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Moses
01-16-2008, 05:07 PM
Citing a league source, Profootballtalk.com reports Colts coach Tony Dungy will step down and be replaced by assistant head coach Jim Caldwell.
Dungy isn't expected to make his decision official before next Monday, but most close to the situation have expected him to retire. Caldwell is highly regarded in the Colts' locker room, especially by Peyton Manning.
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&hl=111573&id=1542

Edit: As soon as I post this, I find this on ESPN. Looks like Dungy is denying the profootballtalk.com report.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3199685

idioteque
01-16-2008, 05:11 PM
1.) Dungy's mustache on his ESPN.com picture is kinda porn star-esque, just thought I would throw that out there.

2.) "Believe it or not, I'm going to go through the process just like I said I would," Dungy told Mortensen. "[Owner] Jim Irsay and I, along with [team president] Bill Polian, have have been talking about this for the last couple of days in Indianapolis. Jim wants me to open the new stadium. I'm not opposed to it, my wife it not opposed to it. I'm going to go through this process to make sure that I should do it.

Sounds to me like he is leaning toward coming back right now.

Shade
01-16-2008, 05:18 PM
He's going to retire. The man is burnt out.

heywoode
01-16-2008, 05:35 PM
I don't think he is burned out. I think he is considering stepping down because his leaning is towards reconnecting with the city he has been closest with, and that is Tampa. His family, especially his wife, likes a warm weather climate, and they have strong ties to Tampa anyway.

He has said publicly and privately that his most important job is as a husband and father. If he feels like he isn't giving as much as he needs to his family, they will come first, as they should.

He stated many times in his book that he feels as though he hasn't spent as much family time as his parents did, and even though he feels he is a good husband and father, the holidays remind him of what he misses out on by having the job he has.

There is no doubt in my mind that he will make the decision that is best for his family. If that decision is to leave football, I commend him for it and wish him the best, while thanking him for leading the Colts to where they are now.

I feel much closer to understanding the man since I read his book, and I will not be sorry in the least if he decided to retire. Any other coach, and I would be wondering what the hidden agenda is. I would be wondering if he wanted to move back to Florida and take the Dolphins head coaching job. Not Tony Dungy. If he says that he is retiring, I believe him.

If he steps down and moves to Florida to be closer to his family AND takes the Miami job, I will STILL respect the man and wish him the best. I'm a Tony Dungy fan and believe he will be honest and forthcoming with whatever reasons he gives for staying or going.

aero
01-16-2008, 05:44 PM
Id love to see him coach at least one year in the new stadium. then retire if that's what he feels is best ....If he retires now though...I have nothing but good things to say about him. He has been one hell of an awesome coach on and off the field.

Since86
01-16-2008, 05:54 PM
He's going to retire. The man is burnt out.

I don't think he's burnt out, I think he's done exactly what he set out to do and isn't all the motivated anymore because of it.

He said in his book he always said that he would retire after he won the superbowl. When you accomplish your biggest goal, you have to find another goal to strive for, and I'm not sure he has another besides to be the best family man he can be.

If he leaves he will be sorely missed, but I wish him the best always. He's a very good person to look up too, especially how sports teams are ran today. He'll be a lock HOF'er just because he's the first black coach to ever win the SB, but he deserves it for a lot more reasons than that. I can't think of any negatives about the man. He's been through more than any coach in the league with the tragic family events and he came out a stronger man. He is a true role model.

Sollozzo
01-16-2008, 06:35 PM
I'll never forget what Dungy did for Indy. He was such a great ambassador to the city. After the Colts won it, he went all around to late night shows, signed books, etc. He really was a great ambassador for the city of Indianapolis. I'll always be grateful to him for that.

But I think it has become obvious that his heart isn't 100% here anymore. I don't want a coach who isn't all the way here. Say what you want about BB, but the guy is totally consumed with football, which is what they pay him for. And I think TD has always been like that to....but it doesnt sound like he is anymore.

