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Doddage
01-16-2008, 09:37 PM
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</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3" height="7"></td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td height="7"></td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table class="stats" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr class="yspsctbg"> <td colspan="16" class="ysptblhdr" height="18"> Golden State </td> </tr> <tr class="ysptblthbody1" align="right"> <td class="yspdetailttl player" align="left" height="18" width="17%"> Name</td> <td class="yspdetailttl" width="4%"></td> <td class="yspdetailttl" width="7%">Min</td> <td class="yspdetailttl" width="7%">FG</td> <td class="yspdetailttl" width="6%">3Pt</td> <td class="yspdetailttl" width="6%">FT</td> <td class="yspdetailttl" width="6%">+/-</td> <td class="yspdetailttl" width="5%">Off</td> <td class="yspdetailttl" width="5%">Reb</td> <td class="yspdetailttl" width="5%">Ast</td> <td class="yspdetailttl" width="5%">TO</td> <td class="yspdetailttl" width="5%">Stl</td> <td class="yspdetailttl" width="5%">BS</td> <td class="yspdetailttl" width="5%">BA</td> <td class="yspdetailttl" width="5%">PF</td> <td class="yspdetailttl" width="7%">Pts </td> </tr> <tr class="ysprow1" align="right"> <td class="player" align="left"> B. Davis (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3326)</td> <td class="player"> G </td> <td>38:11</td> <td>7-16</td> <td>1-5</td> <td>9-11</td> <td> +4 </td> <td>0</td> <td>6</td> <td>7</td> <td>0</td> <td>7</td> <td>2</td> <td>1</td> <td>6</td> <td>24 </td> </tr> <tr class="ysprow2" align="right"> <td class="player" align="left"> M. Ellis (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3966)</td> <td class="player"> G </td> <td>37:45</td> <td>3-8</td> <td>0-0</td> <td>5-6</td> <td> +4 </td> <td>2</td> <td>3</td> <td>4</td> <td>3</td> <td>2</td> <td>0</td> <td>0</td> <td>3</td> <td>11 </td> </tr> <tr class="ysprow1" align="right"> <td class="player" align="left"> M. Barnes (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3643)</td> <td class="player"> C </td> <td>34:36</td> <td>8-15</td> <td>2-5</td> <td>0-0</td> <td> +4 </td> <td>2</td> <td>9</td> <td>6</td> <td>1</td> <td>1</td> <td>0</td> <td>0</td> <td>5</td> <td>18 </td> </tr> <tr class="ysprow2" align="right"> <td class="player" align="left"> S. Jackson (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3210)</td> <td class="player"> F </td> <td>40:31</td> <td>6-19</td> <td>1-8</td> <td>4-4</td> <td> +3 </td> <td>1</td> <td>3</td> <td>8</td> <td>4</td> <td>4</td> <td>0</td> <td>0</td> <td>3</td> <td>17 </td> </tr> <tr class="ysprow1" align="right"> <td class="player" align="left"> A. Harrington (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3268)</td> <td class="player"> F </td> <td>29:28</td> <td>7-17</td> <td>5-11</td> <td>3-4</td> <td> +14 </td> <td>2</td> <td>6</td> <td>0</td> <td>0</td> <td>1</td> <td>0</td> <td>0</td> <td>2</td> <td>22 </td> </tr> <tr class="ysprow2" align="right"> <td class="player" align="left"> A. Biedrins (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3828)</td> <td class="player"> </td> <td>20:23</td> <td>4-6</td> <td>0-0</td> <td>5-8</td> <td> -12 </td> <td>3</td> <td>4</td> <td>0</td> <td>1</td> <td>1</td> <td>0</td> <td>1</td> <td>5</td> <td>13 </td> </tr> <tr class="ysprow1" align="right"> <td class="player" align="left"> M. Pietrus (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3714)</td> <td class="player"> </td> <td>11:43</td> <td>1-4</td> <td>1-4</td> <td>0-0</td> <td> -19 </td> <td>0</td> <td>1</td> <td>0</td> <td>2</td> <td>0</td> <td>1</td> <td>0</td> <td>3</td> <td>3 </td> </tr> <tr class="ysprow2" align="right"> <td class="player" align="left"> K. Azubuike (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4030)</td> <td