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idioteque
01-16-2008, 10:00 PM
I grew up in small town Indiana, and when I went to college in Washington, D.C. four years ago I swore to myself that I'd never go back to the land of cornfields again.

As I've lived here in D.C. longer I've been able to tolerate it less and less. Snobby, distant people, packed Metro trains, high cost of living, and the number of dangerous parts of the city have really turned me off as I've been here longer. It seems like most people are either really, really ghetto or a snobby government employee. It's sort of like a third world country, there's no middle class.

I have a longterm girlfriend here who I plan on living with after college, and I recently told her that in a year or so I want to move back to Indiana eventually. I expected sparks to fly at this suggestion, but actually she's open to the idea and said that if I wanted it, she would move there with me and not have any problem with it at all.

This is something I have thought long and hard about. In a way moving to Indianapolis is like moving somewhere entirely new for me, because while I have lived in the Indianapolis area for a large part of my life I was never able to experience it as a real adult, since I left when I was 17 and don't really come back too frequently due to work and school.

IF I can find a job I think I would really consider it. My only concern is that there are "no things to do" in Indianapolis as my girlfriend and I have enjoyed the cultural amenities here. Some people say that is not true, some people say that it is. What do you think? Have any of you moved back to Indianapolis from somewhere else, what brought you back? I admit that part of it has to do with the Colts and the Pacers, I miss my family's season tickets.

So what drove you out forever/brought you back?

rexnom
01-16-2008, 10:12 PM
Please, Indy peeps, don't take offense to what I am about to write.

Also, keep in mind that I'm a self-admitted East Coast prick from Boston that went to high school in Indy.

That being said, why in God's name would you want to leave DC for Indy?

There's a huge "middle class" in DC! Sure most of us are "yuppies," but we're there. I have a long-term girlfriend myself and we absolutely love it in DC. It helps that we're both political junkies and such but really what cinches it is places like Adams Morgan and U st.

I could never live in Indy again, personally, because I always feel disconnected when I go back there even for just a few days. I think it depends on the person but I love the feeling of being able to walk everywhere here; I love going on the metro to places (even though there is always track work...always).

To make things better, DC is a whole 'nother beast post-graduation. I don't know how much you like the "yuppie" life style but being someone who loves it, DC has become the clear place to be for me.

idioteque
01-16-2008, 10:32 PM
What do you mean by the yuppie lifestyle? I am aware that a yuppie is a young urban professional, which I have always assumed to mean that those are rich kids working for the government living in gentrified neighborhoods. But I never really thought about it other than those couple of characteristics.

Maybe I'll like it more after I graduate. I know after I get out of school I think I'll be here for at least another year because there are some things I have to work out. So it will at least get its fair trial with me.

avoidingtheclowns
01-17-2008, 12:41 AM
i agree with with rexnom. i'd find it hard to move back to indiana... if i were to move midwest it'd probably be chicago.

but dc is a breath of fresh air for me (metaphorically, not literally -- i work in chinatown). i grew up in ft wayne then went to school in a town of 3600 surrounded by 12 miles of cornfields in every direction. it is nice not having to drive everywhere -- it is nice being able to walk from gallery place to georgetown if you want. the cost of living is outrageous no question (i rent a single room right now for the same amount i rented a 2bd furnished apt back at school) but its like 3.5hrs to NYC, 2hrs to Philly -- so location is nice.

rexnom
01-17-2008, 12:45 AM
i agree with with rexnom. i'd find it hard to move back to indiana... if i were to move midwest it'd probably be chicago.

but dc is a breath of fresh air for me (metaphorically, not literally -- i work in chinatown). i grew up in ft wayne then went to school in a town of 3600 surrounded by 12 miles of cornfields in every direction. it is nice not having to drive everywhere -- it is nice being able to walk from gallery place to georgetown if you want. the cost of living is outrageous no question (i rent a single room right now for the same amount i rented a 2bd furnished apt back at school) but its like 3.5hrs to NYC, 2hrs to Philly -- so location is nice.
Probably my single favorite thing about DC, oddly enough.

I guess the much hyped "Yuppie" life style is a kind of an overgeneralization. I just meant that there are A LOT of young, recent college graduates in DC that give it in an energy Indy couldn't even dream of. It's because of 20-somethings that I think the city has grown in evening/nightlife so much. And by this I don't just mean nightclubs; I mean restaurants, lounges, jazz clubs, etc.

indygeezer
01-17-2008, 12:53 AM
Indy is the better place to raise a family. BUT...outside Broad Ripple (which I no longer frequent) almost all entertainment IS family centered and there isn't all that much of it. You'd have to space it out to make it last a year before repeating yourself in venues. Nor, do I find the restaurants anything to brag about. On the other hand, I do not want to live anywhere else except maybe the desert Southwest.

Ergo, if you're not heavily into the night scene, it's a great place to live. But if you really really like getting out and going you may find yourself bored.

Remember this too...once away from school and working, you won't feel like going out all THAT much.

rexnom
01-17-2008, 01:11 AM
Indy is the better place to raise a family. BUT...outside Broad Ripple (which I no longer frequent) almost all entertainment IS family centered and there isn't all that much of it. You'd have to space it out to make it last a year before repeating yourself in venues. Nor, do I find the restaurants anything to brag about. On the other hand, I do not want to live anywhere else except maybe the desert Southwest.

Ergo, if you're not heavily into the night scene, it's a great place to live. But if you really really like getting out and going you may find yourself bored.

Remember this too...once away from school and working, you won't feel like going out all THAT much.
You don't necessarily have to love the nightscene to love what a city like DC has to offer, though. I love the fact that if I decided to eat out every Friday night, I could get a different cuisine every week for quite a while in DC.

Also, if you are talking about raising a family, DC-area has A LOT of jobs in a plethora of fields. At the same time, you could easily raise your family in suburban Virginia and Maryland and just commute or drive to work every day. I have a lot of friends in various parts of Maryland and some of the nice neighborhoods there remind me A LOT of Indy. Still, it's 45minutes from DC and Baltimore and a few hours from Philly and then NYC.

Sorry if I seem defensive about DC here, it's just that I spent a lot of time making the decision to come down here and I haven't regretted it for a second. I can easily see me spending the rest of my life in this area.

Are you considering any other places or is it just between DC and Indy?

avoidingtheclowns
01-17-2008, 01:27 AM
You don't necessarily have to love the nightscene to love what a city like DC has to offer, though. I love the fact that if I decided to eat out every Friday night, I could get a different cuisine every week for quite a while in DC.

and not only that but you can easily avoid major chain restaurants altogether - which is also what thrills me. i just spent 2wks in the midwest and my rule was that i wasn't going to eat at a chain, and it was more difficult/complicated than i originally anticipated. dc, while it doesn't have the restaurant culture of nyc, certainly has its fair share of great/diverse food.

