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Cornrows
01-09-2008, 06:43 PM
Larry was interviewed on 1070 this afternoon.

Here's a link to the audio of the interview.

http://media.1070thefan.com/podcasts/080109_bird.mp3

andreialta
01-09-2008, 06:49 PM
^^

Tnx again Cornrows!!

andreialta
01-09-2008, 07:00 PM
I like this job overall but the last few days not so much.. - Larry bird to sum it up. hehe

odeez
01-09-2008, 07:11 PM
Hey thx for the link! Good interview with Larry Legend.

Young
01-09-2008, 07:11 PM
Wow, love what Bird is saying. Agree with pretty much everything he said.

He is looking to make moves before the deadline. I think that is clear. He said they talk to people every day. He didn't say they are content with who they have. He says he likes the style that Jim has brought but they need to bring in guys who fit that style.

Feels that this team needs to defend and that they have several players that are inconsistant which has been the weaknesses of the team.

I really am amazed how upfront Bird was about making moves. He always says if they can make a move to get better they will do it but usually he might say they are pretty happy with what they have. He said nothing like that here.

I know that deals are hard to make. We have made ALOT of moves with this team over the past few years. But I really thought that we would keep this team together at least this season but I think that if Bird finds a deal he will pull the trigger before the deadline.

rexnom
01-09-2008, 07:19 PM
People need to listen to this. Bird is honest, at the very least. I loved when he basically admitted that Artest was better than JO in 04-05.

Hicks
01-09-2008, 08:06 PM
That was a nice interview. Larry said the most important things for a team in his mind are:

1) A center who can score, hold his own, and block shots
2) A power forward who can play the physical game who can guard people.
3) A point guard who can distribute the ball and hit shots.

He said the wing players are in abundance and are easier to find.

I wish I could know what those trades were that Larry mentioned that, as far as he was concerned, were close to happening where at the last minute the team we were dealing with makes a similar move with another franchise instead.

Tom White
01-09-2008, 09:09 PM
I didn't listen to the link provided in this thread, but I heard most of the interview live on 1070.

The thing that struck me most was how LB did a lot of hemmimg and hawing when asked about O'Neal. The question was something like "where are you with JO" or "how happy are you with JO" or something like that. You could tell that he was being very careful about how he answered the question.

BlueNGold
01-09-2008, 09:40 PM
Larry Legend: "Probably our best player, Ronny Artest...he's really what Jermaine needs beside him...a tough guy"

Larry Legend: "I called Kevin McCale several times about Kevin Garnett..."

Larry Legend: "We need some Fosters. If we had a couple more of them, we'd be alright..."

IMO, Larry thinks JO=Soft

No kidding Larry.

pacerfreak
01-10-2008, 12:14 PM
Thank you. I enjoyed that very much. It proves that they are seeing the same issues we are seeing (or reading about).

Peck
01-10-2008, 01:00 PM
That was a nice interview. Larry said the most important things for a team in his mind are:

1) A center who can score, hold his own, and block shots
2) A power forward who can play the physical game who can guard people.
3) A point guard who can distribute the ball and hit shots.

He said the wing players are in abundance and are easier to find.

I wish I could know what those trades were that Larry mentioned that, as far as he was concerned, were close to happening where at the last minute the team we were dealing with makes a similar move with another franchise instead.

Haven't listened to the interview yet but just reading this it sounds like what Larry wants is

1. Rik Smits
2. Dale Davis
3. Mark Jackson

JayRedd
01-10-2008, 01:02 PM
Larry Legend: "We need some Fosters. If we had a couple more of them, we'd be alright..."

I like the dude's response: "I might drink a couple Foster's."

And just from listening to Larry's tone on Jermaine, dude will be packing in February.

Other good stuff

On the 1998 squad: "We didn't have the footspeed to guard anyone...But we did it."

On JO's trade value being low right now: "There's no question about that."

On a campaign to get Slick in the HOF: "I'll help you with it. The Pacers wouldn't even be here if it wasn't for Slick."

On the question of "are you enjoying yourself?": "Overall I like it cause I'm learning so much. [But] today, no. A few days, no.

The losing hurts so much. I know what this state wants and what it stands for. I grew up here and I always loved the Pacers. I watched the telethon that Slick and Nancy had to save this franchise. It means a lot. It's tough, there's no question about it. It's one of the toughest things I ever did. The brawl probably took more out of me professionalwise [sic] than anything that's ever happened to me because I knew we were right there and we had the chance to do something special for the state. But it didn't happen so you move forward.

But it is tough. Do I have fun everyday. Absolutely not."

Putnam
01-10-2008, 01:08 PM
Haven't listened to the interview yet but just reading this it sounds like what Larry wants is

1. Rik Smits
2. Dale Davis
3. Mark Jackson


or...

1. Robert Parish
2. Kevin McHale
3. Dennis Johnson

Major Cold
01-10-2008, 01:28 PM
I thought that McHale sucked on the D and Parrish lacked scoring.

