes</td> </tr> </tbody></table>
Trade ID #4443560 (http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=4443560)



would never happen i know lol but hey i tried it just for fun

jmoney2584
01-28-2008, 08:05 PM
OMG I think i just threw up in my mouth!!...a little..

No way do we do this, Carter's contract is longer than JO's and Kidd wouldn't resign with us for anything cheap...not to mention the last thing we need to do is trade for an oft-injured shell of himself and old *** Jason "I beat my wife and child" Kidd. We need draft picks this year and expiring contracts that are worth a da/\/\N

:onozomg:

Arcadian
01-28-2008, 08:14 PM
I don't think Kidd is looking to be traded a team struggling to make the playoffs in the East.

Reckoner
01-28-2008, 08:25 PM
Despite his numbers Kidd is ordinary these days. Plus he's a tosser. No thanks.

jmoney2584
01-28-2008, 08:29 PM
Tossers and Sheep Shaggahz...the whole lot o'them

JayRedd
01-28-2008, 08:30 PM
Despite his numbers Kidd is ordinary these days. Plus he's a tosser. No thanks.

Sure...lot's of guys have 11 triple doubles. Ho hum.

What's a tosser?

idioteque
01-28-2008, 08:38 PM
Someone please tell me why Kidd would have any interesting playing here at all.

avoidingtheclowns
01-28-2008, 08:53 PM
no one in indiana likes bob ryan either

Hicks
01-28-2008, 08:53 PM
I'll throw my hat in the ring:

http://pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=36512

Shade
01-28-2008, 09:21 PM
If NJ trades Kidd, they'll probably be looking to rebuild. I could see Cleveland trying to initiate a multi-team deal to net Kidd.

aero
01-28-2008, 09:25 PM
I thought Cleveland was going after Bibby ?

Shade
01-28-2008, 09:27 PM
I thought Cleveland was going after Bibby ?

Who would you rather have out of the two?

aero
01-28-2008, 09:28 PM
good point ;)

Reckoner
01-28-2008, 09:57 PM
Sure...lot's of guys have 11 triple doubles. Ho hum.

What's a tosser?

Just scraping in on points with a horrible %. Nearly 4 turnovers per game. Good assists numbers. Good rebound numbers but do you really care about your PGs rebounding stats? Leading a team with Carter and Jefferson to a crap win %. I'd say that's ordinary.

Tosser = w anker.

Edit: almost forgot to mention his rubbish defense.

Kofi
01-28-2008, 10:06 PM
I think Kidd's become overrated, and the Net's horrible underachieving just goes to prove it. If Kidd were as great as he's made out to be, the Net's wouldn't be nearly as bad as they are. Carter's still performing well and Jefferson's having a career year. People use the "he's averaging almost a triple double" line, but if you actually look into, it's not nearly as impressive as one would think. Like was mentioned, his offense is almost Tinsley-level bad. How a guy spends 14 years averaging 35 minutes a game and still can't shoot is beyond me. He's a great passer and the best rebounding guard in the league, but his offense brings his entire game down a couple notches.

Shade
01-28-2008, 10:54 PM
I think Kidd's become overrated, and the Net's horrible underachieving just goes to prove it. If Kidd were as great as he's made out to be, the Net's wouldn't be nearly as bad as they are. Carter's still performing well and Jefferson's having a career year. People use the "he's averaging almost a triple double" line, but if you actually look into, it's not nearly as impressive as one would think. Like was mentioned, his offense is almost Tinsley-level bad. How a guy spends 14 years averaging 35 minutes a game and still can't shoot is beyond me. He's a great passer and the best rebounding guard in the league, but his offense brings his entire game down a couple notches.

The Nets are bad because they play no defense, just like your Indiana Pacers. That's right; the Nets are a more-talented (but worse-coached) version of the Pacers.

NJ also no longer specializes in the up-tempo offense that won them a lot of games in the past. The league is faster now and there a lot of teams that do what they used to do, but better (Phoenix, Golden State, Washington, etc.).

Naptown_Seth
01-28-2008, 11:13 PM
The Nets are bad because they play no defense, just like your Indiana Pacers. That's right; the Nets are a more-talented (but worse-coached) version of the Pacers.
Which brings to mind another Rick-like situation. Remember how Kidd ran Byron Scott out (allegedly) and then everyone lapped up the kool-aid on Larry Frank? Now look at the standings and the rosters for NO vs NJ. To me it's clear that Scott is the better coach and that NJ made a mistake dumping him. But boy did people think Lawrence was brilliant with that initial winning streak.

tora tora
01-28-2008, 11:14 PM
Someone please tell me why Kidd would have any interesting playing here at all.
I can't think of a single player in the league that would have interest in playing for the Pacers. They have players already on the roster itching and clawing to get out of here.