class="player"> </td> <td>11:42</td> <td>3-4</td> <td>1-1</td> <td>0-1</td> <td> -17 </td> <td>0</td> <td>2</td> <td>1</td> <td>0</td> <td>1</td> <td>1</td> <td>0</td> <td>3</td> <td>7 </td> </tr> <tr class="ysprow1" align="right"> <td class="player" align="left"> C.J. Watson (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4354)</td> <td class="player"> </td> <td>10:51</td> <td>0-0</td> <td>0-0</td> <td>1-2</td> <td> -10 </td> <td>0</td> <td>1</td> <td>2</td> <td>0</td> <td>1</td> <td>0</td> <td>0</td> <td>1</td> <td>1 </td> </tr> <tr class="ysprow2" align="right"> <td class="player" align="left"> A. Croshere (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3182)</td> <td class="player"> </td> <td>4:46</td> <td>0-2</td> <td>0-1</td> <td>1-1</td> <td> -11 </td> <td>0</td> <td>0</td> <td>0</td> <td>0</td> <td>0</td> <td>0</td> <td>0</td> <td>0</td> <td>1 </td> </tr> <tr class="ysprow1" align="right"> <td class="player" align="left"> P. O'Bryant (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4137)</td> <td class="player"> </td> <td class="dnp" colspan="14" align="center">DNP - Coach's Decision</td> </tr> <tr class="ysprow2" align="right"> <td class="player" align="left"> B. Wright (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4286)</td> <td class="player"> </td> <td class="dnp" colspan="14" align="center">DNP - Coach's Decision</td> </tr> <tr class="ysptblbdr3"> <td colspan="16" height="1"></td> </tr> <tr class="ysptblclbg5" align="right"> <td class="sum" align="left" height="18"> Totals</td> <td></td> <td></td> <td>39-91</td> <td>11-35</td> <td>28-37</td> <td></td> <td>10</td> <td>35</td> <td>28</td> <td>11</td> <td>18</td> <td>4</td> <td>2</td> <td>31</td> <td>117 </td> </tr> <tr align="right"> <td class="sum" align="left" height="18"> Percentages:</td> <td colspan="2"></td> <td>.429</td> <td>.314</td> <td>.757</td> <td></td> <td colspan="9" class="team-rebounds" align="left">Team Rebounds: 11 </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td height="7"></td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table class="stats" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr class="yspsctbg"> <td colspan="16" class="ysptblhdr" height="18"> Indiana </td> </tr> <tr class="ysptblthbody1" align="right"> <td class="yspdetailttl player" align="left" height="18" width="17%"> Name</td> <td class="yspdetailttl" width="4%"></td> <td class="yspdetailttl" width="7%">Min</td> <td class="yspdetailttl" width="7%">FG</td> <td class="yspdetailttl" width="6%">3Pt</td> <td class="yspdetailttl" width="6%">FT</td> <td class="yspdetailttl" width="6%">+/-</td> <td class="yspdetailttl" width="5%">Off</td> <td class="yspdetailttl" width="5%">Reb</td> <td class="yspdetailttl" width="5%">Ast</td> <td class="yspdetailttl" width="5%">TO</td> <td class="yspdetailttl" width="5%">Stl</td> <td class="yspdetailttl" width="5%">BS</td> <td class="yspdetailttl" width="5%">BA</td> <td class="yspdetailttl" width="5%">PF</td> <td class="yspdetailttl" width="7%">Pts </td> </tr> <tr class="ysprow1" align="right"> <td class="player" align="left"> K. Rush (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3618)</td> <td class="player"> G </td> <td>28:01</td> <td>7-11</td> <td>5-7</td> <td>0-0</td> <td> +16 </td> <td>1</td> <td>3</td> <td>0</td> <td>3</td> <td>2</td> <td>0</td> <td>0</td> <td>3</td> <td>19 </td> </tr> <tr class="ysprow2" align="right"> <td class="player" align="left"> A. Owens (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4048)</td> <td class="player"> G </td> <td>14:52</td> <td>1-2</td> <td>1-1</td> <td>0-0</td> <td> -10 </td> <td>0</td> <td>5</td> <td>4</td> <td>3</td> <td>1</td> <td>0</td> <td>0</td> <td>2</td> <td>3 </td> </tr> <tr class="ysprow1" align="right"> <td class="player" align="left"> J. O'Neal (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3120)</td> <td class="player"> C </td> <td>9:02</td> <td>0-1</td> <td>0-0</td> <td>0-0</td> <td> -14 </td> <td>1</td> <td>4</td> <td>0</td> <td>4</td> <td>0</td> <td>0</td> <td>0</td> <td>2</td> <td>0 </td> </tr> <tr class="ysprow2" align="right"> <td class="player" align="left"> M. Dunleavy (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3601)</td> <td class="player"> F </td> <td>44:12</td> <td>6-14</td> <td>1-6</td> <td>11-11</td> <td> +19 </td> <td>0</td> <td>9</td> <td>2</td> <td>4</td> <td>0</td> <td>0</td> <td>1</td> <td>4</td> <td>24 </td> </tr> <tr class="ysprow1" align="right"> <td class="player" align="left"> D. Granger (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3943)</td> <td class="player"> F </td> <td>40:27</td> <td>7-15</td> <td>3-6</td> <td>12-12</td> <td> -4 </td> <td>1</td> <td>9</td> <td>2</td> <td>4</td> <td>0</td> <td>2</td> <td>1</td> <td>3</td> <td>29 </td> </tr> <tr class="ysprow2" align="right"> <td class="player" align="left"> T. Diener (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3964)</td> <td class="player"> </td> <td>32:26</td> <td>2-12</td> <td>1-5</td> <td>6-6</td> <td> +15 </td> <td>0</td> <td>2</td> <td>6</td> <td>4</td> <td>0</td> <td>0</td> <td>0</td> <td>3</td> <td>11 </td> </tr> <tr class="ysprow1" align="right"> <td class="player" align="left"> J. Foster (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3344)</td> <td class="player"> </td> <td>21:07</td> <td>2-2</td> <td>0-0</td> <td>2-2</td> <td> +14 </td> <td>4</td> <td>12</td> <td>4</td> <td>0</td> <td>1</td> <td>0</td> <td>0</td> <td>4</td> <td>6 </td> </tr> <tr class="ysprow2" align="right"> <td class="player" align="left"> M. Daniels (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3764)</td> <td class="player"> </td> <td>20:40</td> <td>3-7</td> <td>0-1</td> <td>0-0</td> <td> -5 </td> <td>1</td> <td>3</td> <td>1</td> <td>0</td> <td>0</td> <td>0</td> <td>1</td> <td>1</td> <td>6 </td> </tr> <tr class="ysprow1" align="right"> <td class="player" align="left"> T. Murphy (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3524)</td> <td class="player"> </td> <td>17:50</td> <td>6-7</td> <td>1-2</td> <td>3-5</td> <td> +8 </td> <td>2</td> <td>5</td> <td>3</td> <td>1</td> <td>1</td> <td>0</td> <td>0</td> <td>3</td> <td>16 </td> </tr> <tr class="ysprow2" align="right"> <td class="player" align="left"> S. Williams (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4145)</td> <td class="player"> </td> <td>11:21</td> <td>4-11</td> <td>1-2</td> <td>2-2</td> <td> +1 </td> <td>3</td> <td>3</td> <td>0</td> <td>1</td> <td>0</td> <td>0</td> <td>1</td> <td>2</td> <td>11 </td> </tr> <tr class="ysprow1" align="right"> <td class="player" align="left"> S. Graham (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4012)</td> <td class="player"> </td> <td class="dnp" colspan="14" align="center">DNP - Coach's Decision</td> </tr> <tr class="ysprow2" align="right"> <td class="player" align="left"> D. Harrison (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3846)</td> <td class="player"> </td> <td class="dnp" colspan="14" align="center">DNP - Coach's Decision</td> </tr> <tr class="ysptblbdr3"> <td colspan="16" height="1"></td> </tr> <tr class="ysptblclbg5" align="right"> <td class="sum" align="left" height="18"> Totals</td> <td></td> <td></td> <td>38-82</td> <td>13-30</td> <td>36-38</td> <td></td> <td>13</td> <td>55</td> <td>22</td> <td>24</td> <td>4</td> <td>2</td> <td>4</td> <td>27</td> <td>125 </td> </tr> <tr align="right"> <td class="sum" align="left" height="18"> Percentages:</td> <td colspan="2"></td> <td>.463</td> <td>.433</td> <td>.947</td> <td></td> <td colspan="9" class="team-rebounds" align="left">Team Rebounds: 6 </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td height="7"></td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="yspsctbg"> <td class="ysptblhdr" height="18"> Game Info</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="yspnotice"> Technical Fouls: None</td></tr></tbody></table>

