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Artestaholic
05-31-2004, 01:39 PM
Why doesn't Rick Carlisle start Jonathan Bender in Austins place? It's obvious Bender can do everything Croshere can do and then some, plus he's bigger and is a better defender.

Kstat
05-31-2004, 01:40 PM
Why doesn't Rick Carlisle start Jonathan Bender in Austins place? It's obvious Bender can do everything Croshere can do and then some, plus he's bigger and is a better defender.

Bender was AWFUL last game, simply AWFUL. I'm not sure where his confidence is right now.

TheSauceMaster
05-31-2004, 01:41 PM
well when your making a critical run , you cause 2 turnovers in that run ...you garuntee your self pine time

Snickers
05-31-2004, 01:41 PM
Bendy has disappointed me in these playoffs. I was looking for him to be a contributor.

Freddie, though, should start.

Artestaholic
05-31-2004, 01:44 PM
Sure Bender sucked last night, but Croshers sucked more and for a longer period of time. Atleast Jonathan shows flashes of brilliance, Croshere just downright sucks period.

Kstat
05-31-2004, 01:45 PM
Sure Bender sucked last night, but Croshers sucked more and for a longer period of time. Atleast Jonathan shows flashes of brilliance, Croshere just downright sucks period.

Bender showed flashes of passing the ball to Rip Hamilton in a tie game midway through the 2nd quarter. Rip got an "and 1" and the Pacers never tied again.

I thought that was the big momentum change in the game.

efx
05-31-2004, 01:49 PM
Bender will never amount to anything special. Yep
Jonathan, we all saw it this year......

kybjones
05-31-2004, 05:06 PM
and is a better defender.

Hmmmmmmmm.... not sure which career you've been watching. Although he does an admirable job on helpside defense (hence some blocked shots), Bender is probably the worst 1 on 1 defender the Pacers have. The guy is simply brutal laterally on the wing and gives up too much ground on the blocks.

Croshere's definitely not a good defender as well, but I'd rather stick AC on someone 1 on 1 in crunch time than JB.

Shade
05-31-2004, 05:08 PM
I think we should go with a line-up of:

C - JO
PF - Bender
SF - Artest
SG - Freddie
PG - Tinsley

And bust out a zone. :eek:

ABADays
05-31-2004, 05:52 PM
Bender 2 minutes - WOOOOOOOOOSH no more ties . . . WOOOOOOOOSH *** to the bench.

Tom White
05-31-2004, 06:35 PM
Sure Bender sucked last night, but Croshers sucked more and for a longer period of time.

So we are down to playing one guy over another because he sucks less?

That is sad.

Seems to me that the Pacers used to have a real center who didn't suck. Now, what was his name?

Oh, I remember now. Jeff Foster!

Millerartest
05-31-2004, 06:47 PM
The most disappointing thing to me is that the Pacers have stopped making an effort with Bender, especially when the offense has been downright pitiful and he has provided quite a few sparks this postseason.

Shade
05-31-2004, 06:56 PM
Sure Bender sucked last night, but Croshers sucked more and for a longer period of time.

So we are down to playing one guy over another because he sucks less?

That is sad.

Seems to me that the Pacers used to have a real center who didn't suck. Now, what was his name?

Oh, I remember now. Jeff Foster!

I thought you were going to speak the name of he whose name is not to be spoken. :o :laugh:

PistonsDynasty
05-31-2004, 08:58 PM
Just to let everyone know. This Artestaholic guy is a Kong Troll. This guy has been coming to the Piston board on RealGM for months calling Ben Wallace a white-back gorilla and an ape. He come to the board and says Pistons suck blah blah blah. The guy has been banned no less than 25 times.

The other day his name was Pacers in 6 just ragging on and on about the city of Detroit. Now his name is Pacers in 7.

I was shocked when I saw this thread from Artestaholic!! This is the guy that claimede Bender is BETTER than Rasheed WALLACE He said this plenty of times. ""the only reason nobody knows about him is because he was hurt[/b] :unimpressed:

Artestaholic GIVE IT UP. You are giving all Pacer fans a bad rep. Talk b-ball not smack.