But if you mix and match qualities then there you go.

JayRedd
01-10-2008, 01:39 PM
I thought that McHale sucked on the D and Parrish lacked scoring.

But if you mix and match qualities then there you go.

Not at all.

McHale was 6-time All Defense. And Parrish could certainly work the block, although his best offensive attribute was probably his uncanny ability to finish.

MyFavMartin
01-10-2008, 01:55 PM
I didn't listen to the link provided in this thread, but I heard most of the interview live on 1070.

The thing that struck me most was how LB did a lot of hemmimg and hawing when asked about O'Neal. The question was something like "where are you with JO" or "how happy are you with JO" or something like that. You could tell that he was being very careful about how he answered the question.

Doesn't want to tank what little trade value JO has right now. BUT... JO isn't at full strength right now, so I think his value will improve as his health does.

Hicks
01-10-2008, 04:07 PM
Haven't listened to the interview yet but just reading this it sounds like what Larry wants is

1. Rik Smits
2. Dale Davis
3. Mark Jackson

Pretty much, yeah. Though I don't remember Rik blocking a lot of shots (though I remember him doing it somewhat).

Of course with those guys I think you need very good scoring wings to balance it and make it work (Reggie/Jalen, for example).

Hicks
01-10-2008, 04:08 PM
or...

1. Robert Parish
2. Kevin McHale
3. Dennis Johnson

Kevin McHale was known as a physical defender?

Unclebuck
01-10-2008, 04:11 PM
Mchale was an excellent defender. He was very, very physical by todays standards, but back then, not really. He had the longest arms ever and was extremely smart.

rexnom
01-10-2008, 04:45 PM
Couldn't Bird also mean:

1. JO
2. Jeff
3. Tinsley

And so he thought we were set going into the season. Except he had no idea that JO had dropped off so much.

Oneal07
01-10-2008, 04:47 PM
nice interview. . .I hope we get some more Fosters on this team

MyFavMartin
01-10-2008, 04:52 PM
nice interview. . .I hope we get some more Fosters on this team

How about some Adams?

Not Hassan, who is a FA, but Sammie. ;)

QuickRelease
01-10-2008, 05:09 PM
Great interview by Lawrence Joseph Bird! You know, JO already gets pissy when it comes to Larry Bird. How do you think he'll feel about LB agreeing that RonnieArt was the better player?

McKeyFan
01-10-2008, 05:10 PM
Couldn't Bird also mean:

1. JO
2. Jeff
3. Tinsley

And so he thought we were set going into the season. Except he had no idea that JO had dropped off so much.

JT can't shoot, so, no.

Apparently Bird just can't find a decent trade for the guys he wants to trade.

FlavaDave
01-10-2008, 05:34 PM
Interesting that he specifically mentioned PG, PF, and C as positions to improve. He didn't say we needed depth, he said we need the players.

There's no ifs, ands, or buts about it. He wants to replace Tinsley and O'Neal.

BlueNGold
01-10-2008, 06:27 PM
Interesting that he specifically mentioned PG, PF, and C as positions to improve. He didn't say we needed depth, he said we need the players.

There's no ifs, ands, or buts about it. He wants to replace Tinsley and O'Neal.

Yes, those comments were directed at JO and Tins, particularly because we have a very serious hole at SG as well.

Hmmm, on second thought..maybe he thinks our SF's can play that position. :-o

One of the two, folks.

tdubb03
01-10-2008, 06:52 PM
I must say, the honesty we've heard from Larry Legend and JOB is pretty refreshing. Lets us all know they aren't living in fantasy land thinking this is a championship team.

LoneGranger33
01-10-2008, 08:08 PM
Interesting that he specifically mentioned PG, PF, and C as positions to improve. He didn't say we needed depth, he said we need the players.

There's no ifs, ands, or buts about it. He wants to replace Tinsley and O'Neal.

Or wants to get solid back-ups...which we don't have.

jeffg-body
01-10-2008, 10:33 PM
Talking up Ronnie Artest, is this the buffer for a return of Artest to Indiana?

FlavaDave
01-10-2008, 10:59 PM
Or wants to get solid back-ups...which we don't have.


I don't think so, based on him comments. He said we need A point guard who can distribute and shoot, and A center who can rebound and block shots. And those are the basic skills of the position. It's not like he said we need a PF who can pass well and hit the three.

If he was looking for a backup, he would say that we need another big man, or more centers, or some depth at the point guard position. But the context of his statements, to me, indicated that he was looking for his starters, not bench players.

This is all conjecture and interpretation on my part, he didn't literally say this.

LoneGranger33
01-10-2008, 11:09 PM
I don't think so, based on him comments. He said we need A point guard who can distribute and shoot, and A center who can rebound and block shots. And those are the basic skills of the position. It's not like he said we need a PF who can pass well and hit the three.