Moses
01-16-2008, 07:19 PM
It would not surprise me at all to see Dungy retire this year, or the next, and move back to Tampa. I don't think he is done coaching though for good though even if he does retire this year. I bet you he will probably come out of retirement to coach TB/Miami after 4-5 years if there is ever a coaching vacancy down there..which there is bound to be. Either way, the man is a winner and a class act. A lot of coaches can't put those 2 hand in hand, but Dungy can.

SoupIsGood
01-16-2008, 09:13 PM
But I think it has become obvious that his heart isn't 100% here anymore.


How?

I haven't been paying attention since the season ended. Has he said anything?

Young
01-16-2008, 10:58 PM
Tony did a lot of great things for the Colts. More than just on the football field. He made a believer out of me for sure.

While I want him to stay I really don't want to lose Jim Caldwell either.

I worry that Caldwell gets a coaching job elsewhere and Dungy stays for just one more year and then retires and then who is the coach? I don't think Tony would let that happen though. I hope not at least.

Maybe Tony is burnt out on football. IDK. I think he defiantly can still coach though. The Colts weren't peaking at the right time this year and that's why we lost to San Diego. Blame that on a number of things though. Tony can still coach.

jeffg-body
01-16-2008, 11:12 PM
If Coach Dungy does retire now he has been a great ambassador for professional sports and good sportsmanship in general. If it does happen and Jim Caldwell takes over, that would be fine because Jim is very similar to Dungy and is well respected by the players.

No matter what coach Dungy does he will be remembered in Indianapolis for more than just coaching. He has done so much for the community and should have his name retired like players get their number retired with a banner in the new stadium. I hope he stays another year, but that is being a little selfish.

Sollozzo
01-16-2008, 11:22 PM
How?

I haven't been paying attention since the season ended. Has he said anything?

It's just my opinion. I hope I am wrong. But it seems to me that he really wants to spend time with his family based on what he has said. If his family is living in Tampa, how could his heart be fully here?

I know that Irsay has talked about lending him the plane whenever he wants. I don't want a Roger Clemens situation. It's no offense to Dungy, I just would just prefer a coach who didn't have half of his heart in Florida (but I perfectly well understand it).

I hope I'm wrong. Maybe the new stadium can help lure him back. After all, it is a house that he helped build. I would have trouble knowing that I contributed greatly to something so grand being built yet not actually be able to experience it.

Dungy has done so much for the community. He represented Indiana so well last year.

DisplacedKnick
01-17-2008, 12:02 AM
It would not surprise me at all to see Dungy retire this year, or the next, and move back to Tampa. I don't think he is done coaching though for good though even if he does retire this year. I bet you he will probably come out of retirement to coach TB/Miami after 4-5 years if there is ever a coaching vacancy down there..which there is bound to be. Either way, the man is a winner and a class act. A lot of coaches can't put those 2 hand in hand, but Dungy can.

I agree with this. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if after a few years when his kids get older if he took a HC job away from Florida.

I'm mixed on Dungy leaving myself. No doubt he's a very good coach in a lot of ways but I also think he's not as good at game coaching as at other aspects. He's a better practice coach - better at the teaching/instilling pride/promoting professionalism parts of coaching than managing a game. I don't think he's horrible at game management but there have been quite a few games lost that at least got an assist from questionable coaching - the SD game is just the latest example.

OTOH, there's a LOT to be said for having a quality team led by such a class act. The man really has come through for Indy in that way - and you even got a SB win because NE got so far ahead last year that he had to abandon every game plan except the one you're strongest at.

Bball
01-18-2008, 06:21 AM
I like Dungy but I'm more inclined to agree with DK.

I don't think Dungy is a very good playoff coach. I'm glad his way worked and got a SB for himself and Indy but I don't think that is what is going to be the norm and I think history shows that.

For all the Colts have done in the regular season, their playoff record isn't very impressive. You'd like to hope that last year showed Tony's system was coming together and everyone molding it into shape but then what did this year bring? Another early exit and questionable preparation... even a home loss.

Considering where the Colts are in the championship window, I think now would be an excellent time for Dungy to retire and the team to go a different direction at the top. Dungy goes out with a recent SB and a solid regular season. The recent SB win provided a buffer to criticisms about this seasons early exit... BUT IMHO early exits will be more the norm than SB contention under Dungy. As that championship window creeps ever closer to closing the whispers will start up again and Dungy won't get the chance to leave under such good terms and fond memories.