granger33
01-16-2008, 09:40 PM
Foster and Rush played great in the 4th.

big games from Mike and Granger aswell.

Loved watchin that last quater.

Lord Helmet
01-16-2008, 09:42 PM
We had 38 free throws tonight and made 36......

Let's do that more often.

Granger, Rush really sparked the Pacers in the fourth, Foster made his presence known in the fourth while Troy did his share in the first half.

Alpolloloco
01-16-2008, 09:42 PM
After that horrific start a great win by our team.

We outrebounded GSW by 20 rebounds (thanks to Foster!), and we were almost spotless from the stripe.

Is this the last game of JO as a Pacer? And Tinsley too (please)?

andreialta
01-16-2008, 09:42 PM
Man, the unsung hero, Jeff Foster

Danny was steady all throughout

Mike had some great drives in the 4th, the ones that made me cringe at first and then jump after it goes in

Kareem Rush, silent throughout the game, and then boom.. played superb

after scoring 19 in the 1st, i neevr would have thought that we can score 46 in a quarter in this game

kester99
01-16-2008, 09:43 PM
I really wanted those guys to keep fouling us all the way to the last second. A 50-point final period would have been something.

ABADays
01-16-2008, 09:44 PM
I have to admit to being absolutely stunned.

I heard Conrad talking about Foster on the pregame show and possible reduced minutes. Why? WHY?

BTW - Happy Birthday Jeff.

dgranger
01-16-2008, 09:45 PM
Hey, didnt get to see the game. Did JO get hurt?

andreialta
01-16-2008, 09:48 PM
Hey, didnt get to see the game. Did JO get hurt?

whaaaat, you dint see the game!!!! i feel bad for you

the game was ugly all throughout for the pacers, except in the 4th

and JO never got hurt, he took one fade away shot, and after failing to catch so many passes, JOB just decided to rest him, so yah, i say sore knee, no injuries or nothin like that

Diener made so many bonehead plays! but made good ones too, but there were more stupid ones. The game jsut belonged to us, Danny, Kareen, Jeff, Mike really wanted it

granger33
01-16-2008, 09:49 PM
after scoring 19 in the 1st

18 ;)

ABADays
01-16-2008, 09:50 PM
Hey, didnt get to see the game. Did JO get hurt?

Only the team.

andreialta
01-16-2008, 09:51 PM
18 ;)

oh wow, good lookin out man!

aceace
01-16-2008, 09:52 PM
Whats really nice is coming back for once.

LoneGranger33
01-16-2008, 10:00 PM
Whats really nice is coming back for once.

46 Points in the 4th Quarter!? Holy ****! Too bad I missed it.

aero
01-16-2008, 10:02 PM
46 in the 4th WOW! that was awesome :D

Hailey12
01-16-2008, 10:03 PM
Whats nice is Tinsley and Oneal not playing in the 4th.

jeffg-body
01-16-2008, 10:05 PM
Nice game from Mike D, Granger and Rush.

tinsley#11
01-16-2008, 10:06 PM
Hell of a game to watch. At least we are on the winning side of the large point swing.

Unclebuck
01-16-2008, 10:15 PM
Let's not discount how Diener ran the team in the 4th. He keeps the ball moving, and his teammates know that.

LoneGranger33
01-16-2008, 10:37 PM
Let's not discount how Diener ran the team in the 4th. He keeps the ball moving, and his teammates know that.

His +/- stat was pretty good despite his 2 for 12 shooting. I usually don't give serious consideration to such a stat but for Travis I'll make an exception.

Oneal07
01-16-2008, 10:38 PM
I knew we had this game. Rush was spectacular. Hit some big shots, If we had got Baron out the last game we would have won that game also.

We are going to house Sacramento on Saturday. They are not ready to play with their new guys back. Toronto housed them

Edit: I hope we can get on a winning streak and get atleast 2 games over .500 before the all-star break

LoneGranger33
01-16-2008, 10:49 PM
I knew we had this game. Rush was spectacular. Hit some big shots, If we had got Baron out the last game we would have won that game also.

We are going to house Sacramento on Saturday. They are not ready to play with their new guys back. Toronto housed them

Edit: I hope we can get on a winning streak and get atleast 2 games over .500 before the all-star break

Someone better guard Kevin Martin, maybe limit him to 20 points on 6 of 7 shooting or something...

aceace
01-16-2008, 10:57 PM
Golden State set an NBA record for steals in a quarter with 12 in the opening period. The Warriors led 29-18 at the end of the quarter.

Before tonight 7 teams were tied with 11 steals in one qtr.

Oneal07
01-16-2008, 10:58 PM
Someone better guard Kevin Martin, maybe limit him to 20 points on 6 of 7 shooting or something...