Peck
01-17-2008, 06:05 AM
Well I was going to get on here an claim to be the old man and all, but then I look on here and see Geezer posting so now I feel young again.:p

Anyway, let me just ask DCPacersfan a couple of simple questions.

1. What do you want to do at 8 O'clock at night on the third Thursday in February?

2. What do you want to do at 10 O'Clock at night on the second Friday in July?

3. How many nights of the week do you want to be "out" doing something?

The answer to these questions can help provide you with a guide to where you want to go.

I've gone through both phases of my life of where and what I wanted to do.

I can remember when I was 20 years old (Good God that was 20 years ago, ok forget what I said I am the old man here) I wanted nothing more in my life than to be a Paramedic in the New York City Health System. But somewhere someway somehow I lost all desire to do that and live there. Now I am the exact opposite.

I live in a small city in a quiet neighborhood and have to commute to a big city for any form of real food or entertainment and I wouldn't have it any other way.

However I am a 40 year old man who has a grown son and a wife of 22 years. So going out to partys to "hook up" is not on my menu and really never was.

BTW, I love Georgetown. Great great part of the DC Metro area. However going a few blocks north and south of there made me very very nervous.

I even accidently crossed into Baltimore once and felt like I entered Baghdad from the looks of it.

Every reason you stated for wanting out of there is logical and every reason that Rexnom and ATC gave for staying also is logical.

It really just kind of depends on what you need/want.

Do we have arts and culture here? Yes, you have to look for it but it does exist. Not on the scale of DC or Chicago or NYC, etc., etc.

But it does exist.

Is there nightlife here? We will never be confused with southbeach but again it is there.

Are there good food joints here? Hundreds of thousands of fat Hoosiers can't lie.:) Again, you have to look for it. But the food is there.

Do we have sporting activities? Yip, however I would not recommend our local professional basketball team.:D

Traffic is no real problem. Believe me when we b@tch and moan about 465 and all of the other artery roads we really don't have a clue. I know people who have to sit for up to 2 hours almost every Monday trying to get on the Dan Ryan in Chicago.

Cost of living is reasonable. Job market is.... well that can be tricky. Depends on what you do for a living.

Decent schools? Well the metro area is actually better than some other inner city systems but the outlying suberban schools have more money than they know what to do with.

But the down side is this. On that third Thursday in February, there really isn't going to be much to do. You can eat out, you can see a movie, you can go to a game if the Pacers are playing, you can go to bar. But that is about it.

indygeezer
01-17-2008, 07:53 AM
Well I was going to get on here an claim to be the old man and all, but then I look on here and see Geezer posting so now I feel young again.:p

Anyway, let me just ask DCPacersfan a couple of simple questions.

1. What do you want to do at 8 O'clock at night on the third Thursday in February?

2. What do you want to do at 10 O'Clock at night on the second Friday in July?

3. How many nights of the week do you want to be "out" doing something?

The answer to these questions can help provide you with a guide to where you want to go.

I've gone through both phases of my life of where and what I wanted to do.

I can remember when I was 20 years old (Good God that was 20 years ago, ok forget what I said I am the old man here) I wanted nothing more in my life than to be a Paramedic in the New York City Health System. But somewhere someway somehow I lost all desire to do that and live there. Now I am the exact opposite.

I live in a small city in a quiet neighborhood and have to commute to a big city for any form of real food or entertainment and I wouldn't have it any other way.

However I am a 40 year old man who has a grown son and a wife of 22 years. So going out to partys to "hook up" is not on my menu and really never was.

BTW, I love Georgetown. Great great part of the DC Metro area. However going a few blocks north and south of there made me very very nervous.

I even accidently crossed into Baltimore once and felt like I entered Baghdad from the looks of it.

Every reason you stated for wanting out of there is logical and every reason that Rexnom and ATC gave for staying also is logical.

It really just kind of depends on what you need/want.

Do we have arts and culture here? Yes, you have to look for it but it does exist. Not on the scale of DC or Chicago or NYC, etc., etc.

But it does exist.

Is there nightlife here? We will never be confused with southbeach but again it is there.

Are there good food joints here? Hundreds of thousands of fat Hoosiers can't lie.:) Again, you have to look for it. But the food is there.

Do we have sporting activities? Yip, however I would not recommend our local professional basketball team.:D

Traffic is no real problem. Believe me when we b@tch and moan about 465 and all of the other artery roads we really don't have a clue. I know people who have to sit for up to 2 hours almost every Monday trying to get on the Dan Ryan in Chicago.

Cost of living is reasonable. Job market is.... well that can be tricky. Depends on what you do for a living.

Decent schools? Well the metro area is actually better than some other inner city systems but the outlying suberban schools have more money than they know what to do with.

But the down side is this. On that third Thursday in February, there really isn't going to be much to do. You can eat out, you can see a movie, you can go to a game if the Pacers are playing, you can go to bar. But that is about it.

(unm Peck.........Geezer Jr. #1 will be 41 next month)

there are some very good restaurants that serve Thai or some other ethnicity (hard to find GENUINE Chinese tho) but the predominance is Chain food...and yes, I include Shula's and PF Chang's in that category. We have what, 3 IMAX style theaters? Children's Museum, Indy Art Museum, the Speedway and the Eitlejorg Museums. We have Clowes Hall and Lowes downtown for the ISO and I hear the Jamaal Tinsley is releasing a tourist book along with the Chamber of Commerce detailing the more "Hip" side of Indy's nightlife. If you wish to see truelly GOOD basketball check out Butler University which is located about 3 miles north of downtown Indy (also the site of Clowes Hall). We have some of the very best High School theater departments you could imagine...and I'm serious when I say some of them are professional quality (Cathedral and Perry Meridian come to mind). I live on the far far eastside...I can drive to Eagle Creek resevoir/city Park in 30 minutes time (far far far westside). I live within 15 minutes of TWO Pete Dye designed golf courses. Indy has a plethora of nice country club golf courses but only a couple of GREAT courses. What is hurting Indy is the loss of the manufacturing jobs and the umemployment that brought about. We just haven't made the transition from manufacturing to service jobs too smoothly because about the same time the jobs went south...so did the companies that were looking to relocate. But the real sticking point for Indy is our public transpotation. We only have city buses for public use. THere is talk of expanding the IU/Wishard hospital monorail out to the airport but that doesn't help the everyday shmoe. Besides, Hoosiers LOVE their cars.