-Bball

BoomBaby31
01-18-2008, 03:37 PM
Thank You for the experience Dungy.

Personally, and I've expressed it before, It doesn't bother me Dungy stepped. I don't want Caldwell, prefer him to stay as an assistant. I remember him coaching back in NC and he was awful. It's like a Cam Cameron situation, guy makes a great assistant but head isn't really his thing. With all of the available coaches, is it really necessary to grant Caldwell?

Young
01-18-2008, 03:42 PM
With all of the available coaches, is it really necessary to grant Caldwell?

Yes.

This is a veteran team and it's been great that a lot of the coaching staff has been there for a while. Dungy is very well liked and respected so if he leaves you don't want to change things and you want to have someone you know that players will like and Caldwell is it. He is the safe choice for right now.

Moses
01-18-2008, 06:12 PM
Thank You for the experience Dungy.

Personally, and I've expressed it before, It doesn't bother me Dungy stepped. I don't want Caldwell, prefer him to stay as an assistant. I remember him coaching back in NC and he was awful. It's like a Cam Cameron situation, guy makes a great assistant but head isn't really his thing. With all of the available coaches, is it really necessary to grant Caldwell?
Well, whoever steps in behind Dungy will have a great roster to work with. Doesn't even matter who comes in after Dungy..they will succeed for a few years off of the roster talent alone. Don't believe me? Take a look at Norv Turner. SD will crash and burn under him in the next couple of years..just wait and watch. Talent alone is keeping that team as a playoff contender right now.

tdubb03
01-18-2008, 07:38 PM
I pretty much know nothing about Jim Caldwell other than he's the asst head coach/QBs coach, and he had a less than successful head coaching gig at Wake Forest.

Anyone able to help me out? Other previous jobs, play calling style, anything like that?

Bball
01-18-2008, 08:37 PM
I pretty much know nothing about Jim Caldwell other than he's the asst head coach/QBs coach, and he had a less than successful head coaching gig at Wake Forest.

Anyone able to help me out? Other previous jobs, play calling style, anything like that?

Reportedly, Peyton likes him. Is there anything else that would matter?

-Bball

BoomBaby31
01-19-2008, 01:25 AM
Well, whoever steps in behind Dungy will have a great roster to work with. Doesn't even matter who comes in after Dungy..they will succeed for a few years off of the roster talent alone. Don't believe me? Take a look at Norv Turner. SD will crash and burn under him in the next couple of years..just wait and watch. Talent alone is keeping that team as a playoff contender right now.

I know talent alone is going to carry Caldwell to the playoffs but getting to the superbowl (which this team is a superbowl team) is what I want. SD is good and young, they will carry Turner for a long time. They had major lockerroom problems when they lost their first two games. LT and Rivers aren't these "classy" guys ESPN cracks them up to be. Even if you rewatch the Colts vs. Chargers game you can clearly see LT talking to Rivers asking why Norv isn't putting him and jumping around like a baby. They have character issues on that team, anyway back to the Colts.

You have to be at least decent as a coach though, even with talent. I've never thought Dungy was the best coach in the world. He was blessed with one of the best QB's in history and a very good roster. Everyone wants to go with the "safe" choice but we need to beat New England, coaches are the most important part of the team behind QB and when you have Jim Mora, Marty, Cowher sitting there, those are some big time names to fill your vacancy. We don't have time to play "safe" Peyton is 32 and look at historically what happens to teams after a big time QB leaves. Miami, 49ers, Dallas etc... This is the glory times of our franchise and we need to stock our team the best we can from A to Z.

I have hope because rumor has it, Jim Mora interviewed with the colts yesterday.

esabyrn333
01-19-2008, 01:41 AM
Jim Mora or Jim Mora Jr. ????????????/

Moses
01-19-2008, 03:41 AM
I know talent alone is going to carry Caldwell to the playoffs but getting to the superbowl (which this team is a superbowl team) is what I want. SD is good and young, they will carry Turner for a long time. They had major lockerroom problems when they lost their first two games. LT and Rivers aren't these "classy" guys ESPN cracks them up to be. Even if you rewatch the Colts vs. Chargers game you can clearly see LT talking to Rivers asking why Norv isn't putting him and jumping around like a baby. They have character issues on that team, anyway back to the Colts.