I'm more worried about Bibby, he's fresh, and played well tonight against the Raps. Martin is going to be in adjust mode, so I doubt he'll have a monster game against us

Evan_The_Dude
01-16-2008, 11:15 PM
I'm more worried about Bibby, he's fresh, and played well tonight against the Raps. Martin is going to be in adjust mode, so I doubt he'll have a monster game against us

Um Martin had a better comeback than Bibby. They're both gonna be dangerous.

JayRedd
01-16-2008, 11:18 PM
Great comeback. Sick 4th.

OnlyPacersLeft
01-16-2008, 11:28 PM
I think we are obviously better without JO...good win!

indygeezer
01-16-2008, 11:37 PM
I tuned in about 1/2 way thru Q3 (I like to think I started the comeback) and I haven't read the in-game thread. I know he was supposed to be out with a sore knee, but where was Tinsley? Was he on the bench because I never saw him on TV if he was. They did show JO alot and I'll applaud him for cheering on his teamates in spite of not playing. He was there all smiles and clapping for them...but not one shot of JT was he there or awol?

docpaul
01-16-2008, 11:43 PM
I tuned in about 1/2 way thru Q3 (I like to think I started the comeback) and I haven't read the in-game thread. I know he was supposed to be out with a sore knee, but where was Tinsley? Was he on the bench because I never saw him on TV if he was. They did show JO alot and I'll applaud him for cheering on his teamates in spite of not playing. He was there all smiles and clapping for them...but not one shot of JT was he there or awol?

He was suspended, as Unclebuck and Mal called in the other thread.

http://www.nba.com/pacers/news/game_080116.html


The cause of Tinsley's absence was officially a sore left knee but Jackson said after the game the Pacers' point guard had been suspended. Told of Jackson's comment, the Pacers maintained it was injury related.

Dr. Goldfoot
01-17-2008, 12:10 AM
.....and the Pacers maintained it was injury related. Feel free to take Stephen Jackson for his word when it allows you to dog Jamaal Tinsley.

docpaul
01-17-2008, 12:17 AM
.....and the Pacers maintained it was injury related. Feel free to take Stephen Jackson for his word when it allows you to dog Jamaal Tinsley.

Sheesh, just trying to share some facts here, and now I'm being called a Tinsley basher. Classic.

Dr. Goldfoot
01-17-2008, 12:26 AM
The fact is the Pacers maintained it was injury related. You stated he was suspended. If the team comes out and says so okay.

Bridge
01-17-2008, 12:34 AM
Sounds similar to Artest missing a game due to a sore toe after coming off a suspension for punting the ball into the crowd...

It is about time we stop putting up with this behavior.

CableKC
01-17-2008, 12:47 AM
I missed the reason for JONeal sitting out the rest of the game. Was is officially due to injury?

I was thinking that JO'B was trying out some new strategy to rest JONeal for the majority of the 1st half and then put him in during the 4th QTR with fresh legs :shrug:

granger33
01-17-2008, 12:52 AM
JONeal for the majority of the 1st half and then put him in during the 4th QTR with fresh legs
But he didn't play the 4th quater??

JO was always cheering though, so thats a good sign.

Shade
01-17-2008, 01:06 AM
My car broke down on my way home (I'm just having a lousy year so far), so I only got to see the last minute or so. But it's always nice to beat Jack and Al, and it looks like they both had a lousy game to boot, which makes me feel even better. :)

bnd45
01-17-2008, 01:30 AM
I just finished watching the game. Here are a few thoughts:

1) I don't compliment him enough, but it was nice to see JO on the bench cheering with the rest of his teammates when he could've easily stayed in the locker room and gone home early. (I know Tinsley was MIA, but once again I didn't see Ike.)

2) Diener made some horrendous decisions and took some awful looking shots but he still outplayed Owens who couldn't handle the Warriors ball pressure. Aside from pushing the tempo Diener does a good job of getting somewhere with his dribble in the halfcourt and when the pass doesn't end up in the 8th row, guys get wide open shots.

3) Good to see Foster get in the game. And what do you know, he played great in the 4th. (Yes, Murphy also played well, but Jeff did a nice job on the high post on O and as always was great on D.)

4) I like the aggressiveness from Shawne Williams. He comes into games looking to score every time he has the ball. He's not just settling for jumpers either, he's putting the ball on the floor and trying to get to the hoop.

5) Speaking of attacking the basket, I thought Dunleavy was fantastic tonight down the stretch because for once we had a wing going to the hoop when it mattered. (Granger was a little better at this tonight, and his D against Jackson was great both games. He needs to bring that effort every night on the defensive end for us to move up in the standings.)