Erik
01-17-2008, 09:54 AM
There is plenty to do in Indy especially when you are talking about the night life part of it. I'm sure you would find positives if you came back because your family is here and you have some memories here, but do you really think your girlfriend would like it here? There is something to be said for the "small town hospitality" you get here, maybe that's enough to make her like it here. I don't know much about the weather in D.C. but do you get the extremes we get here? It's friggin' humid in the summer and blisterin' cold in the winter, I work outside so I am more bitter about than others. I was born and raised here and all my family is here so I love it here, I just wish it all could have happened in California:) I know it must suck making that decision even more because it seems that two people are involved, good luck.

btowncolt
01-17-2008, 11:30 AM
dcpacersfan,

I left Indiana the day after I graduated from college with no intention of ever going back. Having spent about 22 years there, I was more than ready to leave.

I packed up the car and moved to DC unemployed. Long story short, things worked out and I stayed in DC for a year before moving up to Boston.

Having lived close to water and in cities with actual public transportation and cultural amenities, I am probably even more set in never moving back to Indiana.

There are about a million things you'll miss having in Indianapolis. I understand what you didn't like about DC, as those things wore on me as well, but you also might realize all the little things you like about it when you're gone.

Indianapolis is a good place to raise a family if you're set in a career. But it's not all that great if you're not both of the above (raising a family and are already in your career).

Also to echo the weather sentiments: There are a couple months in the winter in Indiana that you really won't want to leave your house. In DC, you can always go out. It's pretty hot in the summer in DC, but it's not exactly cold in Indianapolis.

Unclebuck
01-17-2008, 12:03 PM
So many good points being made, pro and con about living in Indianapolis vs a bigger city. Living in urban areas vs. rural or suburban areas.

I like things about both lifestyles.

But the deal clincher for me is that the Pacers are here, so I stay here. (I won't admit to that in my real life, but in this forumn, I'll admit the truth - pacers are a big reason why I stay

indygeezer
01-17-2008, 12:33 PM
But the deal clincher for me is that the Pacers are here, so I stay here. (I won't admit to that in my real life, but in this forumn, I'll admit the truth - pacers are a big reason why I stay

Think how much better even THAT will be once we are rid of our sinuspoutinitis problem.

Unclebuck
01-17-2008, 12:48 PM
Think how much better even THAT will be once we are rid of our sinuspoutinitis problem.

There is always hope for the future.

I'm not suggesting that I would never move away from Indianapolis, but the Pacers are a major factor why I still live here.

avoidingtheclowns
01-17-2008, 04:28 PM
BTW, I love Georgetown. Great great part of the DC Metro area. However going a few blocks north and south of there made me very very nervous.

when i think of sketchy parts of dc, bethesda tops the list...

what do you mean by nervous? north along wisconsin avenue you go georgetown to american university / tenleytown then to bethesda/chevy chase to rockville and gaithersburg (the last 3 are similar to the castleton-carmel area). south you get to the national mall or the potomac and arlington. when was the last time you were in DC, because a lot has changed. 10 years ago the area i work in (gallery place / chinatown) was quite seedy and unsafe. but now the verizon center is right here, the new convention center, streets are lined with stores/restaurants ... it has changed dramatically.

i'm not gonna say DC is really safe: the bank in the bottom of our building has been robbed 6 times (not to mention various other fatal stabbings and shootings) in the 16 months i've been here.


Is there nightlife here? We will never be confused with southbeach but again it is there.

just find foul monday, you'll have a blast


Traffic is no real problem. Believe me when we b@tch and moan about 465 and all of the other artery roads we really don't have a clue. I know people who have to sit for up to 2 hours almost every Monday trying to get on the Dan Ryan in Chicago.

oddly traffic isn't horrific in DC. it is mainly that the people on the road don't know how to drive. DC/MD/VA also have no idea how to handle snow. the federal gov. completely shuts down after an inch or two.

rexnom
01-17-2008, 04:42 PM
oddly traffic isn't horrific in DC. it is mainly that the people on the road don't know how to drive. DC/MD/VA also have no idea how to handle snow. the federal gov. completely shuts down after an inch or two.
*nods head*

Today should be really fun...can't wait to leave work...thank god I can walk and take the metro.

grace
01-20-2008, 10:06 PM
I've lived in Indy, Detroit, and New Jersey. No way do I want to ride a commuter train. My brother did it when he lived in Chicago. I don't think he minded it. It's just not for me. When I lived in Detroit walking ANYWHERE was the LAST thing I would have done.

Gyron
01-21-2008, 12:11 PM
I moved from Indy to Charlotte, NC in 1999 due to my job relocating. The first year or two we hated it. Now I wouldn't change the move for anything. I love the Charlotte area, there is lots to do, although we're not the partying kind, we're the raising a family and set in our career types.

We loved Indy too and it was hard to move away from family, but over time, most of my family has moved away due to jobs or retirement. Out of my 5 siblings, only one remains in Indy now, all the others have moved all over the country.

I had the opportunity about 2 years ago to move back to Indy, with a really good job offer. But after my wife and I talked about it, we decided that we enjoyed the Charlotte area too much and decided to stay here.

The weather was a factor in it, as the weather in Charltte is great. There is a long spring summer and fall, and very little winter. I started playing golf when I moved down here and thanks to living in Charlotte, I play pretty much year round now. As a matter of fact, I was on the golf course on Christmas eve.

Also we are less than 2 hours form the mountains and 2.5 hours from the beachs. So we can go either route for quick get aways with completely different activities.

The fact of the matter is the decision has to be based upon what you are looking for out of your city. We liked Charlotte alot because the city is similar to Indy, but not overgrown yet. Still a lot of areas where you can be out of the hustle of the city, but still have access to all of the city amenities.

Isaac
01-22-2008, 05:00 AM
But the deal clincher for me is that the Pacers are here, so I stay here. (I won't admit to that in my real life, but in this forumn, I'll admit the truth - pacers are a big reason why I stay

I'm glad I'm not the only one that has this mindset. :)

Personally, I'm from Chicago, I live and go to school there now. So I'm totally used to being in a massive city, and I really prefer that type of a life. However, I am moving to Indianapolis to work in talk sports radio after I graduate, and I have been there extensively. I love the downtown Indianapolis area as much as almost any city I've been to, and I've been all around the world frankly. I've honestly had (almost) as much fun in Indianapolis as I have in Hong Kong, Barcelona, Chicago, New York, even Amsterdam and Vegas.

I love that the downtown area is very compact, because it is so lively and has such a nice small big city feel. Leading up to Colts games is so cool, their success has done wonders for Indy's atmosphere.

Its also really amazing to me how much the city is developing. I remember Indianapolis very well the first time I came for a Pacers game over 15 years ago, and the city has changed so much. I think in 15 more years it will be even better, it really is a city on the rise.