Pacers4Life
01-28-2008, 11:15 PM
Someone please tell me why Kidd would have any interesting playing here at all.

stacy paetz

Lord Helmet
01-28-2008, 11:27 PM
While I'd enjoy seeing what would happen with Kidd and Carter on the squad, I just severely doubt anything like the deal listed above happens. Anything can happen I suppose, though, especially with the state the Pacers are in now. Who knows, I just doubt it.

Some may want it, but I think it not probably happening or having a chance will be better for us in the long run.

Believe me, I'd love to have a consistent shooter on the team AKA Vince Carter, but the thoughts of him being broken down and stuff like that just turn me off. If Kidd was 29-31 years of age like Carter, I'd be more apt to try to make something happen.

But in reality Kidd is in the waning years of his career, and it seems Carter will be there soon, if not already there.

But with the state we're in right now, I don't think I'd be too upset if I saw tomorrow that we traded JO/Tinsley and got back Kidd/Carter.

That's just how bad things are.

But there is one thing that is certain, and I think we can all agree on this. Something needs to happen. We have to make a trade around or before the deadline. You're dead last in attendance, the play has been terrible and you are very short on talent. If you can make a trade that upgrades your talent, at this point, I think you have to.

Upgrade in talent could mean a good player, which in hand hopefully tells fans that we're trying to do something. We get some wins, hopefully, with the new guys, the team gets a desperately needed spark of energy and the majority or at least more of the fan base slowly starts to at least pay attention to this team again.

Young
01-28-2008, 11:48 PM
I'd love to have Jason Kidd on this team but he will not want to play here. Period.

I think that the Cavs, Lakers, Mavs will be the possible destination for Kidd.

docpaul
01-29-2008, 01:37 AM
If NJ trades Kidd, they'll probably be looking to rebuild. I could see Cleveland trying to initiate a multi-team deal to net Kidd.

Gosh, I don't know what (if any) leverage NJ has at this point, given his verified request to leave town.

Maybe it's too obvious, but what about a JO for Kidd straight up trade? I think it'd actually do wonders for the team. Likely the best offer that Nets could get at this point, and would kill a couple of birds with one stone. They need to develop Marcus Williams anyways, so doubt they care about looking for a replacement.

What do we do with Tinsley? Let him ride the pine as Kidd's backup. :)

Kofi
01-29-2008, 01:46 AM
I'd be open to a 3-team trade with J.O. going to New Jersey, Kidd going to a 3rd team, and us getting some combination of youth/picks/expirings.

Kofi
01-29-2008, 02:02 AM
I know there's a trade board, but since this is about a player asking for a trade, and with trading J.O. constantly being talked about, I figured I'd post it here.

Here's something I would do, I think the Magic would do, and the Nets might do....

Nets Out: Jason Kidd, 2008 1st
Nets In: Jermaine O'Neal, Ike Diogu, 2008 Magic 1st, 2010 Magic 1st

Magic Out: Keyon Dooling (exp), Pat Garrity (exp), Tony Battie (exp), Carlos Arroyo (exp), 2008 1st, 2010 1st
Magic In: Jason Kidd

Pacers Out: Jermaine O'Neal, Ike Diogu
Pacers In: Keyon Dooling (exp), Pat Garrity (exp), Tony Battie (exp), Carlos Arroyo (exp), 2008 Nets 1st

That would completely remove J.O.'s contract at seasons end while at the same time giving us another pick in the 10-15 range.

The Nets replace unhappy Kidd with J.O., who's 5 years younger, and while they lose their own 1st, pick up the Magics this year and the Magics 2010.

The Nets lose a bunch of expiring, but they pick up a PG that would raise their team to true contendership for this season and at least 3 or 4 more.

This is just a rough draft I came up with in no more than 5 minutes. You could replace Diogu with Tinsley, which could be another reputation/salary shed, and with Arroyo coming on board, he could be an adequate starter for us.

BoomBaby31
01-29-2008, 02:45 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3219395

...hmmm

Indiana Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -3.7 ppg, -0.2 rpg, and +2.3 apg.