6) Rush once again showed that he's clutch. Any chance we can replay the final possession in Oakland from Sunday night and run something for Kareem?

7) Matt Barnes is still a punk. Clobber Dunleavy after you slipped when bumping into Granger and then get into verbally with Danny. I can't wait for him to get his.

FireTheCoach
01-17-2008, 02:52 AM
When the Pacers got down by 14 in Q1 I knew they would win this game... seriously I did.

This is the strangest team I have ever watched play. These guys take inconsistancy to another level.... not only are they inconsistant from day to day but they are inconsistant from minute to minute during a game.... they're capable of exploding on offense as witnessed tonight... and totally sucking at every aspect of the game all in the span of 48 minutes... and it's like this nearly every game so far this season...

It drives me crazy!

Will Galen
01-17-2008, 07:00 AM
I knew we had this game. Rush was spectacular. Hit some big shots, If we had got Baron out the last game we would have won that game also.

We are going to house Sacramento on Saturday. They are not ready to play with their new guys back. Toronto housed them

Edit: I hope we can get on a winning streak and get atleast 2 games over .500 before the all-star break

I think you are referring to being hosed, not housed. The way it is now you're saying Toronto put them up over night, and you want us to do the same Sat.

Will Galen
01-17-2008, 07:18 AM
I thought Danny, Dun, and Rush were all clutch in the 4th quarter. Danny had 14 points and 5 rebounds. Dun had 11 points and 4 rebounds, and Rush kept hitting big shots for 14 points.

That was all good. The bad thing about it is we needed them that way to win. How often will that happen?

I don't recall ever seeing a fadeaway like Rush shoots. Usually it's two hands over the head. I hope we resign him!

Unclebuck
01-17-2008, 07:52 AM
Some of you guys are really naive. Of course the Pacers would try to cover it up.

Major Cold
01-17-2008, 08:20 AM
Some of you guys are really naive. Of course the Pacers would try to cover it up.

How dare they spare whatever trade value Tins have. Shame on them. I think I won't renew my season tickets next year because of this. I want them to do what I want or I walk.:rolleyes:

indygeezer
01-17-2008, 08:23 AM
Was Ike at the game?

Unclebuck
01-17-2008, 08:26 AM
One thing no one ever compliments jeff on is his passing, but this season jeff is being used a lot in the high post area to make passes and to help get the ball to open teammates and last night you saw that he is pretty good at it.

Unclebuck
01-17-2008, 08:27 AM
Was Ike at the game?

Good question. I don't remember seeing him, but I didn't look for him either, so he might have been there. I was more concerned about looking to see if Tinsley ever showed up.


Rush is clutch, but really more than that he is a streaky shooter and once he gets on a streak, he is tough to stop.

BoomBaby33
01-17-2008, 08:30 AM
I think we are obviously better without JO...good win!

I second, third, forth, and fifth that notion.

With him 10-20
Without him now 6-2

Good win boys, awesome 4th quarter. First time in along time it seems that we outscored a team in the 4th quarter.

Rush and Granger driving the lane is helping tremendously to open up the outside shots and we are hitting them.

Diener and Foster had great games. Especially Foster. He again proves that we can easily live without JO. Diener's speed is surprising, and his passing can get a bit better, so we can also live without Tinman if we have to. Life will exist after JO and Tins.

Danny and DunDun carried us, which they should. It seems as they go, the Pacers go.

Go Pacers!!!

Erik
01-17-2008, 08:35 AM
Some of you guys are really naive. Of course the Pacers would try to cover it up. It makes sense too cover it up these days, I don't blame them for trying. That makes me think that they are not looking to trade Jamaal, if they were worried about trade value then they wouldn't have given him a suspension at all (at least not a minor one). Even if they were to keep the suspension from the media or the public, NBA teams probably would have still found out from someone in the players union. I think they were just trying to cover it up for the sake of hurting attendance anymore, too late.

BoomBaby33
01-17-2008, 08:48 AM
I just finished watching the game. Here are a few thoughts:

1) I don't compliment him enough, but it was nice to see JO on the bench cheering with the rest of his teammates when he could've easily stayed in the locker room and gone home early. (I know Tinsley was MIA, but once again I didn't see Ike.)

2) Diener made some horrendous decisions and took some awful looking shots but he still outplayed Owens who couldn't handle the Warriors ball pressure. Aside from pushing the tempo Diener does a good job of getting somewhere with his dribble in the halfcourt and when the pass doesn't end up in the 8th row, guys get wide open shots.