Granted though, if it weren't for the Colts and especially for the Pacers there is no way I'd be moving there. I'd probably live in San Diego, Seattle or here in Chicago if the Pacers were to not exist.

Will Galen
01-27-2008, 11:12 PM
I didn't give the Pacers or Colts any thought at all when I decided to move down here to Florida. I kept getting a bad cold every winter and it started hanging on longer and longer. The last winter it happened I vowed I was moving to Florida the next time I felt one coming on. I moved down here Dec. 11, 1994 and I haven't really regretted it. The main reason is I truly think I would be dead if I had stayed in Indiana.

I've been here over 13 years now and only had one mild cold, and my sister brought that down here with her on a visit.

idioteque
07-10-2008, 01:42 PM
I decided to bump this because I am still weighing my options.

I was looking at real estate in Broad Ripple yesterday online and was just amazed by how low some of the prices are.

btowncolt
07-10-2008, 01:57 PM
Yeah - the real estate sticker shock going from the coast to the rust belt can make you giddy. You could buy a sizable portion of Marion County for what a small condo in Chinatown costs in DC.

Putnam
07-10-2008, 02:14 PM
I decided to bump this because I am still weighing my options.

I was looking at real estate in Broad Ripple yesterday online and was just amazed by how low some of the prices are.


1. Indianapolis is THE most affordable large city in the US. That is a solid, perennial fact.

2. Peck's comments above still hold true. Indianapolis doesn't offer you as many things to do as Washington, but there is plenty to do here -- more than you will ever be able to actually keep up with. The theater does really well here. We've got enough venues for live music to keep you interested, with the same caliber of artists as come to Washington. Indy has a great variety of community activities, from the ordinary to the eclectic. There is ballroom dancing with a live orchestra every Friday night at Fountain Square. There is a huge interest in canine agility and herding trials. There are folk music societies of all kinds. If you like car racing, we've got some of that, too.

3. I'm not sure what work you do or what you've studied. But the job market here is pretty good, and is expanding in several lucrative industries.

4. No beaches? No mountains? No problem. Living here, you can afford to travel to Colorado for a week every winter, or to the Eastern Shore for a week every summer. That is more than 95% of the residents of Denver/Washington do in a typical year, anyway. If theater is your thing, you can save the money and take a trip to New York a see a couple of shows every year more easily than you can save the money living in Manhattan. And I might add that we've got magnificant forests here, and plenty of recreational water.

5. I left Washington DC in 1992 after living there 5 years. I attended Georgetown grad school and then worked on K Street. I loved the Red Line train and wish I was riding mass transit today instead of driving 96 miles a day from the country to downtown Indy. My wife had never lived in Indiana before, but she says it is just fine. The worst thing about Indiana, she says, is that Hoosiers can be annoying with the way they moan about not being as good as Ohio.

6. If you decide to move, be sure and spend a lot of time at ALL of the Smithsonian buildings. There is nothing like the Smithsonian Institution and you're lucky to be near it. Don't move until you've exhausted those opportunities.


What town did you live in before moving to Washington?

idioteque
07-10-2008, 03:36 PM
2. Peck's comments above still hold true. Indianapolis doesn't offer you as many things to do as Washington, but there is plenty to do here -- more than you will ever be able to actually keep up with. The theater does really well here. We've got enough venues for live music to keep you interested, with the same caliber of artists as come to Washington. Indy has a great variety of community activities, from the ordinary to the eclectic. There is ballroom dancing with a live orchestra every Friday night at Fountain Square. There is a huge interest in canine agility and herding trials. There are folk music societies of all kinds. If you like car racing, we've got some of that, too.


When I was a kid my parents would always get seasonal tickets to the Indianapolis Symphony Orchestra. I always enjoyed that, I was really into Symphony on the Prairie, and a few times a year we would go see something at Clowes Hall. As long as those things are still there and the live music is to the caliber it was a couple of years ago before my sister moved to Chicago, I think everything in that regard will be okay. Besides, from talking to her I know there is way more than that out there. With more disposable income (I think I will have more) I'd even looking into possibly getting Pacers season tickets in a couple of years. Also I come from a pretty close family, most of who live in Indiana, and frankly at times I get frustrated listening to the small trips and other things they go out and do together because that was an important part of my childhood and I know now I am missing out. So I think everything will be fine regarding entertainment.


3. I'm not sure what work you do or what you've studied. But the job market here is pretty good, and is expanding in several lucrative industries.

I was an IR major in college but I sort of lost interest near the end of my time at GW and just finished it out because of the time and money it would have cost to switch majors during the second semester of my junior year. Really, I am unsure of what I want to do...what I can say is I guess I am more social science oriented. :confused:

One quick question, though. Did you get a job in Indiana before moving there or did you start searching for a job when you moved?


4. No beaches? No mountains? No problem. Living here, you can afford to travel to Colorado for a week every winter, or to the Eastern Shore for a week every summer. That is more than 95% of the residents of Denver/Washington do in a typical year, anyway. If theater is your thing, you can save the money and take a trip to New York a see a couple of shows every year more easily than you can save the money living in Manhattan. And I might add that we've got magnificant forests here, and plenty of recreational water.

One really frustrating thing for us is that we can't travel hardly at all, mostly because of money. Not to mention she hasn't left the DC area in a couple of years now, she is just working constantly, and I can tell that it is eating at her more every day. So more disposable income to be more fluid would be great. Her family is in Jamaica so we need to have more money to travel.


5. I left Washington DC in 1992 after living there 5 years. I attended Georgetown grad school and then worked on K Street. I loved the Red Line train and wish I was riding mass transit today instead of driving 96 miles a day from the country to downtown Indy. My wife had never lived in Indiana before, but she says it is just fine. The worst thing about Indiana, she says, is that Hoosiers can be annoying with the way they moan about not being as good as Ohio.

I have a love/hate relationship with Metro, that will be the hardest part about leaving if I decide to. I am incredibly tight with money, and while I hate the constant darn train delays Metro is a cheap option and I love not having to pay car insurance or have a car payment like I did back in High School. I guess though, with the extra money, it will be affordable.


6. If you decide to move, be sure and spend a lot of time at ALL of the Smithsonian buildings. There is nothing like the Smithsonian Institution and you're lucky to be near it. Don't move until you've exhausted those opportunities.

The Smithsonian is awesome and will be hard to leave behind if I choose to go. I love art and the art collections they have there are top notch.


What town did you live in before moving to Washington?

Shelbyville, which if you don't know it, is the seat of Shelby County, has about 18,000 people, and something like 25-30 miles southeast of Indianapolis.