<TABLE class=breakdowntable width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TH scope=col colSpan=2>Incoming Players</TH></TR><TR><TD class=photo>http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Carter_Vince_njn.jpg </TD><TD>Vince Carter
6-6 SG / SF from North Carolina
21.0 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 5.0 apg in 38.6 minutes
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo>http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Kidd_Jason_njn.jpg </TD><TD class=even>Jason Kidd
6-4 PG from California
11.3 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 10.4 apg in 37.3 minutes
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class=breakdowntable width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TH scope=col colSpan=2>Outgoing Players</TH></TR><TR><TD class=photo>http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Tinsley_Jamaal_ind.jpg </TD><TD>Jamaal Tinsley
6-1 PG from Iowa State
12.5 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 8.6 apg in 34.2 minutes
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo>http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Daniels_Marquis_ind.jpg </TD><TD class=even>Marquis Daniels
6-5 SG from Auburn
8.2 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 2.0 apg in 19.9 minutes
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo>http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/ONeal_Jermaine_ind.jpg </TD><TD>Jermaine O'Neal
6-11 PF from Eau Claire (HS)
15.3 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 2.5 apg in 31.3 minutes
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


New Jersey Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +3.7 ppg, +0.2 rpg, and -2.3 apg.

<TABLE class=breakdowntable width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TH scope=col colSpan=2>Incoming Players</TH></TR><TR><TD class=photo>http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Tinsley_Jamaal_ind.jpg </TD><TD>Jamaal Tinsley
6-1 PG from Iowa State
12.5 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 8.6 apg in 34.2 minutes
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo>http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Daniels_Marquis_ind.jpg </TD><TD class=even>Marquis Daniels
6-5 SG from Auburn
8.2 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 2.0 apg in 19.9 minutes
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo>http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/ONeal_Jermaine_ind.jpg </TD><TD>Jermaine O'Neal
6-11 PF from Eau Claire (HS)
15.3 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 2.5 apg in 31.3 minutes
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class=breakdowntable width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TH scope=col colSpan=2>Outgoing Players</TH></TR><TR><TD class=photo>http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Carter_Vince_njn.jpg </TD><TD>Vince Carter
6-6 SG / SF from North Carolina
21.0 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 5.0 apg in 38.6 minutes
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo>http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Kidd_Jason_njn.jpg </TD><TD class=even>Jason Kidd
6-4 PG from California
11.3 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 10.4 apg in 37.3 minutes
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Trade ID #4443560 (http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=4443560)



would never happen i know lol but hey i tried it just for fun

That is the best we could get for JO and Tins so why not? We'd be an instant contender. DG and VC would play much better together then RJ and VC. We'd shed our poison and injured multi-millionaire. The only thing is: I read the Nets what a young prospect, draft pick and an expiring contract, so I doubt we could fill that. Supposedly they turned down a deal for Iverson, I highly doubt they want JO.

Tom White
01-29-2008, 09:55 AM
Gosh, I don't know what (if any) leverage NJ has at this point, given his verified request to leave town.



They have the same leverage that the Lakers had with Bryant.

They hold his contract.

Anthem
01-29-2008, 10:08 AM
They have the same leverage that the Lakers had with Bryant.

They hold his contract.
Kidd doesn't have a no-trade clause.

Tom White
01-29-2008, 11:00 AM
Kidd doesn't have a no-trade clause.

I would think that gives New Jersey even more leverage. Kidd cannot determine his destination.

That being said, I don't think that NJ would try to send him to Siberia, but they do hold the cards.

idioteque
01-29-2008, 11:05 AM
I know there's a trade board, but since this is about a player asking for a trade, and with trading J.O. constantly being talked about, I figured I'd post it here.

Here's something I would do, I think the Magic would do, and the Nets might do....

Nets Out: Jason Kidd, 2008 1st
Nets In: Jermaine O'Neal, Ike Diogu, 2008 Magic 1st, 2010 Magic 1st

Magic Out: Keyon Dooling (exp), Pat Garrity (exp), Tony Battie (exp), Carlos Arroyo (exp), 2008 1st, 2010 1st
Magic In: Jason Kidd

Pacers Out: Jermaine O'Neal, Ike Diogu
Pacers In: Keyon Dooling (exp), Pat Garrity (exp), Tony Battie (exp), Carlos Arroyo (exp), 2008 Nets 1st

That would completely remove J.O.'s contract at seasons end while at the same time giving us another pick in the 10-15 range.

The Nets replace unhappy Kidd with J.O., who's 5 years younger, and while they lose their own 1st, pick up the Magics this year and the Magics 2010.