If he was looking for a backup, he would say that we need another big man, or more centers, or some depth at the point guard position. But the context of his statements, to me, indicated that he was looking for his starters, not bench players.

This is all conjecture and interpretation on my part, he didn't literally say this.

OK. I couldn't get the link to work so I'm on board with this.

edc
01-11-2008, 03:52 AM
Talking up Ronnie Artest, is this the buffer for a return of Artest to Indiana?

Im ok with that.....

I still miss Ron-Ron's game

"We dont have a guy like Ronnie" -Larry Bird

McKeyFan
01-11-2008, 12:18 PM
He also said Artest was our best player, not JO.

QuickRelease
01-11-2008, 12:28 PM
Im ok with that.....

I still miss Ron-Ron's game

"We dont have a guy like Ronnie" -Larry Bird

You know, as crazy as it sounds, I hated to see Ron go. I think JOB is enough of a disciplinarian to handle Ronnie, and I think he would thrive in this system. The fanbase wouldn't go for it, but I'd love to see Ronnie in a Pacers uni again. When Jermaine issued the "him, or me" ultimatum, it sounds to me like Larry made the pr move above the basketball move, as evidenced by his comments in the interview.

Naptown_Seth
01-11-2008, 02:32 PM
He said the wing players are in abundance and are easier to find.Says the guy who personally scouted and apparently drafted another wing after they'd just drafted Danny.

I love Shawne's game, but I didn't make the above statement or draft this roster.

Sometimes Bird gives me this impression that he's cleaning up the mess that some other guy left. Even on Donnie's work I assume Larry has been involved. He was the Euro guy that scouted Saras and Baston (though in his defense those both look close to what he thinks are important pieces).


On JO's trade value being low right now: "There's no question about that."
ie, "would someone please return my calls, I wasn't pranking you, I'm totally serious, why is that funny to you?"

Naptown_Seth
01-11-2008, 02:39 PM
Haven't listened to the interview yet but just reading this it sounds like what Larry wants is

1. Rik Smits
2. Dale Davis
3. Mark Jackson
:) Who doesn't.
Not hard to figure why. Heck, with Foster here I'd take Smits and Jax. Actually I'd be fine even with just Jax.

But he's a half-court PG that creates open shots for players and finds them when they get there. I hope people would be willing to return to "slog ball" where Jax backs down the PG for 5 seconds before passing to Dun for the open 3.

Personally I'd love it, but I was never living in this dream world where you instantly have great offense just by shooting jumpers early in the shot clock. I loved the detailed offensive sets Rick designed for the 98-2K teams. They punished teams and anticipated their adjustments to your first set with a counter move for quarter 3 or 4. And Jax not only could make good on it, he lived for it.

If only JO could make the mid-jumper like Rik. That's what really hurts. Or having a total defensive force like Dale next to JO rather than the partial force that Jeff is (let's face it, he's not a shot blocker or an intimidator).

imawhat
01-12-2008, 04:15 PM
That was a nice interview. Larry said the most important things for a team in his mind are:

1) A center who can score, hold his own, and block shots
2) A power forward who can play the physical game who can guard people.
3) A point guard who can distribute the ball and hit shots.

He said the wing players are in abundance and are easier to find.

The irony of this statement blows my mind. Who have we drafted since Larry returned? James Jones, Danny Granger, Shawne Williams....etc.

I'm not saying these guys aren't great players, or that they weren't even the best available at the time we drafted them, but we had far bigger needs for two of those picks. We had Artest, Jones, AND Jackson when we drafted Granger.

I've always thought Bird's weakness was the same as a lot of GMs. When it comes to getting players, they get players that resemble themselves in a few ways. Bird was a small forward.

Look at Isiah with the Knicks. How many small, shoot first guards can they have? At one time, Marbury, Francis, Robinson, Crawford.

FlavaDave
01-12-2008, 07:34 PM
The irony of this statement blows my mind. Who have we drafted since Larry returned? James Jones, Danny Granger, Shawne Williams....etc.

I'm not saying these guys aren't great players, or that they weren't even the best available at the time we drafted them, but we had far bigger needs for two of those picks. We had Artest, Jones, AND Jackson when we drafted Granger.

I've always thought Bird's weakness was the same as a lot of GMs. When it comes to getting players, they get players that resemble themselves in a few ways. Bird was a small forward.

Look at Isiah with the Knicks. How many small, shoot first guards can they have? At one time, Marbury, Francis, Robinson, Crawford.


Come on, we HAD to take Granger at #17. It was a no brainer.

Jose Slaughter
01-12-2008, 08:41 PM
Ya know I've heard all this before.

All it is is the same ole song & dance.

Larry, shut up & just do it!

aceace
01-12-2008, 09:27 PM
JO is going to be difficult to trade this year making what he does. We would probably have to give up Williams or Granger with him in order to get Gasol/Stoudamire from Grizzlies. Stoudamire has basically been benched as Conley is the future there. Gasol would fit nicely here imho.