Twes
07-10-2008, 03:38 PM
Like you're going to do what we say anyway.

:cool:

idioteque
07-10-2008, 03:38 PM
Yeah - the real estate sticker shock going from the coast to the rust belt can make you giddy. You could buy a sizable portion of Marion County for what a small condo in Chinatown costs in DC.

I know, you see a million dollar townhouse in Foggy Bottom and then a much bigger home in Broad Ripple for like a 10th of the price, it gets very tempting.

idioteque
07-10-2008, 03:39 PM
Like you're going to do what we say anyway.

:cool:

I need some unbiased commentary. My friends from Indiana yell COME BACK where my friends in DC want me to stay. :cool:

Twes
07-10-2008, 03:46 PM
I need some unbiased commentary. My friends from Indiana yell COME BACK where my friends in DC want me to stay. :cool:

My advice would be to check out areas of the country you have interest in when you are young with no ties.

Sounds like you already have ties.

The reality is most of us have to go where the jobs are too.

I tried hard to find a job long distance in Alaska years ago but never made it.

Obviously we're all so different it's impossible to chose for someone else. I've found even different stages of life you have very different thoughts on where you'd live.

grace
07-10-2008, 04:05 PM
My wife had never lived in Indiana before, but she says it is just fine. The worst thing about Indiana, she says, is that Hoosiers can be annoying with the way they moan about not being as good as Ohio.


What?

avoidingtheclowns
07-10-2008, 04:41 PM
One quick question, though. Did you get a job in Indiana before moving there or did you start searching for a job when you moved?

most big cities (like DC, NYC and Chicago) want you to be there before they'll consider you for something other than an internship or the like. i'm not sure if indy would be the same way because indy isn't nearly as transient as the other places.


One really frustrating thing for us is that we can't travel hardly at all, mostly because of money. Not to mention she hasn't left the DC area in a couple of years now, she is just working constantly, and I can tell that it is eating at her more every day. So more disposable income to be more fluid would be great. Her family is in Jamaica so we need to have more money to travel.


oddly, i actually find it to be the other way around. my friends on the east coast travel significantly more than anyone i know in the midwest. i think it can be done much easier (when young - it would be significantly different with children, etc) in a place like DC.

example: i had built up a couple grand in savings while in college which i emptied my three months working as an intern here because of the cost of living (i wasn't being paid to intern.) however, in the year in a half since actually getting on the payroll i've been able to save a quite a bit more because i make (as a communications temp at a nonprofit) about $15k+ more than a friend in IL that is a full time middle school math teacher (in her 3rd year.) [one caveat - she is a math teacher in a town of about 2,000 - it'd be a different story in places like Chicago; Springfield, IL or right outside St. Louis.]

i think it comes down to knowing how to convert the increased wage rate in places like DC and NYC (thanks to cost of living, etc) and knowing how to limit your expenses. i'll use my IL teacher friend again here: we recently compared expenses and essentially she pays the same for gas each week i pay for metro, she pays $700 for a 2bd furnished apt with all utilities and i pay $750 for a furnished bedroom in someone's house... ultimately it turned out that our monthly expenses were identical but i was making a significant amount more per year.


I know, you see a million dollar townhouse in Foggy Bottom and then a much bigger home in Broad Ripple for like a 10th of the price, it gets very tempting.

i live in a house that has a host of problems (fairly old, wet unfinished basement, etc.) and would be sold out here for at least $750,000. freaking crazy.

btowncolt
07-10-2008, 04:49 PM
I'll be on the Red Line in the direction of Glenmont, boarding at Farragut North in about 20 minutes if anyone wants to say "WORD UP YOU STUPID JACKASS."

avoidingtheclowns
07-10-2008, 05:32 PM
I'll be on the Red Line in the direction of Glenmont, boarding at Farragut North in about 20 minutes if anyone wants to say "WORD UP YOU STUPID JACKASS."

i board at gallery place / chinatown. if you see me, please don't make eye contact.

Putnam
07-11-2008, 08:30 AM
ATC is right about the possibilities of cheap student housing. I was neglecting that option. In his comparison, he pays the same for a bedroom in someone's house that his Illinois friend pays for a 2-bedroom apartment. That shows you can live cheaply in Washington, if you are willing to live like that. But things start to close in around you pretty quickly. You save a lot of money not owning a car...but that means you can't drive up to Great Falls on a Sunday afternoon.

Eventually, wage disparities level off. My wage data shows that corporate managers earn about the same everywhere, because the wage levels are set by the corporation. So a banking executive for Chase might make $125,000 in Philadelphia and pay $5000 a month on his mortgage, then move to Indy and get a nicer house for $3000 a month while still making $125,000 a month.



my friends on the east coast travel significantly more than anyone i know in the midwest. i think it can be done much easier (when young - it would be significantly different with children, etc) in a place like DC.

This is probably true. People who move to Washington are the type of people who are likely to travel around some more -- and people who were born and stayed in Indiana are more likely to stay put. All I meant was that you CAN enjoy the nation's wonders while living in Indiana.



DC also asked about jobs and moving. In my instance, I moved before I had the job. Today it would be much easier to avoid that risky step.

avoidingtheclowns
07-11-2008, 09:50 AM
ATC is right about the possibilities of cheap student housing. I was neglecting that option. In his comparison, he pays the same for a bedroom in someone's house that his Illinois friend pays for a 2-bedroom apartment. That shows you can live cheaply in Washington, if you are willing to live like that. But things start to close in around you pretty quickly.

this is true. i guess my point was more when you're young and not necessarily interested in owning a house or starting a family, you can make a midwestern cost of living work AND get the increased wage rate. clearly, i'd prefer having a 2bd apt for what i'm paying but you can make it work.

also, i should admit that i'm in a fairly lucky situation in that i work for a non-profit but a successful non-profit media organization that for the most part takes care of the employees (when you're a temp with an assignment of 3mo or longer you get full benefits/insurance.) not all of the jobs available for people my age (specifically non-profit orgs and the hill) offer the same things. usually lower-level staffers (and interns) on the hill roam around the senate/house buildings looking for receptions with food they can attend and get a meal from.


You save a lot of money not owning a car...but that means you can't drive up to Great Falls on a Sunday afternoon.

true but i actually do own a car. i live right over the district line in takoma park and am lucky that i haven't had to mess with permits and that sort of stuff. there is also zipcar available. and given the proximity to philly, nyc and boston there is a nice bus system (as a sidenote: if you plan on taking the bus to any of those locales - yes the chinatown bus may be significantly cheaper but it'll be worth the extra $10 or so to take a reliable service megabus, bolt or vamoose.)