The Nets lose a bunch of expiring, but they pick up a PG that would raise their team to true contendership for this season and at least 3 or 4 more.

This is just a rough draft I came up with in no more than 5 minutes. You could replace Diogu with Tinsley, which could be another reputation/salary shed, and with Arroyo coming on board, he could be an adequate starter for us.

I like this trade, it depends on if the Nets are willing to endure a longterm rebuilding process. If they've concluded that it's not a Kidd-issue persay and that they just don't have the talent to win, thus they need to rebuild, than this is a deal they make.

jmoney2584
01-29-2008, 11:44 AM
That is the best we could get for JO and Tins so why not? We'd be an instant contender. DG and VC would play much better together then RJ and VC. We'd shed our poison and injured multi-millionaire. The only thing is: I read the Nets what a young prospect, draft pick and an expiring contract, so I doubt we could fill that. Supposedly they turned down a deal for Iverson, I highly doubt they want JO.

What makes you think that VC would play better with DG than RJ? There is no evidence whatsoever so support that, as VC has never played THAT well in tandem with anybody. Jason Kidd is 34 yrs old and he wouldn't be happy playing here, I disagree it makes us an instant contender on all counts. To contend we would have to be able to beat the celtics, pistons, and magic in a 7 game series....this *new" roster would be just about as bad as the current nets roster hands down.

Rajah Brown
01-29-2008, 11:51 AM
I could see doing the hypothetical 3-way w/ NJ and Orlando. But
no fricking way on the deal just with NJ.

Kidd is close to being on his last legs and VC is a no-defense-playing
gunner with a 5-yr, $75-80 mil albatross of a contract. If TBTP was
ever dumb enough to make a deal like that, I'd probably just stop
following the Pacers altogether.

jmoney2584
01-29-2008, 12:01 PM
I could see doing the hypothetical 3-way w/ NJ and Orlando. But
no fricking way on the deal just with NJ.

Kidd is close to being on his last legs and VC is a no-defense-playing
gunner with a 5-yr, $75-80 mil albatross of a contract. If TBTP was
ever dumb enough to make a deal like that, I'd probably just stop
following the Pacers altogether.

OOH! TWO snapths in a cthircle! Haaaated iiiit

CableKC
01-29-2008, 01:06 PM
Kidd wants to go to a winning team that has a chance to win a Championship. There is no way that he will want to come to a borderline Playoff team ( in the East no less ) like the Pacers.

He may not have a No-Trade Clause like Kobe does.....but that doesn't mean that he will be happy goiing to any team that the Nets will send him to.

avoidingtheclowns
01-29-2008, 01:30 PM
from Yahoo! Sports Basketball Blog
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/nba_experts/post/Shocking-dialogue-Jason-Kidd-meets-with-Rod-Tho?urn=nba,64142



Shocking dialogue: Jason Kidd meets with Rod Thorn
By Kelly Dwyer
Tuesday, Jan 29, 2008 12:15 pm EST

Jason Kidd (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/2625/) wants out of New Jersey (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=ApJ4p8Ras59I_62FP8qb.Ly8vLYF?slug=aw-kidd012808&prov=yhoo&type=lgns), and Nets personnel boss Rod Thorn is more than willing to aid in any transaction that eases Kidd out of a Net uniform. The other day, Kidd's agent Jeff Schwartz told Thorn of Kidd's demand to be traded, and yesterday Kidd followed up on the demand in a meeting with Thorn.

You might not believe it, but we have the transcript in hand


Jason Kidd: Jeff told you, huh?

Rod Thorn: Yes sir.

Kidd: Preferably, I'd like to go to the Lakers, Yankees, Mavericks, Heat, or Celtics.

Thorn: Yankees?

Kidd: Or Red Sox.

Thorn: The baseball-Boston Red Sox (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/teams/bos/)?

Kidd: I don't want Jason Collins (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3530/) to be traded with me. Dude steals my triple-doubles.

Thorn: What does that mean?

Kidd: A triple-double is when you get double-figures in points, rebounds, and assists.

Thorn: I know that, I meant ...

Kidd: No teams with blue uniforms.

Thorn: Have you seen what Dallas wears?

Kidd: On the flight out, I want an aisle seat. Something light for a in-flight entertainment. "Daddy Day Care (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daddy_day_care)" or that Rock movie with the girl and the ball with the sparkles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game_Plan_%28film%29).

Thorn: Jason, I'm going to have to stop you there.