You have to be at least decent as a coach though, even with talent. I've never thought Dungy was the best coach in the world. He was blessed with one of the best QB's in history and a very good roster. Everyone wants to go with the "safe" choice but we need to beat New England, coaches are the most important part of the team behind QB and when you have Jim Mora, Marty, Cowher sitting there, those are some big time names to fill your vacancy. We don't have time to play "safe" Peyton is 32 and look at historically what happens to teams after a big time QB leaves. Miami, 49ers, Dallas etc... This is the glory times of our franchise and we need to stock our team the best we can from A to Z.

I have hope because rumor has it, Jim Mora interviewed with the colts yesterday.
Jima Mora Jr. is a pretty good coach. He did a lot with what was given to him in his Atlanta days. I think he'd be a pretty good choice for Indy's next HC assuming Dungy retires..but I still think it will be Caldwell taking over simply because he will keep the current system in place. I do agree with you about the Colts needing a great HC if they want to win the SB. I was just saying that whoever coaches the Colts will be off the hotseat for a few years because the Colts should easily make the playoffs each year just because they have Peyton, Wayne, and Addai.

Bball
01-19-2008, 03:55 AM
Someone might convince me otherwise, but based on what I know, I'd like to see Jim Mora Jr coaching the Colts.

-Bball

McClintic Sphere
01-19-2008, 12:54 PM
If he makes his decision this weekend its not looking too good. Current temperatures: Tampa 71 degrees. Indy, a balmy 8.

esabyrn333
01-19-2008, 01:01 PM
Mora Jr tells the Redskins no thanks

Bball
01-19-2008, 01:47 PM
Didn't Irsay tell reporters just a day or so ago that they want Tony back but if he decides not to come back then Caldwell is their man?

-Bball

grace
01-19-2008, 02:50 PM
Someone might convince me otherwise, but based on what I know, I'd like to see Jim Mora Jr coaching the Colts.

-Bball

I'd have no problem wiht it but he wants to stay in Washington to get the Seattle job.

Young
01-19-2008, 03:40 PM
Didn't Irsay tell reporters just a day or so ago that they want Tony back but if he decides not to come back then Caldwell is their man?

-Bball

I don't know that Irsay said that but Bill Polian did.

http://www.colts.com/sub.cfm?page=article7&news_id=3eac87b5-8524-402f-97f8-4e42c6ccadd3


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By John Oehser - Colts.com

When Dungy Leaves, Caldwell will be Colts Head Coach, Polian Says
INDIANAPOLIS – The hope throughout the Colts’ organization is that Tony Dungy will be the head coach next season, Club President Bill Polian said Friday.
But if he isn’t, the team knows the identity of its next head coach:

Jim Caldwell.

Caldwell, the Colts’ assistant head coach/quarterbacks the past three seasons and a Colts assistant since 2002, will be the franchise’s next head coach when Dungy decides to retire, Polian said Friday morning.

“It’s important if Tony’s going to leave to have the right guy,” Polian, who recently finished his 10th season as the Colts’ president, said at the Colts’ Practice Facility Friday. “That was clearly Jim, so in that sense, that’s the first and biggest step you take. That’s been done.”

Dungy, who has coached the Colts to six consecutive playoff appearances and five AFC South titles in six seasons as the Colts’ head coach, said this past Monday at his season-ending press conference that he will decide over the weekend whether or not to return next season.

He said he likely will inform Colts Owner and Chief Executive Officer Jim Irsay of his decision Monday.

If Dungy opts not to return, Polian said the succession process is already in place.

“He’s got to get together with the staff and set whatever priorities he wants to establish,” Polian said of Caldwell’s possible succession. “We’re pretty much, he and I, finished with the orientation process, you might say. He’ll be ready to go no matter what occurs.

“It will be a seamless succession if it occurs and we hope it doesn’t.”

Polian said the details of the succession process will be announced at a later date.