This is probably true. People who move to Washington are the type of people who are likely to travel around some more -- and people who were born and stayed in Indiana are more likely to stay put. All I meant was that you CAN enjoy the nation's wonders while living in Indiana.

yeah i think it is more about opportunities available too when it comes to 20 somethings. indiana, if you like and want to travel with a family, would probably be a better.



DC also asked about jobs and moving. In my instance, I moved before I had the job. Today it would be much easier to avoid that risky step.

for indiana and certain industries this is probably true but what i've found is that most organizations want you to be in the city - otherwise they assume you're wasting their time. after graduating (from a school in central southern IL) i applied to jobs in chicago, indy, nyc, la and dc and never got any response until i applied for an internship.

clearly, one might think that was due to my lack of capitalization but as i have moved into the industry i've learned it is partially about trust - if you're not in the area you could easily flake out and never end up moving. and secondly larger cities have plenty of people in those industries currently living there that are looking for jobs. why not simplify the process?

avoidingtheclowns
07-02-2009, 01:47 AM
Oh the joy of advanced search...

I remembered having a discussion on here about DC to see if there was anything to add to Jose's thread. And found this:


Please, Indy peeps, don't take offense to what I am about to write.

Also, keep in mind that I'm a self-admitted East Coast prick from Boston that went to high school in Indy.

That being said, why in God's name would you want to leave DC for Indy?

There's a huge "middle class" in DC! Sure most of us are "yuppies," but we're there. I have a long-term girlfriend myself and we absolutely love it in DC. It helps that we're both political junkies and such but really what cinches it is places like Adams Morgan and U st.

I could never live in Indy again, personally, because I always feel disconnected when I go back there even for just a few days. I think it depends on the person but I love the feeling of being able to walk everywhere here; I love going on the metro to places (even though there is always track work...always).

To make things better, DC is a whole 'nother beast post-graduation. I don't know how much you like the "yuppie" life style but being someone who loves it, DC has become the clear place to be for me.


You don't necessarily have to love the nightscene to love what a city like DC has to offer, though. I love the fact that if I decided to eat out every Friday night, I could get a different cuisine every week for quite a while in DC.

Also, if you are talking about raising a family, DC-area has A LOT of jobs in a plethora of fields. At the same time, you could easily raise your family in suburban Virginia and Maryland and just commute or drive to work every day. I have a lot of friends in various parts of Maryland and some of the nice neighborhoods there remind me A LOT of Indy. Still, it's 45minutes from DC and Baltimore and a few hours from Philly and then NYC.

Sorry if I seem defensive about DC here, it's just that I spent a lot of time making the decision to come down here and I haven't regretted it for a second. I can easily see me spending the rest of my life in this area.

Are you considering any other places or is it just between DC and Indy?

Looks like someone is a lying sack of ****.

rexnom
07-02-2009, 02:09 AM
Oh the joy of advanced search...

I remembered having a discussion on here about DC to see if there was anything to add to Jose's thread. And found this:

Looks like someone is a lying sack of ****.
:laugh:

Love it.

Listen, douchebag. I hate leaving DC. Unfortunately (or fortunately), graduate school beckons - that's why I'm in Chicago for god knows how long. I'd love to go back to DC when I'm done.


i agree with with rexnom. i'd find it hard to move back to indiana... if i were to move midwest it'd probably be chicago
Look at the big brain on Ed!

imawhat
07-02-2009, 03:33 AM
I need some unbiased commentary. My friends from Indiana yell COME BACK where my friends in DC want me to stay. :cool:

So..any updates? Still considering Indy?

idioteque
07-02-2009, 07:37 AM
So..any updates? Still considering Indy?

I would love to get back to Indy some how, some way, but right now I don't see it happening. A few months after I started this thread I got a really good job here and with the way the economy is right now I'm not about to give it up. Not to mention the wonders I think it will do for my resume.

There are things I love about Indianapolis the city- cheap, good housing, more entertainment than what meets the eye, traffic is not bad, people do not get killed in public transportation accidents, ect.

The one thing Indy doesn't have going for me right now? A job that would replace the current job that I have. Like I said, I really can't give this position up.

Right now I am looking at buying my first house in the next year. I love some of the townhouses in DC, but I really don't feel like investing half a million into some gentrifying area 2 blocks from the hood. I don't mind it when I'm paying rent, but when its my own money...

My most realistic goal right now: start up a successful political consulting firm, base it in Chicago, get a chopper or small plane, and take the quick ride to Indy for every Pacers game, Bernie Eckelstein style :cool:

avoidingtheclowns
07-02-2009, 10:25 AM
:laugh:

Love it.

Listen, douchebag. I hate leaving DC. Unfortunately (or fortunately), graduate school beckons - that's why I'm in Chicago for god knows how long. I'd love to go back to DC when I'm done.


Look at the big brain on Ed!

Hahaha, yeah I'm down with Chicago. I bet you can't wait to experience a 'real' winter again.


I would love to get back to Indy some how, some way, but right now I don't see it happening. A few months after I started this thread I got a really good job here and with the way the economy is right now I'm not about to give it up. Not to mention the wonders I think it will do for my resume.

There are things I love about Indianapolis the city- cheap, good housing, more entertainment than what meets the eye, traffic is not bad, people do not get killed in public transportation accidents, ect.

The one thing Indy doesn't have going for me right now? A job that would replace the current job that I have. Like I said, I really can't give this position up.

Right now I am looking at buying my first house in the next year. I love some of the townhouses in DC, but I really don't feel like investing half a million into some gentrifying area 2 blocks from the hood. I don't mind it when I'm paying rent, but when its my own money...

My most realistic goal right now: start up a successful political consulting firm, base it in Chicago, get a chopper or small plane, and take the quick ride to Indy for every Pacers game, Bernie Eckelstein style :cool:

You're also not a giant tool, like say Rexnom.

Actually if you're interested in purchasing a house, there is a 3 bedroom 2.5 bath house right around the corner from me and it can be yours for $535,000. The lot size is 8,875 sq ft. It was built in 1960 and the estimated property taxes for the first year are $9,570.

There's also a 1,015 sq ft 2 bedroom, 1 bath condo a couple blocks away for a cool $319,000 if that's more you're speed.

Either way, it's the People's Republic of Takoma Park - we're the end of the Red Line with all the cool **** happening!!

ABADays
07-02-2009, 10:48 AM
When I dream about the moonlight on the Waaaabash . . . then I looooong for my Ind-i-ana home

:violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin:

Does this help? :D

Peter_sixtyftsixin
07-02-2009, 06:08 PM
I may be wrong, but from what I read you're about to leave college. If that is the case, I submit this to the you should come back to Indy side of the argument: http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/worklife/05/13/cb.top10.cities.grads/index.html

imawhat
07-03-2009, 05:03 AM
I would love to get back to Indy some how, some way, but right now I don't see it happening. A few months after I started this thread I got a really good job here and with the way the economy is right now I'm not about to give it up. Not to mention the wonders I think it will do for my resume.