Kidd: Nothing can stop me on my way to a championship. That's what I was put on Earth to do.

Thorn: Jason, you're not being interviewed, stop it. You do realize how hard it is to trade someone who makes as much money as you, right? You're making 19.7 million dollars this season.

Kidd: Yeah. I'm awesome.

Thorn: Be that as it may, we have to match that salary in any trade we make.

Kidd: Kwame makes that much.

Thorn: Kwame doesn't make that much. Very few people do.

Kidd: You make that much.

Thorn: No, I don't.

Kidd: Know why?

Thorn: Why, Jason?

Kidd: NO TRIP-LE DOUB-LESSS!

Thorn: Great. Either way, there's not a lot we can do under NBA salary cap law that could ease you into a new team.

Kidd: I break laws all the time. I don't even have draft picks to do it with.

Thorn: What?

Kidd: I mean, it's easier for you to break a law, because you can just send someone a draft pick to make up for it.

Thorn: No, I mean, you break laws all the time?

Kidd: Did you see where I parked today? Look. (Points to a window, Thorn peers outside.)

Thorn: Right on the sidewalk. Ran over some kid's bike, too.
(Kidd beams.)

Thorn: Brav-o.

Kidd: Not even my car. It's Josh Boone (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4151/)'s car. I took it, I'm keeping it. Josh Boone gets NO TRIP-LE DOUB-LES!

Thorn: You know, Malik Allen (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3507/) called me about this same sort of thing last month, and I just thought he was joking, or drunk, or both.

Kidd: Patriots!

Thorn: You like the Patriots on Sunday?

Kidd: You can trade me to the Patriots, broseph.

Thorn: No. No, I can't.

Kidd: Salary cap law? I told you: draft picks!

Thorn: Yeah, it doesn't work that way. Not without hurting my team. Not without taking back contracts of players that I don't want. Not without having to trade for Lamar Odom (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3327/) ...

Kidd: NO TRIP-LE DOUB-LES!

Thorn: Or Jason Terry (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3333/) ...

Kidd: NO TRIP-LE DOUB-LES!

Thorn: Or Nene Hilario (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3605/) ...

Kidd: NO TRIP-LE ... oh. My thoughts and prayers are with him, and his family. He just wants to win a championship, like me. That's all we're in it for.

Thorn: Jason, again, no reporters are here.

Kidd: What if you traded half of me to a team, like with Vince Carter (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3248/), and I could play half the time with the Lakers for half-price, and part of the time with the Nets?

Thorn: I don't know where to start. "Like with Vince Carter?"

Kidd: You know how he plays with the Raptors on the off days?

Thorn: He doesn't play with the Raptors. He's been a Net since December of 2004!

Kidd: He seems awfully tired. I just assumed.

Thorn: I honestly can't fault you, there.

Kidd: What if I go to David Stern, and say, like, "hey, David Stern. I'll give you, like, 14 triple-doubles if you let me go to the Lakers?"

Thorn: How do you give someone a triple-double?

Kidd: Just gave the Nuggets one (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore;_ylt=Am7B.vqYjK4X2RjOJNfip2ikvLYF?gid=200 8012507).

Thorn: Oh, I get it.

Kidd: Gave the Bobcats two, gave the Magic one, the Hawks one, gave triple-doubles to the whole damn Eastern seaboard.

Thorn: And what would David Stern do with his 14 triple-doubles?

Kidd: Whatever the hell he wants! Steal some [stuff] from the Cheesecake Factory, cold-**** a red-headed dude just for the hell of it, burn [stuff] ... it's a triple-double!

Thorn: I really wish I'd, you know, engaged in an actual conversation with you before signing that contract extension.

Kidd: '85 Bears!

Thorn: You want me to trade you to a football team from 23 years ago.

Kidd: The Triple-Double Shuffle! (Rapping) "My name is J-Kidd, and I like to pass. Rippin' triple-doubles is better than ro-mance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJNC3dgreaU) ..."

Thorn: You know who could really use some triple-doubles? The Hawks.

Kidd: I'm just here to win a championship. It's my life's ambition, and a dream I've had since I was a child. I'll do it anything for it.

Thorn: Did you just set my desk on fire?

CableKC
01-29-2008, 01:44 PM
^^^^ I know that I'm gonna open up a huge can of worms with this post......but highly paid Franchise Players going public with their demands to be traded cuz they are getting older and don't want to be in a losing situation is one of the reasons why I want JONeal traded before the start of the 2008/2009 Training Camp.