“We’re wrapping up the details on Jim’s succession and we’ll probably have an announcement on that early next week,” Polian said. “Depending on what Tony decides to do, we’re prepared to go down either path. We’ve put all of those details in place.”

Caldwell, who turned 53 Wednesday, joined the Colts’ staff upon Dungy’s hiring in January of 2002. He recently interviewed for vacant head coaching positions in Baltimore and Atlanta. He interviewed with Arizona last season.

“Everybody who has interviewed him in the head coaching-search process that he has been involved with in the last two years . . . virtually everyone has gotten back to us and said, ‘Boy this guy’s really outstanding,” Polian said. “That didn’t come as a surprise to us. We see it every day in this building.”

Caldwell coached under Dungy in Tampa Bay in 2000. Before then, he was head coach at Wake Forest from 1993-2000. He coached the Demon Deacons to an Aloha Bowl appearance in 1999.

“He’s extremely intelligent,” Polian said of Caldwell. “He has extremely high character. He’s a tireless and an extremely hard worker. He’s very detail-oriented. He’s very firm, very demanding, very supportive of the players he has coached. He has great background.”

Caldwell, a four-year starter at defensive back at the University of Iowa from 1973-1976, coached at Iowa for one season,

in 1977, then had stints at Southern Illinois (1978-80), Northwestern (1981), Colorado (1982-1984), Louisville (1985) and Penn State (1986-1992).

“He has spent significant time with Coach (Joe) Paterno at Penn State,” Polian said. “He turned around a program at Wake Forest. I was (the General Manager) at Carolina when he was there. I saw him do it up close and personal.

“Obviously, he has all the qualities you would want in a head coach.”

The Colts this past Sunday lost to the San Diego Chargers, 28-24, in an AFC Divisional Playoff game. Since then, Polian said a significant amount of time has been spent ensuring a smooth succession process in the event Dungy opts to retire.

Polian said the coming weeks will be spent dealing with new signings and the approach of the new league year, which begins March 1. The team already has begun draft preparation, and Polian and other members of the staff will spend part of next week at the Senior Bowl in Mobile, Ala.

“Everything’s on schedule,” Polian said. “What’s left to be determined at this point in time is who is the head coach and that will be determined Monday, I’m sure. After that’s in place, it’s full-speed ahead. Last week was really spent putting all of those details in place, making sure the succession will go smoothly, and making sure the other issues were dealt with. And now we’re ready to go.”

Caldwell, then in his first season as assistant head coach, was the interim head coach when the Colts played the Seattle Seahawks in December of 2005. Dungy missed that game following the death of his oldest son, James.

“He had on the job training, unfortunately, tragically, at the time Tony’s tragedy and Lauren’s occurred,” Polian said. “He stepped in under the absolute worst of circumstances and did a remarkable job.”

Having Caldwell as the successor ensures as smooth a transition as possible should Dungy retire, Polian said, and he said because Caldwell’s responsibilities will increase whether or not Dungy stays, the team likely will hire a quarterbacks coach in either case.

Polian also said he expects little changes in the rest of the staff.

“Everybody has told me they want to be back,” Polian said.

The prospect of having continuity in a franchise that has made eight playoff appearances in nine seasons – and that won the Super Bowl following the 2006 season – was critical in naming Caldwell the successor, Polian said.

“The issue of going forward with the same philosophy, with the same systems, with virtually the same coaching staff is very important, because it provides continuity,” Polian said. “Continuity provides a chance to build on what you’ve already had. You don’t change course. Nor do you change style or culture, so to speak. That will remain the same, obviously.

“When Jim takes over – not if, when – his emphasis will be different than Tony’s, just because they are different human beings, but the larger scheme of things will be essentially unchanged. The underlying philosophy will be essentially unchanged. In our view, it is a seamless transition.”

Bball
01-19-2008, 03:57 PM
That was a good sales job by Polian and it sure sounds like they are leaning toward Dungy's retirement come Monday. I wonder if there's any significance to Dungy making the announcement on MLK day or just coincidence?

If ministering is part of Dungy's plans, that very well could be more than coincidence.

-Bball