3) Good to see Foster get in the game. And what do you know, he played great in the 4th. (Yes, Murphy also played well, but Jeff did a nice job on the high post on O and as always was great on D.)

4) I like the aggressiveness from Shawne Williams. He comes into games looking to score every time he has the ball. He's not just settling for jumpers either, he's putting the ball on the floor and trying to get to the hoop.

5) Speaking of attacking the basket, I thought Dunleavy was fantastic tonight down the stretch because for once we had a wing going to the hoop when it mattered. (Granger was a little better at this tonight, and his D against Jackson was great both games. He needs to bring that effort every night on the defensive end for us to move up in the standings.)

6) Rush once again showed that he's clutch. Any chance we can replay the final possession in Oakland from Sunday night and run something for Kareem?

7) Matt Barnes is still a punk. Clobber Dunleavy after you slipped when bumping into Granger and then get into verbally with Danny. I can't wait for him to get his.

Excellent post bnd45, i'll like to add a few things to your thoughts if you dont mind.

1. I bet the Pacemates dont make $20M a year to cheer on their team. I hope they dont quit on us now.

2. Agreed. His tempo definitely fits Obies offense. Hes kinda scary good and scary bad at the same time.

3. Jeff is always the best hustler on the floor when hes out there. He is worth every penny TPTB pay him, because you know your going to get 110% effort all the time from him.

4. Given time, Shawne will blossom. He is our best pure shooter. His defense needs lots of help though.

5. DunDun, Granger, and Rush - all 3. Thats what it takes is taking it to the basket, it forces the refs to make calls. If we continue to do this, our free throw disrepency will get better.

6. Kareem is slowly becoming one of my favorite players on the team. He's not excellent at everything, he is just good at alot of things, especially his perimeter defense. He now is our stopper, because Danny just can't laterally move as well as Rush can.

7. Yeah, that foul was borderline punching and suspension material. Definitely way more rough than Tins flagrant in Oakland. Thinking about it now, I wonder if that was part of the reason why Tins was suspended for the game last night. Things that make you go hmmmmmmm.

Unclebuck
01-17-2008, 08:52 AM
I agree with Don Nelson.

http://www.nba.com/pacers/news/quotes_080116.html

We were beaten by a better team in the fourth quarter. They had their way with us. We just didn’t have enough down the stretch. We can’t keep digging ourselves out of a hole in this league. I think the turning point of the game was Jeff Foster. Also, the way they hit their shots under pressure."

Phildog
01-17-2008, 09:02 AM
Couple of points after this one:

1. I do not miss Al Harrington's game one bit.

2. Stepen Jackson is coming back to the old inconsistent Jack that we came to know and not love.

3. I never wanted to admit it, JO doesn't fit in with Dun Dun and Granger, and I don't think he ever will.

4. I think Tin man is getting shopped heavily by TPTB and he's making everyone aware that he is not happy again. He was an all-star before the injury and it all fell apart. Unfortunate for both parties.

5. You can see how the W's can be so dangerous if they are firing on all cylinders......other than that, it's entertaining, but very inconsistent.


Great Win, but it would be nice to see if we are actually going to purge ourselves of JT and JO before the trade deadline so we can get down to business and win some games.

Unclebuck
01-17-2008, 09:28 AM
I thought it was sad to see Al Harrington just standing at the three point line jacking up threes. I think he missed his 1st 5 and then started shooting better, but what happened to the rest of his game. He used to be able to post up, go one-on-one and I thought at least early in his career he was going to be a guy who could help create shots for others.

People can say all they want about how Al and Stephen have "turned around the Warriors" And yes jackson has played well for them and is a very valuable player for that team. But Baron Davis is the key for them, always has been and always will be, without him they are not close to a playoff team. he's one of the best players in the NBA

LoneGranger33
01-17-2008, 09:47 AM
Now is as good a time as any to go on a winning streak - Sacto, Philly, Chicago, Milwaukee, and Miami in our next five games.

Hicks
01-17-2008, 10:15 AM
Some of you guys are really naive. Of course the Pacers would try to cover it up.


How dare they spare whatever trade value Tins have. Shame on them. I think I won't renew my season tickets next year because of this. I want them to do what I want or I walk.:rolleyes:

I think it's foolish to cover it up.

1) It implies they condone what he did on some level because they didn't come straight forward and say "He's suspended because _______".

2) It feels slightly like a PR move ("Gee, if the fans here this, now they'll be even less likely to come to the game!")

3) It does NOTHING to help trade value because there are very, very few secrets (if any) amongst GMs. If we know, they know. So what are they really accomplishing? Nothing!