Indy is not a good place to be looking for a job. It's not the worst, but I have some friends that have been out of work for a year.

Also, I can relate on doing wonders to the resume. I look at living out of Indy (or moreso, living in a large city) as an investment. What would take me 15 years to accomplish professionally in Indy I've done in 14 months in L.A.

Indy is a good place to live, as many others have stated. The cost of living is #1, but there are other benefits. The Pacers don't hurt ;). I'd love to have a spot in Real Silk (though I don't plan on moving back), and I check about 5-10 properties every time I'm in Indy for fun.

Re: Real Estate. It may be more beneficial to save more and wait until 2011.

Los Angeles
07-03-2009, 12:11 PM
I may be wrong, but from what I read you're about to leave college. If that is the case, I submit this to the you should come back to Indy side of the argument: http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/worklife/05/13/cb.top10.cities.grads/index.html

Three top jobs listed are "sales, customer service, health care"

In other words: Dunder Mifflin, Dunder Mifflin, and Dunder Mifflin Hospital.

No thank you.

idioteque
07-03-2009, 12:49 PM
Yeah, I went to college with a very specified major (International Relations) and my professional interests are even more narrow than that. I do love Indianapolis and while I can think of a few options where I may be able to work there, given most of the opportunities in my field it is unlikely.

Miraculously, I was able to find a job, doing something I love at that, in this economic climate.

My interests have confined me to probably either DC, New York, or overseas. Not that there is anything wrong with that, hell I should probably be more thankful than I am. The world is getting smaller and airfare to Indianapolis is always manageable.

As for real estate, thanks for the info ATC. Right now I don't think I am in the position to buy anything but I am saving for an eventual down payment. I actually pay a really fair rent for my current neighborhood, Columbia Heights (around $1,500 a month including utilities for two bedrooms) and am able to save a good amount of money month-to-month.

Rexnom, it is shameful that you left DC for that icebox known as Chicago. Nice city, but Indianapolis is about the limit of what I can stand for a winter.

idioteque
04-27-2012, 08:33 PM
Developments since I started this thread: the girlfriend I mentioned is now my wife, and Rexnom moved to yet another city that is not DC.

I foresee myself changing jobs at the end of this year and am once again looking at Indy at least as a trial option. The "insert random social science" and law classes I have taken in graduate school have made me realize I should have considered law school more closely than I did, and I have some connections with local law firms and may try to use them to get a paralegal job to see whether or not law is for me. I have also made a couple of cuts and may get a chance to interview for a couple of really good government jobs here in DC, it will probably enable my wife and I to afford a much nicer place here if that actually works out.

The problem is I know that if my wife and I bought a condo out here, space would always be somewhat limited and I don't know if we could afford to live in a decent place and send our future kids to a private school (DCPS is basically not an option). The other option is sending our kids to public school and living in the suburbs, but then you're stuck in commuting hell for the rest of your life.

My wife and I want to start a family in the next couple of years, Indy is obviously better for that. We could live close to downtown/wherever we worked with relative ease and while traffic in Indianapolis can suck (I commuted from a doughnut county to a high school in Indy so I know) it is not like traffic in DC. My family is also in Indy which is a plus when you have kids. Living in Indy for a year or so to start may be good to see whether or not I like being close to my family, whether the city has enough cultural amenities for us (we are both quiet homebodies but still like to go out sometimes), and whether or not I can still take the winter. After looking at a couple of places in Broad Ripple and Fountain Square a few months ago my wife now actually wants to leave DC for Indy, but I am convinced she would need the "trial" period as well.

As much as DC gets on my nerves, it would still be hard to leave though. I am reading through these posts again and the advice is still helpful and great, thanks guys.

travmil
04-27-2012, 09:25 PM
Keep in mind that if you lived in Broad Ripple or Fountain Square, those are in IPS School districts, so not good. I would imagine that private school here would be about the same % of your income as it would in DC. Believe me, if you are starting a family and you don't think you will have the money for private school, the location of the house you buy will absolutely be the single most important decision you will have to make. There's nothing worse than having to send your child to a school you hate. Our son starts Kindergarten this fall and we are desperately scrambling right now trying to get him into any neighboring school we can so that he doesn't have to go to the schools in our district. When we bought this house, we thought we'd have plenty of time and opportunity to move before our son was school age. Then the housing market bombed and we're still here. You never know what's going to happen. If family is your goal, and private school is not an option, really do your research on the schools and go where the ones you like are. This is solid advice no matter which city you choose to live in.

vapacersfan
04-27-2012, 10:37 PM
This threads cracks me up, and it is sad seeing ABADAys post in here.

This thoughts of this thread runs through my mind 10 times a day. I hate Northern Virginia, and missing living in Florida, but I have a great job and I have got accustomed to the lifestyle of the DC metro area.

graphic-er
04-27-2012, 10:37 PM
I will ad to what Travmil says, stay the **** out of Broadripple and Fountain square area if you are planning on starting a family. IPS school system is terrible. If you want to live close to broad ripple. IE Walking or Biking distance. Then probably the best place to live is in Washington Township. Housing is still very affordable here. I bought my first house at the age of 26 here in Washington Township. Its smaller 3bed room home with a full unfinished basement for only 100K, that was 4-5 years ago. Great starter house for a young family, and these types of homes are plentiful in Washington Township. You are close to Broadripple, Castleton, and Nora communities. Nora has alot of eclectic food offerings and decent small shops, Broadripple has great bars and night life (though Broadripple is more hassle then its worth now-days, but I'm 30 years old now and settling down this year so that probably has much to do with it!) I'm also a 15 minute drive to Butler University and Clowes Hall and there are so many great concerts and productions put on there.

Best of all I can make it to BLF in about 20 minutes.

Low cost of living, property taxes in Washington Township are acceptable, good school system and best of all not in Carmel or Fishers where you can expect to spend an hour driving to and from work every day.

Fountain Square is an interesting neighborhood, lots of cafes and antique stores, art galleries, you can literally ride your bike downtown from there. But the reality is that Fountain Square is about a 5 block radius if that, and everything outside of those 5 blocks is the Ghetto. Poor run down neighborhoods, bad schools lots of crime. I know this first hand as I grew up just East and South of Fountain square around English Ave and Southern Ave. - formerly know as IPS school# 21. Outside of Fountain Square those neighborhoods have not changed for the better in 30 years.