There....I said it....go ahead and flame me if you want.

JayRedd
01-29-2008, 03:00 PM
Thorn: And what would David Stern do with his 14 triple-doubles?

Kidd: Whatever the hell he wants! Steal some [stuff] from the Cheesecake Factory, cold-c0ck a red-headed dude just for the hell of it, burn [stuff] ... it's a triple-double!




Thorn: Jason, you're not being interviewed, stop it. You do realize how hard it is to trade someone who makes as much money as you, right? You're making 19.7 million dollars this season.

Kidd: Yeah. I'm awesome.



That might be the best thing I've ever read.

Ownagedood
01-29-2008, 03:01 PM
stacy paetz

LOL, that's so true. She's my favorite reporter.. :-p

jmoney2584
01-29-2008, 03:13 PM
LOL, that's so true. She's my favorite reporter.. :-p


Anyone who would travel outside their own neighborhood, let alone switch professional sports teams for Stacey Paetz has seriously bad taste in females or has just been that deprived of...whatever..for their entire lives. Maybe if you just got out of prison and it was a guaranteed toss, but let's be real...if you have seen her in person it's just not so tight. If you want a hot lady who is in to sports, come to the IU campus...it's a lot more....well, let's go with "fresh". :eyebrow: :dance:

Since86
01-29-2008, 04:04 PM
^^^^ I know that I'm gonna open up a huge can of worms with this post......but highly paid Franchise Players going public with their demands to be traded cuz they are getting older and don't want to be in a losing situation is one of the reasons why I want JONeal traded before the start of the 2008/2009 Training Camp.

There....I said it....go ahead and flame me if you want.

Why flame? That's already been the case three or four times, just every time it happens JO starts treading backwards saying he was misquoted.

Anytime something happens JO say's his misquoted. I mean it was just two weeks ago he said in the Star that he was thinking about sitting the season, then the next day it comes back that he wants to be back in two weeks? :rolleyes:

Oneal07
01-29-2008, 04:43 PM
I did a trade similar to this one in NBA 2k7 last year, but my trade didn't involve Oneal and Tins. It was Dunleavy and Murphy, for Just Vince Carter. My team was tight lol

grace
01-29-2008, 04:49 PM
The only way the Pacers are going to be an instant contender is if the Simons trade the whole team and coaching staff for what Boston has. And then Kidd can come here to be on a contender, but they'll still lose in the finals so as far as I'm concerned he's better off staying where he is.

In other words Jason, you had your shot in the finals and lost. Get over it. Not everyone can be Steve Kerr.

OnlyPacersLeft
01-29-2008, 04:52 PM
that was hillarious...

CableKC
01-29-2008, 06:23 PM
Why flame? That's already been the case three or four times, just every time it happens JO starts treading backwards saying he was misquoted.

Anytime something happens JO say's his misquoted. I mean it was just two weeks ago he said in the Star that he was thinking about sitting the season, then the next day it comes back that he wants to be back in two weeks? :rolleyes:
True.......I'm just waiting for the day that JONeal does say that he wants to be traded cuz he says that he doesn't fit in with the Pacers plans.

Mark my words....it's going to happen sometime between now and February of 2009 ( the trade deadline in the 2008-2009 season ).

Shade
01-29-2008, 06:28 PM
I wonder if the Lakers will put together an Odom/Brown offer for Kidd again.

jmoney2584
01-29-2008, 06:38 PM
I wonder if the Lakers will put together an Odom/Brown offer for Kidd again.

I don't know if that works moneywise...I think it clearly states in this article that Kwame alone makes as much as J Kidd :laugh:

Shade
01-29-2008, 11:10 PM
Would we have any interest in Devin Harris? Word is that Kidd wants to go to Dallas, which would make Harris expendable.

Kofi
01-29-2008, 11:13 PM
Damn straight we would have interest in Devin Harris. He's having a good season. Still not the greatest shooter in the world but he's working on it. He's similar to Tony Parker, but a much better defender.

If something could be worked out where Harris ended up here, J.O. went to Jersey, and Kidd went to Dallas, I would be thrilled. However, from what I've read, Dallas isn't willing to give up Harris even for Kidd.

jmoney2584
01-29-2008, 11:50 PM
Yea considering Harris is very talented with waayyy more years left in him than Kidd. Kidd would be going for broke for Dallas, once he is done for sure, Dallas would be stuck with no one to run the point...but who knows with Mark Cubans crazy ***, dude built his life making deals...he has no fear to trade.