FireTheCoach
01-17-2008, 10:18 AM
I thought it was sad to see Al Harrington just standing at the three point line jacking up threes. I think he missed his 1st 5 and then started shooting better, but what happened to the rest of his game. He used to be able to post up, go one-on-one and I thought at least early in his career he was going to be a guy who could help create shots for others.

People can say all they want about how Al and Stephen have "turned around the Warriors" And yes jackson has played well for them and is a very valuable player for that team. But Baron Davis is the key for them, always has been and always will be, without him they are not close to a playoff team. he's one of the best players in the NBA

Al Harrington ... ya know I always thought Al was mediocre, actually I hated his game when he was a Pacer.... seeing him play the last couple years has only helped to re-enforce that opinion.

Surely YOU weren't one of those people that wanted to tell me how Baby Al was a lot better than I would give him credit for being... that guy is and always was str8 mediocre. More prone to losing you a game than winning it for you. Even as messed up as it is these days I am sooo thankful that the Al harrington/Austin Croshere days are over with around here.

Major Cold
01-17-2008, 10:26 AM
PR moves are in the best interests of the Pacers. With the fickle fan base and the Colts out of the playoffs it was not a good time to lose or have more incidants. DH screwed the pooch on the latter. So having Tins sit out and not telling directly will not have the same lasting effect if the Pacers come out and say it.

Seriously 2 months from now this "suspension" would have been fogotten if kept under the radar. But since it wasn't we look at it as negative and the intentions were stupid. I think the intentions were risky but smart. The execution was the problem that I had. Why not play him with JO and sit him at the same time? JO overshadows tins and aslong and tins shuts his mouth we are fine.

The PR move must have been just for the game last night.

avoidingtheclowns
01-17-2008, 11:50 AM
People can say all they want about how Al and Stephen have "turned around the Warriors" And yes jackson has played well for them and is a very valuable player for that team. But Baron Davis is the key for them, always has been and always will be, without him they are not close to a playoff team. he's one of the best players in the NBA

i'm not a sjax apologist by any means, but my argument would be to look at the warriors record this season with only baron davis then baron and sjax. they started the season 1-6 while he was suspended and now sit at 23-17. say what you will about his attitude, shot-jacking, official whining -- but jack is just as big of a part as baron (i doubt the warriors would perform much better if it were baron sitting out for 7 games).

NuffSaid
01-17-2008, 12:25 PM
I like what Don "Nellie" Nelson had to say about the game in his post-game comments.

"We (Warriors) were lucky to win that game (referring to the last time the Pacers played them). Tonight, I don't think they (Pacers) were lucky. They were better than us."

When you commit 13 turnovers in the first quarter for a total of 24 overall and you still get the win, that's a team coming back to play one helluva game! Well Done, boyz!!

Unclebuck
01-17-2008, 01:07 PM
i'm not a sjax apologist by any means, but my argument would be to look at the warriors record this season with only baron davis then baron and sjax. they started the season 1-6 while he was suspended and now sit at 23-17. say what you will about his attitude, shot-jacking, official whining -- but jack is just as big of a part as baron (i doubt the warriors would perform much better if it were baron sitting out for 7 games).

I would have to look at the teams the Warriors played during that stretch, and how the other Warrior players were playing. But there is no doubt in my mind that baraon is more important than Jax is.

pretty tough schedule to start the season., and the Warriors started 0-6.

Jazz
at Clips
at Jazz
Cavs
Dallas
Detroit

Those were the 6 losses, and the Clippers remember started the season 5-0

LoneGranger33
01-17-2008, 02:17 PM
And the Jazz started pretty hot too.

d_c
01-17-2008, 03:19 PM
A good win for the Pacers. Great performance from their role players and they never gave up.

A bad loss for the Warriors, but truth is they've had such a game coming for quite some time. They had played poorly with double digit 4th quarter leads in previous games against the likes of the Wolves (twice) and Grizz. They had big leads in the 4th only to fail to put the game away and let their opponent hang around, so they had this coming.

The Warriors for the most part are an overachieving bunch that doesn't really have much margin for error. This game showed that.

They're probably not quite as good as their record indicates, but they do play hard, and they've played most of their "tough" schedule already.

NorCal_Pacerfan
01-17-2008, 07:37 PM
Man, that was some comeback and I'm stoked we beat GS after the loss the other night. I thought for sure we were done for going into the fourth. What a gutty gritty win for some of these guys, esp without JO and Tins.