There is probably only one city I would consider leaving Indy for and that would be the Seattle area, I visited family there a few years ago and I just simply loved it. But when I compare the cost of real estate, my house in Seattle would be around $300K!

cdash
04-27-2012, 10:56 PM
Someone talk me out of my itch to move to NYC for a period of no longer than 2 years.

indygeezer
04-28-2012, 12:00 AM
Developments since I started this thread: the girlfriend I mentioned is now my wife, and Rexnom moved to yet another city that is not DC.

I foresee myself changing jobs at the end of this year and am once again looking at Indy at least as a trial option. The "insert random social science" and law classes I have taken in graduate school have made me realize I should have considered law school more closely than I did, and I have some connections with local law firms and may try to use them to get a paralegal job to see whether or not law is for me. I have also made a couple of cuts and may get a chance to interview for a couple of really good government jobs here in DC, it will probably enable my wife and I to afford a much nicer place here if that actually works out.

The problem is I know that if my wife and I bought a condo out here, space would always be somewhat limited and I don't know if we could afford to live in a decent place and send our future kids to a private school (DCPS is basically not an option). The other option is sending our kids to public school and living in the suburbs, but then you're stuck in commuting hell for the rest of your life.

My wife and I want to start a family in the next couple of years, Indy is obviously better for that. We could live close to downtown/wherever we worked with relative ease and while traffic in Indianapolis can suck (I commuted from a doughnut county to a high school in Indy so I know) it is not like traffic in DC. My family is also in Indy which is a plus when you have kids. Living in Indy for a year or so to start may be good to see whether or not I like being close to my family, whether the city has enough cultural amenities for us (we are both quiet homebodies but still like to go out sometimes), and whether or not I can still take the winter. After looking at a couple of places in Broad Ripple and Fountain Square a few months ago my wife now actually wants to leave DC for Indy, but I am convinced she would need the "trial" period as well.

As much as DC gets on my nerves, it would still be hard to leave though. I am reading through these posts again and the advice is still helpful and great, thanks guys.

Just a little info....I have been showing some new downtown condos for $300K +/-....I am also showing nearly 3000 sq. ft homes in the burbs for $150K....Cathedral High School (a private Catholic HS) is currently about $11,000 a year for tuition. There are cheaper ones but Cathedral is not supported by the diocese while the others are. Then there are the exclusive private schools that are way outta my league. There are beautiful places/neighborhoods north, northeast, and northwest of downtown. Nice areas exist all over town but especially as I mentioned. I love the downtown canal and what they are doing there.

(small warning...be prepared for what your auto license plates will cost you. It can be hundreds of $$$ per year).

idioteque
04-28-2012, 12:06 AM
Yeah, public schools are definitely an issue for me. My wife and I will never make a lot of money, but it is possible that we would be able to afford to send our kids to Catholic school in Indianapolis. Even the cheapest Catholic schools in DC tend to cost at least $20,000 a pupil, whereas Catholic schools I have looked at in Indianapolis tend to charge around that for two kids. So I think what we would probably do is rent downtown to begin with and pick the neighborhood we eventually move to (if we decide to stay) basically on the sole basis of whether we will have the cash or desire to send our kids to private school or not.

idioteque
04-28-2012, 12:11 AM
Just a little info....I have been showing some new downtown condos for $300K +/-....I am also showing nearly 3000 sq. ft homes in the burbs for $150K....Cathedral High School (a private Catholic HS) is currently about $11,000 a year for tuition. There are cheaper ones but Cathedral is not supported by the diocese while the others are. Then there are the exclusive private schools that are way outta my league. There are beautiful places/neighborhoods north, northeast, and northwest of downtown. Nice areas exist all over town but especially as I mentioned. I love the downtown canal and what they are doing there.

(small warning...be prepared for what your auto license plates will cost you. It can be hundreds of $$$ per year).

Thanks for the info, we may be in contact in the future! Also I had no idea Cathedral was 11k a pupil, always thought it was way more than that.

indygeezer
04-28-2012, 03:49 PM
Thanks for the info, we may be in contact in the future! Also I had no idea Cathedral was 11k a pupil, always thought it was way more than that.

Brebuf would be higher (Jesuit Prep School on NW side) and then there is Park Tudor where the Lilly execs and such send their kids....that would be expensive.

Cathedral increases tuition about $500/year....and no longer gives academic scholarships nor do they give a break for more than one child.

travmil
04-28-2012, 04:52 PM
Heritage Christian is another good private school option. We went to their orientation events, did our research, and if it was feasible at all this is where our son would be going. Currently their tuition runs from $6600 for Kindergarten to $9300 for high school years. They also let you break your annual tuition fees up into 11 monthly payments.

rexnom
04-30-2012, 02:25 AM
Developments since I started this thread: the girlfriend I mentioned is now my wife, and Rexnom moved to yet another city that is not DC.

I foresee myself changing jobs at the end of this year and am once again looking at Indy at least as a trial option. The "insert random social science" and law classes I have taken in graduate school have made me realize I should have considered law school more closely than I did, and I have some connections with local law firms and may try to use them to get a paralegal job to see whether or not law is for me. I have also made a couple of cuts and may get a chance to interview for a couple of really good government jobs here in DC, it will probably enable my wife and I to afford a much nicer place here if that actually works out.

The problem is I know that if my wife and I bought a condo out here, space would always be somewhat limited and I don't know if we could afford to live in a decent place and send our future kids to a private school (DCPS is basically not an option). The other option is sending our kids to public school and living in the suburbs, but then you're stuck in commuting hell for the rest of your life.

My wife and I want to start a family in the next couple of years, Indy is obviously better for that. We could live close to downtown/wherever we worked with relative ease and while traffic in Indianapolis can suck (I commuted from a doughnut county to a high school in Indy so I know) it is not like traffic in DC. My family is also in Indy which is a plus when you have kids. Living in Indy for a year or so to start may be good to see whether or not I like being close to my family, whether the city has enough cultural amenities for us (we are both quiet homebodies but still like to go out sometimes), and whether or not I can still take the winter. After looking at a couple of places in Broad Ripple and Fountain Square a few months ago my wife now actually wants to leave DC for Indy, but I am convinced she would need the "trial" period as well.

As much as DC gets on my nerves, it would still be hard to leave though. I am reading through these posts again and the advice is still helpful and great, thanks guys.
Wow. Just re-read my posts earlier in the thread. Yeah, broke up with my long-term gf (for what it's worth, she's now happily married in DC) that I was with at the beginning of this thread. Graduate school took me to Chicago and then New Haven. Trust me, if I had my choice of location, I wouldn't choose suburban Connecticut.

Congrats on all your family success, by the way. All the other stuff matters so much less in the big picture if you're happy at home.